HIDDEN LORE in the 4.1 Special Program (Recap & Analysis) | Genshin Impact
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- Опубліковано 22 чер 2024
- This leify lore streamer is EXCITED for the 4.1 Special Program. "To the Stars Shining in the Depths" and "Cataclysm Quickening" are shaping up to be some pretty riveting Archon Quests!
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:34 Archon Quests in 4.1
03:02 Wriothesley
03:34 Neuvillette
08:00 Mysterious Voice - Is it Furina? (Theories/Speculations)
09:54 New Region - Ruins of the Fontaine Institute
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It'd be really cool if the Abyss archer Scylla's warrior made peace with was Skirk and that's why she's mentioned in the Fontaine Archon Quests
I must say, your accent when you pronounce french words is better than a lot of content creators and very nice to hear as a french.
I think Furina isn’t begging Arlecchino because whe asked « who are you ? », but it might be Arlecchino’s soldiers she’s talking to instead.
And then she proceeds to pronounce fortress of meropyde 💀
@@cosmicbeesechurger5907this! It’s been so clear that the pronunciation is meh-row-peed. Kinda irks me as well when she pronounce fon-tayn as fuhn-tehn then though everything in the game pronounce it as the former. Dont get me wrong, minsleif is one of the best genshin lore CC but after fontaine patch, her pronunciation is a bit unbearable and kinda forced for me.
@@GachaMaster Tbf tho the way Genshin pronounces names aren’t how they would be pronounced irl. For example, Tartaglia should be pronounced without the g but Genshin devs tell the va’s to say the name as such. Minsleif is just trying to pronounce the names as they would in irl but it’s understandable if you think it would sound forced
Yeah sounds forced
meh who cares about pronunciation, no one gives a damn about sumeru character and liyue regarding how to say their name 🤣🤣
I hecking love how in-depth Genshin's lore is. It has no reason to go this hard, but it does. And I have no complaints.
Hope they will keep the quality till the end.
I think it was either Arlecchino who's making her beg or at least it's an act
Why do you think it's a act
Her voice doesnt seem like an act. She is probably afraid.. What a disappointment for me
@@Shallot3745 Cause Neuvillette sent us to prison with a false accusation, I think we were falsely accused by "wanting to kill Furina" and all of the begging is just an act so we can get "arrested"
It did say that somebody wanted to kill her
we actually can't say what makes Furina beg for her life, the trailers are usually a patchwork of voice lines.
It could be The Knave, someone unknown, it could be happening in the new story chaps or in a backflash... it could even be Furina's reaction when first meeting Neuvillette
My theory is that the prophecy has already been fulfilled.
Furina is crying all alone under the fountain, which is significant because that's where all water flows from (flooded) and is suffering because of loneliness (Hydro archon left alone crying on her throne). Fontainians seem to have no difference on how free they are compared to people from other visited regions, which suggest that their sin has been cleansed already. The prophecy is a recollection of the past that lets us know why Furina seems incompetent (big part of her is a victim of the prophecy) and explains her crying under the Oratrice's fountain. I think it is likely that the last Fontaine arc will be about her resurgence.
A dude at the beginning of the first act mentions how Fontainians used to be one with the water or something like that. The prophecy being fulfilled is a perfect explanation to why that is no longer the case. I felt like a true smarty pants when I thought of this so please share your thoughts!!!
I think it's definitely possible, it's a really smart theory!! XD
But some points I'm thinking about - if the prophecy has already been fulfilled, then why would Arlecchino still want to use the Hydro Gnosis to prevent it? The Fatui have huge realms of knowledge about Teyvat, so if it had already been fulfilled, then by theory, they should know that ^^
@@sayasakura_ I didn't know we knew Arlecchino's purposes already! I'd still doubt on whatever the Fatuis claim they are doing though... maybe just want the gnosis for their growing collection
As someone who was majorly excited for Fontaine's release, of course I would be really excited for this patch, trust me... at that moment where I saw Arlecchino, Furina, and Neuvillette having a little meeting really gives us big lore behind it, Wriothesley's character will definitely be interesting, as he said to Neuvillette on what Justice really meant for him, as strong as how Sumeru was highly written, I'm getting that feeling for Fontaine, the mysterious behind these characters are so fun to discover.
That wasn't wriothesley screaming at neuvillette, probably a random NPC
@@mariuscorman6997 But in JP trailer it was Wriothesley voice
@@mariuscorman6997 how does that sound like a random NPC to you?
@@cyanide2it’s not
why do i see you commenting on every genshin video i watch
I think its the hydro dragon who spoke to Neuvilette, maybe for her its very important that her children learn how to be human, like taking huge risks for loved ones and such
That one is a rly good guess too!!
I personally think it's probably the previous hydro archon?
@@90_percentshroom The previous hydro archon is Egeria and have a different VA in all languages.
Its not confirmed according to rumors hydro dragon is Neuvillette .
iisnt that furina voice lmao@@reizero246
It's far easier to tell if the voice that speak to Neuvillette is Furina or not in JP version, I could always recognize Inori Minase's voice even in different personality/accent/characters potrayal.
I think Furina’s talking to Celestia. Even though Arlecchino is a harbinger, Furina IS an archon… I feel like the only people powerful enough to make her beg for her LIFE (as an archon, an immortal being, a god who’s reigned for at the very least over 500 years) are Celestia. “Even she knows not to make an enemy of the divine”.
Additionally, Arlecchino’s line sparked an idea in me. “From the very beginning, you, the god Focalors, have failed to take action…”. I think that Furina hasn’t done anything about the prophecy and the primordial water because of Celestia. She knows that by interfering she’ll anger Celestia, or they’ve warned her not to. Note that she was the hydro archon during the Cataclysm- she’s seen what Celestia and the Heavenly Principles can do.
Probably Arlechino none of them but we know that Highest 3 ranking Harbingers (Capitano, Dottore, Columbina and Pierro - speculation) powers are equal to archons - we get this information on the Sumeru Archon Quest.
@@TsaritsaTheSnezhnaya Powers that can rival Gods, but there are strong Gods and there are weak Gods. Havria was one such weak God and was shanked by one of her own followers, even then she released enough energy to kill everyone around her instantly.
Archons are well above that, and even Nahida, the weakest archon, has powers beyond what most people and even other Gods can comprehend by Ei's own admission. Furina is most likely holding back and pretending to be weak and acting like a clown, probably out of necessity. Several characters mention that everything she does seems like an act and that they can't get a good read on her. The Hydro gem lore also implies that she only fears Celestia.
From my little knowledge about Genshin lore, i dont remember celestia had been mentioned involve in the cataclysm.
little did they know that the feling that felling that the sustaner of hevealy pracables was allways bascly drectly wacthing them even so clsoly inside the court rooms and even in the prsion was bascly far more actaly true then they wanted to find out how close they got to bascly got it that sooner or later is giong to bite them back in the butt later down the road MHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! what are the chances they did in fact put even the sustaners of helvay princables as a under cover witness and agent to find out what was giong one with the disparacse case. but thats yet another story that hoyoverse is meant to be played on in the long term of the gihin impact. little did every eveyr one know the only most powerful hokni detective is bascly me but i don't even play the game and yet i know far more how things are giong to happen and end far before even nehda can even get the info first. yes i'm that good of a honki detecive to the pont that even hoyoverse is scared to even try to even talk to me wihout bascly leaking there own stuff in the procces. beware hoyovrse i have become bascly the hessure of forsight and preconision bascly. well unoffacly that is.
also the profsy of ptuing even the hevens themslef into prison was actaly far far more litral then fontine would realsie. but thats a part of a story hindsight of past context that has yet to fully unfould entogh yet. i don't call myslef the unffocal hesurre of forsight and preconiison for no good reson you know thers a good reason why i just diecied to call my self that is bescue maybe i kinda became that when i got a bit too deep nito the hokni story a bit too much and saw too many conections that will bacly fry far weaker hokni npcs brains almost imdedatnly.
Regarding the first part: I do think that Furina begging and What Arlecchino says are unrelated in this case. My best bed would be that Arlecchino is talking to Furina during the meeting & the Furina Begging takes place earlier or later in the story. As for the 3's Company - I Feel like Furina has an alter ego, the voice and way of speaking changed drastically during the " Malfunction " of Oratrice.
The shots surrounding furina begging is fatui operatives advancing toward the camera so i expect a fatui assassination event
@@soulstealer5625 the shots are likely an intended misdirect, you cant associate the shots to what is being said in the trailers.
yea like what they did in the 4.0... they were framing lynette to have died in the water tank but that was not the case
@@soulstealer5625they have been doing this for a long time. Classic hoyo bait and switch.
So hoping we get confirmation on Neuvillettes origin in the next patch.
As for Wrio, he sounds antagonistic but I'd actually be shocked if he was a bad guy at all.
When I heard remuria in this video I remembered that in my local place there was a rumour more like forgotten history about a place called kumarikandam(lumeria) in south region of India this continent was attached to Sri Lanka but overtime it was drowned by ocean there's still underwater town were discovered by archeologists also my ancestors like chola king he had been trading with Korea which actually is pretty far away if u compare Korean and Tamil language there's so many similar words with exact same meaning (This is not a theory)
So far, Fontaine has been my favorite region and archon quest ever.
The Furina part may just be cut together from different story lines.
I really love that part where Arlecchino says "From the very beginning, you, the god Focalor have failed to take action!!".
She's so disappointed on their archon
i really didnt expect to want anyone but Furina but im so excited for neuvilette and possibly arlecchino now! this story quest really made me interested in them and i cant wait to see what happens
Pretty sure it's her acting in the court room for added effect. So that her points sticks, she is all about theatrics so it panders to the crowd. Someone as powerful as her isn't gonna be begging for her life if anything she would welcome it with all the stress of the prophecy.
While she is known for her acting, it's in service to making her seem more confident and in control than she really is. So why then who she act scare and begging for her life when she works so hard to craft the images that she does? It's something that certainly leads to more questions than anything (though not an impossibility), so the "pretty sure" I feel is anything but.
I also want to say that "Someone as powerful as her" sounds like more of an assumption because we don't know much about her and the power she wields as of yet. There's even many info in the game so far that could point to her not being as powerful as she could be, like how she may not be getting the kind of reverence that she needs from her people that would power her role as an Archon because her people sees her as a "mascot", that she's using said reverence instead to power up Fountaine as a whole in some form and/or the Oractrice and not herself, or if her hair glowing all the time is any indication, she may actually be using up a lot of power at the moment for one reason or another and is thus in a "weakened" state. Basically, we don't know for certain the specifics of her powers so I wouldn't make assumptions as of now.
@@TheGeekyRedMagefurina didnt want to throw hands with childe or the traveller and she did nothing but looked worried when childe was going foul legacy. IDK why people assume shes powerful combat wise just cause shes an archon
Believe me when I say this, it’s an act
This is what Furina does
Also remember she like to spice things up for the audience
Plus people say that she's unpredictable, and that most things she does seems like an act
From JP, apparently who Furina is pleaing with is Nauvi. Like when they first met.
Huh, I can see that make sense. Putting my money on this theory for now.
Who?
I NEEDED THIS!! the trailer left me with many loose ends,, so an analysis is very useful
I was looking forward to your breakdown on the trailer, I can't wait for your breakdown of the quest!!
That ending clip Min lmao
Amazing video ❤ always a pleasure to see your content
I bet furina is just dreaming 😁. I will not going to believe on what I saw from trailers anymore cuz they're mix matching every scene like when they made to look like navia amd chlorinde is fighting-And in my view that time, it's like there's civil war happening in fontaine like people of furina devided into 2 groups that against each other. Then what we saw isn't that deep. It's just chlorinde followed those malfunctioning mechas then saw they're coming for navia. The scene can perfectly miss lead us to think that they're fighting and there's more deeper reason but nah, its not
Its either arlechino scaring her, the new fatui agents we saw or (and that’s my thought) just her inner self like when we were defending Liney
I'm pretty sure Furina is just acting with that line to be honest.
It's definitely a possibility since she's know for her acting.
But then it leaves to a pertinent question. Her act is usually to make her seem more confident and in control than she really is. So why then would she act in a completely opposite manner with the scene of her begging for her life when she tries so hard to craft this image of her as this competent Archon. There are many possibilities why of course, but nothing that would still not make this feel like a 180.
I think this is what people are missing when they think it's just her acting. Gnsn developers love to misdirect the playerbase so much with their trailers that it's definitely hard to pinpoint what is even happening to Furina, so to me the dialogue still feels unclear to me and I can't say definitively what is happening.
Well, this is a Steampunk theme, there's also a bunch of Opera, so, kinda get the feeling she's acting
The mention of Remuria
Reminded me of the game child of light's plot
The princess of lemuria rescued her kingdom and led them to another realm to save them, only the tip of the roof of the castle that was left when the kingdom got flooded.
Eastinghouse is a nod to westinghouse which researches and makes appliances irl. Im not sure if they still existed but we once have their old refrigerator and it last us a long time
Mins Mins 10/10 honestly love your vid . i am glad you read the lore so i can understand what's going on lol see yuh when you stream have a great day :)
HOLY FUCK I just finished the 4.1 archon quest and neuvilette's story quest and you're right about everything! how are you doing this!?!?!?!
Finishing Ann's Quest you can see the blocks of water, also doing the Ancient Colors quest can hint Paimon's identity for her immunity.
You always outdo yourself Min! So well explained- I'm totally onboard the three hydro archons theory as an explanation for the fountain voice! The oratrice being the one speaking to Neuvillette would be INCREDIBLE
ILY MOND
side note, you really deserve more subs. hope you get to 1m soon!
awesome work tnxx :D
I was thinking about the Crying sound in the fountain and said that based on the voice line that i don't believe its the Hydro Archon by someone who sounds like her
Finally a content from your channel ❤
Fontaine is gonna be full of mysteries❤. In greek mythology, Scylla is pronounced as [si-la) not [skai-ľa).
i love how furina is portrayed superficially as a "useless" "annoying" or "lazy" archon, its refreshing to see on an archon and i love her for that (but she is not lazy at all, she is researching on how to stop the prophecy and save her people)
That’s exactly why I love Furina so much. Although everyone claims that she is ‘useless’ and ‘annoying’, it’s obvious that Furina is more than what she is at face value, and that only people who see this can truly understand her, like Neuvillette
I think it's most likely that when furina was screaming for her life she was faking it for the traveller to get to prison like Nuvlite said in the trailer.
Even though you read the lore so we don’t have to, I also read the lore. I just so happen to watch your videos for insight, and incase I miss a detail or fail to discover something. I appreciate your work, and enjoy your voice and your content very much. Thanks Minslief.
I like it! Furina is really the queen of drama.
And the queen of need for maturity and true-self development.
Remember they said that Arle is meeting Furina and Neu. I think that voice line will be in that meeting when they turned down her actions to solve the prophecy.
Now with regards to Furina being afraid. I think it will either be an act to help the traveller or a flashback wherein someone who has an authority from Celestia went down and warn Furina with regards to her actions about the prophecy.
yes i too love wriothesleys very lore related details, he has 2 very juicy ones
Also regarding the three archon theory, we have three different underwater skills given by three different animals.
Thank you for the analysis video on the special program Leify! There was A LOT to uncover with the trailer released. About the fountains, I've been wondering why there's three lion-like statue with wings and somewhat looks like having serpent tails at one of the fountain on the way to opera epiclese. And why there's Kamera on one of the thrones?
Edit: what i found through some googling, those statues looks awfully similar to Marchosias and it’s one of the demon in ars goetia. but then we know that the name is actually the real name for guoba. i’m in a huge confusion right now.
absolutely loved this
This one's gonna be so good
0:03 Yup gotta love the details
i think the mysterious is either egeria or the oratrice but it would be cool if it was egeria because it will be her advice to him when she found him
I THINK YOU SHOULD DOUBLE IT AND GIVE IT TO THE NEXT PERSON MISS
Yey Minsleif!!! 🎉
Hear me out.....If the reaction between pneuma & ousia had an anti-gravity like effect on the water then since furina is assumed to have both could she also have some gravitational or similar kit?
IDK my mind just immediately went there
Focalors twin god being forced into a device and suffering from loneliness? Reminds me of Lapic Lazuli from steven universe lol
If it's not acting, why does Furina still want to live? If the prediction is about Fontaine, Furina will cry lonely.
"i love your accent say it again"
"Fon-ten" ❤️
0:04 Ah, yes so much details
Good work fam
I don’t watch anything until you make a video about it
It might be Arleccino's real form (transformation) that makes Furina ask who they are and beg for her life, since we know all Harbingers have their sexond form, plus fif what her hands look like resembles her transformation, it xould be quite monstrous, and Furina wouldnt have seen it by then. And i think the Knave will visit her in the dead of night, like hiw Linney first met her. It would be a way to intimidate Furina into accepting her deminds that were rejected during the formal diplomatic meeting
Minsleif really holds in our expectations and gives us the best analysises and theories.
Seems like my theory about furina's different personas is similar to yours. Omg
0:04 - oh yes, details.
weird thing to share here. on top of fountain of lucine there is an invisible portal to which you can enter but would be teleported back infront of the fountain. if you cant find it, try shooting a charged bow again and again and you'll see or just slowly decend on top of the fountain
0:04 really got me
The name Remuria first reminded me of Lemuria, the continent that was flooded and submerged beneath the Indian or Pacific Ocean over night (I'm not sure which is correct, since both have been mentioned), similarly to Atlantis which came after.
ngl the 4.1 trailer sounds like a whole new game.
The details caught me so off guard I pushed my sneeze away-
thank you for reading the Lore so i dont have to , Much appreciated
I wonder when will the hexen circle come in. We’re like almost through the nations already they should be popping up soon.
When I say I'm excited for 4.1, that's an understatement
My genuine question:
Why is Neuvillette's eyes so fine🤌
" And juicy details" I see what you did there
When I tell you I was WAITING for you to drop a video and now you did hahaha! My face lit up like a zhongaballs getting his osmanthus wine 😂 but for real mins this one is awesome! That 4.1 trailer literally gave me sensory overload lol! I still love the idea of three hydro archons. Those three seats have me so baffled and honestly if it is true that it is three hydro archons I will be GAGGED 😮!! great vid, see you in stream sometime soon! I for sure want to be there when you play the archon quest! 🦦🦦🦦
SUBIE ILY ; - ;
Bet she says this then reveals a hidden insane self representing the ousuia thingys light one being a bit kinder darker being extremely angry and dark or maybe even the other way around
10:41 Indeed ~ That's a nice " Hooooole" that totally killed it :-P
I'm 80% of the persuasion that when Lyney asks what was done with his "siblings," he's not referring to Lynette or Freminet, but to the operatives who had infiltrated and then vanished. They would be his siblings from the House of the Hearth as well. The other 20% is reserved for the off chance that the voice lines were intentionally mismatched, as Hoyo does, and it actually has something else entirely to do with those two.
I like the details😂😙
Honestly, of all the different ideas and theory’s that I and the community have, I just hope it goes past our expectations. And isn’t under
Ok, so, it's not related to the video
But when I try to look for your content, I'll always type "That one dainsleif simp theorist"
And it work
The voice speaking to Neuvillette does not sound as Furina's voice to me in either localization you present here. But it's still possible they have the same voice actor, in a similar manner how Raiden, Ei, and Makoto have the same voice actor too. The voice in the fountain is much more Furina's voice than the one from Neuvillette's scene but it does not make sense to me for it to be voice of the current Furina so I'm more for that being either imprint from the past, though it also may be voice of some third character.
I'm glad you recognize that these trailers are messing with us by putting quotes out of context and don't draw any conclusions from how they're organized.
I think Furina's begging might be part of the plot to get us to the fortress. Because to get there, we don't need just Neuvillette's decision, we must convince the Oratrice too. And that involves some criminal act, evidence, witnesses, and a trial.
The voice is from the same Furina VA in the 4 languages. She could be the previous hydro archon? Nope, because we know Egeria have a different VA. Could be a sister? could be, but I don't think they are repeating the exact same thing as Raiden.
Why Hoyo would use the same VA in 4 languages to a character not related to Furina or Furina itself?
@@reizero246I have a theory that Furina is Egeria, but a separate and convoluted version of her consciousness
I will finish the entire act in a single day
It's def a bait. Seems like her eccentric personality coming through. Like how at the end of the second trial she kinda freaks out and says "stop staring at me" or something
Can I ask where the fanart pictures of the dragons and so on in this video is from?
this video right here! :"D ua-cam.com/video/IE4UR-ofD-4/v-deo.html
10:40 I AM SORRY. I CAN’T 😂😂
We have been waiting for a cryo catalyst forever but when we finally get one no one is hyped about it
Did minsleif react to the trailer?
I’m certain Furina is begging for her life but not against arlecchino, in the special program they showed Furina having a negotiations meeting with her. So why would Furina ask “who are you?” It’s probably a yet unseen npc, flashback, or like someone said Arlecchino soldiers. Also in one of your other videos, you had a theory of Furina being a triplet which I have to disagree with, everything about Fontaine and Furina yells duality and pairs of two, even the hydro hypostasis has two slimes dark blue and light blue.
Arle is dunking on Furina but the Dont Kill me is likely a response to someone else
Still waiting for Genshin Impact Timeline animation part 2 🥹
Father is home let's go
What would we do without Minsleif ❤
i have a feeling that Furina begging for her life has something to do with Neuvillete telling the traveller that he will make a fake verdict or something. It probably has to feel real for the Oratrice to give the verdict of guilty so its probably the traveller in disguise trying to fake an assassination of the archon. The disguise could be why Furina didnt recognize her attacker, or she could be in cahoots with traveller and neuvillete and putting on an act in front of the Oratrice. Given how Fontaine's justice system works, its not actually that easy to accuse someone of a crime (except Childe but thats definetly an exception to the norm)
0:03 yeah.... detail 🤣🤣🤣
Sort of new to this channel, but isn't minslief the combination of Lumine (minus the e) and Dainsleif?
easting House should have hired Westinghouse...lol
Im begging arlecchino to take my life
did u know min, VA ending woman speaks to neu similar with nicole aka hexen member. seems neu feel lost then nicole guide him?
OOOOO
Ok but imagen if Arlecchino is the 1 harbiger people think capition (i do to )but imagen and people not wanting to leave becus of Rizzly is valid
I realised something
When Liney mention his "siblings"
We know all house of heart orphans consider themselves to be brother and sister and they eventualy get trained to become spies
So what if he meant the spies who were sent in Meropides and eventualy disapeared ?
Liney did mention having more brothers and sisters than just Lynette and Freminet, I just doubt there would be any reason for these two to end up in Meropides or even dying as infiltrate it would be rather hard as.. they are already known in Fontaine which doesnt allow them to take a fake identity so easely idk thats just how I see things
(Even tho Freminet could dive and try to enter Meropides as this seems to be the only entrance)
I'm also starting to wonder if "Furina" is gonna be playable, like the current one we met.. she seems to avoid duels (first with traveler then with Tartaglia she seemed scared) also that new voice line where she beg for her life.. she doesn't seem like someone who fight so I wonder if something will happen to justify having her fighting.. or if we'll get an other playable hydro archon.. just other version of her (if theories that she has split her personnality in two maybe ?) Or just an other characters (the 3rd person who could be the Oratrice ?)
Well or she's just playing.. could be the case as Mihoyo like to make missleading voicelices
K, i got a couple of ideas after this video,
1. i think this is ginna go down just like the french revolution. the nobles (furina and or neuvillette) have failed to do their job corretly, and the citizens (arlechino? and or the people of fontaine) are taking action to overthrow the throne(s?)
2. the people of fontaines sin was that they were evolving without the athority of the divine. they left the sea and evolved cause, well, they wanted to. so because of this, they're forced to return to the sea, and eventually they will all drown as they're unable to adapt their bodies back to living underwater. like how god sent a flood due to peoples sins, a way to purify the world.
Childe needs no plan he'll prob just wing it as usual hehe
If neuvillette is not a dragon but an otter, id question my existence...