This is literally the only video I've found going into great depth about using this XLR K3M. I was concerned it wouldn't be a smart investment because I don't want to deal with having to rewrap audio files in post before using them, but because I edit on Premiere and have the latest version, this video cleared that up for me. I actually am leaning towards purchasing an FX3 and my understanding is that the audio module on that camera functions similarly to the XLR K3M, so now that I have some clarification I feel a lot better moving forward with it. Thanks so much!
Can you talk on your experience? Thinking on FX3 because of the better XLR, but doesn’t have the EVF like A7S iii. I’ve watched numerous videos on comparing the two, but rarely any talk about the actual XLR. Especially with Shure SM7B, which is why this video was helpful from the A7s iii perspective
Awesome! Finally someone did an in depth review of one of these. You convinced me to get the k3m version even though I currently own an A7iii and an A6400
to be honest, I think it sounded better on the a7iii than the a7siii, but I also had a better understanding of my a7iii since I've used it way more. It is a great piece of gear for those looking for the convenience of audio straight to the card.
Sony has two types of MiShoe, the one in your video and the one on my FDR-AX100E, both named the same but not compatible. This is not documented anywhere. Shame on you Sony.
Thanks for the helpful vidéo ! Just found out a big problem on the A7S3 audio monitoring (using XLR-K3M with my A7S3). You can't chose which channel you want to monitor UNLESS you record 4 channels of audio (which is basically useless because not supported by NLE software). So if you're recording only two channels of audio (CH1/CH2), you CANT decide to monitor only CH1 or only CH2 in headphones. That sucks big time.
Great Video. If you had the previous models K1M or K2M could you test on the a7Siii as most operators may own those previous models. Because of a7Siii wanting a digital signal, a test with previous models would be an interesting and informative video to see if they are even compatible with a7Siii. Thanks.
I think a (magnetic) shielded USB cable could help to eliminate the interference. Is the quality of this module at a level that the audio quality is on thr the same level as the audio recorded with the FX6? That's an important question to answer before making a decision.. Besides this you are right that a cold shoe would be very handy for a lav receiver.
Oh this is a reason I purchase the A7SIII. To get 4 channels otherwise, need a $$$ cinema camera. Do not want to add encumbrances of off-camera recording, in the field. 240 fps slo mo is also useful to my work. I've used an older version of the XLR adapter on a Sony camcorder for 10 years, its worked well. Does have a cold shoe on top.
Panasonic has a similar XLR adapter, but also has a cold shoe mount... And it's $200 cheaper. Most people looking to buy something like this will already have XLR mics so it was beyond stupid to make it so you can only buy the adapter with an inferior mic.
I used an older version and rigged up a couple of sennheiser receivers on top. Eventually that rubber connector loosened up- that’s why they don’t want that extra weight on there
Great news! I have used the xlr-k2m extensively and had massive problems with the hot shoe connection. Its not very robust if you use it on a daily basis, so I switched to the xlr-k1m, which has an extra cable and mount for the unit so it doesnt put too much strain on the connector and it worked better but still I had some connection issues after a few months. I am not sure if the digital connection will work better. Right now I am sing a sound bag and record audio externally but its quite heavy, so I would be glad to switch back. Another problem was the mic mount which wasnt very shock absorbant. I had a lot of noise walking around, so I had to add a rycote shock mount and everything got a litte heavy and cluncy. I am afraid tha mic mount didnt change at all, so I am not sure if this is a great solution for documentary work..
@@DJJordanLeehow is your experience? I have a cloudlifter and Scarlet interface, and am considering FX3 over A7s iii. I assume I plug the Shure into the cloudlifter, and the cloud lifter into the XLR instead of the Scarlet??
I been looking for something like this as audio is one of the deciding factors when buying a camera. I truly appreciate how you go into detail about the 4 channel internal recording, I would also really love to see the review of the "Sony URX-P41D" in depth like this if possible! Just as a way to future proof my purchase choice. Thanks in advance!
Javier is not your Studio setup with the audio issue on the 3.5 jack while using power delivery.. that’s just a known issue period with audio. If you have an iPad connected with a 3.5 and have the power of the iPad connected you will get the same power issue.
This is such a great video, Javier! Thanks a lot for sharing. One question. What settings would you recommend in terms of volume levels (assuming studio a-roll vs vlog outdoors) and stuff when being used with the a7siii? Thanks again.
I keep it on auto most of the time if I don't know what I am facing and that just a good job, if I am monitoring it I set the levels but I keep it on auto all other times.
@@JavierMercedes thank you! Will give it a go as I plan to use it as vlog but also in studio. One last... did you keep the original mic (ECM-MS2) or replaced it with any other? I have one Sennheiser MKH 416-P48 coming soon, so I was thinking if that could also be a good fit to use it with the K3M!
Thank you Javier for best review of K3M on UA-cam. I am almost ready to get one but only one thing holding me - 24 bit audio incompatibility with FCPX. Do you know if that is solved now? Thanks!
Hi Javier is there a downside to connecting an XLR shotgun (like the NTG3) directly to a mirrorless via a sound recorder? I saw your other video on how to do this, and since I already have a Zoom H5 surely it makes no sense for me to buy the XLR-K3M. Or am I missing something? Thanks!
Thank you so much for going so deep into depth with the technical side of this...For us newbies who are trying their best to put out the best artwork...we already know it is an overwhelming task from brain to paper...now to add & study so much technical stuff & to learn the audio attachments and camera connections and make sure its set up for the A+ work plus alignment is a WHOLE nother level bruhhh!!! LOL So, I'm grateful to have come across this video where I can watch it on end until I fully understand what I am to do!!! Thank You Javier *kisses & hugs* 😍😘💜💛💖❤🩹
Nice review and those additional channels are a serious upgrade! I've been using the XLR-K2M for the last 4,5 years and it always worked nicely. It also doesn't come with a coldshoe mount on top but I think they did this on purpose. When I attach a wireless receiver like the AVX system directly into the XLR-K2M I sometimes get interference. Just to be safe I always use a XLR cable to move the receivers away from the adapter. I'm curious if the same problem would occur with the XLR-K3M because this makes me rig up my a7sii+xlr-k2m combo, which is a bit of a bummer. It would be nice to keep it compact.
@@JavierMercedes Yeah for sure! Being able to monitor through the camera, no need to sync, no extra batteries for the recorder needed, no need to push record on two devices, many advantages! :)
Got an issue. When I plug in the headphones into the headphone Jack on the camera, it instantly changes my tracks over from 4 to 2 on the monitor. What am I doing wrong? 😑
Great detailed video as there are not many about. Thank you. Could you shed some more light about correct db settings? 0db 10db or 20db whilst setting the camera to around 5db? I have been setting to 20db on the k3m and I have been relatively happy but when I compare it to my external sound recording I find that the external sound has a much better tone, more bass in my voice etc. Am I missing something?
Great video :) When I use my ninja V recording as .mov files I can only get 2 channels of audio going through to the ninja. In the a7siii HDMI output options, it only gives you the option to record channels 1+2 OR 3+4. Pretty annoying so I ended up removing the mic that came with it and running a lav into channel 2 and 416 into channel 1. Hope this changes in the future or I'm doing something wrong. Would be nice to have the shogun that came with it as a scratch audio track also. Regardless great piece of kit and good concise video brother :)
HELP ! man ...how to create proxy from a native file 4K or 8K from sony A1 , that has 4 audio tracks ?? Premiere seems to not be able to make a proper low quality Proxy in h264 !?!?!? any help please ? thanks !!
Thank you very much for the video, I bought the same Sony XLR K3M system and watched your video, can you use 3 microphones at the same time? System has 3 inputs in1 in2 in3, but if you can select only IN3 or (IN1+ IN2) or only IN1, there is no possibility that all 3 select IN1 + IN2 + In3 together. I would be very grateful for your reply. Kind regards Farnoud
I just got one of these and found that there's a rather annoying hiss on the inputs. I'm trying to drive a Rode PodMic with it. Can you drive your Shure SM7B with this? Or is this just a weak preamp?
I just did a test and recording with the Sony a7siii 4k with 4 channels of audio using two phantom powered mics, the battery is about 1 minute of video per battery percent, aka I recorded 20 minutes of video with 20% of battery left. I'm not sure how different that is without the mic, I would guess it eats about 25% of your battery.
Question. I just got the Sony fx3. I am not sure what microphone I can get for this camera and also what short cable to connect it to this interface and the microphone ! Can you give me a link to those two things ? Thanks
Hello Javier. I am new to the sound world. I am using the K3M on a Sony A7s iii. The audio is great but I cannot figure out how to use a wireless lav mic while using the directional mic at the same time. When I plug in the wireless receiver to the K3M, I lose the sound on the directional mic. Any advice would be helpful.
Hi Thanks for this! If I record two channels with the K3m, they end up being two mono's baked into one audio channel in Premiere Pro. How do I make each one stereo and also seperate from each other?
Hi man! Could you recommend something on how to mount an XLR microphone with K3M? I have Rode NTG5, and K3M mic holder is too wide for that. Wondering what is the right choice: to get a cage and a sidearm with a mic holder, or just find some rubber to put around lower part of a mic that will fit into a K3M holder?... Also what XLR to XLR short cable would you recommend? Thank you!
@@AleSalvino Hi, basically I've asked that question Rode and SmallRig and it seems this set up would work: SmallRig 3008 Professional Kit + Rode SM3-R Camera Mount + SmallRig HSN2093 and as for the short XLR-XLR I couldn't find one that's ready to buy so just ordered to manufacture one, 30 cm (including xlr adapters) seems to be ok length
If only Sony XLR-K3M had 3 XLR inputs I'll buy it with no hesitation. But I need a shotgun mic to XLR and 2 LAV's Sanken COS-11D which also have to go to XLR's... for interviews setup. And for that works something like Zoom H6 which could be routed directly into the camera through the line out: all tracks will merge into one and no sync is necessary. But XLR-K3M is "more native" to Sony cameras and there is no line out, sound is being recorded directly with a hotshoe mount. Honestly it is sad that after K2M Sony didn't think about that. Who needs 2 XLR and 1 TRS input?? If you go with XLR you stick with it. I'm gonna have to go with Zoom H6 until there is the Sony XLR-K4M :))
Understandable, One hot tip with the Zoom H6 and using the line out into your sony camera is to PAN your inputs hard left and right in the mixer. If I were in the situation I would split the Lavs to one side and the Boom to the other, that way you have some sort of isolation. You could also still utilize this technique with your h6 going into the stereo input 3 of your k3m, but it would still require an h6 to be handy.
@@JavierMercedes Thank you Sir! This is really helpful, I've heard about this trick somewhere but totally forgot it. Still waiting for my Sony A7S3 though ) here in Russia we're supposed to get it after 19th of November.
@@JavierMercedes Still thinking. Zoom H6 is great but you have to feed it AA batteries... which I hate to use and they're bad for the environment. Here is a thought, maybe with K3M you could use a shotgun mic to XLR input, one LAV with a Rode VXLR+ adapter to a second XLR input. And lastly, second LAV mic with it's 3.5mm to the 3.5 input. So... is it possible to record 3 audio tracks simultaneously?
Got it anyways :) With a Rode NTG5. Just have to get next few things too if you have an XLR mic that you want to use as a camera mic (setup for Sony A series): SmallRig 3008 kit + Rode SM3-R Camera Mount + short XLR-XLR cable + (optional) SmallRig HSN2093. Mount a mic on one handle (right is best) and external monitor on another. As for LAV mics, opted for two Deity w.lav pro's: one goes into 3.5 and another into second XLR input with a help of Rode VXLR adapter. Maybe this will help somebody :)
I have a slightly different scenario. I want to take stereo out of a mixer via two balanced 1/4 inch cables into the XLR combos on the fx3. Then I will use wireless go II into input 3. That would support both transmitters for either 2 channel, backup padded channel or mixed mono. Having hooked it up yet but will soon
Does anyone know if this adaptor bypasses the preamp in the camera body? When using this adaptor can you go to the menu in the camera and turn the record level all the way to zero and still get an audio signal? I use a7iii and want to bypass the camera preamp
Javier Mercedes I'm trying to use my Sony URX- P03D wireless system with the a7siii. The niShoe Audio Set. menu remains grayed out. Any suggestions or is this wireless system not compatible with the a7siii? FYI, the hot shoe is powering my receiver, just receiving audio in the camera. TIA.
I use my K3m audio all the time and haven’t used my h6 since buying the k3m for the most part. H6 might have better quality but I haven’t noticed since using the k3m for convenience. Hope that helps!
Hey Javier! Sorry for the rookie question: I’m not sure if I understand the whole functionality of the K3M… Is it main that is it an adapter to use XLR/phantom power mics with your Sony camera… Or does it also provide superior preamps and sound procesing?
Yes to all of those kind of. XLR inputs, Phantom Power, superior preamps, ultimately it saves you time by having the capability to record professional audio directly into the camera so you don’t need to use an external recorder.
Hi Javier, I’ve been having an issue with my K3M on my A7S III. Might be a very simple error but I can’t seem to figure it out. When I record with my Rode Procaster plugged into either Input 1 or 2, when I play it back I can only hear the sound from the left speaker/headphone. No idea why. Any help would be most appreciated
Yes you can! I tried to do this as well but I just got electrical noise on the signal, but definitely worth trying it before buying a splitter. It may have been how the electrical is setup in my workplace.
Zoom h5 external, wouldn’t that be out of sync with video need post clapper board sync. However get this and vid and audio are perfecting in sync and saved on camera sd card as video and audio. Or am i missing something? Is two channels of recording the same as stereo line input though?
Yes two channels of recording is same as stereo if you use stereo input. This can do up to 4 on the a7siii. You can split the input to two mono if you use the xlr or do stereo. Depending on how far away from the camera you are a clapper would still be needed to have perfect sync.
@@JavierMercedes Sorry for being so unspecific. I meant using 24bit recordings in editingsoftware. I use Davinci Resolve. Are the files still unusable/ unhearable? Will Sony tell us whether they have fixed te problem? Or do I have to contact Davinci?
Hi! now that you've been using this - can you tell me if this is actually recording separate 4 channels of audio on the physical video file (2 stereo tracks), or if it's simply mixing the 4 channels of audio on the K3M inputs down to 2 channels of audio (a traditional stereo file connected to the video file)? I have an A7Rii btw,. Thanks for your advice! It would be great if I could capture 4 separate audio signals.
4 separate channels paired to the one video file. Unfortunately you need the digital hot shoe mount on your Sony camera to access this. The A7Rii does not have this, it’s only analog. I think A7R4 and a7siii were the first camera in the alpha line to have the digital shoe mount.
This is literally the only video I've found going into great depth about using this XLR K3M. I was concerned it wouldn't be a smart investment because I don't want to deal with having to rewrap audio files in post before using them, but because I edit on Premiere and have the latest version, this video cleared that up for me. I actually am leaning towards purchasing an FX3 and my understanding is that the audio module on that camera functions similarly to the XLR K3M, so now that I have some clarification I feel a lot better moving forward with it. Thanks so much!
Can you talk on your experience? Thinking on FX3 because of the better XLR, but doesn’t have the EVF like A7S iii. I’ve watched numerous videos on comparing the two, but rarely any talk about the actual XLR. Especially with Shure SM7B, which is why this video was helpful from the A7s iii perspective
Awesome! Finally someone did an in depth review of one of these. You convinced me to get the k3m version even though I currently own an A7iii and an A6400
to be honest, I think it sounded better on the a7iii than the a7siii, but I also had a better understanding of my a7iii since I've used it way more. It is a great piece of gear for those looking for the convenience of audio straight to the card.
Sony has two types of MiShoe, the one in your video and the one on my FDR-AX100E, both named the same but not compatible. This is not documented anywhere. Shame on you Sony.
Well done video! Loved all the tests, troubleshooting, and setups! Thanks for making this!
Does anyone know if the 24bit codec is now supported in FCPX?
I just bought it. Looks cool. I like how it balances gm lenses a bit
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Them outdoor videos was clutch that’s really what I wanted to know
surprised how good the sony mic sounds
thanks man - i've owned this for a while now but am an audio idiot, so your review was really helpful.
THANK YOU! I was so confused on my a7iii why it wasn't recognizing the k3m
Thanks for the helpful vidéo ! Just found out a big problem on the A7S3 audio monitoring (using XLR-K3M with my A7S3). You can't chose which channel you want to monitor UNLESS you record 4 channels of audio (which is basically useless because not supported by NLE software). So if you're recording only two channels of audio (CH1/CH2), you CANT decide to monitor only CH1 or only CH2 in headphones. That sucks big time.
Getting mine tomorrow - thanks so much for the video!
Great Video. If you had the previous models K1M or K2M could you test on the a7Siii as most operators may own those previous models. Because of a7Siii wanting a digital signal, a test with previous models would be an interesting and informative video to see if they are even compatible with a7Siii. Thanks.
🙏🙏 best review of this device on UA-cam! Great work!
I think a (magnetic) shielded USB cable could help to eliminate the interference. Is the quality of this module at a level that the audio quality is on thr the same level as the audio recorded with the FX6? That's an important question to answer before making a decision.. Besides this you are right that a cold shoe would be very handy for a lav receiver.
What do you think, is a k3m in your future as a sony shooter?
Oh this is a reason I purchase the A7SIII. To get 4 channels otherwise, need a $$$ cinema camera. Do not want to add encumbrances of off-camera recording, in the field. 240 fps slo mo is also useful to my work. I've used an older version of the XLR adapter on a Sony camcorder for 10 years, its worked well. Does have a cold shoe on top.
@@stucarter good to know the previous version worked well for you Stu!
@@JavierMercedes The older XLR adapters functioned as a handle. Some Sony camcorders still do this. But the A7R is a "camera", so...form factor.
Panasonic has a similar XLR adapter, but also has a cold shoe mount... And it's $200 cheaper. Most people looking to buy something like this will already have XLR mics so it was beyond stupid to make it so you can only buy the adapter with an inferior mic.
Incredibly comprehensive, thank you!
I used an older version and rigged up a couple of sennheiser receivers on top. Eventually that rubber connector loosened up- that’s why they don’t want that extra weight on there
Very good to know. I figured it was something like that.
Great news! I have used the xlr-k2m extensively and had massive problems with the hot shoe connection. Its not very robust if you use it on a daily basis, so I switched to the xlr-k1m, which has an extra cable and mount for the unit so it doesnt put too much strain on the connector and it worked better but still I had some connection issues after a few months. I am not sure if the digital connection will work better. Right now I am sing a sound bag and record audio externally but its quite heavy, so I would be glad to switch back. Another problem was the mic mount which wasnt very shock absorbant. I had a lot of noise walking around, so I had to add a rycote shock mount and everything got a litte heavy and cluncy. I am afraid tha mic mount didnt change at all, so I am not sure if this is a great solution for documentary work..
Javier, gracias hermano; video is super helpful and excellent! 💛🙏🏼
I actually ordered it 4 weeks ago for the sony a7s iii ... was a no brainer. But still waiting for both of them :-)
Hi, great video. Love your work! Question: is there an audio limiter option on this device? Using with a7S3
Rather than getting XLR-KM3, better to invest in MixPre 6 ii by sound keys
This was great. Thanks for putting this together.
glad it was helpful Neil!
Not all camera will allow 4 channels audio, for example I believe you only get 2 on the sony zv-e10
Cool video, thank you for the explanations.
Great. This surely help me to decide. Thank you
ANALOGUE FOR A7III... Boy I had some pre-shoot fear with a "non compatible" error message. Thank you!
Very informative episode! Thanks.
Do you know if there is a Final Cut Pro version which can support the 24 bit audio?
is there a cable which supports this new multi interface hotshoe mic? so i can put it on a cage or something out of the way of the gimbal motors?
Are you plugging the SM7B directly into the camera handle without an audio interface, and are you also using cloudlifter? Thanks :)
Yes cloudlifter, no audio interface (the camera handle is an audio interface)
@@JavierMercedes thank you! Just got the FX3 :)
@@DJJordanLeehow is your experience? I have a cloudlifter and Scarlet interface, and am considering FX3 over A7s iii. I assume I plug the Shure into the cloudlifter, and the cloud lifter into the XLR instead of the Scarlet??
What do we do if the audio keeps clipping on Auto?
Use manual
This is super awesome. Amazing.
Did you have to use a cloud lifter on the Sm7b?
I been looking for something like this as audio is one of the deciding factors when buying a camera.
I truly appreciate how you go into detail about the 4 channel internal recording, I would also really love to see the review of the "Sony URX-P41D" in depth like this if possible! Just as a way to future proof my purchase choice.
Thanks in advance!
Could you use the shure sm7b to the adapter for podcast? 45 min to 90 min long please answer
Yes. I do it all the time!
Interesante saludos cordiales desde Lima Perú
Very useful review Thx!
Great video. I wonder if the issue with the continuous power when plugged in was ever resolved?
Javier is not your Studio setup with the audio issue on the 3.5 jack while using power delivery.. that’s just a known issue period with audio. If you have an iPad connected with a 3.5 and have the power of the iPad connected you will get the same power issue.
This is such a great video, Javier! Thanks a lot for sharing. One question. What settings would you recommend in terms of volume levels (assuming studio a-roll vs vlog outdoors) and stuff when being used with the a7siii? Thanks again.
I keep it on auto most of the time if I don't know what I am facing and that just a good job, if I am monitoring it I set the levels but I keep it on auto all other times.
@@JavierMercedes thank you! Will give it a go as I plan to use it as vlog but also in studio. One last... did you keep the original mic (ECM-MS2) or replaced it with any other? I have one Sennheiser MKH 416-P48 coming soon, so I was thinking if that could also be a good fit to use it with the K3M!
Somebody needs to tell black magic
I love this Adapter but REALLLY hate that they didnt put a hot shoe on the top. Like how am i supposed to put my Lav Receiver anywhere
you can use the rode video pro plus into zoom f2
Did you have to do anything fancy to set up your Shure SM7B into the XLR-K3M? Were you able to get 2 channels directly from the files?
Thank you Javier for best review of K3M on UA-cam. I am almost ready to get one but only one thing holding me - 24 bit audio incompatibility with FCPX. Do you know if that is solved now? Thanks!
any way to get the k3m xlr adapter without the microphone?
Hi Javier is there a downside to connecting an XLR shotgun (like the NTG3) directly to a mirrorless via a sound recorder? I saw your other video on how to do this, and since I already have a Zoom H5 surely it makes no sense for me to buy the XLR-K3M. Or am I missing something? Thanks!
Without the module, could use a wireless lav via the hot-shoe and then a hardwire boom into the mini-jack on the camera body? Two separate channels?
amigo muy buena data, gracias!!
Thank you so much for going so deep into depth with the technical side of this...For us newbies who are trying their best to put out the best artwork...we already know it is an overwhelming task from brain to paper...now to add & study so much technical stuff & to learn the audio attachments and camera connections and make sure its set up for the A+ work plus alignment is a WHOLE nother level bruhhh!!! LOL So, I'm grateful to have come across this video where I can watch it on end until I fully understand what I am to do!!! Thank You Javier *kisses & hugs* 😍😘💜💛💖❤🩹
Thank you so much for the kind words!
Nice review and those additional channels are a serious upgrade! I've been using the XLR-K2M for the last 4,5 years and it always worked nicely. It also doesn't come with a coldshoe mount on top but I think they did this on purpose. When I attach a wireless receiver like the AVX system directly into the XLR-K2M I sometimes get interference. Just to be safe I always use a XLR cable to move the receivers away from the adapter. I'm curious if the same problem would occur with the XLR-K3M because this makes me rig up my a7sii+xlr-k2m combo, which is a bit of a bummer. It would be nice to keep it compact.
Ahhhhh interference would be a good reason why, great point. I'm just glad devices like there exist to get good audio into your sony alpha cameras.
@@JavierMercedes Yeah for sure! Being able to monitor through the camera, no need to sync, no extra batteries for the recorder needed, no need to push record on two devices, many advantages! :)
I've used the XLR-K3 unit with my AVX receivers on the A7iii and A7Siii and never had an issue with interference. They seem to be a great combo.
Hi Rens, do you know if the K2M works with the A7siii?
@@muffythang it does, Jon. Just in analog mode. Frankly, I can’t hear the difference between analog and digital
No cold shoe because someone would mount there 7 inch monitor onto it and wonder why the hotshoe broke.
So helpful!
Got an issue. When I plug in the headphones into the headphone Jack on the camera, it instantly changes my tracks over from 4 to 2 on the monitor. What am I doing wrong? 😑
If you want to add the KM3 to a cage then how do I connect the KM3 to Sony A7S III?
Watching this June 2022; what version of PP did you upgrade to so that it would recognize the audio tracks? Thanks
CAN YOU USE ANY MIC?
Get a battery dummy power supply from Wasabi. I have two rigs and works great on both.
Was the power ac or dc. I’m wondering about a dc batter connected .. interference.?
Really versatile. Thanks
Glad it was helpful
Do you recomend it for car videos?
Great detailed video as there are not many about. Thank you. Could you shed some more light about correct db settings? 0db 10db or 20db whilst setting the camera to around 5db? I have been setting to 20db on the k3m and I have been relatively happy but when I compare it to my external sound recording I find that the external sound has a much better tone, more bass in my voice etc. Am I missing something?
Great video :) When I use my ninja V recording as .mov files I can only get 2 channels of audio going through to the ninja. In the a7siii HDMI output options, it only gives you the option to record channels 1+2 OR 3+4. Pretty annoying so I ended up removing the mic that came with it and running a lav into channel 2 and 416 into channel 1. Hope this changes in the future or I'm doing something wrong. Would be nice to have the shogun that came with it as a scratch audio track also. Regardless great piece of kit and good concise video brother :)
Can you use the SM7B with this? Or would you need the Cloudlifter in between the mic and this adaptor?
What about this compared to CoMica LINKFLEX AD3 ?
HELP ! man ...how to create proxy from a native file 4K or 8K from sony A1 , that has 4 audio tracks ?? Premiere seems to not be able to make a proper low quality Proxy in h264 !?!?!? any help please ? thanks !!
Thanks for the video! Dou you have a 24bit sample file that we could test in onther NLEs?
Do you need a CloudLifter or FetHead when using the Shure SM7B with the K3M?
What is the delay when recording a digital signal ?
Thank you very much for the video, I bought the same Sony XLR K3M system and watched your video, can you use 3 microphones at the same time? System has 3 inputs in1 in2 in3, but if you can select only IN3 or (IN1+ IN2) or only IN1, there is no possibility that all 3 select IN1 + IN2 + In3 together. I would be very grateful for your reply. Kind regards Farnoud
The hum on channel 3 is because its not a blanced cable
Ah thanks for the “input” ;) Jimmy!
@@JavierMercedes great video btw 👍🏻
Does it work via digital input on the Sony ZV-E10? And, does this replace the internal pre-amp, or do you have to set in camera pre-amp to 1?
I just got one of these and found that there's a rather annoying hiss on the inputs. I'm trying to drive a Rode PodMic with it. Can you drive your Shure SM7B with this? Or is this just a weak preamp?
Hi Javier! Thanks for the video. What about battery life? Considering phantom power...
I just did a test and recording with the Sony a7siii 4k with 4 channels of audio using two phantom powered mics, the battery is about 1 minute of video per battery percent, aka I recorded 20 minutes of video with 20% of battery left. I'm not sure how different that is without the mic, I would guess it eats about 25% of your battery.
Does it have a limiter?
Thank you!
Hey man. Great in depth video. Any idea if the importing issues have been resolved? I'm on FCPX and have a K3M on order but can't find any updates.
Unfortunately I’m not sure, I don’t use fcpx.
Question. I just got the Sony fx3. I am not sure what microphone I can get for this camera and also what short cable to connect it to this interface and the microphone ! Can you give me a link to those two things ? Thanks
Hello Javier. I am new to the sound world. I am using the K3M on a Sony A7s iii. The audio is great but I cannot figure out how to use a wireless lav mic while using the directional mic at the same time. When I plug in the wireless receiver to the K3M, I lose the sound on the directional mic. Any advice would be helpful.
Hi Thanks for this! If I record two channels with the K3m, they end up being two mono's baked into one audio channel in Premiere Pro. How do I make each one stereo and also seperate from each other?
Hi man! Could you recommend something on how to mount an XLR microphone with K3M? I have Rode NTG5, and K3M mic holder is too wide for that. Wondering what is the right choice: to get a cage and a sidearm with a mic holder, or just find some rubber to put around lower part of a mic that will fit into a K3M holder?... Also what XLR to XLR short cable would you recommend? Thank you!
have all the same questions, did you manage to find the answers? Thanks!
@@AleSalvino Hi, basically I've asked that question Rode and SmallRig and it seems this set up would work: SmallRig 3008 Professional Kit + Rode SM3-R Camera Mount + SmallRig HSN2093 and as for the short XLR-XLR I couldn't find one that's ready to buy so just ordered to manufacture one, 30 cm (including xlr adapters) seems to be ok length
If only Sony XLR-K3M had 3 XLR inputs I'll buy it with no hesitation. But I need a shotgun mic to XLR and 2 LAV's Sanken COS-11D which also have to go to XLR's... for interviews setup. And for that works something like Zoom H6 which could be routed directly into the camera through the line out: all tracks will merge into one and no sync is necessary. But XLR-K3M is "more native" to Sony cameras and there is no line out, sound is being recorded directly with a hotshoe mount. Honestly it is sad that after K2M Sony didn't think about that. Who needs 2 XLR and 1 TRS input?? If you go with XLR you stick with it. I'm gonna have to go with Zoom H6 until there is the Sony XLR-K4M :))
Understandable, One hot tip with the Zoom H6 and using the line out into your sony camera is to PAN your inputs hard left and right in the mixer. If I were in the situation I would split the Lavs to one side and the Boom to the other, that way you have some sort of isolation. You could also still utilize this technique with your h6 going into the stereo input 3 of your k3m, but it would still require an h6 to be handy.
@@JavierMercedes Thank you Sir! This is really helpful, I've heard about this trick somewhere but totally forgot it. Still waiting for my Sony A7S3 though ) here in Russia we're supposed to get it after 19th of November.
@@JavierMercedes Still thinking. Zoom H6 is great but you have to feed it AA batteries... which I hate to use and they're bad for the environment. Here is a thought, maybe with K3M you could use a shotgun mic to XLR input, one LAV with a Rode VXLR+ adapter to a second XLR input. And lastly, second LAV mic with it's 3.5mm to the 3.5 input. So... is it possible to record 3 audio tracks simultaneously?
Got it anyways :) With a Rode NTG5. Just have to get next few things too if you have an XLR mic that you want to use as a camera mic (setup for Sony A series): SmallRig 3008 kit + Rode SM3-R Camera Mount + short XLR-XLR cable + (optional) SmallRig HSN2093. Mount a mic on one handle (right is best) and external monitor on another. As for LAV mics, opted for two Deity w.lav pro's: one goes into 3.5 and another into second XLR input with a help of Rode VXLR adapter. Maybe this will help somebody :)
I have a slightly different scenario. I want to take stereo out of a mixer via two balanced 1/4 inch cables into the XLR combos on the fx3. Then I will use wireless go II into input 3. That would support both transmitters for either 2 channel, backup padded channel or mixed mono. Having hooked it up yet but will soon
Does anyone know if this adaptor bypasses the preamp in the camera body?
When using this adaptor can you go to the menu in the camera and turn the record level all the way to zero and still get an audio signal?
I use a7iii and want to bypass the camera preamp
Thanks alot
Javier Mercedes I'm trying to use my Sony URX- P03D wireless system with the a7siii. The niShoe Audio Set. menu remains grayed out. Any suggestions or is this wireless system not compatible with the a7siii? FYI, the hot shoe is powering my receiver, just receiving audio in the camera. TIA.
Good video! Post production convenience aside, how does the k3m compare with the zoom h6 in terms of pure audio quality?
I use my K3m audio all the time and haven’t used my h6 since buying the k3m for the most part. H6 might have better quality but I haven’t noticed since using the k3m for convenience. Hope that helps!
@@JavierMercedes helps a lot thanks! Trying to decide on the A7s3 with a different external recorder or FX3.
What's happening with your framerate? Thanks for the video, this is very helpful.
this is being recorded directly into quicktime via a camlink, Quicktime is known to drop frames while doing movie recording like this.
Hey Javier! Sorry for the rookie question: I’m not sure if I understand the whole functionality of the K3M… Is it main that is it an adapter to use XLR/phantom power mics with your Sony camera… Or does it also provide superior preamps and sound procesing?
Yes to all of those kind of. XLR inputs, Phantom Power, superior preamps, ultimately it saves you time by having the capability to record professional audio directly into the camera so you don’t need to use an external recorder.
Want it but my wallet says no to 599 haha
Hi Javier, I’ve been having an issue with my K3M on my A7S III. Might be a very simple error but I can’t seem to figure it out. When I record with my Rode Procaster plugged into either Input 1 or 2, when I play it back I can only hear the sound from the left speaker/headphone. No idea why. Any help would be most appreciated
Can input 3 handel line level input?
Can I connect my SM7B from the Rodecaster Pro into that Sony XLR-K3M and use the sound from the Rodecaster Pro into my Sony a7iii?
Yes you can! I tried to do this as well but I just got electrical noise on the signal, but definitely worth trying it before buying a splitter. It may have been how the electrical is setup in my workplace.
How crazy is that.
much better than rode vmp+
Hey there, would you sell your k3m extension cable? lmk!
Zoom h5 external, wouldn’t that be out of sync with video need post clapper board sync. However get this and vid and audio are perfecting in sync and saved on camera sd card as video and audio. Or am i missing something? Is two channels of recording the same as stereo line input though?
Yes two channels of recording is same as stereo if you use stereo input. This can do up to 4 on the a7siii. You can split the input to two mono if you use the xlr or do stereo. Depending on how far away from the camera you are a clapper would still be needed to have perfect sync.
Dear Javier, Do you have news on the compatibility of the K3M? Is Sony working on it?
Compatibility with what?
@@JavierMercedes Sorry for being so unspecific. I meant using 24bit recordings in editingsoftware. I use Davinci Resolve. Are the files still unusable/ unhearable? Will Sony tell us whether they have fixed te problem? Or do I have to contact Davinci?
Thanks! So with the a7iii it is only 2 seperate channel recording right? Or is it possible to use the mic input of the a7 iii when the k3m is on top?
Only two
Hi! now that you've been using this - can you tell me if this is actually recording separate 4 channels of audio on the physical video file (2 stereo tracks), or if it's simply mixing the 4 channels of audio on the K3M inputs down to 2 channels of audio (a traditional stereo file connected to the video file)? I have an A7Rii btw,. Thanks for your advice! It would be great if I could capture 4 separate audio signals.
4 separate channels paired to the one video file. Unfortunately you need the digital hot shoe mount on your Sony camera to access this. The A7Rii does not have this, it’s only analog. I think A7R4 and a7siii were the first camera in the alpha line to have the digital shoe mount.