Update: Mistake on the guide! ua-cam.com/video/w7K6m7pjSXA/v-deo.html I assumed made an assumption that since the elk riders was getting the activation of Exuberance that the marksman would also in a range combat, but unfortunately I am human and I made a mistake. But I think the best thing to use is a venomous lizard. I still do think that the Snow Peak Roc due to its probability is not the best unless you get a super high level and get above 75% proc even then you still got a room for error. Sorry for mistake
Exuberance does not work on ranged, the only reason your battlereport showed the pets rageskill was b/c it was a melee unit getting close enough to your archer to let your golden roc cast his spell. golden roc is for infantry and cav. ✌
You didn't take into consideration the range of both skills. Golden rok talent hability has a "near" range. I wouldn't want my marksmen to attack from even closer.
The goal was not for dmg, I hope I was able to explain better. By doing the golden roc you can rely on rage accumulation and cast more skills further. Btw, I've tested golden roc before if you don't have passion u can't convert to dmg. Unless I tested wrong. Pls help double check. Put it on inf if u get dmg. It works on my elk riders wirh bakshi and emrys with springblade
@@Shinchi42Yeah about rage you are right. I meant RANGE, like attack radius. The golden roc talent hability was meant for cavs. If you run it with marksmen they will attack from closer, just as your elk riders I guess.
So I did a test again. I was wrong in the video. The range I assumed bc of elk riders. U don't active exuberance. Sooo I think best is to use veno. I think snow is still not good
I did some tests, if you are at maximum attack distance it doesn't work (medium distance for shooters) if you move closer to enter close range it works. But there's no point in archers attacking at maximum distance. 
@@Shinchi42I'm talking about exuberance, for elk riders it's perfect because emris and bakshi attack closely so it works, try to do a test with a tank in front and an archery gear behind at a long distance with exuberance, you'll notice that exuberance won't activate.. 
@@Shinchi42I believe that exuberance will not make you activate even passion at maximum archer range, so in war it is useless, but I'm waiting for your next video
What do you think of running gold roc without talent for archers? It has great strength and agility so it will give a good bonus to chain strike and to the crit damage skills. And seems no talent really sinergizes with syndrion
Venomous lizard i think can be a good option like with kinnara hosk, in the way you spread dots and you apply lot of damage with the counter attack. I think snow roc with the 2 upgraded of concentration with works well but it will take i damn long Time before it will be good
@@marcbourinet7027 errrrr. Try it. The thing is you need to meet the first requirements then u go through another probability. 😅 I assume you are are invested in snow rok?
No i have a Sand lizard 😂 Just trying to look in the future, to see all the option is possible to have. Do you know how they calculate when they Say like 0,8% ( dépending on strenght) ?
I don't have exact calculations I've tried but don't match up. Btw update. I'm wrong about golden roc.but I still think the best is not snow roc. Perhaps venomous is better
hi i have a question your main talent in your pet is in the second slot how is this possible? always main talent is first one and also you can not buy as I know main talent
@@Lion-ow4br I don't most games that are in this genre will be like this. I'm playing a new game on the channel called Zombie Waves. It's fun play on your own pace
Spoiler: Golden Roc's talent attack range is Near. So I don't think it will work at range. What u did was a close combat. At range, Golden Roc's talent won't work unless at close combat
@Shinchi42 You're trying to say that because you get a 100% guaranteed Def Break on Nico Rage skill, plus an additional 10% chance to Def break on each normal attack via Kinnara's Control Tree node Ambush should you be running her as commander, that a 30% chance to deal bonus damage isn't good enough? Well you'd be right if there was A: a better option and B: if you weren't incorrectly devaluing the first part of Concentration which is the most important factor "+% physical attack determined by Luck" Firstly the reason why Golden Roc's Exuberance is not a better option.. well really it should have been self evident. You first argued that the 30% chance to activate was too low, so you traded it for a 0% chance to activate.. ??? This is some kinda logic the current US president might say. Anyways the Passion +5% rage accumulation speed for 5 seconds is mediocre in a vacuum because you have to understand how rage cycles actually play out. You didn't activate the Passion until 15 seconds into the battle. Which means for the first 15 seconds of the battle it did exactly N O T H I N G When it activated it gave you 20 rage (rounded up), and it healed 24 units (Who thought a heal this ineffective was significant?) Lets break this down per second to make it painfully obvious to anyone reading. You got 20 rage after 15 seconds. 20 divided by 15 is 1.33 repeating. You got the value of 1.3 rage per second out of this. And that required a 2 skill investment since you only got that little bit from the Feral Exuberance you have equipped right? You know you need 1000 rage to cast a rage skill, and you didn't even get this benefit until AFTER the first rage skill cycle? Anyways do I even need to go further? It's doing basically nothing at all. And for that you also have 0% chance to activate it's damage factor. Meanwhile you're losing 0.4%, 0.8% or 1.2% bonus physical attack (determined by luck) that would have been amping your damage every, single. ****ing. turn. As well as an actual chance to do some war pet rage skill damage factor. You put forward two alternatives, the first was Sand Lizard which is nonsensical because the Sand Lizard heals four legions, so it can be on your infantry and still be healing your Archers. And the second was the Venomous Lizard which thankfully actually has some merit. And it just so happens I'd already worked on a build just for this: Venomous Lizard (Marksmen Kinnara/Hosk Counterattack version) (Basically only useful for t5 players with maxed Hosk, it is strong though) - Infection (Agility) - Counterstrike (Endurance) - Super Infection (Luck) - Manic Might (Strength) - Wild Counterstrike (Agility) - Shieldbreaker (Strength) - Bristles (Endurance) - Hit Back (Luck) Now this build WOULD function. The problem is that A: does nothing in behemoths or on offense and is purely reactionary and defensive. And B: it completely loses sight of what the Archers job is supposed to be, which is single target ranged DPS and murdering Mages, the primary threat on the battlefield in any good war. (other than rallies) Pets are a long term investment already, so you don't tell people to get the pet that's going to be worthless as soon as they progress a little more. Snowpeak Roc and Sand Lizard are very future-proof because healing 4 marches will be always be useful, same as +% damage amp. They aren't hero specialized or march specific. The reason why I would never tell anyone to invest in Berserk Faedrake is because it's very clearly designed around Forondil/Theodore and the next set of cavalry heros that will come out after will certainly find the Berserk Faedrake to be useless. I highly recommend you put more thought into your video before you blast out this "expert tip" that is steering people to make bad decisions in the long term of their accounts. There are limits to how much you can invest in your pets, you can only focus on one or two because of the seasonal buy limits and the limited amount of exchange coins you get weekly. Thank you for reading, and I hope it helps anyone else who watches this video and is thinking of making an equally silly decision.
How u gonna heal ur archers with infantry with sand lizards? 🤔. Your infantry is so far up front while your archers are behind. Good comment for your opinion but agree to disagree that's part of a strategy game. A venomous lizard is probably the best way to go for archers and snow roc is not really that great imo.
@@Shinchi42 A venomous lizard is probably the best? You spent most of the video telling people to use Golden Roc for Exuberance whilst Venomous Lizard was barely a footnote at the end. And please don't mistake this as some kind of an argument or debate. Facts are still facts at the end of the day. You are giving people misinformation, and based on your own reply here you don't even agree with the message your video is sending if you think Venomous is better than the Golden Roc. Have you changed your 'opinion' (remember that there is an objective truthful answer at the end of this) after realizing that the impact of Golden Roc is essentially zero to the outcome of a fight? Meanwhile Snowpeak Roc amping the damage of your ENTIRE MARCH instead of just pet damage. Which is more valuable, your pet dealing 100% more damage or your march dealing 1% more damage? It should not be something you need to think about. Hell even 200% more pet damage is not going to equal +1% more unit attack for your entire march it simply isn't. The pets rage skill damage factors are too low, and cast too infrequently. You want to know which 3 skills are the absolute most impactful for your Marksmen march? They're Manic Might, Chain Strike, and Wild Chain Strike. Those three skills put in massive amounts of work. I have seen battle reports where Chain strike was dealing 224 whilst the Wild Chain Strike was hitting for 772. Those activate on the same turn for you wounding around 1000 extra troops on that turn. Also Wild Chain Strike activates on the first turn Chain Strike activates not just every third. So if Chain Strike activates on turn 1, you can take out an extra 1000 troops in the first normal attack volley. Is there anything more impactful than this in a war or a duel? As far as poke damage is concerned (trading damage at a chokepoint) there is nothing better you could hope for. And in a 1v1 duel to the death an early advantage spirals into a win extremely quickly. And you know what pet talent affects those? Concentration, the only pet talent that grants +% attack stat currently in the game. So again, I ask you to take a moment and give it a solid think. The goal of your channel hopefully is to inform people CORRECTLY. It's never too late to admit that you're wrong, and it is impossible to always be right. A significant number of people will watch this video and I should hope that your desire is that you haven't told them something that will affect them negatively. Don't prove me wrong
@@Zlysium No I like your comment , I did more testing today. I did make the assumption that the marksman would trigger since the elk riders do, but I was wrong. I have pinned a comment on this video now to correct it. I did mention that the veno is good, i think that the snow peak roc is not that great due to its low proc. I will consider what you said about the 1% on legion. I have to see it in comparison to other pet. Do not get me wrong idc if i make mistake , I know I am human, and I know how to admit if I am wrong. Im not some egoistic person.
One way to demonstrate would be to fight the same darkling (type & level) with the same heroes and unit count but different pets and see which finishes the fight faster (due to more damage)
Guys we have done testing before and also live stream it. 😅 test it and if I'm wrong I'll correct myself. Can reach out to me on discord. We all trying to make the space better ❤️
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Update: Mistake on the guide!
ua-cam.com/video/w7K6m7pjSXA/v-deo.html
I assumed made an assumption that since the elk riders was getting the activation of Exuberance that the marksman would also in a range combat, but unfortunately I am human and I made a mistake. But I think the best thing to use is a venomous lizard. I still do think that the Snow Peak Roc due to its probability is not the best unless you get a super high level and get above 75% proc even then you still got a room for error.
Sorry for mistake
Exuberance with golden Roc only works when archers fighting close range enemy sadly.
@@supremeboy yea 😅. Sorry for my error.
We are all struggling to figure out pet skills. Thank you for the content.
@@Nuth22 thanks for understanding. I'll have new video to clear up things
Exuberance does not work on ranged, the only reason your battlereport showed the pets rageskill was b/c it was a melee unit getting close enough to your archer to let your golden roc cast his spell. golden roc is for infantry and cav. ✌
I will retest again I might have assumed it for the elk riders since it's also at a close range. But I will test again and make a updated video.
I agree...but will it work the other way.. when u have pet with meduim range..will jt then work on near range.?
Snow roc concentration works also on the talent tree with kinnara. Snow roc are specially made for kinnara nico or even kinnara hosk
It is but check how often you proc. There's too much limitor
Yes i totally agree with you. But i'm curious to see how much chance super concentration brings.
You didn't take into consideration the range of both skills. Golden rok talent hability has a "near" range. I wouldn't want my marksmen to attack from even closer.
The goal was not for dmg, I hope I was able to explain better. By doing the golden roc you can rely on rage accumulation and cast more skills further. Btw, I've tested golden roc before if you don't have passion u can't convert to dmg. Unless I tested wrong. Pls help double check. Put it on inf if u get dmg. It works on my elk riders wirh bakshi and emrys with springblade
@@Shinchi42Yeah about rage you are right. I meant RANGE, like attack radius.
The golden roc talent hability was meant for cavs. If you run it with marksmen they will attack from closer, just as your elk riders I guess.
So I did a test again.
I was wrong in the video.
The range I assumed bc of elk riders. U don't active exuberance. Sooo I think best is to use veno. I think snow is still not good
@@Shinchi42 with veno lizard, u don't wanna be always targeted just to activate a 12% chance talent skill
Actually the veno lizard proc so much unbelievable. U have to test to see.
Funny. I don't know what troop to main, so I went for the sand lizard by default because it works with anyone.
I did some tests, if you are at maximum attack distance it doesn't work (medium distance for shooters) if you move closer to enter close range it works. But there's no point in archers attacking at maximum distance.

You mean for venomous lizard?
@@Shinchi42I'm talking about exuberance, for elk riders it's perfect because emris and bakshi attack closely so it works, try to do a test with a tank in front and an archery gear behind at a long distance with exuberance, you'll notice that exuberance won't activate..

@@ztxu I believe the dmg is converted bc of passion.
@@ztxu let me test.
@@Shinchi42I believe that exuberance will not make you activate even passion at maximum archer range, so in war it is useless, but I'm waiting for your next video
Hi bro. U think the pet will work with forondill as he also does Deff break on his awakening skill..
What do you think of running gold roc without talent for archers? It has great strength and agility so it will give a good bonus to chain strike and to the crit damage skills. And seems no talent really sinergizes with syndrion
u can do a blank build yea
Venomous lizard i think can be a good option like with kinnara hosk, in the way you spread dots and you apply lot of damage with the counter attack.
I think snow roc with the 2 upgraded of concentration with works well but it will take i damn long Time before it will be good
The proc is so bad. I don't really recommend it.
The second upgrade give more chance to concentration to proc will see later how efficient it is
@@marcbourinet7027 errrrr. Try it. The thing is you need to meet the first requirements then u go through another probability. 😅
I assume you are are invested in snow rok?
No i have a Sand lizard 😂
Just trying to look in the future, to see all the option is possible to have.
Do you know how they calculate when they Say like 0,8% ( dépending on strenght) ?
I don't have exact calculations I've tried but don't match up. Btw update. I'm wrong about golden roc.but I still think the best is not snow roc. Perhaps venomous is better
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Is there any formula how pet stats affect things like the dmg boost of concentration?
nope
In which level i can regenerat pet . don't you have any information.
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i have a question your main talent in your pet is in the second slot
how is this possible? always main talent is first one and also you can not buy as I know main talent
Hi sorry I quit the game.
@@Shinchi42 because need spend lot of money?
@@Lion-ow4br yes and consume so much time in real life. The game sucks you're life. I want a change of life now I'm in my 30s
@@Shinchi42 Well i completely understand. Do you know another game that is like Call of Dragon? except era of Qunquest
I don't like era
@@Lion-ow4br I don't most games that are in this genre will be like this. I'm playing a new game on the channel called Zombie Waves. It's fun play on your own pace
I think only Inf will pretty much do the work with Gold Roc
Bcs if u have Good attribute + 1 Star Feral u can get 45+ rage at lvl60
The cavs work
Spoiler: Golden Roc's talent attack range is Near. So I don't think it will work at range. What u did was a close combat. At range, Golden Roc's talent won't work unless at close combat
Hehe yes. I pinned a comment to correct myself. Also I made a new video. 😅sorry
Kinnara awakend skill has def break no? Nico and kinnara both have def break lol no?
Yes. I mentioned that
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@@Shinchi42 so how are you doing today?
@Shinchi42 You're trying to say that because you get a 100% guaranteed Def Break on Nico Rage skill, plus an additional 10% chance to Def break on each normal attack via Kinnara's Control Tree node Ambush should you be running her as commander, that a 30% chance to deal bonus damage isn't good enough?
Well you'd be right if there was A: a better option and B: if you weren't incorrectly devaluing the first part of Concentration which is the most important factor "+% physical attack determined by Luck"
Firstly the reason why Golden Roc's Exuberance is not a better option.. well really it should have been self evident.
You first argued that the 30% chance to activate was too low, so you traded it for a 0% chance to activate.. ??? This is some kinda logic the current US president might say.
Anyways the Passion +5% rage accumulation speed for 5 seconds is mediocre in a vacuum because you have to understand how rage cycles actually play out.
You didn't activate the Passion until 15 seconds into the battle. Which means for the first 15 seconds of the battle it did exactly N O T H I N G
When it activated it gave you 20 rage (rounded up), and it healed 24 units (Who thought a heal this ineffective was significant?)
Lets break this down per second to make it painfully obvious to anyone reading.
You got 20 rage after 15 seconds. 20 divided by 15 is 1.33 repeating. You got the value of 1.3 rage per second out of this.
And that required a 2 skill investment since you only got that little bit from the Feral Exuberance you have equipped right?
You know you need 1000 rage to cast a rage skill, and you didn't even get this benefit until AFTER the first rage skill cycle?
Anyways do I even need to go further? It's doing basically nothing at all. And for that you also have 0% chance to activate it's damage factor.
Meanwhile you're losing 0.4%, 0.8% or 1.2% bonus physical attack (determined by luck) that would have been amping your damage every, single. ****ing. turn.
As well as an actual chance to do some war pet rage skill damage factor.
You put forward two alternatives, the first was Sand Lizard which is nonsensical because the Sand Lizard heals four legions, so it can be on your infantry and still be healing your Archers.
And the second was the Venomous Lizard which thankfully actually has some merit.
And it just so happens I'd already worked on a build just for this:
Venomous Lizard (Marksmen Kinnara/Hosk Counterattack version) (Basically only useful for t5 players with maxed Hosk, it is strong though)
- Infection (Agility)
- Counterstrike (Endurance)
- Super Infection (Luck)
- Manic Might (Strength)
- Wild Counterstrike (Agility)
- Shieldbreaker (Strength)
- Bristles (Endurance)
- Hit Back (Luck)
Now this build WOULD function.
The problem is that A: does nothing in behemoths or on offense and is purely reactionary and defensive.
And B: it completely loses sight of what the Archers job is supposed to be, which is single target ranged DPS and murdering Mages, the primary threat on the battlefield in any good war. (other than rallies)
Pets are a long term investment already, so you don't tell people to get the pet that's going to be worthless as soon as they progress a little more.
Snowpeak Roc and Sand Lizard are very future-proof because healing 4 marches will be always be useful, same as +% damage amp.
They aren't hero specialized or march specific.
The reason why I would never tell anyone to invest in Berserk Faedrake is because it's very clearly designed around Forondil/Theodore and the next set of cavalry heros that will come out after will certainly find the Berserk Faedrake to be useless.
I highly recommend you put more thought into your video before you blast out this "expert tip" that is steering people to make bad decisions in the long term of their accounts.
There are limits to how much you can invest in your pets, you can only focus on one or two because of the seasonal buy limits and the limited amount of exchange coins you get weekly.
Thank you for reading, and I hope it helps anyone else who watches this video and is thinking of making an equally silly decision.
How u gonna heal ur archers with infantry with sand lizards? 🤔. Your infantry is so far up front while your archers are behind. Good comment for your opinion but agree to disagree that's part of a strategy game. A venomous lizard is probably the best way to go for archers and snow roc is not really that great imo.
@@Shinchi42 A venomous lizard is probably the best? You spent most of the video telling people to use Golden Roc for Exuberance whilst Venomous Lizard was barely a footnote at the end.
And please don't mistake this as some kind of an argument or debate.
Facts are still facts at the end of the day.
You are giving people misinformation, and based on your own reply here you don't even agree with the message your video is sending if you think Venomous is better than the Golden Roc.
Have you changed your 'opinion' (remember that there is an objective truthful answer at the end of this) after realizing that the impact of Golden Roc is essentially zero to the outcome of a fight?
Meanwhile Snowpeak Roc amping the damage of your ENTIRE MARCH instead of just pet damage.
Which is more valuable, your pet dealing 100% more damage or your march dealing 1% more damage?
It should not be something you need to think about.
Hell even 200% more pet damage is not going to equal +1% more unit attack for your entire march it simply isn't.
The pets rage skill damage factors are too low, and cast too infrequently.
You want to know which 3 skills are the absolute most impactful for your Marksmen march?
They're Manic Might, Chain Strike, and Wild Chain Strike.
Those three skills put in massive amounts of work.
I have seen battle reports where Chain strike was dealing 224 whilst the Wild Chain Strike was hitting for 772.
Those activate on the same turn for you wounding around 1000 extra troops on that turn.
Also Wild Chain Strike activates on the first turn Chain Strike activates not just every third.
So if Chain Strike activates on turn 1, you can take out an extra 1000 troops in the first normal attack volley. Is there anything more impactful than this in a war or a duel?
As far as poke damage is concerned (trading damage at a chokepoint) there is nothing better you could hope for.
And in a 1v1 duel to the death an early advantage spirals into a win extremely quickly.
And you know what pet talent affects those? Concentration, the only pet talent that grants +% attack stat currently in the game.
So again, I ask you to take a moment and give it a solid think.
The goal of your channel hopefully is to inform people CORRECTLY.
It's never too late to admit that you're wrong, and it is impossible to always be right.
A significant number of people will watch this video and I should hope that your desire is that you haven't told them something that will affect them negatively.
Don't prove me wrong
@@Zlysium No I like your comment , I did more testing today. I did make the assumption that the marksman would trigger since the elk riders do, but I was wrong. I have pinned a comment on this video now to correct it. I did mention that the veno is good, i think that the snow peak roc is not that great due to its low proc. I will consider what you said about the 1% on legion. I have to see it in comparison to other pet. Do not get me wrong idc if i make mistake , I know I am human, and I know how to admit if I am wrong. Im not some egoistic person.
what pet should i use if im using gwanwyn w/ kregg?
Exuberance only works at close range, not good for shooters...

Exeburance dmg work AT close range but the rage accumulation work.
Actually exuberance form golden rok dmg work on elk riders, you need passion. I've done video on this pls check warpets Playlist.
One way to demonstrate would be to fight the same darkling (type & level) with the same heroes and unit count but different pets and see which finishes the fight faster (due to more damage)
Guys we have done testing before and also live stream it. 😅 test it and if I'm wrong I'll correct myself. Can reach out to me on discord. We all trying to make the space better ❤️
Yes was wrong , since the marksman were medium range it wont work even the rage
Someone saw the guide on discord lmfao
Hi which discord?