Fun fact: many of the clan families are still around today, some of them having made the transition from landholding warlords to captains of industry, and some just blending into the general populace. Tokugawa Tsunenari, born in 1940, heads the Tokugawa Foundation, dedicated to preserving historical artifacts. His son went to U. Mich and is now a translator. Oda Nobunaga's direct descendant Oda Nobunari represented Japan in figure skating at the Vancouver Olympics.
very cool to see, I love to see remnants of clans and tribes still around in the modern era. Similarly in somalia, many tribes from the medieval period still exist and even still function relatively in the same way. Unfortunately this leads to some discrimination but its still cool to see tribes that were once known for dominating nearby regions or going toe to toe with european powers still exist.
It probably helps that most of the surviving daimyo were awarded Westernized peerages following the Meiji Restoration, making their lineages easier to trace
@@Karlss61 They are referring to Pokemon Conquest. A collab game between Koei Tecmo's Sengoku Musou (Samurai Warriors) and Nintendo's Pokemon. Where the characters of Sengoku Musou, like the aforementioned Oda Nobunaga, team up with Pokemons.
The battle of Okehazarma is a classic example of Sun Tzu. 1.) Use a small force to distract while your main force attacks. 2.) Use the terrain to your advantage. 3.) He who controls the battle, wins victory.
Sun Tzu, the man who taught Chinese nobility such strategy as 'you need supply routes' and 'avoid battles you are certain to lose' and 'consider lying'.
@@WolfbloodJakeWilliams he lived in the 400s BC when warfare wasn't thought out to such a degree, him outlining how to starve your enemy, when to fight, how to fight and more is revolutionary, its not like he lived in 1200-1500 when ways of war were pretty well established
This is why I say many history teachers are bad at their jobs, and the curriculum they have to teach isn't well designed. History is amazing, and often more fantastical than fiction. The Sengoku Jidai. Bismarck. The bird-mania that happened after Augustus defeated Antony. The Dancing Mania, when people literally danced until they dropped dead of exhaustion. The battles of Alesia, or Cannae, or Zama, or anything that Bellisarius did. The pyramids. The Roman's self-repairing concrete that lasts centuries that we only figured out how it works in 2023. Admiral Sun Yi Sun-sin. If people say history is boring, it's because they were taught it by someone who had lost their passion for it, because history is littered with the most incredible stories. History classes in school should be designed to get kids interested and excited about learning it.
Might be late but I kinda like it gives it an anime style which I'll be honest is one of the reasons I decided to look into Japanese history/history in general
3:00 Small nitpick, but this technically isn't a Catch-22 situation, but a Morton's fork. A catch-22 is a situation where you have to do A to do B, but A requires you already done B. For example, you have a locked chest with a fragile figure in it. You need the figure. The key to the chest is in the chest. To open the chest (A) you need the key (B) but the only way to get the key (A) is to open the chest (B). All requirements for success have interlocking requirements that make it impossible to move forward. Morton's Fork, on the other hand, is a situation where all choices lead to the same or similar conclusion, but for different reasons. You still need the figure intact. The key isn't in the chest, but on a pressure sensitive plate. If you remove the key from the plate, the trap will trigger, and a boulder will smash the chest. If you don't grab the key, then you can't get the figure out of the chest, while if you do grab the key, the figure will be in a million pieces (and no, you do not have the skill or the glue to put it back together). Same result, different reasons.
It's time for Who's Going To Be The Next Shogun? Usually it's the shogun's kid, but the shogun doesn't have a kid, so he tries to get his brother to quit being a monk and be the next shogun. He says okay, but then the shogun has a kid. So now who's it gonna be? Vote now on your phones! And everyone voted so hard, that the palace caught on fire and burned down. (Onin War) The shogun actually didn't care, he was somewhere doing poetry. And the whole country broke into pieces. (Sengoku Jidai) Everyone is fighting with each other for local power, and it's anybody's game. Knock knock, it's Europe. No, they're not here to take over (yet). They just wanna sell some shit. Like clocks. And guns. And ♫ Jesus ♫ So that's cool, but everyone's still fighting each other for control, now with guns. And wouldn't it be nice to control the capital, which right now is puppets, with no one controlling them. This clan (Imagawa) is ready to make a run for it. But first, they have to trample this smaller clan (Oda) which is in the way. Surprise! Smaller clan wins, and the leader of that clan (Oda Nobunaga) steals the idea of invading the capital, and invades the capital. It goes very well. He's about halfway through conquering Japan, when someone who works for him kills him. And then someone else who works for him (toyotomi hideyoshi) kills him. And that guy finishes conquering Japan. And then he confiscated everybody's swords. And made some rules. "And now I'm going to invade Korea, and then hopefully China," he said, and failed, and also died. But before he died, he told these 5 guys to take care of his 5 year old son until he's old enough to be the next ruler of Japan. And the 5 guys said "Yeah, right. It's not gonna be this kid, it's gonna be one of us. Because we're grownups. And it's probably gonna be this guy (tokugawa ieyasu) who happens to be way more rich and powerful than he others. A lot of people support him, but a lot of people support not supporting him. They have a fight. He wins! And starts a new government right here. ♫ Edo ♫ And he still lets the emperor dress like an emperor, and have very nice things. But don't get confused, this is he new government, and they are very strict. So strict, they closed the country.
I liked fall of the Samurai far more. More advanced era, rail lines were an interesting late game element and since the game was a technology rip off from Empire the mechanics worked allot better with firearms.
+Cayen S This is pre Walpole, but then he is the ultimate Time Travelling Bastard, who seems to be repsonsible for everything... unless WALPOLE IS A NINJA!
I'm loving Extra History so far!!!!! Another good topic for another series would be the War of the Roses. Or even a non-war topic like the Renaissance or Industrial Revolution? Or perhaps do a focus on an individual in history like Columbus, Caesar Augustus, or Savonarola. Extra History has incredible potential to cover anything in history AND MAKE IT INTERESTING to those of us who had difficulty finding interest when we were first taught.
What I'd really like to see, the birth of Quantum Physics. It starts with Max Planck thinking about how to make a better light bulb, and ends with america building the bomb to take down the nazis. The characters in the story, a huge mix of wildly different personalities, all came together despite often having seriously divergent opinions on all manner of topics.
Columbus was not nearly as important as the textbooks make him. Actually his role in discovering America was pretty insignificant. Not exactly sure why American textbooks leeched onto him as the discoverer of the new world...
Kippoushi (Nobunaga's childhood name) is said to have often played with the hostage Takechiyo (Ieyasu's childhood name) during his days of captivity in Owari. This probably played a big part in both sides suing for peace when they did.
According to the game "Nobunaga's Ambition: Sphere of Influence" during his time as a hostage in Owari, Tokugawa Ieyasu recognize Oda Nobunaga right away when they met for the first time because of how "dopey" Nobunaga looks.
Hello there! A friend recommended I watch this last night, and I had to say the 9 minutes of this video went by in the blink of an eye! About to binge your entire sengoku jidai list :D Brilliant work!
I admit Sengoku Jidai is one of the history I really look forward to learn. Since I've played Samurai Warriors, of course. heehee! The Battle of Okehazama is one of those iconic battles. Surely this totally describes both Nobunaga Oda's leadership, wits, cunning, and his ruthlessness to slaughter all of the Imagawa clan, thus earning his reputation.
If you liked #ExtraHistory's take on Sengoku Jidai and want to learn more by playing games, check out Gaijin Goombah's thoughts on the Sengoku Basara series: bit.ly/1Qe3JkT
+Extra Credits Let me see if I have this straight. Ieyasu was taken hostage in 1548 and released 8 years later. Does that mean he was 8 when he was taken hostage!?
This has been an unbelievably good series on the Japanese feudal era ... I have been interested in it ever since falling in love with anime like Rourini Kenshin and Inu Yasha. The videos were terrifically informative and historically sound, a rare find for these days of psuedo-historical works. I have become a Patreon of #ExtraHistory. Looking forward to your work on the Panama Canal, one of the greatest achievements of the US, the Eastern Front in WWII, the Hundred Years war and the Crusades.
Real life: "In the grim dark past of Japan there is only war..." Meanwhile in EU4 Enforce peace Annex your lands Enforce peace Annex your lands Enforce peace Annex your lands Enforce peace Annex your lands ... JAPAN IS UNITED! Why do those stupid damios think they can fight wars without shogun's interference?
Thank you so much Extra Credits for telling the tales of one of my favorite periods of history. I'm a little disappointed that you guys decided not to follow the rivalry between Takeda Shingen and Uesugi Kenshin, but I love how you're following my other favorite daimyo Oda Nobunaga. Dude's a badass
Extra History is quickly becoming a cornerstone in a triumvirate of historical material amongst the things I watch and listen to online; alongside Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcasts and the vlogbrothers' Crash Course: World History, both of which I'd highly recommend if you liked this. That's a hell of a spot for a show derived from video game discussion to find itself in - and I applaud the work of the Extra Credits crew for their efforts. You folks are doing a great job - keep it up!
I binge watched these videos for 4 hours and I now know more about the history of the middle east and Asia than I ever learned in my highschool world-history classes.
This is pretty cool. Having watched 'Shogun' as a kid and playing Kessen III (which follows the story of Nobunaga), this is all very interesting. Also, the Matsudaira boy who was rescued by the Imagawa changed his given name to Motoyasu when he took over the Matsudaira clan. The Moto taken from "Yoshimoto Imagawa". When he allied with Nobunaga he changed his name to Ieyasu Tokugawa and remained one of Nobunaga's most faithful allies till his death.
Kessen III is a lot of fun, but if you want another excellent experience based on the era, you should try out the Nobunaga's Ambition series. More political than Kessen, but that's part of what makes this time period so interesting.
It was actually the game Samurai Warriors 2: Empires that first got me interested in the era. I've also played the first Kessen, Nobunaga's Ambition: Iron Triangle, and Shogun 2, and I'm waiting for Samurai Warriors 4 to fall in price a bit so that I can afford it with my budget.
***** Well aside from the fact that they've had fights with just about every european countries. I mean the US sttll makes fun of the French for Surrendering in WW2 never mind that France had still not recovered from WW1. Then there's the whole thing with the british.you know former colony and all that.
Would you like to know more? Check out Crash Course: World History, Part I and II, and/or Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast (in the case of the latter, I recommend starting with the Wrath of the Khans series - awesome stuff, esp. for those of us whose US/European public school system education didn't really cover much in the way of Asian history beyond brief mentions).
My history teacher showed us this channel, and the first videos we watched were the ones on the Byzantine Empire. I've always been interested in Japanese history, and this is a very good video. I can't wait to watch my Yasu-kun lead!
As excellent as the new EC/EH episodes are, I still find myself missing the older era of the channel. Re watching them I can't quite pinpoint why as of yet, so maybe it's just nostalgia.
Oda Nobunaga's character is one that is most outright hard to pin down. He's pragmatic to the point of eccentricity (for that time), yet always ready to expend resources (people) that aren't 100% at his disposal. He has vision and stratagem to spare, yet seems prone to take such incredible, high-stakes risks. Sometimes, I can't tell if he actually cares for his friends/family or if he sees them mostly as pawns. He was brilliant in his conquest and policies, yet ruthless was his reign. He's an interesting character of history to say the least.
Lovely episode, but I have a few quips: 1) I feel like Nobunaga's the most interesting of the 3 Unifiers and should have been given a lot more focus; 2) Motoyasu (Ieyasu) and Nobunaga already met prior to their alliance--they were childhood friends and practical considerations aside, that little fact played a considerable part in their partnership, and 3) The Oda...wasn't that powerful of a clan. Owari was just small province, and Nobuhide and Nobunaga's military leadership aside, no one believed the Oda ever stood a chance against a clan as powerful as the Imagawa...until Okehazama happened and Nobunaga pursued his vision of conquest. (The man was as ballsy and brilliant as he was brutal and eccentric.)
I too feel like they didn't give Nobunaga the credit he deserves, It seems like they have already decide to show Ieyasu as the ultimate badass in the era.....but in reality? He was a bastard, a cold murderer of his own sons sending them to their doom and a kidnapper. Nobunaga? He was called "the fool of Owari" and that move on the imagawa prove the land he was SERIOUS BUSSINESS
Luis Aguilar Well to be fair, Ieyasu did care about the people and ruled with that idea in mind. He was still a brutal warlord--don't get me wrong, but he genuinely was a badass figure who led an amazing life. Unfortunately, compared to Nobunaga and Hideyoshi...his story kinda pales in comparison. I mean let's just take Nobunaga for example: Nobunaga was a recognized military genius who didn't really think the same way as most Japanese nobles. He didn't care much for rank or bloodlines or titles, seemed to have been contemptuous of gods and deities when most held that they should at least be respected, had a comparatively laid-back (and meritocratic) ruling style, promoted and improved trade, opened a tax-free market zone near his castle, his bodyguards and lieutenants are oftentimes composed of the same peasant brats he played (and wrestled) with as children ; he sang and danced whatever the hell he wanted to, did his own thing despite the amount of constant criticism he gets on a daily basis (as well as the general belief before Okehazama that he was a self-indulgent simpleton), was very receptive to new and novel ideas (especially in regards to the west) invented new battlefield tactics (especially in the deployment of firearms), and was probably a bisexual. The man, by all accounts, was REALLY, REALLY WEIRD...which of course means that a lot of time people misunderstand him (like with the gold-plated skull episode), and because of his own eccentricities, the way he responds to these misunderstandings was often quite odd as well: when people began calling him "Dairokuten Maou" (Demon King of the Sixth Heaven) after the Mt. Hiei episode, he seemed to have taken a liking to it and adopted it for himself. Part of the reason he got such a bad reputation was because he challenged and flat-out antagonized much of the common-held values of his time and a lot of people saw him as a violent reformer. And of course, because of the Hiei scenario, the monks understandably didn't like him. And they were the ones doing most of the writing. The man embodied the unpredictable nature of the times, was both hero and villain to most of his contemporaries, and at least for me, he also embodies a few delightful traits of the Japanese people: innovation and a special love for novelty. His reputation is recovering in more recent portrayals of him in Japan partly because I feel that because of modern Japan's very rigid and conservative (and frankly disillusioning) social structure, he now represents the new generation's (romantic) desire to reform and change their country--to "take their fate into their own hands", "to go against the old world" and to "prove themselves after being underestimated" like Nobunaga did, and also because the younger Japanese people are, like him, generally more open to foreign concepts than their predecessors, and now see the wisdom in his policies and his adoption of foreign ideas. In many ways, he's become the spirit of Japanese counter-culture.
In other words, he was what Nitzche would call a superman, Ieyasu was nothing at his side. Meanwhile, Hideyoshi Hashiba was a peasant that rise from literally nothing and was too a weird man for the timw (he marry because of love, that was weird by its own means)
I really must say, great job on all this. Me being a feudal Japan enthusiast can tell you sure did your research. Although to be honest, I'm not an expert on this, but great job!
One point for the recap correction in the end: Oba Nobunaga's kabuto doesn't have that crest. The sloped crest is of Date Masamune, from what I found Nobunaga had sort of a "standard" crest on his helmet.
As much as I adore your work here, I'd love to know more of the reasons behind the clan wars. You guys mentioned, glanced over, almost, that the one who controls the Shogun controls Japan... But was it really that simple? It seems... thin... Anyway, it's a really good episode, and I can't wait to see more of this series! Neat job, guys!
Well, I *think* it's like this. The Shogunate is Japan's military leader, basically the only person with more authority then him is the emperor himself. If a clan could march on Kyoto, defeat the shogunate, and claim the title, they will be basically the military leader of Japan, thus kinda controlling it. It's basically a fight to become the alpha male of the pack of wolves. This information could be completely inaccurate though so please don't take my word for it.
Nogitsune Actually, the Emperor was a figurehead for almost the entierity of Japan's history, unlike the one in China. The Shogun had much more real power than he did. The emeperor's role was as a spiritual and cultural leader, and he and his court spent most of their time on pointless rituals in the capital. Outward displays of status. Only a few Emperors managed to break this mold.
Unahim Enter Emperor Meiji, gunpowder and the Boshin Senso. It amazes me to this day that Japan turned from an almost medieval state to a fully modernised, armed nation almost entirely under his rule.
second time watching the sengoku jidai series in years and I think I have a better understanding of following the story and the names since I know much more about the historical context.
I can't believe this series is two years old now! I watched this when it came out and it doesn't feel like more than 6 months! Oh, time, there you go making fools of us all again. On another note I'm getting in the mood for some Shogun 2 again.
@@arvinbuensalida6239 yep. I do want a AC game in warring states Japan. Where the assassins. Are actually templars, shown at the end. Seeking to bring order to japan
You know, I've got to say, these are a lot more engaging when you go in not knowing anything about the period. I'm actually glad I've put off learning about the particulars of ww1 and the sengoku period up til now, won't have the story spoiled :)
re watched this series again, I think this has to be my fifth time... good job guys, its is very well put together and I really enjoy your other videos too!! I have watch most historical videos at least twice lol
Heads up everyone getting into this series! The last episode comment section was full of people who complained over not following the story with all them foreign names that "all sound the same", so here's the *three* names you need to remember: *Nobunaga, Tokugawa,* and *Hideyoshi.* Whatever happens in the video, listen for Nobu, Toku and/or Hide. Those are your cues to pay attention, the other names are supporting characters that you may put to memory if you have enough attention span left for it, but don't bother if the lack of western names are already a struggle for you.
Not gonna lie, I have some problems with the narrative you're trying to spin here. First, its pretty weird to talk about Nobunaga without mentioning his earlier battle with Saito Dosan or his reputation. He was the "Fool of Owari." He was underestimated by -everyone-. You also seem to want to make this story just about Nobunaga and Ieyasu--which is one hell of a sin (of ommission). You're giving the latter far more credit than he deserves. Of the three great unifiers, Nobunaga conquered Japan, but Hideyoshi was the one who got to rule Japan and the one who built its new government and established many of the social policies that would define and eventually contribute to the collapse of the Tokugawa Shogunate. His is also the more interesting tale of the three--as he was not born into samurai nobility; he was born a peasant. And he rose to become to most powerful man in the country. All Ieyasu did was inherit/usurp the Toyotomi government. But maybe these are inevitable problems with reducing such a vibrant and dynamic period of history to a few short cartoons. Still, at the very least you should have known that Miyamoto Musashi was not a Sengoku-era person at all. There are some (unsubstantiated) rumors that he fought at Sekigahara, popularized in Yoshikawa's novel, but even if that here true, it was the LAST battle of the Sengoku period. Musashi was a person of the early Edo-period.
It's also a bit weird how they marked kyoto the prefecture and not kyoto the city .... but anyhow ... i think this is mostly going to be about the unification of japan and I'm not entirely sure buuuttt at this point of time Hideyoshi wasn't really a factor yet. I'm not even sure if he already reached the status of an official vasall of nobunaga. I think that happened a lot later actually .... and he realy is the least know out of the three among those who didn't realy study japanese history (meaning anime and manga fans)
Considering that this was the first episode that focused on one small part of the whole deal... don't get depressed yet. This time focus was on these two. Who knows about the next time? I mean, their WW1 video didn't start with focus on the Czar and his deliberations, or other such stuff.n.
I'd suggest waiting for the full series to be completed before complaining of its small scope--they're only just getting started. They're already mentioned Hideyoshi in the beginning, and made an oblique mention of Hideyoshi's origins. I'm sure they'll be covering him--and the broader events of the period--in more detail in later episodes.
This one is just awesome. Japan's history has always been fascinating for me. I request the extra history team to make some more series of interesting events in the Japanese history.
These videos honestly make me despite the educational system. I’ve learned so much more history in 2 days by watching your videos than I’ve ever done in school
I remember coming across a documentary about one of those leaders in the Tokugawa clan. They describe the guy as being a great political strategist. He was a good military too but he was able to figure out in this terrible time utilizing strategic diplomacy, politics, and setting up connections was important for him as much as military activities.
I wonder whether you would like to consider making the Chinese Spring-Autumn and/or Warring States Extra History? It may be less well-known to the west compared to the Japanese Sengoku Jida, due to lack of games/mangas centered on this periord which Sengoku Jida enjoys. But really there are interesting stories there fitting very much to the style of this series.
+fingerling54 But the sengoku jidai is the warring states era. That is literally what it translates to. Sen from Sensou (war) goku was the word for country or state. Jidai literally means great time or era. But I am assuming you mean the Chinese warring states.
+fingerling54 There are several games about the warring states period in China, both western and even Japanese (for example all those Dynasty Warriors...). I don't think the period isn't unknown or not represented. But a video about it would be very interesting yes. I want them to do so many videos about so many periods actually. ahah.
+xenotypos Well, what you said exactly proved my point: that the Chinese Warring States Period (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warring_States_period) is relatively unknown to the west (you seem to be French). Dynasty Warriors is about the Three Kingdom Period (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Kingdoms), which, thanks to KOEI, is better known worldwide.
fingerling54 Oh, I admit I indeed confused the two, I just thought you refered the the three kingdoms warring each other by "warring states". It's a fact that the three Kingdoms period is at least as known as the Sengoku Jidai, I also played for a while at a recent episode of the turn based strategy wargame Romance of the Three Kingdoms (which was awesome), and I remember watching a film about this period too (didn't really like it, more a fantasm with supermen than history, but I guess the book is a bit like that too). I'd personnally prefer a video about the 3 Kindgoms before the warring states period, even if the two could be interesting probably (I just really want something that sumarize and analyse what happened there in the three kingdoms, and know the exact differences with the book).
I've seen multiple games and anime in which Nobunaga Oda is depicted as an evil monster leading an army of demons (the Onimusha series springs to mind, but it's *far* from the only one). Is there something specific he did to to earn this, or is it just one of those "He fights like the devil himself!" type rumor things? Will this media weirdness be covered?
Nobunaga had a reputation for being ruthless, and was reportedly not that pleasant of a person, treating his inner circle coldly and tactlessly. that probably has something to do with it.
My guess is a mix of being a very prominent (and VERY ambitious) figure in the unifying of Japan, the fact he had a strong interest in Western culture over his own (probably the earliest known and most famous inverse-otaku in that regard) even commiting actions that were loathable in Japanese culture (hiring people for their compentence as opposed to lineage, Oda really distrusted royalty and prefered trusting Ronin and peasantry) and, oh yeah, Mt Hiei. I won't spoil Mt. Hiei for you since Extra History will possibly be touching on that, but I can tell you about one fun fact, when he was a lad, Oda Nobunaga was dubbed "The Fool of Owari" until the very battle touched on in the video. You could probably imagine the expressions on everyone's faces when that fool made a fool of them!
He was supposed to be extremely ruthless. At one point he even had one of his most trusted retainers burn down his own village (and boy did that come back to bite him in the ass).
I have some confidence that much of Nobunaga's reputation is built by embezzlement and some corrupted hearsay. Maybe even people misconstruing much of what Nobunaga says. It probably didn't help that Hisahide Matsunaga was one of his vassals. The guy's historically infamous for chronic backstabbing, and sabotage.
gbindahouse94 Well of course he'd distrust royalty. All his advisers and high ranking guys told him to surrender or hide in the castle, and it was random peasants he picked up along the way that joined him in that battle in the video. After that, I'd be more likely to trust random joes than nobles! XD
The knight of badassness Sheesh. Have you read that? Took me six months. If they can sum it up in four episodes, I will sub them on Patreon on principle.
The knight of badassness I doubt it. Romance of the Three Kingdoms stems from The Yellow Rebellion, where China is still split like the Sengoku Japan. Problem is, Romance of the Three Kingdoms is way too complicated, with The rise of and fall of Yuan family, leading to more problems. The Rise Three Kingdoms are like 60% into the "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" period, with the Battle of Che Bi. Later ,"Juan" swoops in and screwed over "Wei", then proceed to finish off "Wu". And Shu were long gone before this happens. TL;DR You at need to at least have degree in Chinese history to know about "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", it is just....way too complicated =D
All history is complicated but a nice quick recap based on the early period (when Liu Bie was buddies with Cao Cao) would be nice. They have done WWI with no real problem.
I really like how you've finally stepped into the Sengoku Jidai, though I'd really like to see more of the actors involved: just a skim through the most popular Japanese media today (yes, anime and the like) will tell you that there are a lot of large-scale events that need to be covered here, most particularly the great Uesugi-Takeda rivalry, as well as the legends of people like Honda Tadakatsu; the "One-eyed Dragon" Date Masamune of Oshu; Sanada Yukimura, whose most trusted agent and leader of his Ten Braves, Sarutobi Sasuke, is basically a folk legend, and "The Eccentric" Maeda Keiji. EC pls.
+Justt436 Only if it was grounded in realism. Nothing would suck the interest out of the historical setting more than dudes jumping twenty feet in the air and running faster than a bullet.
I think they have made Sengoku era many, MANY different animes. After all, It is one of the most famous era in Japan. And Oda Nobunaga are really famous.
I'm guessing that the part about slicing off the spearhead was an embellishment--that's pretty much impossible to do in actual combat, no matter how sharp your sword is. A spear shaft that's flimsy enough to be sliced through would be useless even if it did still have its spearhead. Anyway, I was a bit worried when you said you'd cover Sengoku Jidai, since I've always found that stuff boring, but I'm enjoying this.
Yeah, I think that was just a bit of embellishment to make the story more exciting. It's pretty much impossible to chop off the head of a spear in just one blow like you see in the movies. Regardless, I still found the video interesting and I look forward to the next in the series. :D
It's not as though this is a new spear, though. It's just been used to kill a load of people, so it's probably a bit beaten up. I think it's perfectly possible
Guy Potts There's still the problem that swords don't come even close to cutting a decent spear shaft, especially when someone's just holding it where his arms will just move with the blow. I've cut across a hockey stick with an axe when I was a kid, you can tell when it's about to give way and you wouldn't use it as a weapon at that point.
You've never seen a Katana slice through different shit, have you? Regardless, I kinda want to see that cited, it's a cool thing to know such a level of detail was recorded somewhere and kept in tact all these years, so I'd hate for such a thing to be just added in for the sake of story telling.
Fun fact: many of the clan families are still around today, some of them having made the transition from landholding warlords to captains of industry, and some just blending into the general populace.
Tokugawa Tsunenari, born in 1940, heads the Tokugawa Foundation, dedicated to preserving historical artifacts. His son went to U. Mich and is now a translator.
Oda Nobunaga's direct descendant Oda Nobunari represented Japan in figure skating at the Vancouver Olympics.
very cool to see, I love to see remnants of clans and tribes still around in the modern era.
Similarly in somalia, many tribes from the medieval period still exist and even still function relatively in the same way.
Unfortunately this leads to some discrimination but its still cool to see tribes that were once known for dominating nearby regions or going toe to toe with european powers still exist.
Happened with lords in the uk, the decedents of medieval lords eventually became annoying pigs
@@joshme3659 so they didn’t change a bit
Kanako Date a descendant of Masamune Date was miss japan in 2018
It probably helps that most of the surviving daimyo were awarded Westernized peerages following the Meiji Restoration, making their lineages easier to trace
"Eventually, Nobunaga would grow bored of conquering Japan and instead spend his time raising Pokémon."
Underrated
O it’s funny
I dont get it
@@Karlss61 They are referring to Pokemon Conquest. A collab game between Koei Tecmo's Sengoku Musou (Samurai Warriors) and Nintendo's Pokemon. Where the characters of Sengoku Musou, like the aforementioned Oda Nobunaga, team up with Pokemons.
@@mdbr2 Some Pokemon/Warlord combos include Nobunaga/Zekrom, Hideyoshi/Reshiram, Iyeasu/Aggron, etc
The battle of Okehazarma is a classic example of Sun Tzu.
1.) Use a small force to distract while your main force attacks.
2.) Use the terrain to your advantage.
3.) He who controls the battle, wins victory.
“The opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.”
Sun Tzu, the man who taught Chinese nobility such strategy as 'you need supply routes' and 'avoid battles you are certain to lose' and 'consider lying'.
@@WolfbloodJakeWilliamssometimes, people miss the blindingly obvious, and it needs to be spelled out for some Noble idiots
@@WolfbloodJakeWilliams he lived in the 400s BC when warfare wasn't thought out to such a degree, him outlining how to starve your enemy, when to fight, how to fight and more is revolutionary, its not like he lived in 1200-1500 when ways of war were pretty well established
Fuckin based.
This whole historical arc is so dramatic and entertaining that it feels fictional, which makes its truth EVEN COOLER
This is why I say many history teachers are bad at their jobs, and the curriculum they have to teach isn't well designed.
History is amazing, and often more fantastical than fiction. The Sengoku Jidai. Bismarck. The bird-mania that happened after Augustus defeated Antony. The Dancing Mania, when people literally danced until they dropped dead of exhaustion. The battles of Alesia, or Cannae, or Zama, or anything that Bellisarius did. The pyramids. The Roman's self-repairing concrete that lasts centuries that we only figured out how it works in 2023. Admiral Sun Yi Sun-sin.
If people say history is boring, it's because they were taught it by someone who had lost their passion for it, because history is littered with the most incredible stories.
History classes in school should be designed to get kids interested and excited about learning it.
“We were born in order to die!” is one of the greatest historical quotes of all time.
i like that quote cuz it makes sense cuz i mean people were kinda born so they could die later
People make all these frantic efforts to stay alive and safe, just to end up dead later. Might as well go out with *GLORY*
Wow he's ordering his own army to die now?
7:37 Why are you censoring a decapitation? NONE OF YOUR CHARACTERS HAVE NECKS!
Well your comment ment something because eventually they did uncensor decapitation.
Might be late but I kinda like it gives it an anime style which I'll be honest is one of the reasons I decided to look into Japanese history/history in general
Hahaha pointless.
Armless.
Neckless.
BOI
That makes it worse.
Dad:"What do you want to be when you grow up?"
Daughter:"I want to be a samurai and slaughter my enemies!"
Dad:"That's my girl!"
Tadakatsu and Ina
Daughter's name wasn't Tomoe Gozen, by any chance?
Wheres the funny
@@KawaiiCanadafreememes left right before you saw this post
thats relatable
3:00
Small nitpick, but this technically isn't a Catch-22 situation, but a Morton's fork.
A catch-22 is a situation where you have to do A to do B, but A requires you already done B. For example, you have a locked chest with a fragile figure in it. You need the figure. The key to the chest is in the chest. To open the chest (A) you need the key (B) but the only way to get the key (A) is to open the chest (B). All requirements for success have interlocking requirements that make it impossible to move forward.
Morton's Fork, on the other hand, is a situation where all choices lead to the same or similar conclusion, but for different reasons. You still need the figure intact. The key isn't in the chest, but on a pressure sensitive plate. If you remove the key from the plate, the trap will trigger, and a boulder will smash the chest. If you don't grab the key, then you can't get the figure out of the chest, while if you do grab the key, the figure will be in a million pieces (and no, you do not have the skill or the glue to put it back together). Same result, different reasons.
10/10 Too many words -IGN
You have to be crazy to read all that.
Hayden Miller `1/10 Not enough words -IGNorant
Ricky Oswald Hurray, I'm crazy!
notbobby125 really, for ffs who cares.
It's time for Who's Going To Be The Next Shogun? Usually it's the shogun's kid, but the shogun doesn't have a kid, so he tries to get his brother to quit being a monk and be the next shogun. He says okay, but then the shogun has a kid. So now who's it gonna be? Vote now on your phones! And everyone voted so hard, that the palace caught on fire and burned down. (Onin War) The shogun actually didn't care, he was somewhere doing poetry. And the whole country broke into pieces. (Sengoku Jidai) Everyone is fighting with each other for local power, and it's anybody's game. Knock knock, it's Europe. No, they're not here to take over (yet). They just wanna sell some shit. Like clocks. And guns. And ♫ Jesus ♫ So that's cool, but everyone's still fighting each other for control, now with guns. And wouldn't it be nice to control the capital, which right now is puppets, with no one controlling them. This clan (Imagawa) is ready to make a run for it. But first, they have to trample this smaller clan (Oda) which is in the way. Surprise! Smaller clan wins, and the leader of that clan (Oda Nobunaga) steals the idea of invading the capital, and invades the capital. It goes very well. He's about halfway through conquering Japan, when someone who works for him kills him. And then someone else who works for him (toyotomi hideyoshi) kills him. And that guy finishes conquering Japan. And then he confiscated everybody's swords. And made some rules. "And now I'm going to invade Korea, and then hopefully China," he said, and failed, and also died. But before he died, he told these 5 guys to take care of his 5 year old son until he's old enough to be the next ruler of Japan. And the 5 guys said "Yeah, right. It's not gonna be this kid, it's gonna be one of us. Because we're grownups. And it's probably gonna be this guy (tokugawa ieyasu) who happens to be way more rich and powerful than he others. A lot of people support him, but a lot of people support not supporting him. They have a fight. He wins! And starts a new government right here. ♫ Edo ♫ And he still lets the emperor dress like an emperor, and have very nice things. But don't get confused, this is he new government, and they are very strict. So strict, they closed the country.
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🎶It's time for World War I🎶
Great... Prologue I think?
+Christopher OBrien +Christopher OBrien its a reference to a video called " History of japan" made by bill wurtz
how about sunrise land lol
I find myself revisiting the Warring States videos often, I must say they’re one of the best ones EC has produced!
Agreed!
i wanted to watch the last samurai series again but every time i come back to the sengoku jidai series
@@Karlss61 Yeah me too :D
I like this narrator way better than the newer one
Same
Watching this makes me want to play total war shogun 2 again.
*Our men are running from battlefield sh-shamefur dispray*
@@cuirassier4296 I remember hating to hear that when my guys retreated
I liked fall of the Samurai far more. More advanced era, rail lines were an interesting late game element and since the game was a technology rip off from Empire the mechanics worked allot better with firearms.
@@Hortifox_the_gardener Shamefu' display!🔥
When is the next steam sale for shogun 2
I think I've been watching too much extra credits. Heard the line "someone tipped off the Oda" and I was expecting them to say "It was Walpole."
+Cayen S This is pre Walpole, but then he is the ultimate Time Travelling Bastard, who seems to be repsonsible for everything... unless WALPOLE IS A NINJA!
weldonwin I get that this is before Walpole, but in my heart I would like to think he was affecting things well before and well after his time.
Eichiro Oda?
@@cayen1234 walpole caused 9/11
@Robert Walpole
I'm loving Extra History so far!!!!! Another good topic for another series would be the War of the Roses. Or even a non-war topic like the Renaissance or Industrial Revolution? Or perhaps do a focus on an individual in history like Columbus, Caesar Augustus, or Savonarola. Extra History has incredible potential to cover anything in history AND MAKE IT INTERESTING to those of us who had difficulty finding interest when we were first taught.
+1 for War of the Roses!
War of the Roses would be a good one, as would the War of the Three Kingdoms.
What I'd really like to see, the birth of Quantum Physics. It starts with Max Planck thinking about how to make a better light bulb, and ends with america building the bomb to take down the nazis. The characters in the story, a huge mix of wildly different personalities, all came together despite often having seriously divergent opinions on all manner of topics.
Columbus was not nearly as important as the textbooks make him. Actually his role in discovering America was pretty insignificant. Not exactly sure why American textbooks leeched onto him as the discoverer of the new world...
Savonarola? They should do a video on the Borgias. Makes for a better show.
Kippoushi (Nobunaga's childhood name) is said to have often played with the hostage Takechiyo (Ieyasu's childhood name) during his days of captivity in Owari. This probably played a big part in both sides suing for peace when they did.
Shogun 2. "Our men are fleeing the battle field. SHAMEFUL DISPRAY!"
THIS IS A BLACK DAY! OUR GENERAL HAS FALLEN MY LORD!
BAH! OUR ESTEEMED ALLY HAS TURNED ABOUT, LEAVING US TO THE MERCY OF OUR FOES!
LandoTheOracle "EveryONE GRAB YOUR SAMURAI SWORDS AND SHAVE YOUR BUTT," this is a line from a movie called Rush Hour 2 hahahahah!
sharkfinbite R and L aren't even close to each other. I judge you.
LOL your shogun 2 remark is so much gold!
Who else is here because total war shogun 2 is free atm?
YEEESSSS!!
Me
Just conquerd japan with Oda Nobunaga and my peasant army :D
our men are running from the battlefield
shameful display
@@bitterivan1938 My Lord a glorious victory will soon be yours
Fun fact: The word Jidai was were George Lucas got the idea for the Jedi
OMG HOW DID I NOT SEE THAT. I always knew the Jedi were based on Samurai but this… this is the ultimate reference
How could you be so sure? The stormtroopers are the ones based in samurai culture, not the jedi.
That WAS actually what they were called before their merging with the republic.
Source, please ?
@@syn_2529 The Jedi's uniform looks like a Kimono.
"Kill my son. In doing so, you will show the Imigawa just how committed to out allegiance I am." DESTRUCTION 1000000
couldn't imagine japan without tokugawa
According to the game "Nobunaga's Ambition: Sphere of Influence" during his time as a hostage in Owari, Tokugawa Ieyasu recognize Oda Nobunaga right away when they met for the first time because of how "dopey" Nobunaga looks.
Your Friendly Yandere
Yay, I'm not the only person who plays that game (or still plays it anyway.
Hello there! A friend recommended I watch this last night, and I had to say the 9 minutes of this video went by in the blink of an eye! About to binge your entire sengoku jidai list :D
Brilliant work!
Fantastic video. Thanks for letting us collaborate with you :)
Is Oda odanobunaga
Hey about the gun odanobunaga used gun but why you no talk about it
youtubeplayer 309 first off oda nobunga second the guy didn’t wield a firearm yet
Phillipe Steele
What?
Danny Devito’s twin up
P he
I admit Sengoku Jidai is one of the history I really look forward to learn.
Since I've played Samurai Warriors, of course. heehee!
The Battle of Okehazama is one of those iconic battles. Surely this totally describes both Nobunaga Oda's leadership, wits, cunning, and his ruthlessness to slaughter all of the Imagawa clan, thus earning his reputation.
If you liked #ExtraHistory's take on Sengoku Jidai and want to learn more by playing games, check out Gaijin Goombah's thoughts on the Sengoku Basara series: bit.ly/1Qe3JkT
Nice. ^-^
Extra Credits I got a suggestion for you. How about doing a topic no one expected? Ferdinand Magellan and the philippines.
+Extra Credits COMMIT SEPIKU!!!
liam megahy
Ehh? No.
+Extra Credits Let me see if I have this straight. Ieyasu was taken hostage in 1548 and released 8 years later. Does that mean he was 8 when he was taken hostage!?
This has been an unbelievably good series on the Japanese feudal era ... I have been interested in it ever since falling in love with anime like Rourini Kenshin and Inu Yasha. The videos were terrifically informative and historically sound, a rare find for these days of psuedo-historical works. I have become a Patreon of #ExtraHistory. Looking forward to your work on the Panama Canal, one of the greatest achievements of the US, the Eastern Front in WWII, the Hundred Years war and the Crusades.
Real life: "In the grim dark past of Japan there is only war..."
Meanwhile
in
EU4
Enforce peace
Annex your lands
Enforce peace
Annex your lands
Enforce peace
Annex your lands
Enforce peace
Annex your lands
...
JAPAN IS UNITED!
Why do those stupid damios think they can fight wars without shogun's interference?
Thank you so much Extra Credits for telling the tales of one of my favorite periods of history. I'm a little disappointed that you guys decided not to follow the rivalry between Takeda Shingen and Uesugi Kenshin, but I love how you're following my other favorite daimyo Oda Nobunaga. Dude's a badass
Extra History is quickly becoming a cornerstone in a triumvirate of historical material amongst the things I watch and listen to online; alongside Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcasts and the vlogbrothers' Crash Course: World History, both of which I'd highly recommend if you liked this.
That's a hell of a spot for a show derived from video game discussion to find itself in - and I applaud the work of the Extra Credits crew for their efforts.
You folks are doing a great job - keep it up!
I really love your "story-telling" style for every video, and those cute animations too
good video but ...
× Imigawa
○ Imagawa
phew, I thought I'm the only one notice....
Idk witch one
@@elaineofhouston x means wrong, o means right
@@nijuujuuyon94uhhh thanks for helping me understand
I binge watched these videos for 4 hours and I now know more about the history of the middle east and Asia than I ever learned in my highschool world-history classes.
So, was this the era of history with the Giant Enemy Crabs in it?
Sorry, but no. Giant enemy Crab was during Heian period, which was around 11th-12th century
Yes. Attack the weak point for massive damage.
***** Checks out.
And after the Japanese found which weak point they could attack for massive damage, the Giant Crab was quickly driven to extinction.
This is pretty cool. Having watched 'Shogun' as a kid and playing Kessen III (which follows the story of Nobunaga), this is all very interesting.
Also, the Matsudaira boy who was rescued by the Imagawa changed his given name to Motoyasu when he took over the Matsudaira clan. The Moto taken from "Yoshimoto Imagawa". When he allied with Nobunaga he changed his name to Ieyasu Tokugawa and remained one of Nobunaga's most faithful allies till his death.
Re: the second part... You're going to enjoy a moment a few scripts down the line ; )
-JP
Kessen III is a lot of fun, but if you want another excellent experience based on the era, you should try out the Nobunaga's Ambition series. More political than Kessen, but that's part of what makes this time period so interesting.
Matsudaira Takechiyo
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Matsudaira Motonobu
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Matsudaira Motoyasu
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Matsudaira Ieyasu
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Tokugawa Ieyasu
It was actually the game Samurai Warriors 2: Empires that first got me interested in the era. I've also played the first Kessen, Nobunaga's Ambition: Iron Triangle, and Shogun 2, and I'm waiting for Samurai Warriors 4 to fall in price a bit so that I can afford it with my budget.
Currently playing Sengoku Basara 4 lol
Oh god, I just realized that I know nothing about history of continents other than Europe (and maybe N. America).
***** THat's kinda because Europe fucked with the history of every place in the world to a degree.
***** Because 'murica is heavily influenced by Europe, more than most countries.
*****
Well aside from the fact that they've had fights with just about every european countries. I mean the US sttll makes fun of the French for Surrendering in WW2 never mind that France had still not recovered from WW1. Then there's the whole thing with the british.you know former colony and all that.
ehh in my classes I learned a lot about both Americas and Europe, a lot of the middle east and just a little bit about africa and east asia.
Would you like to know more?
Check out Crash Course: World History, Part I and II, and/or Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast (in the case of the latter, I recommend starting with the Wrath of the Khans series - awesome stuff, esp. for those of us whose US/European public school system education didn't really cover much in the way of Asian history beyond brief mentions).
4:37 "A once-great clan was destroyed utterly." Freaking loved that Total War reference
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My history teacher showed us this channel, and the first videos we watched were the ones on the Byzantine Empire. I've always been interested in Japanese history, and this is a very good video. I can't wait to watch my Yasu-kun lead!
Do the Three Kingdoms era of China!!!! :)
I mean makes sense this war is what Samurai Warriors series is based off of.
I second this. Maybe a series for each of the kingdoms.
Also the seven warring states of china
Yassss!!! I grew up playing KOEI historical sims so these warring periods of Ancient China and Japan always fascinate !
a series about Wu Zetian would be great too
Sengoku Jidai! So excited to see your take on this fascinating period. Already learning new things.
Yesssss! New Extra History is always a great day! I've been looking forward to this series.
As excellent as the new EC/EH episodes are, I still find myself missing the older era of the channel. Re watching them I can't quite pinpoint why as of yet, so maybe it's just nostalgia.
Oda Nobunaga's character is one that is most outright hard to pin down. He's pragmatic to the point of eccentricity (for that time), yet always ready to expend resources (people) that aren't 100% at his disposal. He has vision and stratagem to spare, yet seems prone to take such incredible, high-stakes risks. Sometimes, I can't tell if he actually cares for his friends/family or if he sees them mostly as pawns. He was brilliant in his conquest and policies, yet ruthless was his reign. He's an interesting character of history to say the least.
Lovely episode, but I have a few quips: 1) I feel like Nobunaga's the most interesting of the 3 Unifiers and should have been given a lot more focus; 2) Motoyasu (Ieyasu) and Nobunaga already met prior to their alliance--they were childhood friends and practical considerations aside, that little fact played a considerable part in their partnership, and 3) The Oda...wasn't that powerful of a clan. Owari was just small province, and Nobuhide and Nobunaga's military leadership aside, no one believed the Oda ever stood a chance against a clan as powerful as the Imagawa...until Okehazama happened and Nobunaga pursued his vision of conquest. (The man was as ballsy and brilliant as he was brutal and eccentric.)
I too feel like they didn't give Nobunaga the credit he deserves, It seems like they have already decide to show Ieyasu as the ultimate badass in the era.....but in reality? He was a bastard, a cold murderer of his own sons sending them to their doom and a kidnapper. Nobunaga? He was called "the fool of Owari" and that move on the imagawa prove the land he was SERIOUS BUSSINESS
Luis Aguilar Well to be fair, Ieyasu did care about the people and ruled with that idea in mind. He was still a brutal warlord--don't get me wrong, but he genuinely was a badass figure who led an amazing life.
Unfortunately, compared to Nobunaga and Hideyoshi...his story kinda pales in comparison.
I mean let's just take Nobunaga for example:
Nobunaga was a recognized military genius who didn't really think the same way as most Japanese nobles. He didn't care much for rank or bloodlines or titles, seemed to have been contemptuous of gods and deities when most held that they should at least be respected, had a comparatively laid-back (and meritocratic) ruling style, promoted and improved trade, opened a tax-free market zone near his castle, his bodyguards and lieutenants are oftentimes composed of the same peasant brats he played (and wrestled) with as children ; he sang and danced whatever the hell he wanted to, did his own thing despite the amount of constant criticism he gets on a daily basis (as well as the general belief before Okehazama that he was a self-indulgent simpleton), was very receptive to new and novel ideas (especially in regards to the west) invented new battlefield tactics (especially in the deployment of firearms), and was probably a bisexual. The man, by all accounts, was REALLY, REALLY WEIRD...which of course means that a lot of time people misunderstand him (like with the gold-plated skull episode), and because of his own eccentricities, the way he responds to these misunderstandings was often quite odd as well: when people began calling him "Dairokuten Maou" (Demon King of the Sixth Heaven) after the Mt. Hiei episode, he seemed to have taken a liking to it and adopted it for himself. Part of the reason he got such a bad reputation was because he challenged and flat-out antagonized much of the common-held values of his time and a lot of people saw him as a violent reformer. And of course, because of the Hiei scenario, the monks understandably didn't like him. And they were the ones doing most of the writing.
The man embodied the unpredictable nature of the times, was both hero and villain to most of his contemporaries, and at least for me, he also embodies a few delightful traits of the Japanese people: innovation and a special love for novelty. His reputation is recovering in more recent portrayals of him in Japan partly because I feel that because of modern Japan's very rigid and conservative (and frankly disillusioning) social structure, he now represents the new generation's (romantic) desire to reform and change their country--to "take their fate into their own hands", "to go against the old world" and to "prove themselves after being underestimated" like Nobunaga did, and also because the younger Japanese people are, like him, generally more open to foreign concepts than their predecessors, and now see the wisdom in his policies and his adoption of foreign ideas. In many ways, he's become the spirit of Japanese counter-culture.
In other words, he was what Nitzche would call a superman, Ieyasu was nothing at his side. Meanwhile, Hideyoshi Hashiba was a peasant that rise from literally nothing and was too a weird man for the timw (he marry because of love, that was weird by its own means)
What do you expect from a pop-art inspired
He gets more focus in the next few parts. There are six parts of this series, so a
7:00 it's like reverse Thermopylae
I really must say, great job on all this. Me being a feudal Japan enthusiast can tell you sure did your research. Although to be honest, I'm not an expert on this, but great job!
This is still one of my fav channels and has just popped up in my recommendation
The animations are lit !! 😀 every work is amazing ! Thanks for your efforts
Who is the eldest son? Who could possibly be that one mysterious fi- It was Walpole.
KONO WALPOLE DA!!!!!
*KONO WARUPORU DA!!
One point for the recap correction in the end: Oba Nobunaga's kabuto doesn't have that crest. The sloped crest is of Date Masamune, from what I found Nobunaga had sort of a "standard" crest on his helmet.
As much as I adore your work here, I'd love to know more of the reasons behind the clan wars. You guys mentioned, glanced over, almost, that the one who controls the Shogun controls Japan... But was it really that simple? It seems... thin...
Anyway, it's a really good episode, and I can't wait to see more of this series!
Neat job, guys!
Quote: "And whoever controls the Shogun, *at least in theory*, controls Japan."
I was thinking similar.I for one will be looking for more information on that I think. Something to do before the next one comes out.
Well, I *think* it's like this. The Shogunate is Japan's military leader, basically the only person with more authority then him is the emperor himself. If a clan could march on Kyoto, defeat the shogunate, and claim the title, they will be basically the military leader of Japan, thus kinda controlling it. It's basically a fight to become the alpha male of the pack of wolves. This information could be completely inaccurate though so please don't take my word for it.
Nogitsune
Actually, the Emperor was a figurehead for almost the entierity of Japan's history, unlike the one in China. The Shogun had much more real power than he did. The emeperor's role was as a spiritual and cultural leader, and he and his court spent most of their time on pointless rituals in the capital. Outward displays of status.
Only a few Emperors managed to break this mold.
Unahim
Enter Emperor Meiji, gunpowder and the Boshin Senso. It amazes me to this day that Japan turned from an almost medieval state to a fully modernised, armed nation almost entirely under his rule.
I am so glad that Extra Credits was smart and thoughtful enough to include both the Near and Far East in this brilliant series.
One of coolest yt channels ever!!!!
One of my favorite historical periods. I hope you cover Masamune Date and Takeda Shingen, even if it's just a brief bit.
second time watching the sengoku jidai series in years and I think I have a better understanding of following the story and the names since I know much more about the historical context.
Came back from the Netflix series to rewatch this masterpiece!!!
What Netflix series? Just curious
I can't believe this series is two years old now! I watched this when it came out and it doesn't feel like more than 6 months! Oh, time, there you go making fools of us all again.
On another note I'm getting in the mood for some Shogun 2 again.
More than a century of non-stop Samurai war. That's horrifically metal.
who came here because of the new tv show shogun?
Anjin-sama?
I did
Shogun II Total War. Seen this before, yet I should see Shogun.
It's their fault for letting their general die so early in the battle... Oda clans ashigaru spam defeated them.
Play as Oda in Total War Shogun and destroy the Imigawa and Tokugawa in a few turns
0:00. That opening jingle makes me so happy!
It has become some what of a tradition to rewatch this series once a year.
You have a real talent telling a story, I was holding my breath all the way. This was so fun and instructive. Thanks for sharing!
I'm really hoping for an Assassin's Creed game set in this period
We got Ghost of Tsushima... So... Kinda?
@@garrettlaundry357 ghost of Tsushima is based on the 1200s, when kublai khan tried to invade Japan.
@@arvinbuensalida6239 yep. I do want a AC game in warring states Japan. Where the assassins. Are actually templars, shown at the end. Seeking to bring order to japan
5:57 Dutch Van Der Linde's Ancestor
Looks like him too
@@pastorofmuppets4552 yeah 😂
I love how a lot of these battles are won with cunning strategy, tricks, and tactics rather then just mindless brute strength and numbers.
You know, I've got to say, these are a lot more engaging when you go in not knowing anything about the period. I'm actually glad I've put off learning about the particulars of ww1 and the sengoku period up til now, won't have the story spoiled :)
Wow I feel like this came out yesterday
Boshin war, please?
I second this
yes please
I third this
Or....
Simon Bolivar.
>:>
Kamchatskiye PSYCHIC
Here's a suggestion for a Extra History: the Genpei War and the Rise of the Samurai in
Golden Age of Extra History
re watched this series again, I think this has to be my fifth time... good job guys, its is very well put together and I really enjoy your other videos too!! I have watch most historical videos at least twice lol
Heads up everyone getting into this series! The last episode comment section was full of people who complained over not following the story with all them foreign names that "all sound the same", so here's the *three* names you need to remember:
*Nobunaga, Tokugawa,* and *Hideyoshi.*
Whatever happens in the video, listen for Nobu, Toku and/or Hide.
Those are your cues to pay attention, the other names are supporting characters that you may put to memory if you have enough attention span left for it, but don't bother if the lack of western names are already a struggle for you.
Not gonna lie, I have some problems with the narrative you're trying to spin here. First, its pretty weird to talk about Nobunaga without mentioning his earlier battle with Saito Dosan or his reputation. He was the "Fool of Owari." He was underestimated by -everyone-. You also seem to want to make this story just about Nobunaga and Ieyasu--which is one hell of a sin (of ommission). You're giving the latter far more credit than he deserves. Of the three great unifiers, Nobunaga conquered Japan, but Hideyoshi was the one who got to rule Japan and the one who built its new government and established many of the social policies that would define and eventually contribute to the collapse of the Tokugawa Shogunate. His is also the more interesting tale of the three--as he was not born into samurai nobility; he was born a peasant. And he rose to become to most powerful man in the country. All Ieyasu did was inherit/usurp the Toyotomi government.
But maybe these are inevitable problems with reducing such a vibrant and dynamic period of history to a few short cartoons.
Still, at the very least you should have known that Miyamoto Musashi was not a Sengoku-era person at all. There are some (unsubstantiated) rumors that he fought at Sekigahara, popularized in Yoshikawa's novel, but even if that here true, it was the LAST battle of the Sengoku period. Musashi was a person of the early Edo-period.
You're absolutely right.
Hearing Musashi being associated with Sengoku Jidai raised quite an eyebrow.
Considering they said that "even a peasant could end up becoming ruler of Japan", I'm fairly sure that Hideyoshi will come up. ;)
It's also a bit weird how they marked kyoto the prefecture and not kyoto the city .... but anyhow ... i think this is mostly going to be about the unification of japan and I'm not entirely sure buuuttt at this point of time Hideyoshi wasn't really a factor yet. I'm not even sure if he already reached the status of an official vasall of nobunaga. I think that happened a lot later actually .... and he realy is the least know out of the three among those who didn't realy study japanese history (meaning anime and manga fans)
Considering that this was the first episode that focused on one small part of the whole deal... don't get depressed yet. This time focus was on these two. Who knows about the next time?
I mean, their WW1 video didn't start with focus on the Czar and his deliberations, or other such stuff.n.
I'd suggest waiting for the full series to be completed before complaining of its small scope--they're only just getting started. They're already mentioned Hideyoshi in the beginning, and made an oblique mention of Hideyoshi's origins. I'm sure they'll be covering him--and the broader events of the period--in more detail in later episodes.
"Sit back and watch me win this" -Oda Nobunaga
This one is just awesome. Japan's history has always been fascinating for me. I request the extra history team to make some more series of interesting events in the Japanese history.
These videos honestly make me despite the educational system. I’ve learned so much more history in 2 days by watching your videos than I’ve ever done in school
I remember coming across a documentary about one of those leaders in the Tokugawa clan. They describe the guy as being a great political strategist. He was a good military too but he was able to figure out in this terrible time utilizing strategic diplomacy, politics, and setting up connections was important for him as much as military activities.
I'm having a REALLY hard time keeping track of the clans and the names. Hope it'll get better
just focus on the emblems
Play some Total War: Shogun 2 and you'll know them in no time :p
I think I was able to recognize most, if not all, "mon" shown this episode.
FreaperFTW Jandau85 Good points both. It's one of the best games in the series anyways, so it's worth a re-visit :)
this will be interesting, out of all of world history east asian is probably the one I know the least about as a whole.
MrBKainX I’m opposite of ya
Wow, that`s amazing how interesting and useful this content may be due to the great explanation followed by the animation! Thanks a lot !!!
This video is a great intro to the Sengoku Jidai! Thank you!
And that is why Oda Nobunaga is also known as "The Fool".
Iggy!
He's also known as the Demon King
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Michael Bandada Piccolo?
I wonder whether you would like to consider making the Chinese Spring-Autumn and/or Warring States Extra History? It may be less well-known to the west compared to the Japanese Sengoku Jida, due to lack of games/mangas centered on this periord which Sengoku Jida enjoys. But really there are interesting stories there fitting very much to the style of this series.
+fingerling54 But the sengoku jidai is the warring states era. That is literally what it translates to. Sen from Sensou (war) goku was the word for country or state. Jidai literally means great time or era. But I am assuming you mean the Chinese warring states.
+fingerling54 There are several games about the warring states period in China, both western and even Japanese (for example all those Dynasty Warriors...). I don't think the period isn't unknown or not represented. But a video about it would be very interesting yes. I want them to do so many videos about so many periods actually. ahah.
+d Was I not clear in meaning exactly the Chinese warring states era?
+xenotypos Well, what you said exactly proved my point: that the Chinese Warring States Period (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warring_States_period) is relatively unknown to the west (you seem to be French). Dynasty Warriors is about the Three Kingdom Period (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Kingdoms), which, thanks to KOEI, is better known worldwide.
fingerling54
Oh, I admit I indeed confused the two, I just thought you refered the the three kingdoms warring each other by "warring states".
It's a fact that the three Kingdoms period is at least as known as the Sengoku Jidai, I also played for a while at a recent episode of the turn based strategy wargame Romance of the Three Kingdoms (which was awesome), and I remember watching a film about this period too (didn't really like it, more a fantasm with supermen than history, but I guess the book is a bit like that too).
I'd personnally prefer a video about the 3 Kindgoms before the warring states period, even if the two could be interesting probably (I just really want something that sumarize and analyse what happened there in the three kingdoms, and know the exact differences with the book).
I've seen multiple games and anime in which Nobunaga Oda is depicted as an evil monster leading an army of demons (the Onimusha series springs to mind, but it's *far* from the only one).
Is there something specific he did to to earn this, or is it just one of those "He fights like the devil himself!" type rumor things? Will this media weirdness be covered?
Nobunaga had a reputation for being ruthless, and was reportedly not that pleasant of a person, treating his inner circle coldly and tactlessly. that probably has something to do with it.
My guess is a mix of being a very prominent (and VERY ambitious) figure in the unifying of Japan, the fact he had a strong interest in Western culture over his own (probably the earliest known and most famous inverse-otaku in that regard) even commiting actions that were loathable in Japanese culture (hiring people for their compentence as opposed to lineage, Oda really distrusted royalty and prefered trusting Ronin and peasantry) and, oh yeah, Mt Hiei.
I won't spoil Mt. Hiei for you since Extra History will possibly be touching on that, but I can tell you about one fun fact, when he was a lad, Oda Nobunaga was dubbed "The Fool of Owari" until the very battle touched on in the video. You could probably imagine the expressions on everyone's faces when that fool made a fool of them!
He was supposed to be extremely ruthless. At one point he even had one of his most trusted retainers burn down his own village (and boy did that come back to bite him in the ass).
I have some confidence that much of Nobunaga's reputation is built by embezzlement and some corrupted hearsay. Maybe even people misconstruing much of what Nobunaga says.
It probably didn't help that Hisahide Matsunaga was one of his vassals. The guy's historically infamous for chronic backstabbing, and sabotage.
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Well of course he'd distrust royalty. All his advisers and high ranking guys told him to surrender or hide in the castle, and it was random peasants he picked up along the way that joined him in that battle in the video. After that, I'd be more likely to trust random joes than nobles! XD
I am studying for my Japanese history exam in uni through your videos and I just want to tell you how much I appreciate your work
The very thing that introduced me to this channel.
8:44: That's a whole new level of plot twist 0o0
I foresee another Extra History series based on the Romance of the Three Kingdoms (AKA the Dynasty Warriors story)
Already asked for it!
The knight of badassness Sheesh. Have you read that? Took me six months. If they can sum it up in four episodes, I will sub them on Patreon on principle.
Mostly but that was a long time ago now so a refresher from these guys would help.
The knight of badassness I doubt it. Romance of the Three Kingdoms stems from The Yellow Rebellion, where China is still split like the Sengoku Japan. Problem is, Romance of the Three Kingdoms is way too complicated, with The rise of and fall of Yuan family, leading to more problems. The Rise Three Kingdoms are like 60% into the "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" period, with the Battle of Che Bi. Later ,"Juan" swoops in and screwed over "Wei", then proceed to finish off "Wu". And Shu were long gone before this happens.
TL;DR You at need to at least have degree in Chinese history to know about "Romance of the Three Kingdoms", it is just....way too complicated =D
All history is complicated but a nice quick recap based on the early period (when Liu Bie was buddies with Cao Cao) would be nice. They have done WWI with no real problem.
Man this got me to play shogun 2 total war again for twelve hours straight
Why the hell haven't I found this channel before? I just love it! Instant sub!
This content is amazing 💯💪
I really like how you've finally stepped into the Sengoku Jidai, though I'd really like to see more of the actors involved: just a skim through the most popular Japanese media today (yes, anime and the like) will tell you that there are a lot of large-scale events that need to be covered here, most particularly the great Uesugi-Takeda rivalry, as well as the legends of people like Honda Tadakatsu; the "One-eyed Dragon" Date Masamune of Oshu; Sanada Yukimura, whose most trusted agent and leader of his Ten Braves, Sarutobi Sasuke, is basically a folk legend, and "The Eccentric" Maeda Keiji.
EC pls.
This is what a true battle royale is.
a hundred years of ceaseless war?
the hundred year war in europe : that's my boy
This series is the best you made. God I'm lucky to find this. Rewatching for 15th time.
So much detail here that I never knew!
Reference to Total War catches on
Yo like this would make a really badass anime.
Yea
+Justt436 Only if it was grounded in realism. Nothing would suck the interest out of the historical setting more than dudes jumping twenty feet in the air and running faster than a bullet.
I think they have made Sengoku era many, MANY different animes.
After all, It is one of the most famous era in Japan. And Oda Nobunaga are really famous.
Justt436 it did look at Naruto
There are animes based on it. If you want, try looking up Hyouge Mono.
I'm guessing that the part about slicing off the spearhead was an embellishment--that's pretty much impossible to do in actual combat, no matter how sharp your sword is. A spear shaft that's flimsy enough to be sliced through would be useless even if it did still have its spearhead.
Anyway, I was a bit worried when you said you'd cover Sengoku Jidai, since I've always found that stuff boring, but I'm enjoying this.
Yeah, I think that was just a bit of embellishment to make the story more exciting. It's pretty much impossible to chop off the head of a spear in just one blow like you see in the movies.
Regardless, I still found the video interesting and I look forward to the next in the series. :D
It's not as though this is a new spear, though. It's just been used to kill a load of people, so it's probably a bit beaten up. I think it's perfectly possible
Guy Potts There's still the problem that swords don't come even close to cutting a decent spear shaft, especially when someone's just holding it where his arms will just move with the blow. I've cut across a hockey stick with an axe when I was a kid, you can tell when it's about to give way and you wouldn't use it as a weapon at that point.
I think it's plausible if you look it as "breaking" the staff of the spear rather than slicing/chopping it.
You've never seen a Katana slice through different shit, have you? Regardless, I kinda want to see that cited, it's a cool thing to know such a level of detail was recorded somewhere and kept in tact all these years, so I'd hate for such a thing to be just added in for the sake of story telling.
Interesting video. I barley knew anything about japanese history prior to watching this so thank you for making this
Dang I miss old Extra history like this