Cold War-era bomber plane engine roars back to life

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
  • St. Helena resident Mike Nieman shows off the 28-cylinder motor, one of 10 engines from a Convair B-36 Peacemaker built in 1946. (Video by Cynthia Sweeney)

КОМЕНТАРІ • 70

  • @SamhainBe
    @SamhainBe 3 роки тому +16

    I thought I saw that shop fly over my house this morning!

  • @gazratjackson
    @gazratjackson 3 роки тому +6

    That building moved back at least 3 feet

  • @MrSuzuki1187
    @MrSuzuki1187 3 роки тому +7

    R-4360. As in 4,360 cubic inches. 28 cylinders, 56 spark plugs. 4,000 hp.

  • @jameshoffman552
    @jameshoffman552 3 роки тому +3

    The B-36 was the one application where the R-4360 (not to be confused with T-4680) created terrible headaches and even crashes -- due to the engine's reverse mounted 'pusher' configuration the oil cooler was in front and would encounter cold air unheated by the engine -- particular at the high altitudes and arctic missions the B-36 was focused on -- and would freeze up, resulting in fewer than '6 turning (and 4 burning in applicable models)'.

  • @WiresOfFire
    @WiresOfFire 3 роки тому +6

    I saw this sitting in that parking lot several years ago on a road trip. I wondered then if anyone ever tried to start it. Better late than never!

  • @JungleYT
    @JungleYT 3 роки тому +18

    If I was a billionaire, the B-36 would be flying again... The wrong people seem to have all of the money, it seems. Still, nice to see a remnant of this great plane still working. I understood there were many of the engines around, but "10"? Wow!

    • @mpetry912
      @mpetry912 3 роки тому +5

      Six Pratt R-4360s like the one in the video, plus four jet engines. Years ago there was a proposal to get a B-36 flying - of the four in existence, two could possibly be made flyable - but turns out there are limitations imposed by the arms control treaties.

    • @JungleYT
      @JungleYT 3 роки тому +1

      @@mpetry912 An unarmed flying museum piece replica - no bomb bay doors or other armaments version could easily pass muster. Got into a big debate about another flyable one and how it would have to be made new, from scratch. Since restoring one of the existing ones would be too risky - cracks, metal fatigue, etc. With modern manufacturing techniques it could be done, especially since this plane is small and simple compared to modern jetliners, bombers, etc.

    • @mpetry912
      @mpetry912 3 роки тому +1

      @@JungleYT well that's a project ! Any thoughts on what the fuel burn per hour might be ? How's $10k/ hour sound. Remember it's avgas, $8/gal.

    • @JungleYT
      @JungleYT 3 роки тому +1

      @@mpetry912 I figure with a modern, lighter aircraft without heavy vacuum tube electronics and no heavy armaments, modern R-4360s, with better lubricants, modern fuel formulations, shutting down a couple of engines at altitude to save on gas - remember, no longer under SAC and a Cold War schedule - it would be cheaper than a Cold War mission.

    • @isaacsrandomvideos667
      @isaacsrandomvideos667 3 роки тому +1

      Very true. The problem is, the other ones who aren’t the “wrong ones” tend to not fly very well, then crash it. It’s happened many a time.

  • @williamgraves2009
    @williamgraves2009 Рік тому

    This engine was also installed in the Boeing B-50 bomber and the 377 Sratocruiser airliner

  • @tylerbonser7686
    @tylerbonser7686 3 роки тому +2

    Well it had 6 of those engines. Cool video.

    • @mouser485
      @mouser485 3 роки тому +1

      Yep, B36 had “6 turning and 4 burning”

    • @jameshoffman552
      @jameshoffman552 3 роки тому

      @@mouser485 - ... when things were going well. Other states included 'joking' and 'unaccounted-for'.

  • @lylecosmopolite
    @lylecosmopolite 7 років тому +5

    That engine is powerful enough to power a decent sized locomotive.

    • @deniseowens75
      @deniseowens75 5 років тому +3

      The B36 had six of them plus four jet engines.

    • @justat1149
      @justat1149 4 роки тому +1

      Denise Owens
      The B-36D received 4 jets to aid takeoff. The B-36A/C didn’t have them

    • @declandickson2839
      @declandickson2839 3 роки тому

      @@justat1149 well yes but which was the most produced model?

    • @jameshoffman552
      @jameshoffman552 3 роки тому

      @@justat1149 - Also for higher speed and altitude over hostile territory (which didn't happen).

    • @jameshoffman552
      @jameshoffman552 3 роки тому

      @@declandickson2839 - They kept upgrading the planes, converting one model to another. Particularly, after the hurricane that damaged the fleet in Ft. Worth TX, when they made the flying nuclear reactor version.

  • @Mike-01234
    @Mike-01234 Рік тому

    Same engine in the dreadnought Hawker Sea fury air racer. Lucky, I got a chance to see it fly before they blew the engine few weeks ago at Reno.

  • @d53101
    @d53101 3 роки тому

    Rolling shutter demonstration done very well here.

  • @robleary3353
    @robleary3353 3 роки тому +3

    Good on them for bringing a piece of hostory alive!. What I'd like to know, most stationary running engines require shortened props. How did they stop it moving?.

  • @firefalcon100
    @firefalcon100 3 роки тому +1

    nothing.. and i mean nothing, sounds so nice as a radial engine firing up.

  • @roscoe9507
    @roscoe9507 3 роки тому +2

    I was certain the window was going to give out

  • @larshimler2063
    @larshimler2063 3 роки тому

    Pratt & Whitney R-4360. Wow!

  • @texasfathead
    @texasfathead 3 роки тому

    It looks like your 4360 but I really can't tell we didn't get a close-up of it but thank you very much

    • @jameshoffman552
      @jameshoffman552 3 роки тому

      Looks like one to me - 4x7 cylinders. I don't know if there were other 4-row radial recips. Saving the close-ups for monetization?

  • @125dutchboy
    @125dutchboy 3 роки тому +3

    OK, who else was waiting for the guy with the camera to back up into the prop??

    • @kevinclark6289
      @kevinclark6289 3 роки тому

      Isn't that the truth! I thought that idiot was going to hop around right into it.

  • @TOKAMEEL
    @TOKAMEEL 8 років тому +4

    "Now, what are you going to do with it?"
    Sorry. I see by the ad on the wall that you are a Harley shop. But it will need one hell of a big bike! Perhaps the worlds first Harley Cycle-Bus. :)

    • @howardnielsen6220
      @howardnielsen6220 3 роки тому +3

      It’s just for the fun of firing up and running an engine like this. Don’t get it You need a Hobby and sometime off. My hobby Hot Rods and things that go fast

  • @loveplane737
    @loveplane737 3 роки тому +1

    wow

  • @gregnapert9231
    @gregnapert9231 3 роки тому +2

    I'm not sure I could think of a worse place to start that engine!

    • @firefalcon100
      @firefalcon100 3 роки тому

      yeah i thought that other radial prop and front engine piece over the door was once again going to take flight there for a while. probably would have if he actually ran it up to full power. now that would have been a sight to see

  • @TOKAMEEL
    @TOKAMEEL 8 років тому +2

    So cool!! Now, what are you going to do with it?

    • @TomJones-ug4bg
      @TomJones-ug4bg 5 років тому +2

      TOKAMEEL refill it with oil

    • @ralfie8801
      @ralfie8801 4 роки тому +5

      Joe Piscopo
      He will, those engines have a high rate of oil consumption compared to a car if you didn't know. About 7 US gallons per hour during a typical mission. The oil tank for each of the six B-36 engines held 190 gallons and it was considered normal to return from an uneventful mission with only half of that amount left. Total oil consumption per mission was around 475 gallons.

  • @victorponce7238
    @victorponce7238 3 роки тому

    How do hold down that beast!

  • @isaacsrandomvideos667
    @isaacsrandomvideos667 3 роки тому

    Wow!

  • @jameshoffman552
    @jameshoffman552 3 роки тому

    0:42 Now only 3 blades! What happened.

  • @mplaw77
    @mplaw77 3 роки тому

    6 turning and 4 burning

  • @Mark_Ocain
    @Mark_Ocain 7 років тому +2

    Very cool...totally reckless...but very cool

  • @johnwatson3948
    @johnwatson3948 4 роки тому

    Can you say what model 4360 you have there? If for B-36 would be -25, -41, or -53.

    • @88SC
      @88SC 3 роки тому +1

      -20 from a C-119 Boxcar. Pusher versions, which were used on the B-36, had some unique features. One of which was a 6 inch extension between the magneto section and the propeller gearbox.

    • @johnwatson3948
      @johnwatson3948 3 роки тому

      Thanks did not know that. Wonder how hard it would be to convert existing 4360’s to the B-36 version - were there some crazy reason to do so. There are many 4360’s out there but few of those.

    • @88SC
      @88SC 3 роки тому

      @@johnwatson3948 they used to do that, according to “R-4360; Pratt and Whitney’s Major Miracle”, by Graham White. The other and most significant difference between the tractor and pusher versions, was that the cylinders were installed “backwards”, or described another way, they were clocked 180° in their mounting pads. The cylinder heads were designed to be cooled with the intake rocker box in the leading edge of the cooling air. On a B-36, that meant it needed to be pointed towards the supercharger end of the engine. Since the intake and exhaust tracks of the cams were reversed, they needed to be unique for a pusher. The cooling baffles are also “backwards”. Google pictures of a -53 and a -59 (C-97 version) and study the differences. They will jump out at you. Enjoy!

    • @johnwatson3948
      @johnwatson3948 3 роки тому +1

      Interesting - thanks!

    • @johnwatson3948
      @johnwatson3948 3 роки тому

      I meant to ask with your knowledge - do you know why on the early B-36’s the exhaust manifolds had covers that ducted air back to exit slots on the fixed propeller base? Removal of these must have increased the nightmare of maintenance - and the system and slots were deleted on later B-36’s. I don’t think this is mentioned in the Graham-White book or elsewhere.

  • @mjw1955
    @mjw1955 4 роки тому +1

    Design a motorcycle around it and it'll eat the Tomahawk for lunch.

  • @markfrench8892
    @markfrench8892 3 роки тому +1

    I'd look better running on a B-36. 😆

  • @toadman506
    @toadman506 3 роки тому

    56 Spark Plugs.....at $63 each (Today's cost)

    • @clearcreek69
      @clearcreek69 3 роки тому

      Over $3500. Hope the owner doesn't have to change plugs weekly

    • @ralfie8801
      @ralfie8801 3 роки тому +3

      @@clearcreek69
      In normal operations, after each mission, all of the spark plugs in every engine were changed.

  • @ronlynquist9183
    @ronlynquist9183 3 роки тому +2

    More accurate to say WWII engine. Thats when the were designed and frst used.

    • @tylerbonser7686
      @tylerbonser7686 3 роки тому +3

      They were plenty accurate saying cold war era bomber engine since the B36 didn't fly in ww2.

    • @ronlynquist9183
      @ronlynquist9183 3 роки тому

      @@tylerbonser7686 The B-36 first flew in 1946. Before the beginning of the cpld war. It was designed originally to bomb Germany if England was defeated. So in was a WWII aircraft that was used after the war. Like a lot of other aircraft.

    • @tylerbonser7686
      @tylerbonser7686 3 роки тому +2

      @@ronlynquist9183 yes I know the history of the b36. I would not consider a airplane that didn't fly during WWII a WWII bomber. That implies it served during the war. But I would definitely consider a plane that actually flew during the cold war a cold war-era bomber. I see your point that it was designed to attack German but obviously never did. The title is completely accurate. But maybe you think it should say "engine from plane that was designed during WWII but actually served during the cold war" would be more accurate. But that gets a bit lengthy.

    • @ronlynquist9183
      @ronlynquist9183 3 роки тому

      @@tylerbonser7686 Is it more accurate to call the B-29 a cold war bomber or a WWll bomber?

    • @tylerbonser7686
      @tylerbonser7686 3 роки тому +1

      @@ronlynquist9183 well now you're just bringing in another argument because your first doesn't hold water and this question makes even less sense. Technically it was both since it served during both so what's your point? The B50 played a greater role and the b29 was merely a stop gap. The B-29 was a WWII-era bomber that seen limited and early service in the cold war but I have never heard someone refer to it as a cold war bomber. I also don't hear people calling the B36 a WWII bomber.