Yeah. I bet they've had their interest shaken by the PSR stuff and by the way the most of the other clubs reacted with the sudden changes to associated party transactions etc. They're probably wondering what the point of chucking loads of money at Newcastle is when they can't actually buy in big players without years of wheeling and dealing to increase our revenue. Plus, there's nothing stopping the other PL clubs getting together again to throw more obstacles in their way at some point in the future anyway.
I love St. James Park, but if we want to get around the PSR rules, then we have to move to a new stadium. I don't think increasing the capacity to 65,000 is enough.
What makes you think they want to get around PSR ? I've seen no evidence of that whatsoever, if anything it's appeared like they're happy to hide behind it for their lack of spending....
@phoenixrisin5848 Well, the chairman says he wants Newcastle United to be the best team in the world, and for that to happen, they gonna have to get around the rules. TTR mentioned this on lastnights show.
@@phoenixrisin5848 I agree. PSR is a convenient excuse. PIF are an investment fund, their motive is making a profit from investments. The can have a nice little profit club with 65k Geordies filling the stands every week and hiding behind PSR as a reason for minimal transfer spending. If they were truly committed then there would be a new training ground in place by now. We've been lied to from the start.
Like he did the same thing to AC Milan now wants to do the same too. He only used Newcastle as his stepping stone to potentially earn himself a "bigger" move like why.
Yes, it's very worrying. I think the lack of new training ground is the biggest piece of evidence that PIF were never fully committed. It would have been an investment in something that they cannot make money back on e.g. buy players...sell for higher price, expand/new stadium....more fans and higher ticket prices. A new training ground would have been an investment for the benefit of the club, not PIF's future profitability
As great as it is... 65000 doesn't help us challenge financially. Also asks questions about the training ground, women's stadium etc... is that also now not happening? Feels like pif are putting the club to one side as a lesser priority now and just focusing on their own league. But still can't complain as its still better than we've had for decades lol.
In my opinion if they stay at SJP then in order to invest and to increase revenue they are going to have to double or even triple the cost of a ticket in order to bring in the revenue required to push forward. 65,000 at current prices will not generate the income they need to compete with the top 6
I’m a season ticket holder and I went on stadium tour couple of weeks ago and I’m 100% move stadium it looks run down in a lot of places despite current investment! The cafe/bar area is a bit grim in Milburn stand when I go for my half time pie!! No tables to even rest your cuppa on to put your milk and sugar in! Sandro agent saying reports of going to Italy bullshit
How can they hold other events they will be limited there is no roof so would be very weather dependent. Waste of time and money. Bloody typical of Howe you have an Italian national side wizard and he plays longstaff first . If he is not careful we will lose a class player
This is bad news for saudi commitment i feel. Bit gutted with the news. This could be a bluff however given the results on the pitch i wouldnt be surprised if they want to move on. Im 100% Eddie in but if he's not progressing and the saudis are losing interest then that's it for me. Need a new plan. Would love to be a fly on the wall.
I heard that the split ownership of the club might be causing some issues with building a new stadium. PIF don't own the club outright, so if they foot 100% of the bill for a new stadium, they'd want to own 100% of the club's biggest asset. Creates some issues. Not sure a 65k revamp of St James' feels like it will future-proof the club though.
It's a lot of lost revenue whilst the stand is closed. A lot more fans left wanting a ticket and not being able get one. But can't deny it's kinda great news that we'd being staying, although I do still feel that a whole new stadium would have allowed more growth. In any other team in this country, longstaff wouldn't lace tonalis boots.
If I was Sandro, I’d be disheartened as well. There is a lot that will be answered come January. I love Eddie for what he has done but it’s time now. There was some news on an internal meeting that took place to check for options for Managers do we know anything about that or was it fake. It’s time to move ahead and go for the step up
80 and remember watching the Robledo's playing from the un-roofed Leazes end and I want a new stadium too, although I may never see it even if they started building tomorrow.
Nobody can blame Tonali for being unhappy the man’s world class and is behind Longstaff in the pecking order I used to be 100% behind Eddie but TBHim starting to thing some of the stuff and decisions he’s making are very questionable
Theres nowhere in the city to build a new stadium, arena site too small, leasers park a no go (never was) and moving out of town even for 80k capacity just isnt worth giving up our present city centre spot, that as much as anything else is what makes us special and the one fixture that every other teams fans look forward to, and if all goes well i wouldn't be surprised if the Saudis find an engineering solution to the problem of the east stand
About the negotiations with the building owner(s) next to the stadium, no worries, I bet they're told ”sell at this price or we build a stadium somewhere else and you lose this great deal”. Quite simple. I know what I'd do as an owner. :)
This could be a possible reason to remain at SJP given the restrictions on NUFC ability to invest in squad/players due to FFP & Premier league cartel stitch up rules.
I have been willing to consider that Tonali is being somewhat eased in Hall style as he gas to adapt to pace of EPL but the time has come for him to play consistently
I have to say I'm thrilled to hear the news about SJP. New stadiums are beautiful but they lack something. Look at the new Wembley, it's state of the art but the old version, even with the running track was special. The new version could be any other new stadium in the world. Old stadiums have history, passion, memories and an indefinable something that cannot be recreated somewhere else. The new plans for the Gallowgare would be perfect and make the old ground an intimidating fortress that would be the envy of the world.
Most players haven't looked consistently good this season, Tonali included. He doesn't look like he'll score many and when he's been on the pitch he hasn't assisted many either.
Not his job to assist or score, he can do better when he is forward but how many players do you want in the box? The 3 attackers, the 2 fullbacks and if the No 6 (Tonali) is in the box, what about the other 2 midfielders that should play in front of him? 8 outfield players in attack and 2 cater-backs holding the fort? No balance, and that’s how you concede easy goals against mediocre opponents.
Funny how AC Milan sold him before his betting scandal came out, but now Tonali's suspension is over they want him back on loan or move. They knew exactly what was going on.
The general opinion from fans seems to be a willingness to move to a new super stadium but I’ve got no doubt that the PIF will do their home work and make the right choice on balance taking everything into consideration. If it is 65k capacity they’ll still be plenty of people who can’t get in to see the team.
Arsenal 60k Tottenham 63k City 53k 65 is enough and will improve revenue considerably Could we sell out 75k every week , most likely but that would mean a new stadium , its weird as the fanbase had finally accepted that we might need to move and now this Iam also concerned why we haven't invested and upgraded to new training facilities
I’m starting to believe like others that PIF are just kind going through motions with us at the moment. I love st James and always will but we need a new stadium for the club to grow
Buy the old Telewest arena knock it down build a massive underground car park and chargers for EVs, ontop is shops pubs cafe and a sports arena for the lasses and other NUFC sports, they could even build a direct footpath fly over- over the listed propertys from St James's Park... over flow to big screens pubs and great scran nd crack, "Bring it on the Toon man"
I thought they might stay at SJP and extend into Leazes Park. If Tonali IS unsettled there's only one person to blame. It would be a shame to loose him.
Er what? A huge Gallowgate? Urgh. Climbing up the 140+ stairs to get to the top of level 7 is bad enough. St. James' Park is old fashioned and exudes it. Would much rather have a smart new building.
Can’t blame Tonali the team is underperforming and Eddie doesn’t make changes tactically . He’s probably one of the best Midfielders on the planet right now and wants a bigger club
Hiya Paul, I would like to break record attendance at St James's park, to tell you the truth, it would look awful, like you were saying, 3 massive stands and a la'al one on the East stand, this is Choppy
If he wants to leave it's EH,s fault. This is ridiculous we need a change.And I would rather a big new statement stadium room for progression, and a draw for new talent.
A super stand that will generate atmosphere around the ground sounds great on paper. It’ll only work if the entire stand is safe standing like Dortmunds is. And include fans who genuinely want to sing majority of the game. The strawberry corner section is good for consistent singing, if we have that x10 in the gallowgate then it’ll be a great idea. Need to do something about the east Stand though.
If it’s true we will never compete PSR , it’s not just a stand it’s the revenue that a new stadium will bring I hope they won’t get planning permission , I’m gutted if it’s true but I’ll wait and see , I hope it’s not because they don’t want to spend on us on a new stadium scale , if tonali is unhappy I’m not surprised, longstaff 😂🤣😂 their isn’t a club in the world not just the premier league wouldn’t play tonali except Newcastle with Eddie, still don’t understand how tonali doesn’t take set pieces, I could give a list of 14 players we should sell , if I was Harvey Barnes I’d be the same along with Kelly , their is 3 players I wouldn’t be shocked to see transfer requests going on due to Eddie and I wouldn’t be upset as I could fully understand, and anyone saying tonali owes us , no he doesn’t he’s a professional footballer who’s career is short and he’s not going to sit on the bench devaluing himself,
A once in a lifetime cheque means we seize the chance and build a brand new multi purpose super stadium, with retractable roof. Tarting up SJP for the addition of 12000 extra seats doesn’t do it for me. The East stand itself is 50 year old, it’s time to move on, who knows it may change our luck as I’ve never seen us win anything of note and I’ve been going since the east stand was built. As for Tonali, I’d move him on. It’s known we need to sell, so rather than lose Bruno or isak, let’s recoup our money for him. While Milan may feign ignorance over his betting while at the club, he certainly knew about it, and the potential implications but chose to hide it while negotiating with NUFC. For that I would have shipped him out at the start of the season, and if he isn’t getting a game then that’s another reason to move him on. Move on Wilson, Miggy, Tripps and Targett, bring in Ferguson from Brighton on loan as mentioned by Chris on evermore
Eddies a part of the problem as his selection choices are bad during games and before games,longstaff is not a good player he’s mediocre at best tonali is world class and good glad to stay at st James park like you said no one has a club stadium in the centre of there city and moving location is not always the best option and the owners know that
wilson has looked ok, i can see where your coming from Paul but bloody hell he has only played 10 mins try him over 90 and i guarentee he would be injured for another spell in the treatment room, get him sold along with miggy longstaff and trippier and then we can try and move a little forward with bakoyoko and a half decent rcb, what we dont need is Howe dishing out new contracts to these deadwood
still think moving makes more sense but i'm sure it would be excellent. Tonali played 2 games, suffered cramp and didn't start because of that, he will start on Sat.
Do you honestly believe that garbage from howe,if ur fit to be on the bench ur fit to play ffs.he potentially through injury could have been on after a couple of mins.
@@LaurenceGill-l4p it was widely reported he was struggling after Liv, remember he wasn't playing regularly for a year. Can't risk injury from fatigue, look at last season. He played 2 in a row for the first time in ages, int games are slower paced. Our training sessions are as intense as games. His press in the Italy games is beyond everyone else. The setup was working in the first half. Poor defensive errors killed us, then some weird subs from Howe.
It sounds to me that PIF are going with this option because they are losing interest. I don't blame them to be honest because the premier league are just screwing us over anyway possible. This option certainly doesn't bring in the revenue like a new stadium would. I am sick of hearing about PSR it is a real downer and destroying the football we all love.
To think the club had plans ready to go on an 80K new stadium in 1998. Hall the local tycoon was more visionary than the richest men in football 30 years later. A bigger Galowgate isnt an amazing or visionary upgrade it's more an amber light than a green light and makes us competitive with Liverpools ground rather than Spuds.
Huge news indeed Paul but not good news, I'm not convinced that the owners intend to be here long term, a new stadium in the park would be a tremendous step forward and a clear statement of intent.
Extremely underwhelming if this turns out to be true re the stadium expansion. We go from talk of billions of pounds being spent by PIF on a state of the art new stadium to a bloody stand being expanded! What the hell is going on with this project! PIF obviously have no interest in bankrolling the club to the initial levels which were talked about. The more disappointing news like this that emerges increases my thoughts that PSR is a convenient excuse for the club to not spend.
An 80 year old season ticket holder told me: Number of trophies won whilst the Leazes was the "Home" end - 11: with the Gallowgate as the "Home" end - 0. Tradition went out the window 50+ years ago. A "Black and White Wall" won't win trophies but will earn loads of media and marketing exposure - like Dortmund's it'll be a destination for football-fan tourists.
I think things have fallen apart pif going down the cheap route makes no sense,Howe ruining the team and angering our best player and just look at the awful football we play
As for the extension nah i will wait until it comes from the horses mouth i think a new ground tbh....If Tonali want's to go back to Italy only one man to blame imo ....
No new stadium. Cant blame Tonali Eddie picking him over his favourite longstaff .Will there be new players bought in January i have my doubts. Looking like the saudis are sick already because off the prem lge stopping us from spending through psr.
Is it only the telegraph reporting this?????? Everyones number one option was to stay at SJP However we all know that to bring in more revenue we need to build a new stadium. I think Telegraph are just creating a headline that isn't wrong but misleading
I’m not so sure about this Paul. I think St James’ Park with a huge wall is all well and good but it is not fit to house other sporting events and rock/pop concerts in order to expand our revenue. Internally St James’ is also out of date, it’s not just about a new stand. It’s about redeveloping the whole stadium. I think a new stadium will happen. I would say watch this space, keep up the good work mate
If go for this wall idea I don’t mind but their must start later stages of plan must be them getting into move to a super stadium in 80,000 people with within 2030 to 2034 Newcastle and other fans will fill it easily because of the way that the season passes are setting so quickly
TBF up until the last couple of games Tonal hadn't done enough to deserve the starting spot , It' funny though that he's looked better in the six role rather than Longstaff's position
If we did build a new stadium away from SJP , the logical place for me is skinnerburn rd . In between the Utilita arena and the river . If the money is available you could build a man City type infrastructure . Personally i would love to keep our history and stay at the SJP .
Without the ability to spend money we'll be mid table dross. I thought the Saudis were winners and would take it to the courts to fight it but apparently not,. Dissapointing
Who story is getting blown out of proportion. Article says "they are looking at" about the Gallowgate end. Then the rest of the story is full of ifs and maybes !!!!.
Tonali was brilliant against Villa, had two good games since. He's scored one goal and has two assists, howay Paul, you like your stats, back up your opinion on Tonali with evidence that he should be in the team. Tonali has had less impact on our midfield than Lewis miley did last season and he was 17 years old at the time ! I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong if Tonali turns his career around for us but wanting him to start because he had a good game for Italy is absurd, it's for Newcastle that we want him to play well and for a player of £52m he's been bang average to very underwhelming. He's cost us goals in his last two games, lost track of the times he's turned away from shots or pulled out of challenges. But it's okay when he does it...not Longstaff though, why Paul ? The super stand won't happen, just like everything else we hoped for when the Saudis took over. They may have had the most ambitious plans when they first arrived, I guess we'll never know, but it looks to me like it's "jam tomorrow" yet again from the latest owners at nufc.
I bet Tonali is unhappy. He's world class and Eddie Howe thinks Longstaff should start over him
Good player but not world class yet could be in the future though
look at newcastles record when longstaff starts!...thats why!
He’s had a handful of great games at best, not world class atm
Just to but in tonali knows hes needed a catch up hes also younger than longstaff
If he’s unhappy let’s see him prove Eddie wrong when he comes on. We’ve put him on a pedestal, time to deliver big time.
A new stadium would have shown huge commitment by the saudis now im not so sure.
I thought the exact same thing 🤔
Yep, sounds like a cop out. No progress on the training ground either. Not looking good.
Yeah. I bet they've had their interest shaken by the PSR stuff and by the way the most of the other clubs reacted with the sudden changes to associated party transactions etc.
They're probably wondering what the point of chucking loads of money at Newcastle is when they can't actually buy in big players without years of wheeling and dealing to increase our revenue.
Plus, there's nothing stopping the other PL clubs getting together again to throw more obstacles in their way at some point in the future anyway.
I love St. James Park, but if we want to get around the PSR rules, then we have to move to a new stadium. I don't think increasing the capacity to 65,000 is enough.
What makes you think they want to get around PSR ? I've seen no evidence of that whatsoever, if anything it's appeared like they're happy to hide behind it for their lack of spending....
@phoenixrisin5848 Well, the chairman says he wants Newcastle United to be the best team in the world, and for that to happen, they gonna have to get around the rules. TTR mentioned this on lastnights show.
@@phoenixrisin5848 I agree. PSR is a convenient excuse. PIF are an investment fund, their motive is making a profit from investments. The can have a nice little profit club with 65k Geordies filling the stands every week and hiding behind PSR as a reason for minimal transfer spending. If they were truly committed then there would be a new training ground in place by now. We've been lied to from the start.
being benched for longstaff is enough to make the lad walk back to italy. eddie can't deal with big players
Like he did the same thing to AC Milan now wants to do the same too. He only used Newcastle as his stepping stone to potentially earn himself a "bigger" move like why.
Penny pinching again and no sign of a new training ground!
Yes you get more than a feeling that they aren’t fully invested in any project
Yes, it's very worrying. I think the lack of new training ground is the biggest piece of evidence that PIF were never fully committed. It would have been an investment in something that they cannot make money back on e.g. buy players...sell for higher price, expand/new stadium....more fans and higher ticket prices. A new training ground would have been an investment for the benefit of the club, not PIF's future profitability
Not good enough if they take the 65,000 route.
As great as it is... 65000 doesn't help us challenge financially. Also asks questions about the training ground, women's stadium etc... is that also now not happening? Feels like pif are putting the club to one side as a lesser priority now and just focusing on their own league. But still can't complain as its still better than we've had for decades lol.
Tonali will be 1st choice when Bruno goes to join pep
Stay at St James will set us back 20 years. Ffs, would be disappointing if so.
In my opinion if they stay at SJP then in order to invest and to increase revenue they are going to have to double or even triple the cost of a ticket in order to bring in the revenue required to push forward. 65,000 at current prices will not generate the income they need to compete with the top 6
Exactly this
Not surprised Tonali ain't happy, plays 90 mins for country and gets benched or subbed with the toon.
Wouldn’t blame Sandro for being frustrated & possibly wanting out due to it
Just like his AC Milan days traitor
He owes us ,well,AC Milan owe us.
Sounds like a dumbing down of their plans for the stadium, perhaps PIF are losing interest!!!
Have you seen PiF's portfolio? if they lost interest they would have bailed, their investments are a matter of pride for them more so than monetary.
@@jun3078 I so so hope your right
PIF have lost interest. Saudi has the World Cup and FFP has proven to be too much of a barrier.
I’m a season ticket holder and I went on stadium tour couple of weeks ago and I’m 100% move stadium it looks run down in a lot of places despite current investment! The cafe/bar area is a bit grim in Milburn stand when I go for my half time pie!! No tables to even rest your cuppa on to put your milk and sugar in!
Sandro agent saying reports of going to Italy bullshit
How can they hold other events they will be limited there is no roof so would be very weather dependent. Waste of time and money.
Bloody typical of Howe you have an Italian national side wizard and he plays longstaff first . If he is not careful we will lose a class player
If it’s true, it sort of goes hand in hand with what they’d done so far which is zero.
This is bad news for saudi commitment i feel. Bit gutted with the news. This could be a bluff however given the results on the pitch i wouldnt be surprised if they want to move on. Im 100% Eddie in but if he's not progressing and the saudis are losing interest then that's it for me. Need a new plan. Would love to be a fly on the wall.
100% Eddie in? really? Not 65 or 50 etc. You not been watching the crap lad?
Hope this is the first stage and they superstand the other two sides that they can to increase capacity even more
I heard that the split ownership of the club might be causing some issues with building a new stadium. PIF don't own the club outright, so if they foot 100% of the bill for a new stadium, they'd want to own 100% of the club's biggest asset. Creates some issues. Not sure a 65k revamp of St James' feels like it will future-proof the club though.
What a load of bollox hahahaha
It's a lot of lost revenue whilst the stand is closed. A lot more fans left wanting a ticket and not being able get one. But can't deny it's kinda great news that we'd being staying, although I do still feel that a whole new stadium would have allowed more growth. In any other team in this country, longstaff wouldn't lace tonalis boots.
I am twixed and torn on this! One part of me wants to stay another thinks we should move to a 75K stadium
If I was Sandro, I’d be disheartened as well. There is a lot that will be answered come January. I love Eddie for what he has done but it’s time now. There was some news on an internal meeting that took place to check for options for Managers do we know anything about that or was it fake.
It’s time to move ahead and go for the step up
If the cost of redeveloping the ground is going to be about the same as a new stadium, I would be happy with a new stadium.
It definitely wouldn’t be.
65 personally wanted a new stadium
80 and remember watching the Robledo's playing from the un-roofed Leazes end and I want a new stadium too, although I may never see it even if they started building tomorrow.
I thought they wanted a 70.000 + capacity Paul that’s why I wanted a new stadium 67.000 is still a big capacity though
Nobody can blame Tonali for being unhappy the man’s world class and is behind Longstaff in the pecking order I used to be 100% behind Eddie but TBHim starting to thing some of the stuff and decisions he’s making are very questionable
Theres nowhere in the city to build a new stadium, arena site too small, leasers park a no go (never was) and moving out of town even for 80k capacity just isnt worth giving up our present city centre spot, that as much as anything else is what makes us special and the one fixture that every other teams fans look forward to, and if all goes well i wouldn't be surprised if the Saudis find an engineering solution to the problem of the east stand
If this is true about Tonali that's me moving from sitting on the fence on Eddie Howe, to join the out camp !
@@simonkerry3793 that can’t be on Howe imo mate
@@stevemiddlemiss6545 If he was playing him as he should have been, he may not be feeling he wants a move. If this is true !!
@ I’ve never really thought Tonali ever wanted to be here tbh so I wouldn’t be surprised he loves Milan
Me too
About the negotiations with the building owner(s) next to the stadium, no worries, I bet they're told ”sell at this price or we build a stadium somewhere else and you lose this great deal”. Quite simple. I know what I'd do as an owner. :)
This could be a possible reason to remain at SJP given the restrictions on NUFC ability to invest in squad/players due to FFP & Premier league cartel stitch up rules.
I have been willing to consider that Tonali is being somewhat eased in Hall style as he gas to adapt to pace of EPL but the time has come for him to play consistently
Sandro will be only the first elite to leave mid table mid stadium same position as when owners took over
The article says its just one idea and it is not decided.
Of course it’s not decided, it’s simply a talking point.
I have to say I'm thrilled to hear the news about SJP. New stadiums are beautiful but they lack something. Look at the new Wembley, it's state of the art but the old version, even with the running track was special. The new version could be any other new stadium in the world.
Old stadiums have history, passion, memories and an indefinable something that cannot be recreated somewhere else. The new plans for the Gallowgare would be perfect and make the old ground an intimidating fortress that would be the envy of the world.
Me too. I think it will be awesome.
Most players haven't looked consistently good this season, Tonali included. He doesn't look like he'll score many and when he's been on the pitch he hasn't assisted many either.
Not his job to assist or score, he can do better when he is forward but how many players do you want in the box? The 3 attackers, the 2 fullbacks and if the No 6 (Tonali) is in the box, what about the other 2 midfielders that should play in front of him? 8 outfield players in attack and 2 cater-backs holding the fort? No balance, and that’s how you concede easy goals against mediocre opponents.
@GianM1000 my bad. I thought it was all the players jobs to assist and score.
This team will be up for sale before you know it Mark my words.
Need a bigger stadium than 65k, it's not going to generate that much more revenue and we will still be behind in making revenue
Funny how AC Milan sold him before his betting scandal came out, but now Tonali's suspension is over they want him back on loan or move. They knew exactly what was going on.
The general opinion from fans seems to be a willingness to move to a new super stadium but I’ve got no doubt that the PIF will do their home work and make the right choice on balance taking everything into consideration. If it is 65k capacity they’ll still be plenty of people who can’t get in to see the team.
Oh no... i wanted a superstadium
65 not enough
Arsenal 60k Tottenham 63k
City 53k
65 is enough and will improve revenue considerably
Could we sell out 75k every week , most likely but that would mean a new stadium , its weird as the fanbase had finally accepted that we might need to move and now this
Iam also concerned why we haven't invested and upgraded to new training facilities
Wilson and cash for Bowen would interest a lot of our fans
Tonali has got start on Saturday against Leicester city
This not not a ‘ once in a generation cheque ‘ This is a spit and polish and buy Spurs or Liverpool somewhere down the line
I'm baffled with the longstaff situation i don't think he'd get in a top half team and yet he keeps getting picked off Howe
It's hard enough to see at the top off that stand going to be even worse if it goes any higher
I’m starting to believe like others that PIF are just kind going through motions with us at the moment. I love st James and always will but we need a new stadium for the club to grow
Longstaff must be giving Howie one or two
Buy the old Telewest arena knock it down build a massive underground car park and chargers for EVs, ontop is shops pubs cafe and a sports arena for the lasses and other NUFC sports, they could even build a direct footpath fly over- over the listed propertys from St James's Park... over flow to big screens pubs and great scran nd crack, "Bring it on the Toon man"
I thought they might stay at SJP and extend into Leazes Park. If Tonali IS unsettled there's only one person to blame. It would be a shame to loose him.
I think this is now dissapointing- 65000?? Have the owners now gone stale as well as the team ?
PSR is killing us, we need to generate more revenue. This should NOT be good news to fans who understand.
Howe out no plan A never mind plan B , he picks the wrong players , his in game management is terrible , get him out.
for me i will be glad if they stay but at the end of the day its hardly up to us to stay or go.
Er what? A huge Gallowgate? Urgh. Climbing up the 140+ stairs to get to the top of level 7 is bad enough.
St. James' Park is old fashioned and exudes it. Would much rather have a smart new building.
Can’t blame Tonali the team is underperforming and Eddie doesn’t make changes tactically . He’s probably one of the best Midfielders on the planet right now and wants a bigger club
Cant blame Tonali really if its true. Imagine being benched for someone as bad as Longstaff constantly.
Hiya Paul, I would like to break record attendance at St James's park, to tell you the truth, it would look awful, like you were saying, 3 massive stands and a la'al one on the East stand, this is Choppy
If he wants to leave it's EH,s fault. This is ridiculous we need a change.And I would rather a big new statement stadium room for progression, and a draw for new talent.
A super stand that will generate atmosphere around the ground sounds great on paper. It’ll only work if the entire stand is safe standing like Dortmunds is. And include fans who genuinely want to sing majority of the game. The strawberry corner section is good for consistent singing, if we have that x10 in the gallowgate then it’ll be a great idea. Need to do something about the east Stand though.
If it’s true we will never compete PSR , it’s not just a stand it’s the revenue that a new stadium will bring I hope they won’t get planning permission , I’m gutted if it’s true but I’ll wait and see , I hope it’s not because they don’t want to spend on us on a new stadium scale , if tonali is unhappy I’m not surprised, longstaff 😂🤣😂 their isn’t a club in the world not just the premier league wouldn’t play tonali except Newcastle with Eddie, still don’t understand how tonali doesn’t take set pieces, I could give a list of 14 players we should sell , if I was Harvey Barnes I’d be the same along with Kelly , their is 3 players I wouldn’t be shocked to see transfer requests going on due to Eddie and I wouldn’t be upset as I could fully understand, and anyone saying tonali owes us , no he doesn’t he’s a professional footballer who’s career is short and he’s not going to sit on the bench devaluing himself,
65,000 ? It’s hardly worth it 🥴 PIF Doesn’t Seem bothered anymore
@@simonmarrs3963 have to agree if there’s huge investment in the team but not sure if they will
@@stevemiddlemiss6545 It’s a bit odd though , I thought NDA With in order
I agree, definitely think they’re losing interest.
What? 😂 It would be second largest in the country after Old Trafford.
@ A few extra seats for $1 billion lol Yeah right !
A once in a lifetime cheque means we seize the chance and build a brand new multi purpose super stadium, with retractable roof. Tarting up SJP for the addition of 12000 extra seats doesn’t do it for me. The East stand itself is 50 year old, it’s time to move on, who knows it may change our luck as I’ve never seen us win anything of note and I’ve been going since the east stand was built.
As for Tonali, I’d move him on. It’s known we need to sell, so rather than lose Bruno or isak, let’s recoup our money for him. While Milan may feign ignorance over his betting while at the club, he certainly knew about it, and the potential implications but chose to hide it while negotiating with NUFC. For that I would have shipped him out at the start of the season, and if he isn’t getting a game then that’s another reason to move him on.
Move on Wilson, Miggy, Tripps and Targett, bring in Ferguson from Brighton on loan as mentioned by Chris on evermore
Yep, just yep. Great we have a new stand...wow. PSR laughing at us.
Eddies a part of the problem as his selection choices are bad during games and before games,longstaff is not a good player he’s mediocre at best tonali is world class and good glad to stay at st James park like you said no one has a club stadium in the centre of there city and moving location is not always the best option and the owners know that
I don't believe it, I think its a new stadium in castle leazes park.
wilson has looked ok, i can see where your coming from Paul but bloody hell he has only played 10 mins try him over 90 and i guarentee he would be injured for another spell in the treatment room, get him sold along with miggy longstaff and trippier and then we can try and move a little forward with bakoyoko and a half decent rcb, what we dont need is Howe dishing out new contracts to these deadwood
Evening Paul!
Hello mate, hope you're well.
still think moving makes more sense but i'm sure it would be excellent. Tonali played 2 games, suffered cramp and didn't start because of that, he will start on Sat.
Do you honestly believe that garbage from howe,if ur fit to be on the bench ur fit to play ffs.he potentially through injury could have been on after a couple of mins.
@@LaurenceGill-l4p it was widely reported he was struggling after Liv, remember he wasn't playing regularly for a year. Can't risk injury from fatigue, look at last season. He played 2 in a row for the first time in ages, int games are slower paced. Our training sessions are as intense as games. His press in the Italy games is beyond everyone else. The setup was working in the first half. Poor defensive errors killed us, then some weird subs from Howe.
Leaving the city centre would be a disaster. We wouldn’t fill out a 70K stadium. The Too. Should stay in the Toon!
It sounds to me that PIF are going with this option because they are losing interest. I don't blame them to be honest because the premier league are just screwing us over anyway possible. This option certainly doesn't bring in the revenue like a new stadium would. I am sick of hearing about PSR it is a real downer and destroying the football we all love.
Disappointing, left behind again against other clubs build new stadia
To think the club had plans ready to go on an 80K new stadium in 1998. Hall the local tycoon was more visionary than the richest men in football 30 years later. A bigger Galowgate isnt an amazing or visionary upgrade it's more an amber light than a green light and makes us competitive with Liverpools ground rather than Spuds.
Did the telegraph say how much bigger the stadium is going to be
Huge news indeed Paul but not good news, I'm not convinced that the owners intend to be here long term, a new stadium in the park would be a tremendous step forward and a clear statement of intent.
Extremely underwhelming if this turns out to be true re the stadium expansion. We go from talk of billions of pounds being spent by PIF on a state of the art new stadium to a bloody stand being expanded! What the hell is going on with this project! PIF obviously have no interest in bankrolling the club to the initial levels which were talked about. The more disappointing news like this that emerges increases my thoughts that PSR is a convenient excuse for the club to not spend.
An 80 year old season ticket holder told me: Number of trophies won whilst the Leazes was the "Home" end - 11: with the Gallowgate as the "Home" end - 0. Tradition went out the window 50+ years ago. A "Black and White Wall" won't win trophies but will earn loads of media and marketing exposure - like Dortmund's it'll be a destination for football-fan tourists.
I think things have fallen apart pif going down the cheap route makes no sense,Howe ruining the team and angering our best player and just look at the awful football we play
Crap,I thought PIF had big ambitions, doubts creeping in now,think top 6 clubs just put so many rules against NUFC,that Saudis losing interest
sack howe now tonali needs game time longy needs to be sold he is pure profit
As for the extension nah i will wait until it comes from the horses mouth i think a new ground tbh....If Tonali want's to go back to Italy only one man to blame imo ....
Sandro unhappy you don't say 😇😇😎😎
New stadium all day long 4 black a white walls is greater than 1
I love SJP but now is the time
I think an expansion of St James would be fantastic. 65-68k would be unreal.
Not for me, plus no one could know there will be NDA's all over it so a still think it's a new stadium
No new stadium. Cant blame Tonali Eddie picking him over his favourite longstaff .Will there be new players bought in January i have my doubts. Looking like the saudis are sick already because off the prem lge stopping us from spending through psr.
Is it only the telegraph reporting this?????? Everyones number one option was to stay at SJP However we all know that to bring in more revenue we need to build a new stadium. I think Telegraph are just creating a headline that isn't wrong but misleading
Can only be the height of the west stand
New stadium please 80k minimum, preferably 100k. We will fill it
Would like it to be larger capacity or better to move
I’m not so sure about this Paul. I think St James’ Park with a huge wall is all well and good but it is not fit to house other sporting events and rock/pop concerts in order to expand our revenue. Internally St James’ is also out of date, it’s not just about a new stand. It’s about redeveloping the whole stadium. I think a new stadium will happen.
I would say watch this space, keep up the good work mate
If go for this wall idea I don’t mind but their must start later stages of plan must be them getting into move to a super stadium in 80,000 people with within 2030 to 2034 Newcastle and other fans will fill it easily because of the way that the season passes are setting so quickly
TBF up until the last couple of games Tonal hadn't done enough to deserve the starting spot , It' funny though that he's looked better in the six role rather than Longstaff's position
If we did build a new stadium away from SJP , the logical place for me is skinnerburn rd . In between the Utilita arena and the river . If the money is available you could build a man City type infrastructure . Personally i would love to keep our history and stay at the SJP .
Without the ability to spend money we'll be mid table dross. I thought the Saudis were winners and would take it to the courts to fight it but apparently not,. Dissapointing
Who story is getting blown out of proportion. Article says "they are looking at" about the Gallowgate end. Then the rest of the story is full of ifs and maybes !!!!.
Don't believe the Telegraph at all, plans for both outcome would have been drawn up and PIF were making a decision early next year
I'd had my head turned and eventually accepted a stadium move. Had my head turned again my this news and like this idea.
Tonali has to start every game tbh if that means rotating joe/Willock with longy with there injury issues could be the choice.
Tonali was brilliant against Villa, had two good games since. He's scored one goal and has two assists, howay Paul, you like your stats, back up your opinion on Tonali with evidence that he should be in the team. Tonali has had less impact on our midfield than Lewis miley did last season and he was 17 years old at the time !
I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong if Tonali turns his career around for us but wanting him to start because he had a good game for Italy is absurd, it's for Newcastle that we want him to play well and for a player of £52m he's been bang average to very underwhelming.
He's cost us goals in his last two games, lost track of the times he's turned away from shots or pulled out of challenges. But it's okay when he does it...not Longstaff though, why Paul ?
The super stand won't happen, just like everything else we hoped for when the Saudis took over. They may have had the most ambitious plans when they first arrived, I guess we'll never know, but it looks to me like it's "jam tomorrow" yet again from the latest owners at nufc.
PIF seems to have lost interest. It is a shame Eddie keeps doing that. English managers can never be elite because of their stubbornness.
Build a new stadium that will accommodate 80K. That represents a 'project'. This just isn't if it's true...
You think we would really sell back to Milan? F them . A loan is out of question
I agree!