Sometimes, being forced to eat humble pie is just the thing we all need. 2008 forced me back to riding a Honda XR125 for three years. The ability to get to where I needed to be at almost no cost enabled me to start over and get back to where I am today. No biker ever nodded at me, probably figured I was a delivery rider, and I weighed almost as much as the bike, so it probably looked rather awkward, but believe it or not, I wouldn't want to change a single thing of that experience, not even the time I had to ride home in a hail storm ensuring I was properly blue and purple through my rider's jacket the next day. It taught me that all you need to be happy is to end each day watching the sun go down with a beer in one hand and a loving wife in the other, the surroundings does not matter nearly as much as we think.
I got made redundant through the pandemic, sold my Mercedes and have been using a (admittedly Chinese) 125 as my daily transport and it’s the best thing I’ve done. Cost me 13.50 a month in petrol and 40 quid a month insurance which is about a 5th of what the Mercedes cost to run. The whole thing has given me a different insight into life. I see my wife and kids more, my new job is half the hours. Covid has probably done me a favour truth be told.
Yes give a 17 year old with no exprience a bike with almost no brakes, tiny tyres with no grip in the wet, and acceleration so pathetic they're just at the mercy of shit car drivers... genius idea. I had plenty of near misses and a couple slow speed slips (rain) in my 125 days. I have not had a single incident or near miss in the equal amount of time of having my cbr500r or sv650s. Beginners should start on 300cc bikes like the ninja 300. Anything smaller is idiotic for someone with no experience, which is most 125 riders.
The Suzuki GSX S125 is great bike. I completed over 5500 miles touring Scotland in the past 18 months. Engine is bullet proof. Not really anything negative to say. Throughly recommend this bike.
@@rhadetre You might have some power issues as it’s only a small engine, but this depends on the incline and hill, body mass of the rider and what you’re carrying on the bike. Fully loaded (top box, panniers, additional ruck sack on board, I still achieved motorway speeds on my road trips). It really was a fantastic bike. More recently I’ve regretted trading it in (but that’s another story). Good luck. 👍🏻🏍🧩
Thanks for this story, very interesting :) I am still debating between the gsxs or the Gsxr, I find the sport one more pleasant but is it really needed ? … the only issue that I could think of about the roadster is the wind, how does it handle windy conditions without the protection that the Gsxr has ?
@@quasars6365 there’s not that much protection on the gsx r (although obviously more than the gsx s - I modified mine into a mini adv bike, which included a screen from Puig (the modifications I made to my bike can be found in a video on my channel if you want more information)
I had one of these for over a year as a commuter - took it on highways and all. Some things I'd say about the bike in general * It is highway capable, the "safe top speed" is 100kph (for slightly hilly/windy days) * Actual top speed approx. 120kph on flat ground in good conditions * Bad weather (stormy, super windy etc) - 85kph - you probably won't be riding in that weather anyway * Engine has fantasic fuel economy, about 2.4L/100km * The Chassis is very good/stable and low-speed maneuvering is great (good filtering bike) It really was a fantastic bike, for a while I had this and its larger brother the GSX-S750 - I loved the 125 that much.
I've owned GSX S125 for 3 years. Done 9200 miles so far. It is a great bike to start as a learner. I bought it brand new with pre registration from local dealership. So far I never had any problems with this bike. Honestly I cant go wrong with this Suzuki brand as they are very reliable and it's built for long resistant commuting. I have upgraded the mods like phone hand bar, R&G tail tidy, tank pad, black widow exhaust, r&g crash bar, dashboard protector, Puig windshield and wheel rims. K&N air filter and oil filter combine with aftermath exhaust does helps better performance. Feeling a lots faster on acceleration and torques. Top speed I have done was 84mph! Also fuel consumption is really good especially If I travel long distances without having to fuel up often! Other than that is a nice light weight bike, smooth handing, very comfortable with riding position for long journey and it's fun for weekend trips. If someone looking into a learner bike, I highly recommend this machine 10/10 reliability 😁
I've one of these for commuting in London. Fantastic machine. Light, nimble, looks and sounds well, picks up speed well for a 125, faster off the lights than you're average 1.4l car. Does 100 mpg and cheap to service. I get lots of other bikers asking me about it and many don't believe it's a 125. I've had it for 3 years, run in all weather and it hasn't missed a beat.
Actually, you can go on the motorway on a 125cc, just not as a Learner. Under 50cc is not allowed. Also, be wary of riding with L plates when you’re a full licence holder. Only driving schools are exempt (just put a thin piece of black tape across it). Yes, I’m fun at parties 😂 Great video as always Andy, and good luck to Mrs F on her motorbike journey 👍🏻
Yes I think I did mention in the video that I thought me riding with L plates was technically a no no - the black tape adea is a good one! All the best...A
It's not actually illegal so you aren't breaking any laws it's just frowned upon, not that most cops will be too bothered especially when you say it is used by a learner
@@TheMissendenFlyer I use the M11, 6 days a week on a Yamaha MT-125, and I can tell you that I am breaking NO laws as I passed my full license in 1987, and i have no problem keeping up with steel box drivers. It is a normal 15bhp bike, and it's all about thinking ahead, never had a problem in 4 yrs👍👍
@@TheMissendenFlyer It is not an offence to display an L if you are qualified. The Highway code say should be covered rather than must. When it is a law they show *MUST* or *MUST NOT* in bold text. I don't get invited to parties.
I returned to riding last year and got a Suzuki GSX S125 as my first bike once I completed my CBT, great little bike. I have sinced passed my test and have a Suzuki SV650.
More reviews of budget/introductory bikes are needed to attract new riders and retain cash strapped ones. Fun, thrift and congestion busting are just three of a motorcycle's attributes but the latter two in particular should be promoted more. Well done on the review.
You are on the money…. 125’s can be a hoot. I miss my Grom… (MSX), leave the big bike in the garage, pop out for milk or a newspaper and the agility of the 125 cannot be beaten. More people should have a 125 in their lives.
I'm almost with you , but maybe I'm a bit overweight and need a bit more power, I wouldn't mind a 20 BHP Royal Enfield Meteor as a town bike. Also it costs less than quite a few of the "posher" 125s from the Japanese big four. I remember my CB125R needing to be in exactly the right gear, and actually being a bit harder to ride than my Speed Twin.
If they made a 250cc version of the Grom, I'd be all over it. 125 is just slightly too low power for me because I couldn't ride it to work 30 minutes on twisty B roads.
My Girlfriend learned on one of these. Did 1200 miles on it, before her test and learned to service the chain and change the oil etc. She is 5 ft so has the same issue as Mrs Flyer. Sat her on a lot of bikes afterwards and she ended up with a Ducati Monster 821 stealth much to my surprise. Great bike. Has an urban mode that knocks the bhp down to about 75 then she progressed to the full power modes. Worth doing a round up on bikes for smaller riders. There is precious little out there on it
@@TheMissendenFlyer its 780 with the low seat and narrow, so very do-able. She can also fit on the Triumph Street Twin, Ducati Scrambler, my Zero SRS (which she loves) and the Honda Rebel which she didn't like despite it being a perfect bike on paper for her, She also could get on the CBr500s and the Suzuki SV650 with low seat. She can technically get on my BMW f750 GS with the low seat but she doesn't feel at all confident on it. I put mid controls on my Indian Scout and she can now ride that too. I think that's pretty much it though without lowering links etc.
125 is perfect for a learner. Great bike. Light, easily handled, well built and 120mpg... cheap to run. Excellent review Andy and best of luck to Mrs Flyer on her test. Get plenty of miles under the belt. Mid range adventure bike for the next purchase. Something like the V Strom 650. BTW you can take a 125 cc on the motorway
If you are riding a 125cc motorcycle with a CBT license (Compulsory Basic Training) you cannot ride on the motorway as you do not have a full motorcycle license, it is illegal for a rider to ride on the motorway with L plates and an incorrect license . Dual carriageway is fine.
My husband bought me one last year and I love it. With a 27" inside leg, I've struggled to find a bike that I could comfortably touch the ground. The dealership lowered the suspension, giving me another inch and new boots with a slight heel. There's no stopping me now!
@@TheMissendenFlyer it looks like the invoice says Lust racing lowering kit. It's a Suzuki part. We do have the original part they replaced if you'd like a photo.
Great choice for a 125cc my wife had one for 8 months for road experience, nice low “feet flat” seat height. Easy ride. Passed her test and progressed to a Street Twin.
I sold one of these just over a year ago. Probably about the best 125 for performance, and stays in good nick with a bit of cleaning and maintenance - easy to sell second-hand.
Lovely looking little bike, not quite there myself but I would suggest not only is it a learner and commuter motorcycle, but in ones dotage when big heavy bikes are a real struggle to manoeuvre something like this could keep you enjoying glorious motorcycling into old age maybe...
Great starter bike. Got my good lady wife one to learn on, she loved it, took it out in all weathers which is more than I do ! Would recommend a screen, I put on an Ermax one. Helped with the wind flow and there’s enough room between it and the dash for a cloth to dry the seat if necessary or to wipe off petrol when you spill it whilst filling up. Hope Mrs Flyer enjoys riding it.
I bought one recently. The user manual recommends not riding over 5500 rpm for the first 800km. But it means ur limited to about 70kmph. After the run in period it’s great!
Great review as always. My daughter's husband has one of these (which I have ridden a couple of times) a nippy little bike well suited for most roads except motorways & some fast dual carriage ways. Very obvious is the (usual) missing radiator grille, a thing that I fit pretty much straight away on a new bike. I mean, you wouldn't have your car radiator stuck out front with no protection, but bike manufacturers seem to think it's fine...
Kept my XVS125 when I passed my test a couple of years ago, as I didn't need the money. It's an ideal commuter bike in town - 75+ mpg, £20 tax and £75 insurance. Fun to ride, and time to enjoy the scenery. What's not to like?
My son brought a Chinese sinnis 125 and really wishes he hadn’t, nothing but trouble, there’s is no comparison with regards to quality. He ended part exchanging it for the GSX 125 and it’s been faultless great little bike a good choice for Mrs Flyer.
That looks like a great first bike or as an around-town commuter. You can have a million bucks worth of fun on that thing!! Good job Suzuki and TMF as well! Best of luck to Mrs. TMF on her journey to aquire her license. Cheers!
I think it's sad that kids today will never get to experience the fantastic Aprilia RS or Cagiva Mito 125s, both over 30 bhp and 110kg wet, both would destroy todays 250s never mind 125s.
Agreed. My learner bike as a 17 year old was a TZR125. I had the power valve servo, but most people didn't bother and just turned them to the high rev setting. Could knock on the door of 100 mph. Today's 4 stroke 125s are miserable in comparison.
18 years old here, thinking of getting my driving license but leaning a little more over to bikes rather than cars, might make a purchase on this bike to start 👍🏼 helpful video.
Ah I have another question as a novice to the bike world. The manual says I need to run in the gsxs125 for 600 miles keeping the revs around 5500-6000... How important is this .... I'm being careful as don't want to wreck the bike but I'm getting eager to explore the rev range 😉
Nice review. I like a lot of the smaller sub 600cc bikes, especially as the bigger ones get more & more powerful (& heavier) & middleweights approach a 1000cc (!?!). This seems like a really decent little offering. Will be interested to see how it fairs long term. I bet a 250-400cc version would be fun.
Great video. Thanks for doing a 125 review. I am looking for a 125 as my daughter is currently taking her A1 license. She is training on this model as that's what the drive academy provides. She really likes it and this video confirmed that this is probably the best choice. It very good value also compared to the options from the other big manufacturers. I look forward to driving it myself.
Nice to see you reviewing small capacity machines and hopefully doing your bit to encourage a few youngsters to the joys of motorcycling. I do wonder who is going to be riding in 10-20 years time, as whenever I seem to see a group of large capacity bikes pull up, the riders all seem to remove their helmets to reveal a group in their fifties and sixties. Nothing wrong with that (I'm in that age range myself), but it would be good to see a few younger riders to carry the torch. I was going to mention your 125/motorway remark, but I see you've already been picked up on it! Great review.
Awesome review! I live in Bermuda and 2 weeks ago bought a blue GSX S125. Absolutely love it, although I can't legally open it up as it were, but none the less a really good quality fun bike.
That was another smashing review. I think you described the soul of the bike very well. I hope Mrs. Flyer enjoys her rides out it as much as you do. Lastly, when your boots come up for replacement, may I suggest you get a pair of Falco “Aviator” boots. Quick donning, ankle protectors and very comfortable.
This was the first bike I wanted to buy when I was learning to ride, especially when it came out in the Suzuki metallic blue paint job. I chose a scooter in the end but wouldn't mind getting one of these as a second bike. Looks like fun. Thanks so much for the review. 😀👍
Great review. I had a Sinnis Terrain 125 to learn the craft, partly down to your positive review. It was great, but what you say about build quality is absolutely right. When I bought my Honda I noticed immediately how much better built it is. The Sinnis did the job, but things like the switchgear felt flimsy in comparison. As a bigger chap, I don’t miss the little single pot struggling/screaming on the hills!
You can’t really go wrong with a Suzuki I have owned a few & never had one break down on me in 50 years of riding .Some of the small capacity Suzuki’s are now made in China as are other Japanese makes .They are built to a higher spec than the average budget Chinese bikes with higher price point components .They are also subject to a more consistent quality control .I would have no hesitation purchasing a Suzuki built in China. The only thing I don’t like on the bike is the high perched pillion seat ,but I doubt it matters as 125 ‘s rarely get used 2 up .The only thing I would add is a modern shaped fly screen to deflect the wind blast ..The price is about right taking into account the EURO 5 spec which has added to all makes .All in all I think it will appeal to young learners & maybe some older experienced riders looking for a lighter bike .Nice one Mr Flyer got to be worth a 👍
I owned the 150cc version, and I'm in love with it, the other brand with lighter rider still couldn't keep up with me, 🤣 (with the displacement). It's light, it's fast, and nimble, and thing that I love the most it's the handling I'm 100kg, and turns without bouncing
What an honor seeing a review about my little bike 😁😁 I love it! I'm sure Mrs Flyer will love it too.. it will definitely look better after she'll pass her full license and take off the L plates 😜
for me personally, my 125 experience was vital, helped me learn the road craft, an idiot pulled out on me and with no ABS and very thing tyres i had no chance, after that day i wanted to get my full licence so i can get a bike with better electronics and bigger tyres and so on.
Great learner bike , light as a feather giving the new rider experience. Be a good commuter too. Thanks for another great review Andy. Much appreciated.
I would highly recommend to any rider who is seriously considering a second (or more) bike, to invest in a 125. Hilarious fun, thrash them without too much concern, and cheap as chips to run...and trust me, they're nothing like the 125 you rode in the 1970/80/90's....
Great video, and I am pleased Mrs Flyer is leaning to ride. I am trying to do the same but in this post lockdown time and backlogs I cannot believe how slow it is. Did CBT beginning of May and only managed to get one DA lesson since, so decided to buy a 125 to practice on to find it almost impossible to get one. So no lessons booked and no bikes to buy. In the mean time I am frustratingly enjoying your videos. 😀😀
Cracking little review this, I hope the wife enjoys many miles on it! Great to see such a well specced little bike too, which brings me back to your pet hate with bigger more expensive bikes not having one in this day and age! 😂
I'm very glad that Mrs Flyer is ready to ride! The family that rides together stays together. She may even get to be as good a rider as you...or even better than you! LOL
I have the 2018 gsxr version and its a really nice and well made bike. For a 125cc it goes pretty good and its very economic. And believe it or not I'll get more compliments when im on it than my 2020 Gsxr 1000!!
I have a KSR 125 (Austrian) for 7 years and agree that 125’s are great fun. I use mine mostly as a town hack and get 100mpg. It makes a useful stablemate to my Honda cb500fa which I tour with. At 79 yes old I still enjoy riding both bikes and have owned many bikes in 63 years on and off road. P.S. I once beat Barry Sheene at Brands Hatch!!!!! He slid off and I didn’t. My only claim to fame.. Regards JB
Very good review for what seems to be another really good 125 from Suzuki. I think it will hold its value very well; the market for lightly used bikes of that quality, seat height and engine size is really strong anyway, and that has the looks as well.
I learned to ride on a Honda 125 XLback in the 80s. This vid brought back a memory or two. Like getting caught by the police riding it across a golf course! If I had the 200 I’d a got away! 😉They are fun!!⛳️🏍💨💨💨💨💨
Wise choice of naked style learner bike. Yes the sports bike style are nice looking but wind protection isn't super important on a machine that barely makes 70 mph. That upright riding position and wider bars makes doing CBT and bike tests cone slalom sooooo much easier. You don't really want all the expensive plastic on a bike that stands a good chance of having a lie down. It's a transition bike for most anyway. The Japanese bikes are hard to justify when you can pick up a band new Chinese one for way less than a 2nd hand Japanese one though. You can get the Lexmoto LXR in black with gold wheels for £2800. Shame it's got all my negative points about learner 125s.
Yes I don't know much about the Lexmoto, I know they are popular. What I will say is that the Suzuki feels like a premium bit of kit - build quality is excellent.
@@TheMissendenFlyerDon't try and endurance race it if you weigh more than the average teenager on the standard wheels. Check with 44Teeth on that. I was rather shocked with their result. Your Suzuki would be my 2nd choice of 125. Light weight and close to max allowable bhp. Reliable. Naked bike styling and ergos for easy riding. It's hard to justify though when it's £4000+ and a well specced Chinese bike is £3000-. The Japanese are meeting their nemesis like the European bike industry did in the 70s. My first choice for a learner bike would be an off-road trail bike as you can learn a whole lot about bike handling riding off-road and power isn't a major part of the experience.
Did my test on one off these now upgraded to the gsx s750 iam 46 had to start somewhere lol had my 125 for a year brilliant little bike !!! Once she’s run in mine would reach 73 mph
My SUZUKI Inazuma 250 (one of the first into the country, several years ago) was " Chinese ". The build quality was superb and I toured from the South Coast to 'up North' and it didn't miss a bit. The only way I knew it was "Chinese" was by a small plate on the frame that stated "China" and the name of the factory. As a little footnote, it might worth checking your SUZUKI frame for an OEM plate stating..,,,'Changzhou Haojue Suzuki Motorcycle Co., Ltd. (China)'.
@@TheMissendenFlyer .....Interesting. The point that you repeatedly made was that the anything "Chinese" was sub-standard ("finish") compared to a named brand eg: SUZUKI. So, the intimation was definitely there. I am still intrigued to know what the manufacturing name plate says on your SUZUKI. By the way, the "monkeys" do seem to care.....
Hi Andy, great review as always 👍. What would be interesting if you compared your Suzuki with 1 of the best Chinese bikes, the Keeway RKF 125. I just got mine and its a quality piece of kit.
Thanks Mr Flyer, what a lovely bike! In my day the best I could find was the Honda CB125 - Those were the days, but time moves on and now we're spoiled for choice. I think the Suzuki (Japanese et al) quality does show but the Chinese bikes seem to be closing the gap? I almost wish I was starting out all over again - almost lol. :>)
Can you do a review of the new Honda CB125F with the claimed 500 mile range or 800km. Will it really do them sorts of miles? No one has done a review of it in depth, cheers
Softie ! I am 6’2” and 15 stone and me and a mate used to ride 2 up on a a 2 stroke Yamaha 100 cc up and down the M5 in the early 80s to get to roofing jobs. All through the winter carrying our tools in a bucket. Back in the day when men were men and women looked like women ! True story though small bikes are great.
I love a 125! Had a cg as a cheap runabout once and rode it flat out pretty much everywhere! Down the back lanes most of my mates couldn't catch me! Motorways were interesting to say the least!
Not a big seller in Australia most new riders here are looking at LAMS rated bikes and you can get on bikes like a Yami MT07 restricted , our northern neighbours in ASIA would be the market for this bike where you can fit a family of four and your groceries all on these great little bikes, horses for courses as they say.
Looks a great bike, nice review. I nearly got one a few weeks ago but ended up getting the new very retro looking Yamaha XSR 125. (I'm an Oldie returning to biking after many years and have moved to Germany from the UK) They have a passion for moving speed cameras about here weekly in the Saarland so thought I would progress slowly second time around lol! The XSR is a great little bike as well.....maybe you will be doing a review on that as well in the future....take care....
Great review. This is probably the one my wife should have got! Her Honda has an 816mm seat height and she is 5’ 2” so on her toes even in the Daytona boots. How tall is Mrs Flyer out of interest?
Looks like a great little starter bike , Loved suzuki had 8 over the years only reason I don't have one now is I like panniers, the only Japanese that suits me is the SX Kawasaki absolutely love it ,
Love the Vids, hope Mrs Flyer is enjoying the 125. Quick query .....I am looking at purchasing some of them oxford approved Jean's......the sizing on the site are they true to size.....ie uk32 = 32 waist? Cheers.
Hi 😊 I’m thinking about buying this bike as I’m a learner and I was wondering if you were still going to do the 1 year update to see how the bike has been doing. Ps love your channel!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer no need for apologies dude I wasn't trying to be a smart arse & had I have read the comments I would've seen people had already pointed it out.
Sometimes, being forced to eat humble pie is just the thing we all need. 2008 forced me back to riding a Honda XR125 for three years. The ability to get to where I needed to be at almost no cost enabled me to start over and get back to where I am today. No biker ever nodded at me, probably figured I was a delivery rider, and I weighed almost as much as the bike, so it probably looked rather awkward, but believe it or not, I wouldn't want to change a single thing of that experience, not even the time I had to ride home in a hail storm ensuring I was properly blue and purple through my rider's jacket the next day. It taught me that all you need to be happy is to end each day watching the sun go down with a beer in one hand and a loving wife in the other, the surroundings does not matter nearly as much as we think.
I got made redundant through the pandemic, sold my Mercedes and have been using a (admittedly Chinese) 125 as my daily transport and it’s the best thing I’ve done. Cost me 13.50 a month in petrol and 40 quid a month insurance which is about a 5th of what the Mercedes cost to run.
The whole thing has given me a different insight into life. I see my wife and kids more, my new job is half the hours. Covid has probably done me a favour truth be told.
Yes give a 17 year old with no exprience a bike with almost no brakes, tiny tyres with no grip in the wet, and acceleration so pathetic they're just at the mercy of shit car drivers... genius idea. I had plenty of near misses and a couple slow speed slips (rain) in my 125 days. I have not had a single incident or near miss in the equal amount of time of having my cbr500r or sv650s. Beginners should start on 300cc bikes like the ninja 300. Anything smaller is idiotic for someone with no experience, which is most 125 riders.
@@masterlukestynes What 125cc bike were you riding...😂
You didn't pass me going in the other direction. I nod at everyone on 2 wheels, even the paperboy...😂
@@masterlukestynes are you that stupid or are you acting?
The Suzuki GSX S125 is great bike. I completed over 5500 miles touring Scotland in the past 18 months. Engine is bullet proof. Not really anything negative to say. Throughly recommend this bike.
How was it going up inclines or hills? Will it struggle? I’m new to motorcycles and looking for a starter bike.
@@rhadetre You might have some power issues as it’s only a small engine, but this depends on the incline and hill, body mass of the rider and what you’re carrying on the bike. Fully loaded (top box, panniers, additional ruck sack on board, I still achieved motorway speeds on my road trips). It really was a fantastic bike. More recently I’ve regretted trading it in (but that’s another story). Good luck. 👍🏻🏍🧩
Thanks for this story, very interesting :) I am still debating between the gsxs or the Gsxr, I find the sport one more pleasant but is it really needed ? … the only issue that I could think of about the roadster is the wind, how does it handle windy conditions without the protection that the Gsxr has ?
@@quasars6365 there’s not that much protection on the gsx r (although obviously more than the gsx s - I modified mine into a mini adv bike, which included a screen from Puig (the modifications I made to my bike can be found in a video on my channel if you want more information)
I had one of these for over a year as a commuter - took it on highways and all.
Some things I'd say about the bike in general
* It is highway capable, the "safe top speed" is 100kph (for slightly hilly/windy days)
* Actual top speed approx. 120kph on flat ground in good conditions
* Bad weather (stormy, super windy etc) - 85kph - you probably won't be riding in that weather anyway
* Engine has fantasic fuel economy, about 2.4L/100km
* The Chassis is very good/stable and low-speed maneuvering is great (good filtering bike)
It really was a fantastic bike, for a while I had this and its larger brother the GSX-S750 - I loved the 125 that much.
I've owned GSX S125 for 3 years. Done 9200 miles so far. It is a great bike to start as a learner. I bought it brand new with pre registration from local dealership. So far I never had any problems with this bike. Honestly I cant go wrong with this Suzuki brand as they are very reliable and it's built for long resistant commuting. I have upgraded the mods like phone hand bar, R&G tail tidy, tank pad, black widow exhaust, r&g crash bar, dashboard protector, Puig windshield and wheel rims. K&N air filter and oil filter combine with aftermath exhaust does helps better performance. Feeling a lots faster on acceleration and torques. Top speed I have done was 84mph! Also fuel consumption is really good especially If I travel long distances without having to fuel up often! Other than that is a nice light weight bike, smooth handing, very comfortable with riding position for long journey and it's fun for weekend trips. If someone looking into a learner bike, I highly recommend this machine 10/10 reliability 😁
Yes I agree - we still have this bike and are loving it!
I've one of these for commuting in London. Fantastic machine. Light, nimble, looks and sounds well, picks up speed well for a 125, faster off the lights than you're average 1.4l car. Does 100 mpg and cheap to service. I get lots of other bikers asking me about it and many don't believe it's a 125. I've had it for 3 years, run in all weather and it hasn't missed a beat.
Good to hear!
Actually, you can go on the motorway on a 125cc, just not as a Learner.
Under 50cc is not allowed. Also, be wary of riding with L plates when you’re a full licence holder. Only driving schools are exempt (just put a thin piece of black tape across it).
Yes, I’m fun at parties 😂
Great video as always Andy, and good luck to Mrs F on her motorbike journey 👍🏻
Yes I think I did mention in the video that I thought me riding with L plates was technically a no no - the black tape adea is a good one! All the best...A
It's not actually illegal so you aren't breaking any laws it's just frowned upon, not that most cops will be too bothered especially when you say it is used by a learner
@@TheMissendenFlyer I use the M11, 6 days a week on a Yamaha MT-125, and I can tell you that I am breaking NO laws as I passed my full license in 1987, and i have no problem keeping up with steel box drivers. It is a normal 15bhp bike, and it's all about thinking ahead, never had a problem in 4 yrs👍👍
@@TheMissendenFlyer It is not an offence to display an L if you are qualified. The Highway code say should be covered rather than must. When it is a law they show *MUST* or *MUST NOT* in bold text. I don't get invited to parties.
Even dual carriageways were a bit hairy on L-plates before I got my Cat A license. Avoid at all costs ha
I returned to riding last year and got a Suzuki GSX S125 as my first bike once I completed my CBT, great little bike. I have sinced passed my test and have a Suzuki SV650.
More reviews of budget/introductory bikes are needed to attract new riders and retain cash strapped ones.
Fun, thrift and congestion busting are just three of a motorcycle's attributes but the latter two in particular should be promoted more.
Well done on the review.
You are on the money…. 125’s can be a hoot. I miss my Grom… (MSX), leave the big bike in the garage, pop out for milk or a newspaper and the agility of the 125 cannot be beaten. More people should have a 125 in their lives.
Absolutely I loved my Grom as a second bike, just a fun and easy way to do trips into town and the shops on
I'm almost with you , but maybe I'm a bit overweight and need a bit more power, I wouldn't mind a 20 BHP Royal Enfield Meteor as a town bike. Also it costs less than quite a few of the "posher" 125s from the Japanese big four.
I remember my CB125R needing to be in exactly the right gear, and actually being a bit harder to ride than my Speed Twin.
If they made a 250cc version of the Grom, I'd be all over it. 125 is just slightly too low power for me because I couldn't ride it to work 30 minutes on twisty B roads.
Riding my ts150 up a very steep twisty up hill, lent right over, throttle pinned with a big grin on. Small bikes not just for learners init 😁.
Very very true.....
My Girlfriend learned on one of these. Did 1200 miles on it, before her test and learned to service the chain and change the oil etc. She is 5 ft so has the same issue as Mrs Flyer. Sat her on a lot of bikes afterwards and she ended up with a Ducati Monster 821 stealth much to my surprise. Great bike. Has an urban mode that knocks the bhp down to about 75 then she progressed to the full power modes.
Worth doing a round up on bikes for smaller riders. There is precious little out there on it
Yes - precious few bikes too! So is the Monster OK for her height wise?
@@TheMissendenFlyer its 780 with the low seat and narrow, so very do-able. She can also fit on the Triumph Street Twin, Ducati Scrambler, my Zero SRS (which she loves) and the Honda Rebel which she didn't like despite it being a perfect bike on paper for her, She also could get on the CBr500s and the Suzuki SV650 with low seat. She can technically get on my BMW f750 GS with the low seat but she doesn't feel at all confident on it. I put mid controls on my Indian Scout and she can now ride that too. I think that's pretty much it though without lowering links etc.
125 is perfect for a learner. Great bike. Light, easily handled, well built and 120mpg... cheap to run. Excellent review Andy and best of luck to Mrs Flyer on her test. Get plenty of miles under the belt. Mid range adventure bike for the next purchase. Something like the V Strom 650. BTW you can take a 125 cc on the motorway
If you are riding a 125cc motorcycle with a CBT license (Compulsory Basic Training) you cannot ride on the motorway as you do not have a full motorcycle license, it is illegal for a rider to ride on the motorway with L plates and an incorrect license . Dual carriageway is fine.
and finally to Mrs Flyer, hope you enjoy it, ride safe, and wish you well to ride it !
Andy, we all miss your famous“Hey Kids” greeting! One of the small, yet simple joys us long time subscribers enjoyed! #BringItBack
My husband bought me one last year and I love it. With a 27" inside leg, I've struggled to find a bike that I could comfortably touch the ground. The dealership lowered the suspension, giving me another inch and new boots with a slight heel. There's no stopping me now!
Nice one! Do you know how the dealer lowered it? Was it a mod or a new dog bone linkage?
@@TheMissendenFlyer it looks like the invoice says Lust racing lowering kit. It's a Suzuki part.
We do have the original part they replaced if you'd like a photo.
Ooh no I’m familiar with Lust products - I’ll look em up - thanks…
Great choice for a 125cc my wife had one for 8 months for road experience, nice low “feet flat” seat height. Easy ride. Passed her test and progressed to a Street Twin.
I sold one of these just over a year ago. Probably about the best 125 for performance, and stays in good nick with a bit of cleaning and maintenance - easy to sell second-hand.
Made me think of my first bike back in 1983 a Suzuki GS 125, it had 12 bhp, drum brakes and wire wheels with a Katana style tank, fond memories.
Lovely looking little bike, not quite there myself but I would suggest not only is it a learner and commuter motorcycle, but in ones dotage when big heavy bikes are a real struggle to manoeuvre something like this could keep you enjoying glorious motorcycling into old age maybe...
Totally agree Stephen!
Great starter bike. Got my good lady wife one to learn on, she loved it, took it out in all weathers which is more than I do !
Would recommend a screen, I put on an Ermax one. Helped with the wind flow and there’s enough room between it and the dash for a cloth to dry the seat if necessary or to wipe off petrol when you spill it whilst filling up.
Hope Mrs Flyer enjoys riding it.
So far so good Stuart!
Cracking first review, hope Mrs F gets on well with it. As a Sunday morning plodder I doubt there's anything I do that this bike couldn't do.
Good choice, I had a.Suzuki 125 in 1977 when the wife’s car quit. Rode it year round from Camberley to Heathrow on my commute 😎🇨🇦
I bought one recently. The user manual recommends not riding over 5500 rpm for the first 800km. But it means ur limited to about 70kmph. After the run in period it’s great!
Great bikes aren’t they!
Glorious! I hope Carole enjoys this bike. Please keep us posted on her progress.
Will do!
Great review as always. My daughter's husband has one of these (which I have ridden a couple of times) a nippy little bike well suited for most roads except motorways & some fast dual carriage ways. Very obvious is the (usual) missing radiator grille, a thing that I fit pretty much straight away on a new bike. I mean, you wouldn't have your car radiator stuck out front with no protection, but bike manufacturers seem to think it's fine...
You read my mind I was legit just looking at these and then I get the notif for your video
Kept my XVS125 when I passed my test a couple of years ago, as I didn't need the money. It's an ideal commuter bike in town - 75+ mpg, £20 tax and £75 insurance. Fun to ride, and time to enjoy the scenery. What's not to like?
My son brought a Chinese sinnis 125 and really wishes he hadn’t, nothing but trouble, there’s is no comparison with regards to quality. He ended part exchanging it for the GSX 125 and it’s been faultless great little bike a good choice for Mrs Flyer.
I had a long term sinnis 125 once and ran it through winter, I had no issues with it - that said, I agree, the Suzuki oozes quality in comparison....
Mrs. Flyer will be styling on that bike. It looks really good. Perfect learner bike.
My Duke 390 has the same one touch start. Very satisfying indeed
Isn't it just - small things.....
That looks like a great first bike or as an around-town commuter. You can have a million bucks worth of fun on that thing!! Good job Suzuki and TMF as well! Best of luck to Mrs. TMF on her journey to aquire her license. Cheers!
Now I've seen this bike, I'm sure we saw her out a while back with her guardian angel following? Well done Carole for giving it a go. Super impressed.
Could well have done!
I think it's sad that kids today will never get to experience the fantastic Aprilia RS or Cagiva Mito 125s, both over 30 bhp and 110kg wet, both would destroy todays 250s never mind 125s.
My 2nd bike was the Cagiva Mito 125, red and in awesome condition. Such a fun bike!! Many good memories..
First bike was an April rs125. It would regularly destroy Suzuki bandits and the like from that time on my ride home from work.
Im pretty sure todays kids don't want to spend hours fixing up those bikes. they're fun but too much hassle
Agreed. My learner bike as a 17 year old was a TZR125. I had the power valve servo, but most people didn't bother and just turned them to the high rev setting. Could knock on the door of 100 mph. Today's 4 stroke 125s are miserable in comparison.
18 years old here, thinking of getting my driving license but leaning a little more over to bikes rather than cars, might make a purchase on this bike to start 👍🏼 helpful video.
Best of luck! Riding makes you a better driver….
TMF... I'm an older lad (40) and I only a couple of months ago did my CBT and I in fact bought this bike .. I'm loving it...
Nice one! (You're a kid to me - I'm 53)
Ah I have another question as a novice to the bike world. The manual says I need to run in the gsxs125 for 600 miles keeping the revs around 5500-6000... How important is this .... I'm being careful as don't want to wreck the bike but I'm getting eager to explore the rev range 😉
Nice review. I like a lot of the smaller sub 600cc bikes, especially as the bigger ones get more & more powerful (& heavier) & middleweights approach a 1000cc (!?!). This seems like a really decent little offering. Will be interested to see how it fairs long term. I bet a 250-400cc version would be fun.
Great video. Thanks for doing a 125 review. I am looking for a 125 as my daughter is currently taking her A1 license. She is training on this model as that's what the drive academy provides. She really likes it and this video confirmed that this is probably the best choice. It very good value also compared to the options from the other big manufacturers. I look forward to driving it myself.
Nice to see you reviewing small capacity machines and hopefully doing your bit to encourage a few youngsters to the joys of motorcycling. I do wonder who is going to be riding in 10-20 years time, as whenever I seem to see a group of large capacity bikes pull up, the riders all seem to remove their helmets to reveal a group in their fifties and sixties. Nothing wrong with that (I'm in that age range myself), but it would be good to see a few younger riders to carry the torch. I was going to mention your 125/motorway remark, but I see you've already been picked up on it! Great review.
Its so easy to forget how much fun 125's are when you've moved on to the bigger stuff
Exactly!
Awesome review! I live in Bermuda and 2 weeks ago bought a blue GSX S125. Absolutely love it, although I can't legally open it up as it were, but none the less a really good quality fun bike.
That was another smashing review. I think you described the soul of the bike very well. I hope Mrs. Flyer enjoys her rides out it as much as you do. Lastly, when your boots come up for replacement, may I suggest you get a pair of Falco “Aviator” boots. Quick donning, ankle protectors and very comfortable.
125's have certainly come on since the days of my Suzuki Gp125 with dropped bars lol , great review mr Flyer !
This was the first bike I wanted to buy when I was learning to ride, especially when it came out in the Suzuki metallic blue paint job. I chose a scooter in the end but wouldn't mind getting one of these as a second bike. Looks like fun. Thanks so much for the review. 😀👍
Great review. I had a Sinnis Terrain 125 to learn the craft, partly down to your positive review. It was great, but what you say about build quality is absolutely right. When I bought my Honda I noticed immediately how much better built it is. The Sinnis did the job, but things like the switchgear felt flimsy in comparison. As a bigger chap, I don’t miss the little single pot struggling/screaming on the hills!
A very nice 125 indeed. I purchased the Honda cbf125 which is a great little bike and is a typical learner bike. Great video as always sir 👍🏻👍🏻
Respect from all CBT holders!
You can’t really go wrong with a Suzuki I have owned a few & never had one break down on me in 50 years of riding .Some of the small capacity Suzuki’s are now made in China as are other Japanese makes .They are built to a higher spec than the average budget Chinese bikes with higher price point components .They are also subject to a more consistent quality control .I would have no hesitation purchasing a Suzuki built in China. The only thing I don’t like on the bike is the high perched pillion seat ,but I doubt it matters as 125 ‘s rarely get used 2 up .The only thing I would add is a modern shaped fly screen to deflect the wind blast ..The price is about right taking into account the EURO 5 spec which has added to all makes .All in all I think it will appeal to young learners & maybe some older experienced riders looking for a lighter bike .Nice one Mr Flyer got to be worth a 👍
I owned the 150cc version, and I'm in love with it, the other brand with lighter rider still couldn't keep up with me, 🤣 (with the displacement). It's light, it's fast, and nimble, and thing that I love the most it's the handling I'm 100kg, and turns without bouncing
What an honor seeing a review about my little bike 😁😁 I love it! I'm sure Mrs Flyer will love it too.. it will definitely look better after she'll pass her full license and take off the L plates 😜
Agreed!
for me personally, my 125 experience was vital, helped me learn the road craft, an idiot pulled out on me and with no ABS and very thing tyres i had no chance, after that day i wanted to get my full licence so i can get a bike with better electronics and bigger tyres and so on.
Good review TMF and hope Mrs TMF will enjoy her time learning on the bike.
Great learner bike , light as a feather giving the new rider experience. Be a good commuter too. Thanks for another great review Andy. Much appreciated.
My pleasure James!
Really appreciate the 125 reviews on the channel! Helps me think about what the first bike I will get would be.
Love the colour scheme of the bike, the yellow works well. Looks a great bike
Great review. Down to earth, informative and straight up. Thanks
I would highly recommend to any rider who is seriously considering a second (or more) bike, to invest in a 125. Hilarious fun, thrash them without too much concern, and cheap as chips to run...and trust me, they're nothing like the 125 you rode in the 1970/80/90's....
...very true...
@@TheMissendenFlyer ....I'm good at speaking the truth. My mum says it's why I don't have any friends....
Oh a 125 review. Love smaller capacity bikes.
Me too!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Would love a review of the new Yamaha xsr 125 if you have the possibility?
Great video, and I am pleased Mrs Flyer is leaning to ride. I am trying to do the same but in this post lockdown time and backlogs I cannot believe how slow it is. Did CBT beginning of May and only managed to get one DA lesson since, so decided to buy a 125 to practice on to find it almost impossible to get one. So no lessons booked and no bikes to buy. In the mean time I am frustratingly enjoying your videos. 😀😀
Keep at it!
Cracking little review this, I hope the wife enjoys many miles on it! Great to see such a well specced little bike too, which brings me back to your pet hate with bigger more expensive bikes not having one in this day and age! 😂
What a great idea the security feature,hopefully it’ll appear on more motorcycles.👍🏻
Just noticed the white van behind you (round the 2:20 mark), guess its payback time with it getting stuck tailgating a 125 ;3
I'm very glad that Mrs Flyer is ready to ride! The family that rides together stays together. She may even get to be as good a rider as you...or even better than you! LOL
Here in SE Asia we have the 150cc. Been using that for long rides and daily commute.
I have the 2018 gsxr version and its a really nice and well made bike. For a 125cc it goes pretty good and its very economic. And believe it or not I'll get more compliments when im on it than my 2020 Gsxr 1000!!
I have a KSR 125 (Austrian) for 7 years and agree that 125’s are great fun. I use mine mostly as a town hack and get 100mpg. It makes a useful stablemate to my Honda cb500fa which I tour with. At 79 yes old I still enjoy riding both bikes and have owned many bikes in 63 years on and off road. P.S. I once beat Barry Sheene at Brands Hatch!!!!! He slid off and I didn’t. My only claim to fame.. Regards JB
I can't wait for my monkey to arrive in September! Good luck Mrs Flyer
Very good review for what seems to be another really good 125 from Suzuki. I think it will hold its value very well; the market for lightly used bikes of that quality, seat height and engine size is really strong anyway, and that has the looks as well.
I learned to ride on a Honda 125 XLback in the 80s. This vid brought back a memory or two. Like getting caught by the police riding it across a golf course! If I had the 200 I’d a got away! 😉They are fun!!⛳️🏍💨💨💨💨💨
Great content flyer great to actually get a proper review
Buy Mrs Flyer some Daytona Ladystar GTX boots, these will make her 2 inches taller. Another great video as per usual.
Good idea!
Wise choice of naked style learner bike. Yes the sports bike style are nice looking but wind protection isn't super important on a machine that barely makes 70 mph. That upright riding position and wider bars makes doing CBT and bike tests cone slalom sooooo much easier. You don't really want all the expensive plastic on a bike that stands a good chance of having a lie down. It's a transition bike for most anyway.
The Japanese bikes are hard to justify when you can pick up a band new Chinese one for way less than a 2nd hand Japanese one though. You can get the Lexmoto LXR in black with gold wheels for £2800. Shame it's got all my negative points about learner 125s.
Yes I don't know much about the Lexmoto, I know they are popular. What I will say is that the Suzuki feels like a premium bit of kit - build quality is excellent.
@@TheMissendenFlyerDon't try and endurance race it if you weigh more than the average teenager on the standard wheels. Check with 44Teeth on that. I was rather shocked with their result.
Your Suzuki would be my 2nd choice of 125. Light weight and close to max allowable bhp. Reliable. Naked bike styling and ergos for easy riding. It's hard to justify though when it's £4000+ and a well specced Chinese bike is £3000-. The Japanese are meeting their nemesis like the European bike industry did in the 70s.
My first choice for a learner bike would be an off-road trail bike as you can learn a whole lot about bike handling riding off-road and power isn't a major part of the experience.
@@stevecade857 Absolutely. I agree with you.
I know the reverse LCD instruments are thought of as ‘more cool’ than traditional LCD panels but they are universally harder to read imho.
Did my test on one off these now upgraded to the gsx s750 iam 46 had to start somewhere lol had my 125 for a year brilliant little bike !!!
Once she’s run in mine would reach 73 mph
Love the smaller bikes. a blast to ride and learn on. On a side note, are you using a new mic or micing position? sounded a bit muffled
I own a 125cc keeway c light retro cruiser and it is so comfortable for my height and sits very comfortable at 80km
That seems to be an ideal little ‘Flyer’ and great fun. Enjoyed that 👍.
The older I get👴🏻……..the more appealing the smaller bikes become.
Totally agree!
My SUZUKI Inazuma 250 (one of the first into the country, several years ago) was " Chinese ". The build quality was superb and I toured from the South Coast to 'up North' and it didn't miss a bit. The only way I knew it was "Chinese" was by a small plate on the frame that stated "China" and the name of the factory.
As a little footnote, it might worth checking your SUZUKI frame for an OEM plate stating..,,,'Changzhou Haojue Suzuki Motorcycle Co., Ltd. (China)'.
I don’t give a monkeys where it was made as long as it’s good!
@@TheMissendenFlyer .....Interesting. The point that you repeatedly made was that the anything "Chinese" was sub-standard ("finish") compared to a named brand eg: SUZUKI. So, the intimation was definitely there. I am still intrigued to know what the manufacturing name plate says on your SUZUKI. By the way, the "monkeys" do seem to care.....
Looking forward to more Mrs Flyer learning to ride content! 👍
Looks good! Be interesting to see how mrs flyer makes out. Best of luck! 😎👍
Thanks 👍
Thanks for the video, I just got mine too in the blue and black a couple of weeks ago
Nice review Andy hope to see Misses Flyer on it soon. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
You and me both!
Hi Andy, great review as always 👍. What would be interesting if you compared your Suzuki with 1 of the best Chinese bikes, the Keeway RKF 125. I just got mine and its a quality piece of kit.
I wish they re-introduce the Suzuki Van Van with the same engine.
Thanks Mr Flyer, what a lovely bike! In my day the best I could find was the Honda CB125 - Those were the days, but time moves on and now we're spoiled for choice. I think the Suzuki (Japanese et al) quality does show but the Chinese bikes seem to be closing the gap? I almost wish I was starting out all over again - almost lol. :>)
Can you do a review of the new Honda CB125F with the claimed 500 mile range or 800km. Will it really do them sorts of miles? No one has done a review of it in depth, cheers
You can take a 125 on a motorway. What you mean is you can't if you're on L plates.
Apparrantly so yes - I didn't realise that.....wouldn't fancy it though!
Softie ! I am 6’2” and 15 stone and me and a mate used to ride 2 up on a a 2 stroke Yamaha 100 cc up and down the M5 in the early 80s to get to roofing jobs. All through the winter carrying our tools in a bucket. Back in the day when men were men and women looked like women ! True story though small bikes are great.
@@TheMissendenFlyer its fine lots large vehcles limited to 56mph i use lots no prob on my nmax 125
I love a 125! Had a cg as a cheap runabout once and rode it flat out pretty much everywhere! Down the back lanes most of my mates couldn't catch me! Motorways were interesting to say the least!
Lol riding a CG on the motorway is like being a human catapult!
@@grahamhiggins1 Feet over the rear indicators flat on the tank and head in the clocks!
This bike is very well balanced, good job Suzuki
I agree - great learner bike…lot of fun!
Not a big seller in Australia most new riders here are looking at LAMS rated bikes and you can get on bikes like a Yami MT07 restricted , our northern neighbours in ASIA would be the market for this bike where you can fit a family of four and your groceries all on these great little bikes, horses for courses as they say.
Looks a great bike, nice review. I nearly got one a few weeks ago but ended up getting the new very retro looking Yamaha XSR 125. (I'm an Oldie returning to biking after many years and have moved to Germany from the UK) They have a passion for moving speed cameras about here weekly in the Saarland so thought I would progress slowly second time around lol! The XSR is a great little bike as well.....maybe you will be doing a review on that as well in the future....take care....
Congratulations on the new bike!
Great review. This is probably the one my wife should have got! Her Honda has an 816mm seat height and she is 5’ 2” so on her toes even in the Daytona boots. How tall is Mrs Flyer out of interest?
5'4"
I would o still prefer my old 1990’s Yamaha TZR 125 Mist & Fly a and it went much better too.
I really enjoyed this video. Thanks mate :)
My pleasure!
Looks like a great little starter bike ,
Loved suzuki had 8 over the years only reason I don't have one now is I like panniers, the only Japanese that suits me is the SX Kawasaki absolutely love it ,
Thanks for the video. I'm hoping to buy one of these so really useful. Have you done a follow uo video?
Yes there’s been a few videos of my Mrs riding it….will do a “one year on” type video in due course…
Love the Vids, hope Mrs Flyer is enjoying the 125.
Quick query .....I am looking at purchasing some of them oxford approved Jean's......the sizing on the site are they true to size.....ie uk32 = 32 waist? Cheers.
Yes they seem to be to me and I have a few pairs - they are good bits of kit....don't forget to follow my sportsbike link below!
Hi 😊 I’m thinking about buying this bike as I’m a learner and I was wondering if you were still going to do the 1 year update to see how the bike has been doing. Ps love your channel!!
I do plan too - it's just getting around to it that's the problem!! By way of a spoiler the back has run, and is still going just great!
@4:23 yes you can you just need to have a full license.
Yep my bad - you're the 53rd to say....apologies
@@TheMissendenFlyer no need for apologies dude I wasn't trying to be a smart arse & had I have read the comments I would've seen people had already pointed it out.
Regarding L plates put some black sticky tape across the L plate then it will be fine
remember doing that after i passed my direct access course... black insulating tape!
My ride to work bike way back, was a Suzuki GP125 2stroke (21bhp) a great little bike.