Not that many helicopters fly in NYC. If you think helicopter noise is a problem in NYC then you dont live in NYC. Try people blasting music all night and car alarms.
This concept looks appealing, but think it through. In the beginning, when there are a few of these taxis, the air taxis will be able to fly between the pickup sights and airports with no conflicts. But, when the number of air taxis begins to reach the numbers that commuters actually require, I anticipate there will be many circumstances that will cause delays that will make the air taxis service become onerous to use.
Seems like weather would effect their ability to be reliable, also could be dangerous. They will have to prove themselves. There are a bunch of competitors too. It’s better electric though because regular aviation fuel contains lead, so a busy route would be adding another trail of poison through the air. The visual pollution and what if someone hijacked one?
I do not see any issues with delivery of service due to over saturation or demand out pacing available air taxi supply. I know that because such platforms are easily and rapidly scalable, demand can be satisfied simply be bringimg more air taxis online when needed. In addition, I am certain that these companies have already conducted studies and surveys to determine demand, costs to expand/scale up, weather constraints based on area/location, client types and demographic profiles, cost analysis/ROI and more.
I believe the Alpharetta/John's Creek GA area would be a prime market for this type of air taxi service. I see helicopters around here all the time, and ATL airport is 35 miles south.
I’m not too optimistic about these, but I do hope they happen! Very cool. I’m not in the demographic to ever likely use one of these, but I can appreciate how they could be a boon to frequent business travelers.
@@thewholetruth5473 like cars don't make up majority of the noise pollution in cities anyways lol. At least these will be flying at 2000 feet so you can't really hear them
I've often felt one easy thing to do with these types of vehicles is to fly from one municipal/smaller airport to another. I don't know about other metro areas but in LA there are so many of these it could be a form of mass transit people could use and then rideshare or bus the rest of the way.
It's all about the cost the redundancies. First, it will need to be affordable. Second, it will need to be safe and in the battery powered world that means having backups in case there is a failure in one area. Helicopters can, generally, autorotate down safely is there is a loss of power. If an electric VTOL loses power, it crashes. So, if they convince people it's safe, and I know Archer does have back-ups built in and other safety features, and the cost is really only about $100, it should be successful. I'm sure business people will love it. I would gladly ride one.
What about weather issues? Would be a drag to make a reservation and then not able to take off. There are lots of weather events big jets can tolerate, not sure this little craft can do so, too.
Once they start fitting these aircraft with solid-state batteries I will be onboard ready to fly in a heartbeat. The ability to swap out lithium-ion batteries for solid-state batteries will be a must have ability in the future for automobile's and aircraft. 😎
Can’t wait for this! In a couple of years the $100 bill will be shelled out like todays $20 bill because this will be so worth it for sure. No more long days in traffic. However the demand for these vehicles is going to be crazy, so hopefully these Evtol companies can keep up?
@@zachflannery6750 no... dont come to boston... we have enough transportation services here already.. and lets be honest.. uber and lyft along with the commuter rail including taxis already dominate the market.. an airlift taxi doesnt really make sense unless you was going from say boston to Connecticut. other than that they arent really going to make money when there is cheaper alternatives for literally all of new england
@@honestreviewer4864 joby another evtol company is working with uber and delta so everywhere uber operates evtols should as well evtols are coming here that's fact but didn't know if one of the evtols companies are launching right out of the gate here or if it's going to take sometime
They would be very popular from Sydney's Australia new outer western Sydney airport to Sydney CBD , as many airlines will use the new airport because it will be cheaper and no restrictions on landing hours but it's a long haul into Sydney cbd (over a hour). I think quite a few evtol landing points have already been registered in the Sydney cbd and there will be plenty of hype around catching evtols
@@larsharris - Most areas are so built out and up these days, that laying track for trains becomes a tough sell. Ideally, it makes more sense to build tunnels between those two points but tunnels are very expensive & slow to construct.
You know how studies have shown that adding an extra lane to a highway actually increases traffic on the highway with no congestion improvement? I guess we'll try that in 3D now.
When road did not exist they were no road congestion for sure. Induced demand also exist for public transportation and is a not a bad thing in itself: yes if you build more roads (or more train lines) more people may (it is not systematic) use those new roads (or trains) and congestion (or line saturation) may not reduce or even worsen... but you will have more people able to move around, which is kind of the goal.
@@sacha9593It is the goal, which is why single individuals in 4,000 off-road vehicles running around congested areas, just, somehow doesn't seem like the most efficient solution. Call me crazy. Induced demand for public transportation decreases road congestion and you don't even have to build any more lanes. You just run more trans/buses. So, they come more frequently... hmm. Moving individual transportation into the skies seems like it's just shifting the worst of our current transportation options into another dimension. Will we ever learn anything? Or are we just on a market driven berzerk frenzy until we tear ourselves and everything around us apart?
Plus it’s a freaking gorgeous design with a great name as well. It reminds me a lot of a British-based EVTOL company’s design over here with its fluidity and tail shape, and I wish both companies the best of luck. Let’s get this going, for both our nations.
In Europe they've stopped flights that autos can drive in 2 hours because of pollution. People will get their convenient flights back once this e-vtol catches on there. Kudos!
Those things use so much electricity they pollute a lot in energy production (unless it's from green energy production which I'm pretty sure it isn't).
@@miakiceh because right now NYC is powered by only 28% renewable energy. And these taxi drones will be recharging from the NYC grid so, 72% of the energy they use will be non renewable and polluting.
@@Niaaal Possibly... But, you're talking about a future event. "Taxi drones WILL be charging..." That means there is time for NYC to utilize the benefit of Tesla mega-packs, which is one of the quickest remedies. NYC is a rich state and is lagging in green- energy technology... Doesn't that seem suspect to you?
@@miakiceh We are talking about 2025 launch date, that's 2 years. There is no way clean energy gets close to even 35% by that time frame. If you look far in the future, sure why not believe that you'll have nuclear fusion reactors powering the entire US in 150 years. But you won't see NYC with 100% clean energy anytime soon, and these things won't help the planet much more than helicopters
I don't know. If you look at the air sectional maps of the cities cited, LA, MIA, NY, the airspace will become very crowded very fast. If you want an example of how serious this is, smaller drones are entirely banned from NYC even though the FAA restricts small drone flights to 400' nationally.
Drones and electric vehicle motors are no longer new tech. No reason for this not to work. Not only do I see this as being a big business, The spinoff industry will boom. I expect to see air taxi spots all over large cities. Great idea. Until something goes drastically wrong that is. But even then, safer than most city streets or subways.
At most airports there are parking areas/garages and lanes for those arriving/departing by cab or private car, conveniently near the airline travelers favor as well as lanes where travelers can be dropped off near the airlines they fly with. In other words you arrive, get out of the vehicle, pass through the doors and check in. So where would an Archer craft be landing, on top of a vehicle garage? Is there enough space for several such craft with a 40' wingspan? If not, new landing pads would have to be created - which may not be conveniently located - to accommodate these craft., requiring that a traveler walk or take some other ground transportation, which takes time, to get to ticket counters. In total, where is the time savings?
Buy stock now while its under $5 a share. Imagine if you had bought Amazon at $18. You would be living on the beach now. I am an active trader and going to buy it now that United and Stellantis are involved.
No way it's a $100 bucks. That's cheaper than a taxi or Uber and demand will outstrip supply instantly meaning it will be priced at $250+ out the door.
It's electric, so, yes way. It seats 4, so that's $400 per trip. Let's say the average trip is 10min from the helipad to the airport, with 4 passengers going to the airport, and then 4 new passengers board to leave the airport. That's $800 in 20 min (with 4 passengers dropped off at the airport, and 4 picked up.) Repeat the process again, with a 20 min break to recharge the batteries partially. That's 16 fares in 1 hour, so $1600. Run 2 shifts of pilots, with standard 8 hour shifts (1 hour for lunch) and you get 14 hours of flight time per day, or $22,400 per day. (Assuming the remaining 8 hours of the day are used for routine maintenance and cleaning the passenger cabin.) Commercial airline pilots make around $93 per hour and mechanics about $40, so minus $744 for the pilots and $320 for 1 mechanic. That leaves $21,336 for electricity, coolants and profit. Based on Archer's sale to the USAF, each aircraft will cost about $12,000,000. So it would take 563 days, or about 1.5 years, for each aircraft to pay for itself. So with 16 passengers per hour, for 14 hours per day, it is VERY feasible for them to only charge $100 per passenger.
Once one factors in the fact that one will still need to take a rideshare to the vertical takeoff airport that this operates out of, it doesn’t become economically, logistically or financially sensible.
Taking one of these from Napa to SFO which is one of their proposed routes could definitely make sense once you factor in traffic. There's a lot of situations like that.
I can see something like this being succesful to be honest, if they manage to get rides as cheap as $100 and everyone in a group chipping in. It'll work. Also the design doesn't seem the prettiest with the propelers but I assume it would be safer. If one motor dies theres 11 more to ensure a safe landing, also gives better control in those type of environments.
This is an absolutely gorgeous design to say the least, and it definitely looks like it will work, so if it means the first people have to pay $500 before eventually coming down to make sure that the company can properly make sure that this vehicle can get off the ground, I wish them the best of luck.
anyone that has to go from point A to B this fast must be making enough money to pay the 500. time is money bro. remember not everything that comes out new is for everyone. this not design for the average Joe. like the mcdoals worker wanting to get home lol.
So basically it's not that different from a helicopter. It has more propellers, it also needs a qualified pilot and it takes up the same amount of space, only electric
United in 2021: We desperately need the government to bail us out of a financial crisis so we can pay our workers! United in 2022: We've gone all in on somewhat risky new tech, preordering 100 new EV planes and 15 new Boom supersonic Jets!
Lol exactly that's thats why they don't mind dropping millions on new stuff its risk free since its not their money. Look at the 2008 housing crisis banks did the same thing but on a larger scale that effected the economy much more.
I don't get small passenger flying taxis. Like, it is cool, but it's not really something for the masses or something that can be scaled up. Definitely might fit a small niche for the business class though.
Pretty sure that's what it'll be. It'll be a premium service but still cheaper than chartering a helicopter flight so it won't likely be something the average middle income person would do regularly or anything.
Or ride, yeah. But if one of these is 20-30 minutes from where you live and the airport is a 1 hour 20 minutes drive through traffic then maybe a 30 minute drive and a 10 minute flight to the airport doesn't sound so bad if you have the money.
Um we have this. They are called helicopters. They also travel faster and further than EVs and I am gonna trust a turbine engine over something with short battery life….
@@larryscott3982 Ya gotta love the old "we're negotiating with many cities to place our aircraft into service" when they know they're never gonna get an FAA certification other than experimental. Desperate BS leading up to a bankruptcy filing.
@@paulo7200 He pointed out, not waiting for battery tech. As it may move along with prototype, it’s stretch. The united airline’s pre-order needs a fact check. Interest in a future aircraft is not deal made. ‘Introducing the First production aircraft’ … although there’s no production. And his closet: there are none flying. (Just the 1/2 size experimental)
Or, rather, just use an airship instead, like Air Rostrum is doing in 2026. A piddly 4 passengers is 25 times less than what that airline’s electric airship can carry.
CNET pitch meeting- “Should we do air taxis, fusion breakthrough, or AI taking everyone’s jobs?” “How about ‘Real-life Iron Man? People love that one!” “Doesn’t matter, as long as we get the clicks. You pick.”
This is a great idea. It should definitely be a thing... At least it should be a preliminary thing, till the arrival of a more integrated fast transportation solution arrives, like Hyperloop. And even after the release of fx. Hyperloop, some rich folk will definitely still prefer their own flight than public transport.
the reason places like newyork and cali are congested is due to purposeful inconvenience based architecture meant to intentionally inconvenience people to “encourage” them to take public transportation. thats what liberal policy making does
What are some of the hurdles you had mentioned at the end of the video? Great video btw and i would love to have this service from San Francisco to SFO, OAK and SJC.
Probably loads of (successful) testing and flight hours on the production model before certification for passenger flights. Companies promise a timeline, but usually pie-in-the sky (see: Theranos).
getting FAA approval seems to be the biggest hurdle for these. The tech is there and since these things fly the infrastructure isnt super hard to build since it will mostly be figuring out flight paths and designating landing areas.
Good luck getting clearance to land this in the middle of a big city. There once was a heliport on the top of the PanAm building, which had to close after a helicopter fell and killed people. It's also a gimmick (for the rich) who think that this is somehow sustain-a-bull. Hint: minerals are finite and the biggest source of electricity is natural gas, which is running out, although it's impolite to say that. We're not going to replace aviation with electric planes. Newark also has a train station with a quick connection to Manhattan, much faster than driving during the day.
Maybe, if it is flown below a certain altitude, a pilot's license may not be required (There are currently certain types of aircraft and helicopters, that do not require the pilot to be licensed).
@@ChandraNYC agree but it could def be better; there were plans to build more but NYC said "OK NJ then pay up this amount" NYC is very picky... now this only helps ppl that live in Manhattan. Having a drone taking u to Newark airport is such a good help but sadly it's something i wont ever use because more than 50% of ppl fly from JFK not from newark
We can’t have nice things like that in USA bc the protected class who must remain unmentioned will commit crimes on public transport and go Scott free. Case in point - all the people in NYC being pushed from subway platforms.
Won’t see this in an airliner until we see high performance batteries that are light weight. So what is the performance in this aircraft? How long will it last during the day before requiring a charge? Or how many flights per charge? What is the minimum battery charge before the trip is canceled? What is the requirement battery % in bad weather? As tech improves the services will improve.
That black model looks real nice looking
With the current noise pollution of 5 to 10 helicopters flying over New York every hour, electric flying options would be a quieter welcome.
Larger blades produce more lift at lower speeds, meaning less noise. So a helicopter produces less noise pollution than this
@@mattbrew11 The supersonic or near supersonic rotor tip speed is what generates the majority of noise, not the engine
@@mattbrew11 so you hear that over the skies of NYC ? If you wanna be edgy with your answer, make sure it's smart as well.
You’re in the wrong part of the world if you want peace and quiet !
Not that many helicopters fly in NYC. If you think helicopter noise is a problem in NYC then you dont live in NYC. Try people blasting music all night and car alarms.
Yes, here in Ventura, CA. for flights to Los Angeles.
this thing looks beautiful 🖤🖤🖤
Awesome but would like to know, can Archer's pivoting motors handle Winter weather, or will the slightest hint of Winter precip ground em?
Looks interesting, let’s see how the commercial approvals go😊
Fascinating technology. I’m casting my vote for San Francisco SFO Airport to Napa.
That's in the plans with a hub in South San Francisco and flights to Napa, Oakland, San Jose, and Livermore
This concept looks appealing, but think it through. In the beginning, when there are a few of these taxis, the air taxis will be able to fly between the pickup sights and airports with no conflicts. But, when the number of air taxis begins to reach the numbers that commuters actually require, I anticipate there will be many circumstances that will cause delays that will make the air taxis service become onerous to use.
Seems like weather would effect their ability to be reliable, also could be dangerous. They will have to prove themselves. There are a bunch of competitors too. It’s better electric though because regular aviation fuel contains lead, so a busy route would be adding another trail of poison through the air.
The visual pollution
and what if someone hijacked one?
I do not see any issues with delivery of service due to over saturation or demand out pacing available air taxi supply. I know that because such platforms are easily and rapidly scalable, demand can be satisfied simply be bringimg more air taxis online when needed. In addition, I am certain that these companies have already conducted studies and surveys to determine demand, costs to expand/scale up, weather constraints based on area/location, client types and demographic profiles, cost analysis/ROI and more.
Future versions will probably be much larger and able to carry more passengers at a time, thus alleviating the traffic problem.
The noise they make will be incredibly loud.
@@thewholetruth5473 you're commenting the same thing over and over. They fly at 2000 feet in the air, stop complaining
Yes bring it on.
We need this in PHX to get to TUC & vice-versa!
Need = Business Opportunity
Yes please! Bring it to Charlotte NC
It’s just a prototype and first expected delivery of a function model is 2025. I won’t hold my breath for this one
Bring it on!
Lets go! We should be living like the Jetsons
I believe the Alpharetta/John's Creek GA area would be a prime market for this type of air taxi service. I see helicopters around here all the time, and ATL airport is 35 miles south.
We recently announced our manufacturing facility will be located in Covington, GA, so we'll be nearby...
I’m not too optimistic about these, but I do hope they happen! Very cool. I’m not in the demographic to ever likely use one of these, but I can appreciate how they could be a boon to frequent business travelers.
Boon? Definitely a BOOMER!
get on a helicopter... its basically the same thing but louder
If we allow this it will grow and the noise will be terrible and constant. They might be a little less noisy than helicopters but still VERY noisy.
@@fr21_org These are still very, very loud though. Just a little bit less than incredibly loud helicopters.
@@thewholetruth5473 like cars don't make up majority of the noise pollution in cities anyways lol. At least these will be flying at 2000 feet so you can't really hear them
Yes, yes. San Diego to LAX
I think many people would like one for commercial or non-commercial use, outside of the airline industry.
I've often felt one easy thing to do with these types of vehicles is to fly from one municipal/smaller airport to another. I don't know about other metro areas but in LA there are so many of these it could be a form of mass transit people could use and then rideshare or bus the rest of the way.
imagine drunk driving but in the sky XD
It's all about the cost the redundancies. First, it will need to be affordable. Second, it will need to be safe and in the battery powered world that means having backups in case there is a failure in one area. Helicopters can, generally, autorotate down safely is there is a loss of power. If an electric VTOL loses power, it crashes. So, if they convince people it's safe, and I know Archer does have back-ups built in and other safety features, and the cost is really only about $100, it should be successful. I'm sure business people will love it. I would gladly ride one.
Safety is the priority... Extensive testing without incident!
Can they even autorotate like a helicopter if they lose power?
What about weather issues? Would be a drag to make a reservation and then not able to take off. There are lots of weather events big jets can tolerate, not sure this little craft can do so, too.
Agree, as much I absolutely love seeing this "finally" coming to fruition, I can see weather (especially winter weather) being an issue.
A huge drone taxi for public transport!!!!!!!!!!.😮😮😮😃😃😃👍👍👍
yay, let's get it
So 12 motors and only 1/2 of them are running during forward flight? Isn't that a lot of dead weight and added drag?
Something tells me it won't pick you up at your front door like an Uber. If you first have to drive to this flying taxi, how much time are you saving?
wait till they slim down with new battery tech, you'll be seeing one land in your drive way then
Once they start fitting these aircraft with solid-state batteries I will be onboard ready to fly in a heartbeat.
The ability to swap out lithium-ion batteries for solid-state batteries will be a must have ability in the future for automobile's and aircraft.
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Can’t wait for this! In a couple of years the $100 bill will be shelled out like todays $20 bill because this will be so worth it for sure. No more long days in traffic. However the demand for these vehicles is going to be crazy, so hopefully these Evtol companies can keep up?
Hope there is no mid air collisions when urban sky gets swarmed with these. Not sure who will be there to ticket them.
This is supposed to be cheaper than buying an airplane ticket... But you can guarantee capitalism will drive the price up
Couldn't agree more. It's the convenience factor.
Couple of years there won’t be anything left for you
If the African mines can supply all the batteries needed. Then yes, maybe
Forget wanting a taxi service, I want the plane!
Please make more of this transportation technology so all the cities of the world can benefit from this future tech.
We plan on coming to market in 2025 and scaling our service from there!
@@ArcherAviation will you guys be in the Boston area in 2025 or will it take more time.
@@zachflannery6750 no... dont come to boston... we have enough transportation services here already..
and lets be honest.. uber and lyft along with the commuter rail including taxis already dominate the market..
an airlift taxi doesnt really make sense unless you was going from say boston to Connecticut. other than that they arent really going to make money when there is cheaper alternatives for literally all of new england
@@honestreviewer4864 joby another evtol company is working with uber and delta so everywhere uber operates evtols should as well evtols are coming here that's fact but didn't know if one of the evtols companies are launching right out of the gate here or if it's going to take sometime
@@honestreviewer4864 - The point of Air Taxis is to reduce road congestion & also reduce commute times between major urban destinations.
They would be very popular from Sydney's Australia new outer western Sydney airport to Sydney CBD , as many airlines will use the new airport because it will be cheaper and no restrictions on landing hours but it's a long haul into Sydney cbd (over a hour). I think quite a few evtol landing points have already been registered in the Sydney cbd and there will be plenty of hype around catching evtols
Not knowing landscape, issues…. Would a train be an option? Or built up area?
@@larsharris - Most areas are so built out and up these days, that laying track for trains becomes a tough sell. Ideally, it makes more sense to build tunnels between those two points but tunnels are very expensive & slow to construct.
You know how studies have shown that adding an extra lane to a highway actually increases traffic on the highway with no congestion improvement? I guess we'll try that in 3D now.
When road did not exist they were no road congestion for sure.
Induced demand also exist for public transportation and is a not a bad thing in itself: yes if you build more roads (or more train lines) more people may (it is not systematic) use those new roads (or trains) and congestion (or line saturation) may not reduce or even worsen... but you will have more people able to move around, which is kind of the goal.
@@sacha9593It is the goal, which is why single individuals in 4,000 off-road vehicles running around congested areas, just, somehow doesn't seem like the most efficient solution. Call me crazy.
Induced demand for public transportation decreases road congestion and you don't even have to build any more lanes. You just run more trans/buses. So, they come more frequently... hmm.
Moving individual transportation into the skies seems like it's just shifting the worst of our current transportation options into another dimension. Will we ever learn anything? Or are we just on a market driven berzerk frenzy until we tear ourselves and everything around us apart?
@@arpad9You need to relax, man.
@@Strideo1 Of all the things you don't know, which I guess are plenty, you especially don't know what I need.
@@arpad9 Sounds like something someone who needs to relax would say.
The bigger hurdle is airspace routing and congestion. Air traffic controllers will be overwhelmed.
How does it handle airframe icing conditions?
Probably has electric anti-ice (everything MUST be electric!!) which hastens the moment of battery exhaustion and plunging to the ground.
United and others put in more money in August. It just got FAA certification. Focus is on the right thing, economies of scale. Seems like a winner.
I never imagined so many people assumed Jetson's Jets would be steam powered.
I would love to fly in that
NYC definitely needs Archer’s Midnight evtol
Plus it’s a freaking gorgeous design with a great name as well. It reminds me a lot of a British-based EVTOL company’s design over here with its fluidity and tail shape, and I wish both companies the best of luck. Let’s get this going, for both our nations.
In Europe they've stopped flights that autos can drive in 2 hours because of pollution.
People will get their convenient flights back once this e-vtol catches on there. Kudos!
Those things use so much electricity they pollute a lot in energy production (unless it's from green energy production which I'm pretty sure it isn't).
@@Niaaal How could you be certain that they're not powered by green- energy during this age; where most countries are adopting green- energy policies?
@@miakiceh because right now NYC is powered by only 28% renewable energy. And these taxi drones will be recharging from the NYC grid so, 72% of the energy they use will be non renewable and polluting.
@@Niaaal Possibly... But, you're talking about a future event. "Taxi drones WILL be charging..."
That means there is time for NYC to utilize the benefit of Tesla mega-packs, which is one of the quickest remedies.
NYC is a rich state and is lagging in green- energy technology... Doesn't that seem suspect to you?
@@miakiceh We are talking about 2025 launch date, that's 2 years. There is no way clean energy gets close to even 35% by that time frame. If you look far in the future, sure why not believe that you'll have nuclear fusion reactors powering the entire US in 150 years. But you won't see NYC with 100% clean energy anytime soon, and these things won't help the planet much more than helicopters
I don't know. If you look at the air sectional maps of the cities cited, LA, MIA, NY, the airspace will become very crowded very fast. If you want an example of how serious this is, smaller drones are entirely banned from NYC even though the FAA restricts small drone flights to 400' nationally.
Drones and electric vehicle motors are no longer new tech. No reason for this not to work.
Not only do I see this as being a big business, The spinoff industry will boom.
I expect to see air taxi spots all over large cities. Great idea. Until something goes drastically wrong that is. But even then, safer than most city streets or subways.
Cities like NYC, LA, and Vegas would benefit from this
At most airports there are parking areas/garages and lanes for those arriving/departing by cab or private car, conveniently near the airline travelers favor as well as lanes where travelers can be dropped off near the airlines they fly with. In other words you arrive, get out of the vehicle, pass through the doors and check in.
So where would an Archer craft be landing, on top of a vehicle garage? Is there enough space for several such craft with a 40' wingspan? If not, new landing pads would have to be created - which may not be conveniently located - to accommodate these craft., requiring that a traveler walk or take some other ground transportation, which takes time, to get to ticket counters. In total, where is the time savings?
At SFO they want to build a landing facility about 10-15 minutes away from the airport out on the waterfront in South San Francisco.
Joby aviation's S4 eVTOL seems like it's a much more promising venture since they have more heavy investors behind it.
im so freaking exited
Excited to take one to EWR
I like Joby aviation’s version much better so far
An opportunity to have fewer cars on the highway.
Great video 👍
I’ll check back in 2030, gl with the faa
Buy stock now while its under $5 a share. Imagine if you had bought Amazon at $18. You would be living on the beach now. I am an active trader and going to buy it now that United and Stellantis are involved.
Agreed. I’m in at $2.94. Closed at $3.89. Up 32% so far. Long ACHR w/ 1500 shares. But, my last name is Archer (no relation) I had to. 😂
No way it's a $100 bucks. That's cheaper than a taxi or Uber and demand will outstrip supply instantly meaning it will be priced at $250+ out the door.
It's electric, so, yes way. It seats 4, so that's $400 per trip. Let's say the average trip is 10min from the helipad to the airport, with 4 passengers going to the airport, and then 4 new passengers board to leave the airport. That's $800 in 20 min (with 4 passengers dropped off at the airport, and 4 picked up.) Repeat the process again, with a 20 min break to recharge the batteries partially. That's 16 fares in 1 hour, so $1600. Run 2 shifts of pilots, with standard 8 hour shifts (1 hour for lunch) and you get 14 hours of flight time per day, or $22,400 per day. (Assuming the remaining 8 hours of the day are used for routine maintenance and cleaning the passenger cabin.) Commercial airline pilots make around $93 per hour and mechanics about $40, so minus $744 for the pilots and $320 for 1 mechanic. That leaves $21,336 for electricity, coolants and profit. Based on Archer's sale to the USAF, each aircraft will cost about $12,000,000. So it would take 563 days, or about 1.5 years, for each aircraft to pay for itself. So with 16 passengers per hour, for 14 hours per day, it is VERY feasible for them to only charge $100 per passenger.
Once one factors in the fact that one will still need to take a rideshare to the vertical takeoff airport that this operates out of, it doesn’t become economically, logistically or financially sensible.
Taking one of these from Napa to SFO which is one of their proposed routes could definitely make sense once you factor in traffic. There's a lot of situations like that.
I can see something like this being succesful to be honest, if they manage to get rides as cheap as $100 and everyone in a group chipping in. It'll work. Also the design doesn't seem the prettiest with the propelers but I assume it would be safer. If one motor dies theres 11 more to ensure a safe landing, also gives better control in those type of environments.
I doubt it will be this cheap... I can see them asking for $100 per passenger.
Yes $100 per person is more like it. It won’t be $25 each person. This is a luxury.
Air traffic control costs are not considered here.
Them saying the price is $100 is like ticketmaster telling you the price is $100
By the looks of things, most likely $100 per passenger. Got to take into account that fossile fuels will still be charging those batteries.
how many plus-sized passengers can it carry? asking for a friend.
Awesome! But it's gonna be more like $500 not $100 - at least to start.
This is an absolutely gorgeous design to say the least, and it definitely looks like it will work, so if it means the first people have to pay $500 before eventually coming down to make sure that the company can properly make sure that this vehicle can get off the ground, I wish them the best of luck.
anyone that has to go from point A to B this fast must be making enough money to pay the 500. time is money bro. remember not everything that comes out new is for everyone. this not design for the average Joe. like the mcdoals worker wanting to get home lol.
So basically it's not that different from a helicopter. It has more propellers, it also needs a qualified pilot and it takes up the same amount of space, only electric
United in 2021: We desperately need the government to bail us out of a financial crisis so we can pay our workers!
United in 2022: We've gone all in on somewhat risky new tech, preordering 100 new EV planes and 15 new Boom supersonic Jets!
Lol exactly that's thats why they don't mind dropping millions on new stuff its risk free since its not their money. Look at the 2008 housing crisis banks did the same thing but on a larger scale that effected the economy much more.
Absolutely!
I saw them in the new Robocop movie
I don't get small passenger flying taxis. Like, it is cool, but it's not really something for the masses or something that can be scaled up. Definitely might fit a small niche for the business class though.
Pretty sure that's what it'll be. It'll be a premium service but still cheaper than chartering a helicopter flight so it won't likely be something the average middle income person would do regularly or anything.
Yes, we need it in lagos, Nigeria
Doesn’t you still have to drive to the location to take the taki?
Or ride, yeah. But if one of these is 20-30 minutes from where you live and the airport is a 1 hour 20 minutes drive through traffic then maybe a 30 minute drive and a 10 minute flight to the airport doesn't sound so bad if you have the money.
Um we have this. They are called helicopters. They also travel faster and further than EVs and I am gonna trust a turbine engine over something with short battery life….
Cost is the key, I think by 2025 we will have healthy competition
The sooner the better
This is totally incredible.
Exactly - Not credible.
Incredible. Right. I ain’t buying this infomercial of vapor ware.
@@larryscott3982 Ya gotta love the old "we're negotiating with many cities to place our aircraft into service" when they know they're never gonna get an FAA certification other than experimental. Desperate BS leading up to a bankruptcy filing.
@@paulo7200
He pointed out, not waiting for battery tech. As it may move along with prototype, it’s stretch. The united airline’s pre-order needs a fact check. Interest in a future aircraft is not deal made.
‘Introducing the First production aircraft’ … although there’s no production. And his closet: there are none flying. (Just the 1/2 size experimental)
helicopters are better until solid-state batteries pop up (almost there). when that happens these babies will be cheaper to maintain and run
They should add modularity to add a airship-like balloon on it in order to extend its range before going to mass production.
That's... Not the worst idea in the world...
Or, rather, just use an airship instead, like Air Rostrum is doing in 2026. A piddly 4 passengers is 25 times less than what that airline’s electric airship can carry.
How fast will this recharge for its 10 minute flight ?
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Pretty slick I think it’s gonna be a hit in the bay area
Our HQ is in Santa Clara, so...
The area needed looks fairly large
Lets be real, when they say "you could" they are talking to the people that make more than 300k a year and can afford the ride...
As much as I'm for this, and fully want it to work out, I can see this being one of those, "Remember when they tried THAT?"
What is the overall weight capacity for this vehicle. How much luggage can each passenger take?
Midnight will have 1,000+ lbs of payload.
This is a great idea.
It should definitely be a thing... At least it should be a preliminary thing, till the arrival of a more integrated fast transportation solution arrives, like Hyperloop.
And even after the release of fx. Hyperloop, some rich folk will definitely still prefer their own flight than public transport.
Then the ground and sky will be busy and crowded.....
Shut up
the reason places like newyork and cali are congested is due to purposeful inconvenience based architecture meant to intentionally inconvenience people to “encourage” them to take public transportation. thats what liberal policy making does
An air traffic control nightmare!
@@gregkramer5588 Yep, I don't see this being realistic.
It will be autonomous. this should rescue some ground traffic and put it in the air. There's tons of room in the air, just look up
It’s for people who go to the city and need a ride to the airport or vice versa? Not really for locals
What's it called?
The mosquito?
BRING ARCHER TO DENVER COLORADO!
Chicago already has trains from downtown into both airports. Why not improve those trains instead?
Will it fly from the Pan Am (MetLife) building?
I think it’s banned because the winds are too unpredictable.
I'd love to take one of these from LAX to JWA!
FYI - ACHR (Archer Aviation stock is 2 bucks right now....) This is not advice at all - just saying.
2 bucks going to zero.
Designer: How many propellers do you want?
Owner: Yes.
What are some of the hurdles you had mentioned at the end of the video? Great video btw and i would love to have this service from San Francisco to SFO, OAK and SJC.
Probably loads of (successful) testing and flight hours on the production model before certification for passenger flights. Companies promise a timeline, but usually pie-in-the sky (see: Theranos).
getting FAA approval seems to be the biggest hurdle for these. The tech is there and since these things fly the infrastructure isnt super hard to build since it will mostly be figuring out flight paths and designating landing areas.
I watched the video again, it is absolutely beautiful !
Good luck getting clearance to land this in the middle of a big city. There once was a heliport on the top of the PanAm building, which had to close after a helicopter fell and killed people. It's also a gimmick (for the rich) who think that this is somehow sustain-a-bull. Hint: minerals are finite and the biggest source of electricity is natural gas, which is running out, although it's impolite to say that. We're not going to replace aviation with electric planes. Newark also has a train station with a quick connection to Manhattan, much faster than driving during the day.
A solution in search of a problem. Just build trains.
This is crazy cool.
I would love to have one as a private air transport vehicle (PAT-V). And also, what are the pilot training requirements for Midnight?
Autonomous buddy, no pilot required
@@K4R3N Yes you can bet that a pilot will be required.
@@TreeLBollingTreeMan Maybe for this company but others are doing this autonomous
Maybe, if it is flown below a certain altitude, a pilot's license may not be required (There are currently certain types of aircraft and helicopters, that do not require the pilot to be licensed).
They will require a commercial pilot for flying passengers, cargo might be automated.
1000 per kilometer?
surely this will be a reality someday as early as 2025 and not just some cg video and marketing to get some investment money
Brilliant 👍🏼
A 10 minute flight: plus a half hour to get to the vtol port, plus a half hour wait for its scheduled departure time = same time as an Uber.
or what if you connected Towns and Cities with Rail and Light rail?!
same moving people power that's less crash prone.
tell that to NYC.... that city is so picky when it comes to regulations...
@@onYaFace2023 There is train service to Newark Int'l. Airport from NYC.
@@ChandraNYC agree but it could def be better; there were plans to build more but NYC said "OK NJ then pay up this amount" NYC is very picky... now this only helps ppl that live in Manhattan. Having a drone taking u to Newark airport is such a good help but sadly it's something i wont ever use because more than 50% of ppl fly from JFK not from newark
We can’t have nice things like that in USA bc the protected class who must remain unmentioned will commit crimes on public transport and go Scott free. Case in point - all the people in NYC being pushed from subway platforms.
embrace the eagle my son, flying is the American way.
I’m all about it great new technology
They already have a service that takes you from a heliport to the airport in NYC
Very awesome!
Won’t see this in an airliner until we see high performance batteries that are light weight.
So what is the performance in this aircraft? How long will it last during the day before requiring a charge? Or how many flights per charge?
What is the minimum battery charge before the trip is canceled? What is the requirement battery % in bad weather?
As tech improves the services will improve.
Looking forward to a 5th element air traffic with these evtol. At least they will be quiet. Just need now a blue colored opera singer. 😄👍