Steam Engine Gear 3: Cutting Keyways and Dowel Pinning the Bevel Gear

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  • @TomokosEnterprize
    @TomokosEnterprize 2 місяці тому +1

    Great show today Keith. Always a pleasure to visit with you.

  • @thirzapeevey2395
    @thirzapeevey2395 Рік тому

    Not only do I like your videos every time, I frequently share them in homeschool groups to get kids interested.

  • @migueltorres6073
    @migueltorres6073 Рік тому +1

    Thank You Keith for detailed account of keeping “old iron” running

  • @MrRogsmart
    @MrRogsmart Рік тому +1

    Another good one Keith. Thanks

  • @BillB23
    @BillB23 Рік тому +9

    My dad started his career as an apprentice machinist. I appreciate the opportunity to get a clue as to what he did before the war. He retired as Director of Manufacturing Engineering at Lithonia Lighting, so the Georgia connection is icing on the cake. Thanks for tripling your work load to make these videos.

  • @normsweet1710
    @normsweet1710 Рік тому +2

    Thank You Keith for detailed account of keeping “old iron” running 👍❤️

  • @oldfister7460
    @oldfister7460 Рік тому

    I used to work for Cincinnati Gilbert for a couple of years, my wifes uncle worked there also as a foreman, I really appreciate your and all the other's creaters content of your video's.

  • @andrewgill4390
    @andrewgill4390 Рік тому

    That,s a thumbs from me I appreciate the time you put into the videos thank you Keith

  • @mudnducs
    @mudnducs Рік тому +1

    THAT, is a satisfying thing of beauty.

  • @monkeyboy4746
    @monkeyboy4746 Рік тому +36

    I wonder if the key was supposed to be the "weak" part, someone adding the cut-off drill bits later took that away, so instead of the key shearing, the drill bits allowed the gear teeth to be sheared away instead.

    • @RobertBrown-lf8yq
      @RobertBrown-lf8yq Рік тому +8

      Hmmmmm…..
      Although I can’t see a .400” (steel ?) key shearing before a cast iron gear tooth…
      Robert

    • @paulsilva3346
      @paulsilva3346 Рік тому +3

      I agree completely, with my experience with Machinery I went straight to that as the source and the root of the problem

    • @noelhenderson7337
      @noelhenderson7337 Рік тому +1

      I would think that the pins would be better for, well, shear pins, than a cast in key. They can be replaced whereas the key would need to be milled off and another key way cut into the bevel gear. I am suspecting a field modification of some sort though. I grew up in farm country.

    • @douglasrogers3918
      @douglasrogers3918 Рік тому +3

      Sounds right and the 400 thou sounds like it was a 10mm key!

    • @ellieprice363
      @ellieprice363 Рік тому

      I would bet it was a double guarantee that the two gears would stay together. The cast gear teeth proved to be the weak points in this assembly.

  • @terminalpsychosis8022
    @terminalpsychosis8022 Рік тому +2

    Thing of beauty. That's going to last far longer that trying to piece the old part together. It's just so satisfying too. For sure peace of mind knowing that piece is new and precision made by Mr. Rucker. As always, lovin these projects, large to small, and inbetween.

  • @scrivyscriv
    @scrivyscriv Рік тому

    I've been looking forward to seeing this part!

  • @SciPunk215
    @SciPunk215 Рік тому +1

    Awesome!! Scratch this one off the list!
    I hope we can see some video of this steam engine somewhere down the line.

  • @stuartschaffner9744
    @stuartschaffner9744 Рік тому +2

    That was really fun to watch, Keith. It's fun to speculate why the biggest gear sheared rather than the smaller, and whether that was designed to be that way. All I can add is to speculate that the smaller gear, having a bevel geometry, takes more setup time to grind. Hence it is the more valuable part.

  • @CameronMcCreary
    @CameronMcCreary Рік тому +4

    Keith that is a beautiful job you've done making the gear. Those coaxial indicators are great to work with for bore location. It basically turns your milling machine into a precision boring machine.

  • @michaelkoch2109
    @michaelkoch2109 Рік тому

    Good job! Best regards from Dresden! 👍👏❤🛠😎

  • @MickHealey
    @MickHealey Рік тому +3

    Really nice job Keith. Your customer should be really happy with that.

  • @andrewrussellmalcolm
    @andrewrussellmalcolm Рік тому +9

    Fantastic work, as always, and very well explained

  • @rexmyers991
    @rexmyers991 Рік тому

    Most impressive work. Thank you, Sir

  • @LanceMcGrew
    @LanceMcGrew Рік тому +1

    46+ years in machining and first time seeing a co-axial indicator. Good grief why so late to the game. That is slick !!!

  • @bcbloc02
    @bcbloc02 Рік тому

    Turned out great!

  • @craykewindsor2634
    @craykewindsor2634 Рік тому

    Enjoyed watching this. Perhaps cutting a helical gear in another vid. Thanks very much.

  • @ramshackle9876
    @ramshackle9876 Рік тому +3

    Thanks Keith. Great content as usual .

  • @LM-sc8lu
    @LM-sc8lu Рік тому +1

    I’m always impressed with your work!

  • @johncloar1692
    @johncloar1692 Рік тому +3

    Nice job Keith, it look like a work of are. Thanks for sharing the video.

  • @melshea2519
    @melshea2519 Рік тому +1

    Happy Friday 😊

  • @rc166honda
    @rc166honda Рік тому

    Great work, thoroughly enjoyed this.

  • @joopterwijn
    @joopterwijn Рік тому +1

    Nice job Keith! It looks so simple, but that’s because you have a ton of experience!

  • @lecnac855
    @lecnac855 Рік тому +1

    Well done as usual.

  • @tropifiori
    @tropifiori Рік тому +4

    The finished part is very pretty really. If it were stainless you could use it as a machinists hood ornament .

  • @geraldharkness8830
    @geraldharkness8830 Рік тому +1

    fantastic keith love to see you make gears!

  • @thewarlordscalling6537
    @thewarlordscalling6537 Рік тому

    Thank you

  • @geckoproductions4128
    @geckoproductions4128 Рік тому

    Very interesting, well done.

  • @thom3124
    @thom3124 Рік тому

    Good morning. Very nice project.

  • @oleran4569
    @oleran4569 Рік тому +1

    Nice job!

  • @michaelsimpson9779
    @michaelsimpson9779 Рік тому

    Nice work as always

  • @edsmachine93
    @edsmachine93 Рік тому +1

    Nice work Keith.
    Excellent job.
    Thanks for sharing. 👍

  • @roylucas1027
    @roylucas1027 Рік тому +2

    Great job! Enjoyed each and every step.

  • @Rog_Ramjet
    @Rog_Ramjet Рік тому +2

    I love to watch your work as an apprenticed engineering designer so I ask the question why it appears that the dowels are proud after being pressed home.

  • @walterplummer3808
    @walterplummer3808 Рік тому

    Good morning Keith. Nice job. thanks for the videos.

  • @recycokid
    @recycokid Рік тому +1

    Really nice work Keith. Thanks for sharing.

  • @TheUncleRuckus
    @TheUncleRuckus Рік тому

    Great video as always Keith! 👍👍

  • @bjdiss
    @bjdiss Рік тому +2

    You might consider Loctite 609 or 620 for this application. These are retaining compounds as opposed to thread lockers.

  • @RobertFay
    @RobertFay Рік тому +1

    *- Keith, at **18:49** I am sure the pin is below the bottom of the gear's cut, but it sure does not look like it is on the video.*

  • @williamdavis7094
    @williamdavis7094 Рік тому

    thank you I really appreciate what you do

  • @AlmostMachining
    @AlmostMachining Рік тому

    Great job Keith!

  • @DynamicSeq
    @DynamicSeq Рік тому

    Very satisfying to watch. Thanks for sharing..

  • @grandpaseed
    @grandpaseed Рік тому +1

    I saw a video of some people still manufacturing band saws like the jimmy you are working on. interesting to see. can not put the link directly in comments but if you search for the term (Largest Cutter Machine Making Process | How Unusal Big Cutter Machine Are Made ) you will find it . thanks!

  • @tonyjones9715
    @tonyjones9715 Рік тому

    Thanks for another great job and video.

  • @waynekeeler1442
    @waynekeeler1442 Рік тому

    Nice job

  • @elsdp-4560
    @elsdp-4560 Рік тому

    Thank you for sharing👍

  • @Sagacity61
    @Sagacity61 Рік тому

    Brilliant. Thanks.

  • @davidpainter4437
    @davidpainter4437 Рік тому

    Another great video. Thank You!!

  • @csnelling4
    @csnelling4 Рік тому

    Thank you Keith , brilliant job 👌🥇😊

  • @dcobel60
    @dcobel60 Рік тому

    As a young child i enjoyed watching "Mr. Rodgers" of the famous "Mr. Rodgers Neighborhood",,,,,,,,, it has just hit me that Keith is the embodiment of that show only in Metal! LMAO!!!

  • @scottthomas5999
    @scottthomas5999 Рік тому

    Nice job on the gear!!

  • @waynephillips2777
    @waynephillips2777 Рік тому

    Awesome job! I learn something every time I watch.

  • @billsmith8739
    @billsmith8739 Рік тому

    Looks good!! Also liking your weight lost !!

  • @marksigmon8388
    @marksigmon8388 Рік тому

    Beautiful work!

  • @scottkarjala
    @scottkarjala Рік тому

    now that's a arbor press!

  • @CraigLYoung
    @CraigLYoung Рік тому

    Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @P61guy61
    @P61guy61 Рік тому

    Thank you for sharing this

  • @shortribslongbow5312
    @shortribslongbow5312 Рік тому

    Beautiful work, thanks for sharing. :o)

  • @kennethstandley3178
    @kennethstandley3178 Рік тому +2

    I often wish I could see the parts you build reinstalled, and the repaired device then returned to operation.

  • @fireantsarestrange
    @fireantsarestrange Рік тому

    Nice work bud.

  • @stancloyd
    @stancloyd Рік тому

    good job.

  • @GrahamY1970
    @GrahamY1970 Рік тому +3

    Thnks for your videos, I really enjoy them. In this case with the coax indicator, I was under the impression that you can't use the actual divisions to mean anything due to the various lengths and angles you can set the pointer to (different lever lengths and cosine errors etc). Basically you are just after the least movement. I guess that if you DO want to know how far off you are in absolute numbers then you would have to rest the pointer on an edge and then move the table by a known amount to see what that know amount means on the dial with the angle used and the length of the pointer. Or am I misunderstanding how they work?

    • @ellieprice363
      @ellieprice363 Рік тому

      It would work just as well without numbers on the dial. All you’re looking for is the needle not moving.

  • @williamsquires3070
    @williamsquires3070 Рік тому

    I’d say those gear teeth are lined up dead nuts. 😊

  • @keithroper7056
    @keithroper7056 Рік тому

    Impressive.

  • @theoroma6883
    @theoroma6883 Рік тому +1

    I would like to say how healthy you look with your weight loss.
    Thanks for your interesting videos.

  • @mrkevinp70
    @mrkevinp70 Рік тому

    ((BOOM)) Crushed it 👍

  • @frankinpattaya
    @frankinpattaya Рік тому +2

    Keith,, nice job on the gear cutting,,, any news on the steam stoker rebuild,,or has it been finished and I missed it. ?? Regards Frank

    • @joepeanut6827
      @joepeanut6827 Рік тому

      Been wondering about that also, and the Metal planer, there was supposed to be a job to do when the planer was finished, but never seen any videos.

  • @Skizziks_MAD
    @Skizziks_MAD Рік тому +3

    I worked in a teaching shop and we lost a lot of those center indicators to novice users trying them under power.
    You can get the coaxial indicator pretty close without running the spindle, with less chance of disaster. Line the probe up visually at "BDC" (close to you), run the X-axis back & forth 'til you get a maximum reading. You'll be on-center-ish in the X direction; set the dial at zero. put the spindle in neutral and turn it 180 so the probe is at "TDC" (far side) and see what's on the dial. Move your Y-axis half that difference. If the Y is close, you can put it in LOW gear and run the spindle under power to fine tune.

    • @ellieprice363
      @ellieprice363 Рік тому

      I usually put the spindle in neutral and dial it in slowly by hand.

  • @joepeanut6827
    @joepeanut6827 Рік тому

    Those pins look like they are sticking up in to the gearway. looks like the matching angel gear is going to hit the pins.

  • @WobblycogsUk
    @WobblycogsUk Рік тому +2

    Great work, I wonder why it wasn't made as a single piece though.

  • @ianpendlebury3704
    @ianpendlebury3704 Рік тому +1

    Nice to see someone running one of these co-ax indicators at a sensibly slow speed.

    • @grntitan1
      @grntitan1 Рік тому

      I know right. I’ve seen guys run them really fast. Should be run on back gears on the slowest speed. They really don’t even need powered at all. Take it out of gear and spin the spindle by hand. Just like the good old test indicator.

  • @ccrider5398
    @ccrider5398 Рік тому

    Do you know why the big teeth on the spur gear failed while the bevel gear teeth look fine? It didn't look like the key sheared off, but then again, they had to pin it with the drill bits. Nice job with the pressing operations - smooth and steady - always better than hammering the pieces and pins.

  • @timf6916
    @timf6916 Рік тому +1

    Nice. Just asking about the cost of something like that. I don’t have to do an exact number but a ballpark number would be nice just to get an idea.

  • @tomford372
    @tomford372 Рік тому +1

    Hi Keith! Enjoy your work! Thank you! Was wondering about the status of the digital drive project for the Monarch lathe....did I miss something on it??

  • @rickdenney5772
    @rickdenney5772 Рік тому

    Just guessing: The pins were probably added after the fact when the maker of the machine decided that the keyway was a weak point. The key is stronger than the teeth, it seems to me, but it may be that the force on the keyway was causing gears to crack at the root of the keyway, and adding the pins was a production-run workaround. Or maybe it's the other way around--pins first and then the key. If it was a problem with the keyway, then machining the slot with a radius at the bottom should have relieved the stress riser at the root of the keyway.

  • @artszabo1015
    @artszabo1015 Рік тому +1

    Another great job done Keith!! I would love to see the machine this is for. Any chance of that???
    Art from Ohio

  • @gagasmancave8859
    @gagasmancave8859 Рік тому

    I learn something hew every vid yoh piston k7eth many thanks I am now foing to have to add a coax indicator to my wish list lol

  • @stevejones9788
    @stevejones9788 Рік тому

    Funny the difference between the American language and English. Chips are called swarf here in the UK

  • @markholmes2023
    @markholmes2023 Рік тому

    Keith am I right in thinking that the key on the bevel gear was cast into it.
    If so that would maybe explain why the keyway slot in the gear you were replicating was an odd size.
    This may also explain the use of the towel line to prevent the failure of the key during use.

  • @RobertKohut
    @RobertKohut Рік тому

    Nice!! 🙂

  • @sfeddie1
    @sfeddie1 Рік тому

    A beautifully made piece. But I can’t help but wonder how this gear is used. Does it spin on a shaft (no bearing?) or is it attached to a driven shaft? If so, how? There is no set screw or hole for a through-pin, or key way. Am I missing something?

  • @carlbyington5185
    @carlbyington5185 Рік тому

    That little puny press..... Haha... I know somebody that has a bigger one, just not quite finished yet, LOL

  • @billh308
    @billh308 Рік тому +1

    So it's done? Done with part of the dowel sticking up in between the gear teeth?

    • @paulcopeland9035
      @paulcopeland9035 Рік тому

      That was the camera angle. You can stop the critisizing anytime! Do you honestly think he would leave the pin up in gear path??

    • @billh308
      @billh308 Рік тому

      @@paulcopeland9035 I don't have to stretch the imagination to see what the video shows

  • @damionparson247
    @damionparson247 Рік тому

    Do you ever get tempted to completely take the movement out of the needle when indicating a bore?

  • @MeltiahNye
    @MeltiahNye Рік тому

    I would like to see the engine, too.

  • @mathewritchie
    @mathewritchie Рік тому

    Maybe on some earlier repair someone decided that a key was not enough and added the pins?

  • @markdavies9912
    @markdavies9912 Рік тому +1

    What is the point of the dowels given that the key stops it rotating?

    • @bryanlatimer-davies1222
      @bryanlatimer-davies1222 Рік тому +3

      Other people have said the key might have been snapping in use, hence the pins. It's a bit like putting a 30 amp fuse in when the 3 amp one blows !

  • @danielelse3914
    @danielelse3914 Рік тому

    It is so strange to hear a machinist say, "Aw, it's close enough." 😂

  • @hoppercar
    @hoppercar Рік тому

    Why didnt you use threaded pull dowels in case they ever have to come out ?????

  • @jeffaddison6332
    @jeffaddison6332 Рік тому

    Hi, How much weight have you lost? You’re looking good.

  • @Tammy-un3ql
    @Tammy-un3ql Рік тому

    👍👍👍

  • @platipuss777
    @platipuss777 Рік тому

    Why the heck does blue loctite come in red tubes?!

  • @shanewalker9564
    @shanewalker9564 Рік тому

    atte bottom ove the bevel thare looks like alinement marks

  • @johnb6763
    @johnb6763 Рік тому

    What does this part do?

  • @scotthaddad563
    @scotthaddad563 Рік тому

    I hope that you are doing well. You have really lost weight.