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Americans perceptions of race are not universal. South Africa has a whole category of mixed race people called 'coloured' and Tyla is one of those. She is ethnically multiracial with Zulu, white and Mauritanian-Indian heritage. She does fit into the South African category of coloured like those ones in CapeTown whose ancestors were mixed raced. Trevor Noah on the other hand is simply biracial and he identifies as 'black' because his mother is a black African woman who raised him in a black African household. Technically, Trevor is more black than Tyla, both culturally and genetically. The lesson here is that Americans need to understand that that their definition of black is not universal. I am a black woman, from East Africa, with 100% indigenous African ancestry from several countries in that region. Mixed race people have the freedom to identify themselves as they see fit, I dont think it really matters elsewhere in the world like it does in the US.
what confuses me is Trevor Noah and Rege Jean Page are no different from her are from South African and they never said they are coloured in Interviews they identify as black, is some racist people in South Africa considered themself coloured or white to be above the blacks in South Africa is it suppose to be a hierarchy placement I mean we still know South Africa whites was one of the most racist people and still is in the 21st century so I wonder if some who are mixed with white grew up with some racist beliefs that they are better than blacks that's the vibe I get from her smfh.
@@josiejadexo what confuses me is Trevor Noah and Rege Jean Page are no different from her are from South African and they never said they are coloured in Interviews they identify as black, is some racist people in South Africa considered themself coloured or white to be above the blacks in South Africa is it suppose to be a hierarchy placement I mean we still know South Africa whites was one of the most racist people and still is in the 21st century so I wonder if some who are mixed with white grew up with some racist beliefs that they are better than blacks that's the vibe I get from her smfh.
the funny thing is her label sold her and her style to the black American community to try to break out and be successful and she uses the black South Africans Dances in her performances so is she also a Culture Vulture using the black South Africans Dances while not identifying as black she is not using any European style dancing in her performances just saying.
As a black South African I don’t see why this is an issue. Anywhere in the world Music is not about colour & race, it bring people of all backgrounds together regardless of colour or creed.
Tyla is of the African diaspora, which is also known as, Black. Just because she doesn't identify with the semantics of American political identification doesn't mean she's not of African-descent which is ultimately a black person and the semantics don't matter whatsoever. Tyla is bringing African culture to a global stage. All this dissection of her racial identity is asinine.
Race isn't real, it's one of the world's greatest lie and only made real by us buying into the concept and the media's insistence on it! ETHNICITY is what's real. CULTURE & ETHNICITY matters, it is what binds us beyond skin color, and other insignificant differences. ETHNICITY: the quality or fact of belonging to a population group or subgroup made up of people who share a common cultural background or descent.
Out of respect Tyla identifies as Black in America (which is the right thing to do). Only coloured in South Africa. If she never had to mention it she would not have, but with the internet these days being the way it is, it kept coming up in the comments and so it was latched onto as a controversial topic for gains, views and likes.
@josiejadexo that was a foolish statement she's not black she originally stated what she identify a and shes was correct BA need to stop forcing that on her to feel comfortable she's a SA colored girl she's 100% a poc but she is not like us
@@ahyashah3845 Sweetie - I hear you - but I do not think that we would like anyone to come into our country using the K word. Her statement - was out of respect. She is a classy lady.
Not offended at all. You have yo understand the concept of race outside America where the one drop rule isn't a thing, in South Africa mixed race people have distinct identity. Its a spill over from apartheid where there was a tiered race system. Its the same in neighbouring countries.
the funny thing is her label sold her and her style to the black American community to try to break out and be successful and she uses the black South Africans Dances in her performances so is she also a Culture Vulture using the black South Africans Dances while not identifying as black she is not using any European style dancing in her performances just saying.
Let me just say. I was trying to explain my son's ethnicity to a friend of mine and baby I was stumped!! His father and I are both mixed (b/w) my son looks white minus his hair he is 75% black but I completely understand why people that come from mixed race families just call themselves colored it gets really complicated really fast.
Look Miss. As an American, you are wholly unqualified for the ethnic classification course you are attempting to teach. Good video title though. Got my click
This whole thing has made grown adults seem silly and illiterate. Black Africans are Black. And Black Americans are African in heritage. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Obviously. She is mixed. Part Black. Part non-Black. Calling her "not Black" is as ridiculous as insisting that she called herself "only Black." Whoever is doing this needs to grow up. It sounds like middle-school talk.
I don’t know what everyone is going off about and being mad for. People call all black mixed people black anyways. Doesn’t matter if your mamma is white or your daddy is while as long as long as one of your parents is black you are automatically considered black. And I personally think that is ridiculous as stupid. There should be a term for mixed people, because they are not black. If they are as much black as they are the white or whatever other mixed parent is.
what confuses me is Trevor Noah and Rege Jean Page are no different from her are from South African and they never said they are coloured in Interviews they identify as black, is some racist people in South Africa considered themself coloured or white to be above the blacks in South Africa is it suppose to be a hierarchy placement I mean we still know South Africa whites was one of the most racist people and still is in the 21st century so I wonder if some who are mixed with white grew up with some racist beliefs that they are better than blacks that's the vibe I get from her smfh.
I 100% get what you’re saying! There’s another comment that explains it perfectly. Trevor Noah is black & white (bi racial) which is different from coloured ppl that are mixed with an abundance of things… however in American if you’re mixed race that’s it’s your just mixed race so I get what you’re saying. Obvi it’s much different there tho
Coloured people are multiracialy mixed not biracial That's why people like Trevor Noah who are first generation mixed are just biracial and not consider coloured
Those ppl in the pics are not her parents. Her father is African and her mother is mixed race, Black being one of the races. She is multi racial…and her parents look Afrikan just like her
Americans perceptions of race are not universal. South Africa has a whole category of mixed race people called 'coloured' and Tyla is one of those. She is ethnically multiracial with Zulu, white and Mauritanian-Indian heritage. She does fit into the South African category of coloured like those ones in CapeTown whose ancestors were mixed raced. Trevor Noah on the other hand is simply biracial and he identifies as 'black' because his mother is a black African woman who raised him in a black African household. Technically, Trevor is more black than Tyla, both culturally and genetically. The lesson here is that Americans need to understand that that their definition of black is not universal. I am a black woman, from East Africa, with 100% indigenous African ancestry from several countries in that region. Mixed race people have the freedom to identify themselves as they see fit, I dont think it really matters elsewhere in the world like it does in the US.
Wowwwwww!! Thank you for this!! Well said!! 🙌🏽🙌🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@@Azulakayes I couldn't agree more. Americans seem obsessed with race & the micromanagement of it.
what confuses me is Trevor Noah and Rege Jean Page are no different from her are from South African and they never said they are coloured in Interviews they identify as black, is some racist people in South Africa considered themself coloured or white to be above the blacks in South Africa is it suppose to be a hierarchy placement I mean we still know South Africa whites was one of the most racist people and still is in the 21st century so I wonder if some who are mixed with white grew up with some racist beliefs that they are better than blacks that's the vibe I get from her smfh.
@@josiejadexo what confuses me is Trevor Noah and Rege Jean Page are no different from her are from South African and they never said they are coloured in Interviews they identify as black, is some racist people in South Africa considered themself coloured or white to be above the blacks in South Africa is it suppose to be a hierarchy placement I mean we still know South Africa whites was one of the most racist people and still is in the 21st century so I wonder if some who are mixed with white grew up with some racist beliefs that they are better than blacks that's the vibe I get from her smfh.
the funny thing is her label sold her and her style to the black American community to try to break out and be successful and she uses the black South Africans Dances in her performances so is she also a Culture Vulture using the black South Africans Dances while not identifying as black she is not using any European style dancing in her performances just saying.
why you all dont leave Tyla alone.
I agree with Joe, she's not a black woman & i don't understand why everyone is so offended by this very obvious fact. It's ridiculous!
Joe is just like Tyra, coloured. When Joe would say he is black, black people in South Africa would be very offended
As a black South African I don’t see why this is an issue. Anywhere in the world Music is not about colour & race, it bring people of all backgrounds together regardless of colour or creed.
Tyla is of the African diaspora, which is also known as, Black. Just because she doesn't identify with the semantics of American political identification doesn't mean she's not of African-descent which is ultimately a black person and the semantics don't matter whatsoever. Tyla is bringing African culture to a global stage. All this dissection of her racial identity is asinine.
She's multi racial she ain't black
Who cares she’s still beautiful, sings and performs great!!! I will still be tuning in!!!
Race isn't real, it's one of the world's greatest lie and only made real by us buying into the concept and the media's insistence on it! ETHNICITY is what's real.
CULTURE & ETHNICITY matters, it is what binds us beyond skin color, and other insignificant differences.
ETHNICITY: the quality or fact of belonging to a population group or subgroup made up of people who share a common cultural background or descent.
@@dealsaua 💯
Out of respect Tyla identifies as Black in America (which is the right thing to do). Only coloured in South Africa. If she never had to mention it she would not have, but with the internet these days being the way it is, it kept coming up in the comments and so it was latched onto as a controversial topic for gains, views and likes.
She’s a black woman here! Coloured there! W/e works for her I guess
@@josiejadexo Yes - Coloured is only a term applicable in South Africa. Does not exist anywhere else in the world from what I know? Take care.
@josiejadexo that was a foolish statement she's not black she originally stated what she identify a and shes was correct BA need to stop forcing that on her to feel comfortable she's a SA colored girl she's 100% a poc but she is not like us
@@DeePie2024if she can't be call coloured then call her multiracial or a POC not black bc she's simple not that and that's okay..
@@ahyashah3845 Sweetie - I hear you - but I do not think that we would like anyone to come into our country using the K word. Her statement - was out of respect. She is a classy lady.
Not offended at all. You have yo understand the concept of race outside America where the one drop rule isn't a thing, in South Africa mixed race people have distinct identity. Its a spill over from apartheid where there was a tiered race system. Its the same in neighbouring countries.
the funny thing is her label sold her and her style to the black American community to try to break out and be successful and she uses the black South Africans Dances in her performances so is she also a Culture Vulture using the black South Africans Dances while not identifying as black she is not using any European style dancing in her performances just saying.
Bro it is not that serious
Let me just say. I was trying to explain my son's ethnicity to a friend of mine and baby I was stumped!! His father and I are both mixed (b/w) my son looks white minus his hair he is 75% black but I completely understand why people that come from mixed race families just call themselves colored it gets really complicated really fast.
Look Miss. As an American, you are wholly unqualified for the ethnic classification course you are attempting to teach.
Good video title though. Got my click
@@tpmedia3784 chilleeee I’m trying to entertain you not teach you 😭🤓 lol
This whole thing has made grown adults seem silly and illiterate. Black Africans are Black. And Black Americans are African in heritage. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Obviously. She is mixed. Part Black. Part non-Black. Calling her "not Black" is as ridiculous as insisting that she called herself "only Black." Whoever is doing this needs to grow up. It sounds like middle-school talk.
Wow this is crazy 😳
I don’t know what everyone is going off about and being mad for. People call all black mixed people black anyways. Doesn’t matter if your mamma is white or your daddy is while as long as long as one of your parents is black you are automatically considered black. And I personally think that is ridiculous as stupid. There should be a term for mixed people, because they are not black. If they are as much black as they are the white or whatever other mixed parent is.
She does not benefit our community we don't csre
what confuses me is Trevor Noah and Rege Jean Page are no different from her are from South African and they never said they are coloured in Interviews they identify as black, is some racist people in South Africa considered themself coloured or white to be above the blacks in South Africa is it suppose to be a hierarchy placement I mean we still know South Africa whites was one of the most racist people and still is in the 21st century so I wonder if some who are mixed with white grew up with some racist beliefs that they are better than blacks that's the vibe I get from her smfh.
I 100% get what you’re saying! There’s another comment that explains it perfectly. Trevor Noah is black & white (bi racial) which is different from coloured ppl that are mixed with an abundance of things… however in American if you’re mixed race that’s it’s your just mixed race so I get what you’re saying. Obvi it’s much different there tho
Coloured people are multiracialy mixed not biracial
That's why people like Trevor Noah who are first generation mixed are just biracial and not consider coloured
Trevor is first generation mixed
Where coloured people are multiracialy mixed for generations
Those ppl in the pics are not her parents. Her father is African and her mother is mixed race, Black being one of the races. She is multi racial…and her parents look Afrikan just like her
Her dad is South Asian Indian .
Those are deff her parents in the end at 2:41 lol you can look it up!! & yesss they look just like her they’re her parents 😂😂😂
@@josiejadexo You stated her father is African. He isn't.
@@mic187x2 when ?
@@josiejadexo My mistake. That was the 1st poster.
I didn’t like her for some reason. Now, I found my reason. 👎
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