This was a great insight, I am currently in the recruitment process for the NZDF now after deciding I needed a career of purpose and a real physical and mental challenge. This has been a great reality check of the beuracratic obstacles that will be in my way. Thanks again mate and all the best with your company and future endeavours.
Awesome insight bro! Reckon you should share your views on the application process aswell. Recently just got medically declined because I said I had been diagnosed with AD/HD and had mild tinnitus. It was the Ad/hd that was the deciding factor, and its bullshit. The policies in place for mental health within our government agencies including the DF and nz police is stone aged. Never did I get a meeting to talk to anyone within the organisation to discuss it, just a thank you for applying, but nah. Nevermind the fact that I achieved NCEA merit endorsements, or working in senior management in various jobs after school. Just a questionnaire that decides im not viable, and dumb honesty. No idea how much serving means to some people, and what they have to offer.
Hey brother, I would be completely out of currency on the recruiting aspect as I recruited into the army back in 2007. That is unfortunate, I would say I highly likely have undiagnosed ADHD and people like us thrive in fast moving environments. Focus on the next mission! This doesn't mean giving up on yourself!
So Bang on mate... found this late... judith Collins needs to watch this and fucking listen to the reality of our top class army that has a great past reputation! From x QAMR
Bang on bro. Once that facade of “world class army with mana” drops away, you realise pretty quickly how fucking messy it has all gotten. It was embarrassing towards the end of my shift in the army.
It is unfortunate that it has trended this way. I know many of us are still proud of our service but intervention at the highest level is clearly required.
Great frank discussion of the issues. Sad but appropriate that our allies are wondering what we've contributed to the GWOT. Without Ops there's no point joining, and anyone that already has the skills and experience is out there doing the Ops as a contractor.
It is truly sad brother! I would meet many of our partners, who were jaded and burnt out. Not from a lack of operations but from an unsustainable operational tempo. Unfortunately our chain of command have no intentions of playing their role.
I have been out for a few years. From what I can see , what we generally refer to as support trades are really suffering particularly for qualified tradespeople and up to Sgt , and also Lt-capt. same for combat trades- when you lose qualified soldiers and junior leaders it is hard to recover. A lack of middle management in strategic level posts also creates capability and logistics problems long term. Bit of a vicious circle. Hopefully our country can recover. I was lucky- deployed to Bosnia as a young baggy back in 94! Thanks for sharing
Thanks for your input David! Its definitely across all trades now. The entire defense force and I would also include police are feeling unsupported by this current government. Thanks for your service brother!
I'm joining the army as an infantryman next year. The idea of deployments is a big reason why it interests me so much. really hoping for some good action, Im wanting to help & save people that need it!
Pay is definitely a factor now especially when things like inflation is getting right up and as the fella said. The pay hasn't kept up which a lot of my mates I joined up with are now leaving to civi street to get paid 20k+ more in the same job with less responsibility. As you said, private companies have come a long way with benefits, super, medical, unions, NZDF can't compete. LCPL, CPL's doing all the work, right on the money for fuck all of it while those at the top do very little, but rely on us. Over the last year, we've had 10+ full CPL's leave which is making my Job way harder while still expecting more on top because the amount of work, responsibility, management, training, etc, isn't worth it. The Sgt's will have to step up and do the Cpl's job at this rate. Unfortunately, i'll be the next one to join the bandwagon. It's unfair, stressful. It's too much. Oh and FYI, 1000 nzdf personnel have left since 2019 up until now, but hey, they won't publish that noteworthy information.
After speaking to a few more people I agree. I have spoken to a single mother who literally has to work 2 jobs to make ends meet as her defence salary isn't enough. I appreciate your efforts to try hold things together, at some point you will have to make a choice, do what is best for you. I loved my time in service and still love this country with all my heart but the machine will forget you the minute you step our the door. I guess as it should as it must keep moving!
higher pay is not a substitute for increased tempo. and wtf does mfat have to do with operations. players just need water and oranges at half time. dafuq 😂😂😂
Their signature is required as part of the approval process for operations. They look at risk to government from a reputational damage POV. They're extremely risk adverse and no part of their process involves the idea of "is this the right thing to do".
This was a great insight, I am currently in the recruitment process for the NZDF now after deciding I needed a career of purpose and a real physical and mental challenge. This has been a great reality check of the beuracratic obstacles that will be in my way. Thanks again mate and all the best with your company and future endeavours.
Awesome insight bro! Reckon you should share your views on the application process aswell. Recently just got medically declined because I said I had been diagnosed with AD/HD and had mild tinnitus. It was the Ad/hd that was the deciding factor, and its bullshit. The policies in place for mental health within our government agencies including the DF and nz police is stone aged. Never did I get a meeting to talk to anyone within the organisation to discuss it, just a thank you for applying, but nah. Nevermind the fact that I achieved NCEA merit endorsements, or working in senior management in various jobs after school. Just a questionnaire that decides im not viable, and dumb honesty. No idea how much serving means to some people, and what they have to offer.
Hey brother, I would be completely out of currency on the recruiting aspect as I recruited into the army back in 2007. That is unfortunate, I would say I highly likely have undiagnosed ADHD and people like us thrive in fast moving environments. Focus on the next mission! This doesn't mean giving up on yourself!
So Bang on mate... found this late... judith Collins needs to watch this and fucking listen to the reality of our top class army that has a great past reputation! From x QAMR
Bang on bro. Once that facade of “world class army with mana” drops away, you realise pretty quickly how fucking messy it has all gotten. It was embarrassing towards the end of my shift in the army.
It is unfortunate that it has trended this way. I know many of us are still proud of our service but intervention at the highest level is clearly required.
Great frank discussion of the issues. Sad but appropriate that our allies are wondering what we've contributed to the GWOT. Without Ops there's no point joining, and anyone that already has the skills and experience is out there doing the Ops as a contractor.
It is truly sad brother! I would meet many of our partners, who were jaded and burnt out. Not from a lack of operations but from an unsustainable operational tempo. Unfortunately our chain of command have no intentions of playing their role.
this needs way more views
I have been out for a few years. From what I can see , what we generally refer to as support trades are really suffering particularly for qualified tradespeople and up to Sgt , and also Lt-capt. same for combat trades- when you lose qualified soldiers and junior leaders it is hard to recover. A lack of middle management in strategic level posts also creates capability and logistics problems long term. Bit of a vicious circle. Hopefully our country can recover. I was lucky- deployed to Bosnia as a young baggy back in 94! Thanks for sharing
Thanks for your input David! Its definitely across all trades now. The entire defense force and I would also include police are feeling unsupported by this current government. Thanks for your service brother!
I'm joining the army as an infantryman next year. The idea of deployments is a big reason why it interests me so much. really hoping for some good action, Im wanting to help & save people that need it!
Onwards
Same✅
Good no BS outlook on the current state of the defence force
Just keeping it real and sharing my experiences brother! Thanks for watching.
Pay is definitely a factor now especially when things like inflation is getting right up and as the fella said. The pay hasn't kept up which a lot of my mates I joined up with are now leaving to civi street to get paid 20k+ more in the same job with less responsibility. As you said, private companies have come a long way with benefits, super, medical, unions, NZDF can't compete.
LCPL, CPL's doing all the work, right on the money for fuck all of it while those at the top do very little, but rely on us. Over the last year, we've had 10+ full CPL's leave which is making my Job way harder while still expecting more on top because the amount of work, responsibility, management, training, etc, isn't worth it. The Sgt's will have to step up and do the Cpl's job at this rate.
Unfortunately, i'll be the next one to join the bandwagon. It's unfair, stressful. It's too much. Oh and FYI, 1000 nzdf personnel have left since 2019 up until now, but hey, they won't publish that noteworthy information.
After speaking to a few more people I agree. I have spoken to a single mother who literally has to work 2 jobs to make ends meet as her defence salary isn't enough. I appreciate your efforts to try hold things together, at some point you will have to make a choice, do what is best for you. I loved my time in service and still love this country with all my heart but the machine will forget you the minute you step our the door. I guess as it should as it must keep moving!
Nothing much has changed in the 40 yrs since I got out...
Bang on top heavy
Awesome korero!
Thanks brother!
Good stuff
Get ritto on. Be a good yarn
Has already been discussed. Not sure the world is ready for that haha
Get Curtis Weeks on.
Curtis is a legend and has stopped by for a brew! Might have to get him on the poddy!
Get scojo on
Already spoke to Scojo, we will be blessed with his presence.
What are you allowed beards now?????
Negative brother! Many are asking for it as a perk.
@@fitzactual1894 whatever raises morale eh
higher pay is not a substitute for increased tempo.
and wtf does mfat have to do with operations.
players just need water and oranges at half time. dafuq 😂😂😂
Their signature is required as part of the approval process for operations. They look at risk to government from a reputational damage POV. They're extremely risk adverse and no part of their process involves the idea of "is this the right thing to do".