Installing Debian Bookworm - The Ubuntu Slayer?
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Today we talk about the Debian Bookworm install. This video uses the Net Installer.
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Please start reading the text where you put in the root password. If you leave it empty then root is disabled and the first user will have sudo privileges
Thanks
LMDE Bookworm upgrade soon hopefully!
The live dvds provide the Calamares installer which is much easier (and faster) to install. They also add the user to sudo automatically.
The Arch fans would be here to say how old the packages are but they are too busy fixing their 7th broken dependency of the day.
Exactly why i left arch for good. Always getting broken.
Never understood the hype behind arch… and they all suggest installing arch to absolute newbies.
I remember reading comments about installing arch on grandma’s pc n friends pc…
@@stephenxs8354Just out of interest, how did it break for you specifically? I haven’t had a true breakage, aside from 1 where I effectively avoided all warnings for some reason over 6 years or so.
i'm using arch on virtualbox, did not found any problems.
If the next LMDE has the version 6 kernel and the pipewire setup from Bookworm, it might surpass regular Linux Mint.
god i hope so would not that be great. looking forward to lmde 6. i am running 5 at the moment and can't wait to see what's in store for Debian's future.currently running it in a VM and i can't find a fault with .thinking of running it on bare metal for a while. way to go Debian team.
It's just too bad the LMDE isn't an LTS because if it would be I would use that.
@@MnRProdMariolaur How much more LTS do you need with a Debian base?
@@bobbyfried7478 If it gets support for 5 years, it is true that I change every 3 years but if I feel like sticking with a distroy for 5 years I will stick with it.
2:42 Debian also does this for you. If you do not enter a root password, it adds the created user to sudo. It is literally written in that page but people do not read it properly
Its not very clear for a new user. Should have tick box
@@amitmatok2883 It is not highlighted but quite clear if you read what is written there - I was highlighting that point. We basically do not read
@@abhisekmukherjee Totally agree
So LMDE 6 will be released. Time to upgrade distro is at the gate.
Second video I see today about "entering root password" then mentioning the sudo issue... If you leave the root password blank, the user account is added to sudoers
I have been told that a few times. I think I will be redoing this video in a while, but I will say that most do not realize this, as I did not. We do not often have time to read the screens during installs, and this idea of sudo / root has been a bit lost. I will address this in the next video on adding the user to the sudo users.
Debian rocks
if you don't set a root password the user has automatic sudo rights.
I used to run earlier versions of Debian (with Gnome) years ago but switched to Ubuntu when UEFI Secure Boot came on scene. After watching your video, I was interested and checked that Debian plays nice with UEFI Secure Boot now. I imagine I'll try Debian 12 sometime later this year on one of my boxes.
ive just spent a few days poking windows 11 to play nice with MBR e.t.c so as to continue with my love of testing/messing/cloning with minimum hassles :)
Only wanted to see Windows 11 - never thought for a second id actually love it :)
Pick up a refurbished ThinkPad or Lenovo desktop. They're dirt cheap, play well with Linux, they're upgradable and fixable. I just bought a newer ThinkPad and my old one will probably get Debian soon. Dual booting has become a pain in the butt.
@@kattz753booting = not now ;) boots and backs up as it did before :) (theres a few nits,can get round em easy enough)
When I started my Linux journey back in the early to mid 2000s my first distribution was Debian and i remember the unholy heck that the had to go through in order to get any broad com based WiFi or wired NIC to function correctly and I can say that in the process of going through the process done correctly I learned one heck of a lot about how the underneath the hood configuration files and configuring use case specific blacklist and configuration files for allowing and blocking specific kernel modules.
I'd like to see guidance on setting up a dual boot system. Specifically, how to partition the disk in the Debian installer to divide the space between the existing OS and Debian.
To keep this series going I want to see Distrobox installed. I've already got Pop!_OS and Ubuntu replaced with this version of Debian. Who needs Ubuntu any more for a desktop? But I think a distrobox install could negate any need for VanillaOS or BlendOS as well.
Thank you Tomm, we Perpetual Linux newbies really really need your help with this. Although I’m moderately adept with Linux Mint I was completely flummoxed using Debian 12 on my virtual box. Where the hell is the power off button (hint - it’s buried)? Why are the icons on the floating dock so insanely large and can’t be made smaller? And the window control buttons (restore minimize maximize) what the heck...where are they. The capper was when the “ifconfig” command would not run out of the box as it appeared to not be installed. I used the sudo command and learned that I was not a member of the sudo group In spite of me installing the damn distro myself.. A Google search showed me how to add myself but that was only for earlier versions. I want to like this new version but me and a lot of people like me will need your help and handholding to get us going. Looking forward to your future videos on this. Why not make it a goal for upcoming videos to “set up“ Debian 12 such that the result is it has all the features of a full featured, including all the bells and whistles of the LEXUS-like Linux Mint experience ?
On the default gnome:
Power button is in the settings menu on the upper right corner.
I think you can decrease the size of the icons with the gnome tweaks, but I am not certain...that is the new "look" for gnome (this is why I don't like gnome!)
Again...Gnome...Debian has the Tweak Tools installed. Boot that application up and you can find your minimize, maximize buttons.
My next video will show you how to add the user to the sudo group (It should be the same as the old instructions)
ifconfig *should* be installed if you selected the extra services on install. If not, drop to su - root and enter the root password and install the package from there.
@@SwitchedtoLinux Many thanks for this helpful and detailed reply. I could find Power OFF only by making a search (and a second location when I stumbled on to it by clicking the Network (or speaker) on the top pane)l. NOT intuitive to click on the panel's network or speaker to Power Off a machine. Harbinger of things to come !?! At any rate - looking forward to your future videos on building out my personal "Dream" installation of Debian 12. Thanks again.
ifconfig has been replaced by the "ip" command in pretty much all distros.
You must disable root login during install and Debian will automatically add you to the sudoers group, or you can do so manually later.
the good side of installing debian using live CD (this time i use the default one, GNOME) is that, the basic user automatically included on sudo group. it sounds dangerous but you will have less hassle than not have one.
As a fairly new Linux user, Debian was one of the distros I installed and I think not having the main user in the sudo group and not knowing how to get it there was the reason I stopped using Debian. But I'd really like to start using it again.
I'm running it RIGHT NOW--- this is it--- and I LOVE IT. I ran SPARKY LINUX as my very FAVORITE for a LONG time--- and I know It is debian with kde on it.... so why this? Well- I installed it- and WOW- it FEELs rock solid--and things are SO smoothe!!!! It's FAST too-- zippy fast-- like Arch- but WAY BETTER. (and none of that "must have the latest and greatest every 5 minute hogwash)...AND it installs SO EASY-- just as easily as Mint or any of those!!!
HOW can I set up Anbox in a way to run ANDROID app on my DEBIAN 12? I got it on Sparky easily and it works great-- but something in the Debian 12 is a bit different and it won't work.. ALSO- I had to switch back to X11-- wayland stuff WILL NOT WORK on here for ME anyway-- maybe I did something wrong?? (I need the android app because of my home security camera system is android and I don't want to leave my phone on all the time.
debian netinstall doesn't work for me. live CD still usable tho... (using borrowed laptop. Ryzen 5)
Not to be too critical, but I think you should have prepared more before making this video. For example, to jump around deciding which DE to choose, only to land back on Gnome, was a waste. (I should think, that being such a Mint fan as you are, you would have chosen Cinnamon).
I found the Debian 12 install video by the DistroTube guy to be MUCH clearer and more informative. He also got it right about leaving the root password blank so the created user is added to sudo.
I have come back to your channel as you are doing a Debian series as I am looking for a distribution that is stable and lean for my Lenovo T430 or my Lenovo 73 mini, both have i5 and 8gb, Thanks Bob in the UK
Unintuitive website, outdated installer and bunch of bloat installed by default. I don't think that this is Ubuntu slayer or that should be recommend towards new users. Fedora is more approachable than this.
Hope you like Firefox, because sandboxed Chromium is full of unwanted redactions in the form of bright red squares. Unusable.
They only add non-free-firmware repo they didn't add non-free and contrib repo. I wasn't able to install nvidia-settings because I didn't aware these 2 still didn't add by default so don't fall for propaganda they did told they add firmware pool but they never imply to add non-free and contrib pool even once so don't get confuse and forgot these 2 if you need it.
The latest stable version of Gnome is 44.2. They both have the same general look and feel however, 44 just adds a few minor features.
Why people use Bloatbuntu instead of Debian surprises me. Bloatbuntu will soon be like Windows with all the telemetry and bloatware they ship now.
Using Fedora Nobara but there are some issues popping up at each update so thinking about trying Debian after vacation.
Hi sir, very nice video, I have ubuntu installed on another drive, but I want to install the debian 12 on the 2nd drive, so, do I need install the bootloader in this case ?
How is Debian being compared to Ubuntu? One is a base distro the other is based on debian.
Wow! This could certainly be the Ubuntu killer! It looks great! I'm looking forward to the rest of the series.
Fyi, when installer asks about root password it says: "If you leave this empty, the root account will be disabled and the system's initial user account will be given the power to become root using the "sudo" command." So that is the answer of how to install Debian with Sudo functionality out-of-the-box.
I think the problem is not with basing on Debian but the support for something like ROCm is only present on SLED, EL and Ubuntu
Ive been running Debian Sid since 2007 after i started linux with Debian Etch not too long after its release. Its always right at the brand new packages except for when Debian has to freeze testing.
Same, ive always run it on non crucial stuff and its been pretty good, better then testing
@@cjuk81 of course. I just stay away from running 'apt dist-upgrade'.
@@sephiroth7818 deffo
I ran Debian Sid/Unstable last DEC in an old Desktop PC I had a great experience I used a non-free ISO with Chris Titus Tech's Video, but my GPU died & I just got round to replacing it & added an SSD.
I reinstalled with the new ISO (due to not wanting to clone a HDD to an SSD) & the installation process is much smoother now. Updated the sources to unstable (Trixie) & installed the software I wanted easily all done. Debian has come such a long way now unless you're a beginner in Linux I don't see the point in using the forks.
My understanding is that youre still going to be stuck on an aging kernel.
Now that I’m done with risiOS 38, I decided to install Debian 12 on my main just for fun for a while before I need to get back on Fedora. I’m having an interesting experience…
that's a distro hopper typical to say
@@wendevv9706 I have been on Fedora/risiOS (my distro) for the last 2 and a half years. I just need a change lol
@@PizzaLovingNerd have you tried fedora xfce? Last week I planned to give it a try in real hardware on 7 yes old laptop with maximum of 8gb ram. Let me know your experience in fedora thanks!
Super simple installer. I prefer this normal installer than Calamares installer because it gives the option to choose your Desktop Environment, while calamares don't.
0:53 non-free and non-free-firmware packages
I still don't understand why some Distro's .... write their name into the Boot Menu while others just leave the name stock.... in other words - what the drive name is. ? I wish there were a graphical software tool that could accomplish this. I have Five individual drives.
It depends on the UEFI settings. You can specify a name for a boot instance.
The Ubuntu slayer for 6 months
I might now stick with Linux
LXQT would be good to try
Would be great if ZorinOS rebased on Debian instead of Ubuntu.
Or KDE Neon
My Dell laptop (an Inspiron 5000 with 8th gen I5 from 2017) started with Debian 10 when I got tired of abismal boot times with Windoze 10. Then it was Buster, now on with Bookworm and I love it. Now which desktop to use is a big problem! 🤔
Well not really, as long as it's not CDE! 🤣
There nothing in the store, even after adding suppositories. Just installing Chrome is a hassle.
On first boot, you will need to let it update the cache. It is much slower doing this in the GUI. Run an apt update to expedite that process.
What's the point of using Linux when you are going to use a spyware browser?
I got a raspberry pi 400 and intalled raspberry pi os latest version today. It is based on that version of debian bookwork. And so far I have managed to use it for printing, scanning docs, using libre office, gimp and right now I am watching this video list. However on the RPI Imager there is no option for vanilla Debian. Ubuntu is listed there though. Should I try with an x86 based PC instead?
I love Debian but i have almost always problems that its way behind Gnome version and i have issues with wine
Yeah, two ideas that I would like to see for videos are getting a fully set up Debian 12 stable post install video and a video to set up Debian 12 for gaming on Linux.
I'm not fond of the new Python3 restrictions. Took me more than an hour to enable they modules that I use in servers every day. The rest went smoothly enough.
What is the fascination with Linux installs? My main work machine took me about an hour to install and since then I've used it for work for over 5000 hours.
I think people just need to see it done enough times to realize it is easy, but most people who have purchased a computer with an OS on it can't always wrap their mind around installing a system.
Even though I installed Debian 12 on new virtual box machine my palms still get sweaty when I get the warning that the entire disk is going to be reformatted and I better damn well have my data backed up. Panic! What if there’s a screw up and my entire C Dr. is wiped! So far it’s never happened.
I have installed Debian 12 and it's great. I think it's the best Debian ever. It's much better than Ubuntu.
I would like to see them enabling the compositing window setting by default in debian 12 because it prevents the opaque sliver int he panel settings. Also they should allow the user to remove the proprietary drivers when the open source version becomes available.
i was thinking of maybe trying debian but the sha file and such didn't match so im staying where i am everything works just thinking with the older laptop might need to eventually swap to deb or something else.
My installation on virtualbox crashes when I start the installer, cannot open display: 0. Maybe bad download? I didn't check image hash.
Downloaded again, checksum is ok, still can't run installer in virtualbox running on asus laptop...
I feel left out. Debian Bookworm is very buggy on my HP computer. I've spent a Month trying to squash all the bugs. Now I'm so tired of it, I'm going to get rid of Debian.
Bookworm was just officially released this week? Are you running the finalized release or a pre-release?
@@SwitchedtoLinux It was a pre-release but today it got upgraded to stable. Apt notified me. The bugs I'm having was even present in Debian 11, and it effected MX Linux too.
I'm not sure what is going on, but it seems that my future comments on this video are being blocked or deleted.
It's running fairly well on my HP Elitebook, already 4 days in.
@@feelalivemusix7536 How does it with playing videos? Mine you can't play videos, they skip and speed up weird. In Firefox while watching youtube. MPV acts up, and so does VLC and Parole Media Player.
It takes time to install, ubuntu takes 5 minutes to install and you don't have to do so many steps.
And it pings corporate servers and locks you into a proprietary software distribution model.
@@SwitchedtoLinux Ubuntu feels like an Open Source Windows now.
I am so happy to see this! PLEASE DO BUDGIE! 🙂
I already have the footage recorded...just need to get that video out in the next week or so.
I share a dislike of snaps simply because I haven't had good luck with them on my hardware, yet flatpaks always work correctly. Don't know why. But even just focusing on snaps, I wonder why people think Debian would be an Ubuntu killer when Mint has also dropped snaps and is much more user-friendly than Debian? I say that as someone who's sincerely tried to enjoy Debian because I do like the idea of a pure start in a distro install, but to be honest a normal Mint installation has very little fluff I don't use/want/need, so it's not a big leap for me to take the more comfortable choice.
Every time I install Debian though there's a hundred moments of, "Oh, this extremely minor thing I need isn't in the base install."
Ubuntu's core is great...it's the vanilla version of the OS that sucks. Instead of abandoning it, I think people should start moving to Pop OS.
Ubuntu is great..at telemetry
@@feelalivemusix7536 Well there is a reason so many very popular distros are based on it.
Ubuntu and Debian have different use cases, both are great.
Ubuntu for example simplifies some things like including the lowlatency kernel in it's repositories or providing kernel version upgrades. It also brings the non-LTS releases to the table.
Debian allows installation on practically all the important Hardware Architectures, but goes slower update wise.
May I introduce you to Debian Sid?
Debian Sid and Testing's propose is to prepare for the next Stable release. Use them at your own risk.
I can see how people might feel the gap between Ubuntu LTS and Debian is getting smaller.
The only thing Ubuntu simplifies is corporates stealing your data.
Install it on bare metal with an Nvidia RTX 30+ series graphics card and tell us how 'great' it is.
I dare you.
With all the noise about using Nvidia on Linux around the internet, you should know going in that you could have issues. Pretty sure it's more of an Nvidia problem for not making drivers open source for so long.
Sorry, I do proper planning. That being said, the new nonfree-firmware option will clear up most of the Nvidia issues.
I did it with RTX3070 mobile and it works fine. Also did it with GTX965M and it is also working.
You have to install kernel headers befor installing nvidia driver.
"Ubuntu killer"??
Ubuntu IS Debian, ubuntu is based on debian wtf