Fake Oil Filter Caused Engine Damage in This Toyota! BE CAREFUL!
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- This beautiful 2008 Toyota Highlander is another victim of a fake oil filter. The 3.5L V6 in this car developed a horrible ticking sound which was traced to an oil filter that came apart and caused damage to the variable valve timing gear!
Folks be careful with your parts purchases! Counterfeit parts are everywhere and you need to really be careful!
The ticking sound on this engine developed because of lack of oil from this oil filter which for lack of a better word just crumpled apart!
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People around Chicago area are very lucky to have the opportunity to have you as their technician. I think your new business is going to do quite well.
I'm in Canada and I wish I could go to his shop for everything my Lexus needs :(
@@elusivellama haha, me too. Nova Scotia 👍
@@blackwatch7151 Me too Australia.
Difficult from New Zealand. Online reviews reveal many well known brand filters are actually not very well made, in Asia. :-S
@@elusivellama I live 4 hours away from his shop and am considering the drive just to have service performed by CCN. It would be worth the drive!
I agree sir. eBay and Amazon has a ton of Chinese made counterfeit parts pretending to be OEM.
eBay and Amazon, full of counterfeit stuff and fake reviews. Never buying anything from there again.
Yep, and they unashamedly aid and abet such criminality. I wonder if they'd do anything about it if one was t report a vendor for selling such garbage.
Here's some advice. If the price is way cheaper than dealer price, then most likely it is counterfeit.
The Chinese are the masters of deception and fraud. You need to be a lot smarter than this. Don't enable these scumbags. Don't buy their products.
If I buy on EBay, I make sure the seller is an actual Toyota dealership that is an actual brick and mortar dealership in the US. The real OEM Toyota filter can not be compressed when laid on it’s side.
@@drticzon agree. Yeah I bought from conicelli Toyota which was advertising on eBay. If it’s some seller that’s not a dealer, you could be rolling the dice.
I just ordered a filter for !st oil change on my Tacoma , I'll have to look close at it before I install it
I love that Walmart sells actual Toyota filters. Makes it so much easier for diy guys.
Yep I just found that out and grabbed me one. Unfortunately after watching this video the filter has a clear plastic ring around the pleats not metal like the video shows. Not sure how worried I should be..?
Lexus Master Tech here…I’ve seen similar on an RX 350 with the 2GR-FKS. Had VVT codes on both banks which is SUPER rare. Noticed an aftermarket metal oil filter cap (as opposed to OE plastic). Removed and there was no metal bracket inside the oil filter housing. The engine was sucking oil so hard it was collapsing the filter/ insufficient oil pressure to the VVT valves. Put on a factory filter cap and filter and fixed it. Scary!
AMD, Ticking noise? Using counterfeit or cheap parts on your Toyota is a ticking time bomb😉
Great video! Thanks for the info. I have a 2017 Toyota RAV4, since new I have used synthetic oil. I have changed the oil every 5,000 miles. Because I used synthetic oil, I decided to use a better oil filter than just any oil filter. When I did my on line research, I found that if I bought at least 6 filters at once, I could purchase 6@$30 including shipping from an out of state Toyota dealer. The car just reached 70,000 miles with no problems (changed Tran oil at 65,000 miles) and all is well. AMD I follow your recommendations to the letter. Nowadays my grandson does my oil changes in my garage, I supply everything (I can still do that, I’m 76 years old) and all the other car stuff. This summer we changed the front brake pads. This year I’m starting a new oil change routine because we don’t drive as much as before. We are changing oil 2 times a year, October 15 and April 15, more or less, once before the winter and once after the winter (I live in a Chicago NW suburb)…….Thanks for your guidance, God bless you!!! Jim
@Jim Pie - so cool your grandson is doing your oil changes and that you’re still involved. As a 68 yr old I can tell you 76 is not old at all!! Keep on truckin,’ Grandpa!!
@@jrh11254 I have 4 grandkids, only the oldest has adopted my love of Cars and we do a lot together and he has learned well. He has a 96’ Civic race car, with a Acura engine, turbo, etc. He has reworked the engine himself. I have an 84’ Mustang Convertible 5.0L, 5 speed, that Is stock, which I bought new. He’d love to rework this 5.0 L, but not for me. Thanks…Jim
@@jimpie231 - I love hearing stories like yours. My daughter just gave birth to our first grandchild. Can’t wait to see what his interests may be! His parents (and other grandparents) are seriously pushing golf but my preferences are music and/or visual-art. We’ll see.
@@jrh11254 I have 3 girls, I let them choose their own way in life (schools, etc.). The oldest went to college and has a great job and is well situated in her job. The middle daughter went to beauty school, but found a different path and she has the best job of all. The third went into art, which she loves, but took art history at the Chicago Art Institute and teaches art in school, she has a PHD in Education, loves the kids and what she does. Hope that helps….Jim
@@jimpie231 - thank you for the info; not sure it “helps” but I find it interesting. I don’t advocate pushing any child in any direction - other than perhaps acquiring skills like inquisitiveness, diligence, hard-work, etc., but those traits can be applied to any discipline. All I can do, as a grandfather - who sees, holds, and interacts with his grandson 4-5 days a week, is to present myself as an individual with my own personal interests. Those interests may not intersect with those of his two parents whose all-consuming interests are fantasy-football, “reality” tv, and golf…but who am I to intercede? Obviously my interests were not passed on to my daughter. Children find their own way.
That is why I only use OEM parts from dealer as
DIY’er. Give me peace of mind.
Resubbed after realizing that you're not necessarily trying to sell everyone on newer tech just because it's new. You really help people know what to watch out for. ❤️
don´t reply is a scammer and fake channel
If he sells new Tech and why not, he just won't sell it for the sake of selling. He reviews it thoroughly and decide that it's worth to buy or not. Anyway 1 or 2 subscriber doesn't mean a thing because 10 will just hit that subs button.
Why did you originally unsub?
I'm a MB master tech for over 15yrs and have seen this so many times. Sad but people think that buying from the dealer is just a rip off. Even with lower grade fuels people come in with check engine lights and stumbling engines all because of the fuel. All to common. Love your videos keep up the pro work.
I have come across new owners MB,BMW,AUDI or other brands that need 91 or higher. they come in with the check engine light on. no power, in limp home mode, reduce engine power, will only idle. ask them what grade they pump in to the car, most of the time it's 87.
I buy Toyota oil filters and other parts directly from a local dealership. As in, I walk in, go to the parts counter, and buy what I need. I find that what the dealership charges is completely reasonable. I agree, people have a misconception that the dealerships overcharge for parts. They make this assumption, without actually walking into the dealership and asking about the cost. Just because you had a bad experience with a salesman doesn't mean that the parts counter will rip you off as well.
It happened to me! All kind of weird issues that looks from injectors problems to timming issues, it was bad quality fuel, unbelievable, now I pick carefully what stations to buy from
@@hamsterama there's a few times the dealer was cheaper too.
@@crazeguy26 Very true! Oh, and when you buy from the dealer, you don't have to pay shipping costs! I also want to add that I buy 0w-16 oil for my 2020 Corolla at the dealership. They sell it for less than what the chain autoparts stores charge.
The destroyed oil filter that came out of the car, was very clean, it had not been in service long. Its a good thing you caught that problem early!
Wow... crazy! The 04152-YZZA1 filter element for my 2022 Highlander is only $5.41 at my local Toyota dealership. It's not worth the small savings you might get with an after market filter. Why take the risk? Keep it Toyota. Thanks for sharing, Ahmed!
I always change my oil myself. I was this close to buying filters from Amazon just now. Looked legit and had more pleats than oem. Thank you AMD or else I would have messed my engine up. Dealership, here I come.
You can buy from Amazon IF you're sure the filter is coming from a Toyota dealer.
A wix xp or a Amsoil filter is what I always use in my camry. It's better quality than OEM and the amsoil filters more efficiently. I always use amsoil signature series oil every 5k miles too.
@@dylanneal6363 changing amsoil signature every 5k seems wasteful when they say it will do 25k. The filter im sure is rated at a shorter interval.
@@connor3288 I drive alot of short distances and I'm not the easiest on my car. I have the money to spare. So it doesn't hurt anything. I go to 7k miles every now and then if it's alot of highway driving at low rpm. But im at 74k miles now and no problems. I also changed the spark plugs the other day as preventative maintenance. The old original ones still looked fine though. My uncle has a 2015 hybrid with 270k miles on it and he changes his oil with whatever name brand that's on sale every 6k miles. I plan on making my car last me along time. Too much oil changes can never hurt anything. Just your wallet.
They are so good at counterfeiting it’s almost impossible to tell. It’s everything even tools
The terrible irony is that there is more money in counterfeiting high end items than in counterfeiting workaday items.
@@flagmichael it’s making me wonder about everything I buy even tools . It sucks but a knock off
I work at Toyota. Was amazed when our OEM fluids and filters were cheaper than bargain ones from aftermarket stores. Sometimes the same for my Volkswagen too.
Doing the pcv valve on my scion tc (have some blow by in the crank case and I completely resealed the motor). The pcv valve on Amazon is $15+, $11 at the dealership lol
eric the car guy mentioned ppl selling fake timing belt kits sold on ebay and Amazon.. yall be careful guys and gals
that sounds scary
Man I remember our first new car was a 2007 avalon with the 2GR. One of the best cars we ever owned, it had a ticking "defect" from the factory, you could literally hear it through the cabin, but only when you were accelerating. On idle it went away. Dealer when selling it told us that it had this issue, but said it wasn't something that would brake anything and we drove it for close to 100k miles before selling it and never had a problem.
Only drove a Toyota to 100K mi and then selling?
They are very loud engines
@Daniel G you only drove a Toyota 100K miles before selling? That’s not much
Never buy anything claiming to be OEM on Amazon
You are being so helpful to me. I love what l m learning from your channel. My Toyota vehicle that I m in charge of is an 2005 Sienna AWD, 185,000 miles. Thank you!
You are a great teacher and instructor! I am not even a Toyota guy, but I have learned a lot from your channel. Many of the lessons you teach are common to all makes and models.
Finding good parts in dealership is not hard job like finding good dealership to repair cars. Thank you AMD.
This is the first I've ever heard of this channel but I can tell watching you, you're a great instructor
Do watch all his videos,very informative indeed!
He's also a straight shooter. If there are Toyota problems out there he has seen it, and he is very candid about it.
Very informative as always, thank you for the advice, I happened to own a 2015 highlander and now I have to go check the filter I bought to see if good or bad...Greatly appreciated your channel and may God bless you too and yours!
Thank you this important warning that can ruin your engine!! So weird that the filter came apart..
Good advice. That said, Denso makes Toyota's oil filters. I have no problems with using Denso filters rather than Toyota. I also use Idemitsu oil. A little bit pricier, but I think worth it.
Hi AMD. I remember ur older video on fake spin on Toyota oil filters. It should be against the law FOR THIS REASON. I get mine at the dealer thanks to u. 👍 So my car can live long & prosper.🖖🤓
IT IS against the law. Counterfeiting is not legal.
We need more truthful mechanics like you! People love to listen to the truth
do not reply, fake channel and is a scam
@@RotoRCol way ahead of you lol
I have found many of these canister filters are not being changed because the luber gubers either don't have the correct tool or they are scared of breaking the filter cap, found several filter elements reduced to charcoal never being changed.
BIG thumbs up on this one! Quite a few years ago (about the time I stopped buying cars other than Toyota) I had heard enough Bad Oil Filter horror stories to convince me to get my oil filters from the dealer. The kicker is that the filter for our gen 3 Prius (looks just like the filter shown in the video) is something like $8 at the dealer when I get the drain plug washer with it. I never imagined a horror story like this one, though.
The dealer closest to me sells Toyota oil filters for my Prius for $4.49 each. I can’t even find them for that price online.
The filters at our local Toyota dealer are actually cheaper than Walmart's Fram filters.
Having been burned with fake NGK spark plugs on Amazon, I now go by the rule where if the price looks to be good to be true, it’s probably fake. I have also been the victim where an eBay seller will show a picture of an OEM product and box, and the product I received was in non-OEM packaging and was clearly an aftermarket part.
Did the plugs misfire on you in a few hundred to thousand miles? I've seen some that actually "melt" or burn/char..
Pony up rhe few extra dollars for OEM
Denso parts/plugs...avoid ebay for all
critical parts! I buy at a local Toyota
and Honda dealer, have never had
a part that was defective or a bad
fit. Worth the $$.
@@LAactor Misfire within the first couple hundred miles
@@garyowen3662 Agree with you 110%. I learned the hard way. For critical parts, I buy from a local Toyota dealer. Their online pricing is very reasonable and is even less than Toyota’s msrp.
That is the best logic here. Usually you’ll find original parts at 10-20% off MSRP. But when it’s 50% it’s a red flag.
Even before buying my first Toyota (2GR-FE) I watched your videos on repeat and every video since to know as much as possible. I appreciate every video you make and tip you give!
Absolutely spot on. Good clean oil and adequate oil pressure from the best oil filter are the keys to longevity. Always interesting. Thanks.
OMG. I have been using toyota TRD oil filters on my 2013 highlander and was thinking about changing oil filters due to cost. Well not anymore. With 130k miles on my car, I am going to continue to invest in it and will continue to put TRD oils filters on it. I bought the car new and have been doing 5k oil changes. Still runs great. I do have a small ticking noise, but I see that it's normal. While watching the video, I did check those oil lines and mine are all metal. This channel to me is the most valuable and informative one on UA-cam. Again, great video. Love, Love, Love you channel.
I am always hesitant about buying aftermarket parts, especially for anything that makes the wheels turn. We do not know if it came from a reputable place or if it will fail prematurely. Yes, there is a place for aftermarket parts, like for example, plastic parts for the interior that does not affect the way it operates. I rather pay $50 for an OEM part that I know will last just as long as the original part, rather than an aftermarket part that costs $20 and not expecting a $2,000 repair due to the part failing. See it as a long term investment, rather than the short term. This video proves just that! Thank you for sharing that video!
A shame! Unnecessary expense!!
Very good info as usual. Unfortunately, that customer bought a oil filter for from $6000 to $7000 dollars. So sad to see people taking advantage of others. So much great info in this vlog . Thanks again.
@@islandhopper100 It only takes a small piece of that filter to block an oil jet
@@jamessmoth8683 either a small piece of paper media or the plastic-like adhesive.
Nope, the filter cost $7
@@TheSuperBoyProject The damage resulting from it was responsible for the rest of the cost.
@@TheSuperBoyProject Nope, cost them at least as much as this visit to the mechanic already.
The earlier 2GR-FEs are also notorious for the "piston slap" due to the short piston skirt which goes away when warmed up, the colder the weather when you start the engine, the worse it actually is. On a really cold day my car almost sounds like a diesel!
Regarding the VVTI line, you absolutely must do it, because a pinhole leak would be catastrophic. Toyota did the recalls several years ago and all they did was replace it with a slightly thicker rubber hose, all metal is the only way to go if you want to take the engine up to 300k miles!
what years are the earlier 2GR's? mine sounds like a diesel on a cold startup. any issues with it, or will it simply "break in" and last the typical 200-300k miles?
I buy the oil filter and crush washers for my 2022 Sienna Hybrid from the local Toyota dealer and it's cheaper than the aftermarket ones from the auto parts store. Just get them from the dealer.
I had the same experience with 2003 Corolla that is parked for years and have VVTI error code. I put in a good Castrol Syntec synthetic 0W-30 Longlife 506/507 oil, 1 week later, all the codes disappear, and were very quiet. Full synthetic oil cleans the engine safely too but still 5000 miles interval. This problem is caused by eBay, Aliexpress, and Amazon who sell Toyota fake filters from 3rd party and unknown suppliers.
rondhole hey I have the same engine as you have in my 2006 Matrix it’s not OW-30 it’s 5W-30 you’re supposed to use for those 1ZZ-FE. If you’re 2003 Corolla is still running good, you should get it back on the road. Don’t let it sit, that’s what kills cars. The old saying goes “use it or lose it”. That’s a golden Era or Corolla, & it shouldn’t go to waste if it still runs good not all worn out. How many miles are on it? My 2006 Matrix has 151,000 reliable miles on it & it’s in great shape. I change the oil every 3000 miles/once a year, using Castrol 5W-30 & K&N wrench-off oil filters. Works excellent, never had a problem with it. I do believe in not using cheap flimsy oil filters & instead, using premium quality filters, with good pleat material inside. But yeah, if you’ve still got that Corolla sitting, you should try to get it back on the road if it’s not all worn out. What if you have to spend $500-$1K to get it roadworthy again, you won’t ever find another Toyota for that price.
@@Blakecryderman7244 i like 0w-30 because they are just naturally made from better base oil. More PAO contents. The 5w-30 is very broad but 0w-30 is only possible with high quality base stock. The additives are also strong especially if they are certified for 20k miles interval from VW, Benz, BMW, or Dexos.
Counterfeit spark plugs are a huge problem in the industry. Worth looking into. They will destroy your engine fast
Mobil1 used to make cartridges with metal retaining parts on either end of the filter for Toyotas (retaining caps). That unraveling cannot happen with those flat round ends that came around and kept the filter together. They don't make them anymore. They were made in the USA. The new version of the filter from Mobil1 is from South Korea and the retaining ends are gone + there are way fewer pleats, which means fewer quare inches of filtering media.
We don't have great mechanics like you and Scotty where I live. Sad face.
You said that the air filter doesn't cause problems in the engine as well as the oil filter. I agree with you. But, the fuel consumption will be severally affected if the air filter is cheaper one. It's better no risk it and to use original parts. Good video 👍🏻 thanks
A question that I would like to see an expert answer (CCN would be great!) - does air filter restriction affect mixture in modern fuel injected engines the way it did in carbureted engines? I wouldn't think so.
@@flagmichael In a gasoline engine, when you increase throttle, it is the air-feed that increases. Car measures the amount of air going through (MAF), and calculates how much fuel to add. If the air filter is more restrictive, then simply less air would go through the air filter / throttle body / MAF sensor. Then less fuel will be shot, while maintaining AFR. If the air filter is less restrictive, then the opposite happens, whilst still maintaining AFR. (This is also why, when people add aftermarket turbo, they sometimes need to upgrade the fuel pump, fuel injectors, etc... to keep up with the amount of air.)
Bad for the engine? If the filter is extremely unrestrictive and lets through contaminants, then yes. OR, let's say the filtrate is not "even", and has "low spots" where contaminants gets through, same thing.
In diesel engine, the throttle controls how much fuel is dumped. Amount of air is calculated & added to maintain AFR. In this setup, if you have a bad air flow, then yes it's possible to put the AFR out-of-whack.
I fondly the remember the days of not worrying about my computer being hacked or my auto parts being counterfeit. I buy my Toyota oil filters online from a few different Toyota dealers including one locally. Those OEM filters are cheaper online at the dealer than aftermarket! Why wouldn't you buy OEM at that point? Thank you for the PSA showing the consequences of garbage parts.
FYI, folks. Really worried me so I did a bit of research this morning. 2017 Lexus ES350, Part No. 04152-YZZA1 $7.54 at Walmart, $4.25 at my local dealer. Genuine parts at a lower price. Kinda a no brainer!
I was going to say this exactly. Cheaper at my local Toyota dealer and the dealer gives a new oil bolt washer too unlike Walmart.
@@davidg5704 Many thanks to the Car Care Nut for bringing this to our attention! Otherwise, I would have never known. I did see another UA-camr that ran into some counterfeit Champion spark plugs. Wrong color tipped him off.
Very lucky to have a mechanic like him! Good job AMD.
I think there are two small screen filters in the oil lines that feed the VVTs. Debris or a clog in one of those filters could be the problem.
I would wonder what would clog these. I had mine apart a few months ago(because I heard the same thing) and the screen openings are huge. I would think the filter would catch said debris.
@@escottn yup. I checked mine when my car would randomly make the loud ticking and they were clear. I think the factory recommended 0w20 was the issue. I live in a area that gets extreme heat during summer. Switched to 5w30
AMD has a video on the vvti gears. it pretty goes into what you guys are talking about.
@@deft1abc1 I have an 05 Avalon that calls for 5w30. Tried several brands. Does not change the noise. Like he said in the video though these engines are notorious for making some noise. I do not believe it's the noise he spoke of in another video where he stated the first year or two had some issues.
The filters were checked. They’re clear. That’s why the covers were off. If you notice in the video showing the ticking sound there was oil dripping, that was with the tensioner cover off, sound is coming from bank 1 intake VVTI gear. The oil cooler line was replaced already and the common exhaust gear center coming off and hitting the front timing cover was not the case verified visually.
Some Toyota dealers such as Conicelli partznet sell online. 10 filters with the drain plug washer is only $40. And this is after about a 20% recent price increase. Recall reading about counterfeiting in a major magazine in 2005. Within a week after a new golf club comes out China would have a knock-off on the market so good that even the company reps could not tell the difference between the real and fake one until it was cut open. I'm sure they have improved their trickery since then.
I learn something with every one of your videos! Thanks for all you do!
So many counterfeit parts out there now on amazon and ebay and its a really big problem. I won't even buy spark plugs off either after getting several comebacks 30-40 thousand miles later with very odd random misfires and several small engines that randomly shut off after warming up. The other end of it is the package their shipped in is very often too inferior to protect the parts from the gorillas that handle packages. I only use denso/ngk/ntk/delphi or oem, people complain its expensive but I quickly remind them the original oem part lasted xxx,xxx miles before failure.
A lot of counterfeit iridium plugs don't even use iridium on the tips.
The fact that the element compressed and spread out made me wonder if this was some kind of universal fit filter used at a quick lube place. The customer has to know where the oil was last changed, did you find that out and where was it done?
That would make sense if it wasn't stamped "Toyota" between the pleats.
I buy my 1999 Camry oil filters by the case direct from the dealer. I use Pennzoil natural gas oil every 5K religiously. 164K on the clock and still running like a clock. All highway high speed miles. ALWAYS GO WITH OEM PARTS WHEN IT COMES TO TOYOTA!
164k on one of those is low miles I have seem them for sale with near 500k. Keep up the good maintenance and the car will take care of you.
Interesting problem about the oil filter. I think I've posted this before but I buy canister oil filters for our fleet of Corollas (well all 3) by the box from the local dealer. Luckily they all use the same filter and they are not much more expensive then aftermarket filters. I have no way to evaluate oil filter internals so decided to play it safe. Also on our newest Corolla with synthetic oil I'm changing oil/filter every 5k not 10k miles.
The only place that’s a trust worthy source for oem Toyota parts is amayama who source directly from Toyota Japan at better prices, I work for Lexus and I can trust them
This is the exact reason I always buy my filters at the dealership. Plus they're actually cheaper to buy there compared to Walmart or parts stores.
How much is yours at the dealer?
at walmart they are $7, how much are at the dealer?
Hard to believe cheaper than Walmart.
@@Walterrinho He's right, you can get a Toyota 04152-YZZA1 oil filter for $3.73 by ordering at the Toyota parts store on a dealer website.
@@dyingculture1 my local dealer doesn't have that price, which k e are you referring to?
Thank you for this video. Since finding your channel more than a year ago I change the oil on our RAV 4 Hybrid at 5k intervals and just a couple of weeks ago changed the transmission and rear transaxle fluids with Toyota ATF-WS at 60,000 miles (even though it was a royal pain to get the car level and high enough off the ground to get under it with a gallon hand pump. )
I use the Toyota genuine cartridge oil filters but wonder if well known aftermarket companies make equal or better cartridge filters for Toyotas. You've made your point that cheap knockoffs can do damage.
Once again, your videos, your advice, and the way you share it has not only given me satisfaction but has elucidated me and many others to understand how to maintain our vehicles that much better.
I've been buying some ATF thru eBay. Always check out where it is coming from and it is usually a small shop. I assume they had extra from a case left over. I will have to stop that and buy from the dealer or some of the shops on Ebay that are dealers selling on eBay. It cost so much more at the dealer, but this was the last straw, I can't take a chance on counterfeits. Thanks for another video!!
Remember, a seller on eBay is not necessarily who they claim to be. Quite a few Toyota dealers sell parts through their website.
The tranny fluid is crap. Drain it immediately
Autozone sells some Toyota brand oil filters, which is more convenient than going to a dealer.
Wow, congrats on closing in on half a million subscribers!! It should, honestly, be in the millions due to the great content!!!
Give it another year 😉
Thanks brother! Hope you’re doing well!
@@TheCarCareNut Doing great but my car questions is growing so waiting for next live session!! 😎
One of the attractions of the channel is that it is relevant to everybody who owns or is thinking of buying a Toyota of any sort. The higher the quality of the merchandise the more important it is to treat it right.
My present 2020 Camry and my former 2005 Camry have seen all authentic Toyota oil filters. Nothing but.
I've been able to crush a few aftermarket oil filters when I was a lube tech at the Toyota dealership. You can tell if their last oil change was done by the dealership with quality parts, or done with cheap aftermarket parts sometimes.
Also it's cool that some aftermarket companies have intentionally improved their quality on the Toyota canister-style oil filters.
What do you mean by canister style because the spin-on filters are canister filters but a lot of people call the cartridge style filters canisters...
You are a God send for the rest of us.
Well.....now that you've scared the crap out of us for using aftermarket filters.....
Not aftermarket... Aftermarket counterfeits claiming to BE OEM. There's a difference.
@@njsongwriter Point taken. I've used Fram filters in my 2003 Toyota Tundra (and others) for nearly 20 years with no problems.
I rarely buy from my local Toyota dealer as they are very expensive. I buy from several Toyota dealers in another state. These dealers I order from are Significantly less expensive than my local dealer.
OMG, i'm going to buy original filters at the dealer from now on, I absolutely will not risk destroy my engine for a crappy oil filter, that's insane!
Thank you for the quality information as always.
Counterfeit is far worse than cheap aftermarket. Chances are that only the genuine Toyota and a small number of aftermarket are capable of the manufactures service intervals.
Thanks for sharing! On a separate note, I am really curious to learn your opinion of the anticipated Toyota Crown, and how it compares with the 1980s/90s Crowns from reliability and ingenuity perspectives 😊
Hi! Haven’t driven one yet. We’ll get one in the future hopefully and do a full review
Mom and pop parts guy here. My family had a parts store since the early 50's. The first "foreign" parts we started stocking was filters for early 70's Datsun and Toyotas. We stocked an aftermarket brand, IAPCO. When the "Chinese hat" air filter came out for the 80's Nissan pickup, there was only OEM avail in our area...approx $25; lots of money in those days. Soon, IAPCO had it avail at about $6 our cost. I opened the box to check the quality and was surprised that they overboxed an OE Nissan filter, box and all.
What about a quality oil filter from Wal Mart or an auto parts store.such as Mobil 1 of Purulator?
Or Royal Purple,
or K&N.
You forgot to mention the Original manufacturer that Toyota uses to produce their oil filter: Denso. Besides for a few difference in-house Q/C, Denso(JP) is the direct OEM, relabeled for Toyota. They also are made in Thailand, in majority as well, and are very well made.
1st Thanks for the video. Thanks for the warning. Be aware getting cheap auto parts in auction site.
There are many incident fake spark plugs destroyed the engine.
Amd- You should do a video and open up a genuine oil filter & compare it. ❤
i bought my filter on amazon, been seeing these counterfeit filter videos recommended nonstop. it looks fine and oem but all these videos make me want to go to the dealer and change it. especially since i have the good 4AGE silvertop with 20 valves, id be sadden if this gem of a japan import to die over a fake filter that couldve changed for a couple bucks
Do you recommend the oil filter adapter for Toyotas that use the inferior cartridge inserts?
It lets you use a regular oil filter canister.
I wouldn’t honestly. Get an original filter and don’t over tighten the canister. What’s inside the regular filter is the same as the canister
TY as always AMD for an in depth look at what can happen if you try to save dollars thinking your buying genuine and end up buying counterfeit filters. So sad to think that a owner who loves and looked after their pride and joy may lose out badly over a oil filter. I have posted this video on our Toyota Owners Club Site here in Australia as many have the 2GRFE engine, and I am sure this will prove valuable for their information on what to look for and listen for in engine noise. TY
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I have the same problem with my 2014 Toyota Highlander 2GR-FE Engine. I use only Toyota filter and oli.. A year ago I stop using Toyota and star use mobile 1.now I started to hear the ticking noise .. After seeing this video I will go ahead and start using my original oil and Filter. Let me see if the noise will go away. I do all my service myself. Thank you for your video it was very helpful...
How many miles did they go on that filter. I may have missed it if you said. Plenty of reputable filters besides oem that may look a bit different.
I think this is a counterfeit Toyota filter though. from what he says in the video it doesn't look correct.
I think that's the same engine as is in my gf's 2009 es350. That's a great powerplant. We feed it synthetic
I've had this loud ticking happen on my 12 camry v6 a few times from the back bank! she's been quite as ever since switching to 5w30 and no more Fram filters.
The frame ULTRA is actually as well made as Mobil 1's because that top line Fram is mesh backed and used a completely different synthetic material. Most people don't know this because everyone likes to regurgitate the hate fram bandwagon without actually studying beyone the sensationalism of the ocod.
Which Fram filter were you using? Extra Guard, Tough Guard or Ultra Synthetic?
@@njsongwriter the ultra synthetic. It does look well made which is why I would use it but sticking to oem just to be safe.
I just bought out the lease for my 2020 Camry, I plan to keep this car for at least 250-500K miles. 5k 0w-16 Amsoil, and an honest mechanic is all I'll need.
Sounds like that could be more than you need.
Also aware of counterfeits Brake pads! I run in trouble with dangerous brakepower. Was all new done with disc and calibers. But the pads gone to hot while braking and disc went wavy...
Since Walmart oil is so cheap compared to buying it anywhere else, I always get the Toyota filter while I'm there just since it's right there and you stand by Toyota made products so much
I have a 2001 Nissan Sunny 1.4 port injection 16 valve. I buy all my filters from the Nissan dealers. They're a bit expensive, but more than worth it for me for piece of mind. I change the oil every 10k kilometres (6000miles, and the fuel filter (on firewall) ,air filter and spark plugs every 30k km. (18, 750 miles). I use Castrol Magnatec oil and I bought this car brand new, and it's still in mint condition. I'm a diesel technician by trade.
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I have learn so much from your videos! My husband and I along our new brand new 2022 Highlander thank you so very much!
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maybe bits of the broken filter are caught in the VVT-i filter screen causing the issue, I would check that first before pulling the whole engine out.
He already did that.
why not give the name of the filter that was supposedly breaking apart. as it sure looked like it came apart.
For more on the VVT rubber oil lines, search LSC-90K.
Awesome video and information AMD. Thank you for opening up our eyes to be aware of this huge problem!
I use a lot of aftermarket parts, which requires due diligence. I especially prefer aftermarket parts from the OEM suppliers. Toyota filters are cheaper than all but the worst aftermarket filters on the market. I mail order from dealerships and pay $3 less than Wal-mart when purchased by the case.
This is why I will always use original equipment Manufacturer parts. Dispite the higher costs of these parts. They are what's preferred to maintain top quality of your car or truck
A long , long time ago , I worked with a guy who , after many years of saving bought his first car , it was a Lada Riva , ( I know , but times were hard , and they were better than walking in the rain )....he cherished it , kept it immaculate, its first service was done at the dealers , ......he thought he would save a few quid on its second service by getting it done at the local back street garage , .....shortly afterwards the engine had bad problems , it turned out the second service was done without using a genuine Lada oil filter , which apparently had a non-return valve in it , the non-genuine one did not have one of those , the engine still ran , but it was damaged ,
Many oil filters are slipping in quality, so far mann and fleetguard seem to be keeping it up.
Since the beginning, he has been emphasizing on the importance of timely oil changes and using the correct parts and lubricants; here we have another piece of proof of how important it is. Another great video!! keep up the good work AMD.
We're talking about an oil filter something that's relatively inexpensive to buy regardless of where you buy it. Unfortunately there are people who will leave dollar bills lay on the ground so they can pick up the pennies. This is a prime example of this save $2 or $3 on an oil filter so you can pay for a $6,000 engine job or buy a whole new vehicle.
As soon as motorcraft went to the sticker labels I got 6 fake filters, 3 from amazon and 3 from walmart website actually sold by walmart!
Luckily I had an old painted can filter to compare, Ford had me send them in and sent me new ones. The antidrainback valve was different shade, the holes inside were different shape and the filter media and pleats looked different.
Toyota OEM oil filters are cheaper than the brand name filters too.
I have an 08 highlander limited 3.5 and have flushed the engine and use fram XG9972 for mine. Still runs like new, no leaks no problems. But if you want an upgrade you can get the TRD filter from the dealership for around $22 depending on where your at.
M1C-251A Mobil 1 oil filter seems OK compared to OEM for the 2ARFE, the filter fits directly into the case.
The Fram Ultra Synthetic oil filter also seems like an equally good choice.
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My mechanic bought oil and filter for an oil change from local dealer. There was a severe supply limit. aRE THERE NO QUALITY AFTERMARKET FILTERS ?
PLEASE do a video on the leaking 2019-2021 RAV4 Roof rails.
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Yes the throwback to one of your earlier videos about counterfeit Toyota parts and part numbers etc .. great content awesome and very helpful information for any Toyota owner not just a specific model .. another great video AMD