Modern Quranic Scholars Lie! - Creating the Qur'an with Dr. Jay - Episode 14

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  • @joseywales3789
    @joseywales3789 Рік тому +51

    *WITHOUT THE LIES, ISLAM DIES!!* 😂🤣😂🤣

    • @bestKaffir.underTheSon
      @bestKaffir.underTheSon Рік тому +3

      In spite of lying,
      Islam is already dying.

    • @bestKaffir.underTheSon
      @bestKaffir.underTheSon Рік тому +1

      @@defenderoftruth3212 Priests don't live in luxury, they live in poverty.
      You think that all Bible believers are Catholic. What a stupid assumption.
      Are all Muslims Suffi? Unlike you Muslims, we are intelligent enough to know that is not the case.
      Educate yourself.
      Islam and Catholicism have a lot more in common than what Catholics have with us.
      Both Islam and Catholicism have their routes in Babylonian paganism. Both have the rosary.
      It does not surprise me that where Islam is, Catholicism is.
      I am not Catholic or Protestant. I am a Messianic.

    • @hdl135605
      @hdl135605 Рік тому

      The truth will surely kill Islam.

    • @furkancimen3145
      @furkancimen3145 11 місяців тому

      @@hdl135605 without the lies, mithra/jesus dies

    • @marigolddream7308
      @marigolddream7308 7 місяців тому

      The truth is No mohamad existed,quran is a toy book of hypocracy and heresy man made book unholy book ignorance book not inspirational book,it so funny that mohamad is a phrophet with out a phropecy according to islam muslim,mohamad did not offer salvation he didnt die on the cross to offer salvation for the sins of human being. JESUS IS GOD HE took a form of a human being at the same time he is GOD HE was born by a virgin by the power of the HOLY SPIRiT..

  • @sagarjackie7366
    @sagarjackie7366 Рік тому +29

    Why do they deceive themselves? Have they forgotten that we're in the internet age?

    • @alexandernorman5337
      @alexandernorman5337 Рік тому +3

      How can they get their little Aisha/Lolita toy without islam?

    • @georgeo785
      @georgeo785 Рік тому

      Brainwashed

    • @alexandernorman5337
      @alexandernorman5337 Рік тому +5

      @@defenderoftruth3212 Except none of what you say is in the Bible. The Bible outright refutes what you say about Rebekah. It states clearly that Abraham later heard about his brother Nahor's children. By its omission of saying the information came from Nahor, we *know that it didn't* and so we know he learned it from a random encounter with an unimportant traveler who happened to be an acquaintance of both of them. We thus know that Abraham did not learn about Nahor's children as soon as they were born, and thus you cannot construct an age for Rebekah around that.
      (Not to mention that no 3-year-old could water ten camels - which takes well over *1000 pounds* of water!)
      The Bible doesn't give us a statement on Joseph's age. But we know from the Bible that he got around quite well (back and forth through Samaria, Judea, and Egypt) and so he was a *fit* man. So an age of 90 is implausible.

    • @ladymacbeth1st461
      @ladymacbeth1st461 Рік тому

      ​​.

    • @ladymacbeth1st461
      @ladymacbeth1st461 Рік тому

      ​@@defenderoftruth3212you have it confused the Jewish and Christian bibles.
      3 year old female are permitted to marry by Jewish rabbis according to their Talmud bible.
      Not the Christian Bible.
      What I find fascinating is the the Qur'an appears to have taken and twisted Christian biblical events and the hadiths appear to be lifted from the Jewish Babylon Talmud.

  • @gospelofyashua
    @gospelofyashua Рік тому +8

    @8:05-8:26 ...Brother Al-Fadi, that's where those Islamic scholars are full of fear to reveal the truth & possessed with shaytan's spirit of wicked intelligence to contunue a blasphemous 1400 yr old lie, because it would mean the end of all what we called Islam ☪️.

  • @Martin-lv1xw
    @Martin-lv1xw Рік тому +25

    Amen to Christ The Lord

  • @nemesis1291
    @nemesis1291 Рік тому +24

    All together now kids! WITHOUT LIES ISLAM DIES

    • @nemesis1291
      @nemesis1291 Рік тому

      @@defenderoftruth3212 hahahaha, panic mode

    • @hdl135605
      @hdl135605 Рік тому +1

      The other side of the coin... the truth will kill Islam.

    • @nemesis1291
      @nemesis1291 Рік тому

      @@hdl135605 brilliant!

    • @nemesis1291
      @nemesis1291 Рік тому

      @@defenderoftruth3212 hahahahah, nonsense. The only people who are flocking to the cult of the false pdf.file prophet of islääm are... Pdf.files 😂

    • @furkancimen3145
      @furkancimen3145 11 місяців тому

      @@hdl135605 who is truth ? Mithra ?

  • @123dsj123
    @123dsj123 Рік тому +34

    We must understand that the contentions over the “Perfect Preservation of the Quran” is a thing of great importance to Muslims. How else can a Muslim assumes his divine human superiority over his fellow human beings if the Quran has been tempered with by man? Allah tells Muslims that they alone, when compared to the rest of mankind, are the superior human beings ever created. Quran 3:110 reads, “You (Muslims) are the best of people ever raised up for mankind.” In Hadith Riyas as-Salihin 1839, Mohammed, the prophet of Islam, explains Quran 3:110: “The best people for mankind are those who bring them (mankind) with chains around their necks till they embrace Islam…”
    *
    Thus, the Muslim must fiercely contend for his human supremacy by insisting the Quran, from God, is a decree that cannot be changed for all eternity. Surely, you do not expect the Muslim to give in to the claim “All men are created equal” - a claim he attributes to a “supposedly” corrupt book?

    • @alonzoharris9049
      @alonzoharris9049 Рік тому

      Will your god throws unbelievers in hell?🤔

    • @GENESIS.50-20
      @GENESIS.50-20 Рік тому

      Sorry mate you are the 1st on the list of sentenced to the abyss. Accountable to everything you deny. Also can you tell me why allah is the most hideously ugly thing muslims have imagined?.

    • @georgeo785
      @georgeo785 Рік тому

      A man made cult that follows the devil

    • @bestKaffir.underTheSon
      @bestKaffir.underTheSon Рік тому +1

      Muslims are superior...
      No Kaffir can compete with their lies.

    • @OksintasObones
      @OksintasObones Рік тому

      All those books are bullshit .. it all started from the Annunaki era

  • @ElementalOutcomes
    @ElementalOutcomes Рік тому +4

    As the recent research of the manuscripts comes to light, the more difficult for Islamic scholars to continue to make those claims. It may take a while since most Muslims do not really research and textual criticism is fairly new when it comes to the Quran, but it will continue to dismantle the traditional Islamic manuscript myth.

  • @taheelshahid5615
    @taheelshahid5615 Рік тому +8

    Superb, fantastic, brilliant work, God bless U both

  • @lucilaluz8367
    @lucilaluz8367 Рік тому +17

    They have to keep up with all the lies in Q’ran! Thank you for your good work! God bless you both! ❤

    • @The_observer_44
      @The_observer_44 Рік тому

      Tell me the lies then you foul

    • @hdl135605
      @hdl135605 Рік тому

      ​@Volki_43_tube There are so many, many, many lies that i wouldn't know where and how to begin. Even if I could i wouldn't know how to end. In short it's perpetual.

    • @furkancimen3145
      @furkancimen3145 11 місяців тому

      @@hdl135605 jesus is mithra

  • @dollahmusa6705
    @dollahmusa6705 Рік тому +11

    1000 + contradictions in the koran...cannot be preserved...at all

  • @someone6170
    @someone6170 Рік тому +31

    Love it how the Muslim scholars always omit the word "partial" when they are talking about having historical copies of the Quran. The Codex B. L. Or. 2165 contains less than 60% of the total text of the Quran and the Tashkent copy runs from the middle of Surah 7 to Surah 43:10 (the Quran has 114 Surah).

    • @alonzoharris9049
      @alonzoharris9049 Рік тому

      How is that relevant?

    • @alexandernorman5337
      @alexandernorman5337 Рік тому +5

      @@alonzoharris9049 It shows there is no proof to support the claim of unalteration. But the many differences present show that there is evidence for significant changes over time. Very relevant, my muslim friend.

    • @alonzoharris9049
      @alonzoharris9049 Рік тому +1

      @@alexandernorman5337
      Our claim is not based on manuscripts.
      You don’t even represent our claim correctly.
      We are not Christians. You have to update your bible each year.
      Let’s say a complete gospel of Mark is found from the first century.
      The manuscript says on each page that Jesus is not Yahweh.
      Will you accept the manuscript as your new updated bible?
      Let’s see if you can be honest.

    • @alexandernorman5337
      @alexandernorman5337 Рік тому +7

      @@alonzoharris9049 The manuscripts shows that your claim is false regardless. If the manuscripts have changed - and they have - then so have your word recitals.

    • @alonzoharris9049
      @alonzoharris9049 Рік тому

      @@alexandernorman5337
      You ignored my question.
      You are simply a troll. We have 100% of the Quran in manuscripts from the first century.
      You have zero manuscripts from the first century.🫠
      Your comments prove that you don’t know much about this topic.
      Can you tell me how they date manuscripts? Which calibration date do they use to date palaeography?🫠

  • @danieladedosugbadero7373
    @danieladedosugbadero7373 Рік тому +12

    Without lies, deception and violence Islam dies.

    • @levi7187
      @levi7187 11 місяців тому

      Don't forget mass rape and genocide.

    • @peterbassey9668
      @peterbassey9668 7 місяців тому

      ...oh and women who are factory baby production machines. 😅

    • @LahmarNabil
      @LahmarNabil 7 місяців тому

      And who forced latest americans to convertc8slam when the saw Palestinians bravery

  • @danieladedosugbadero7373
    @danieladedosugbadero7373 Рік тому +8

    A deity that requires that it's devotees lie about it to gain acceptance of people is not worth been called god.

    • @georgeo785
      @georgeo785 Рік тому

      You mean ismalites and their man made cult that follows the devil. allah is the devil. Al Fadi and Jay Smith prove it

  • @alonzomccloud4530
    @alonzomccloud4530 Рік тому +2

    They are going to the grave with all those lies... all we can do is pray for them and keep ourselves armed with such crucial information. Earnestly, we must contend for the faith...I appreciate the work you all are doing. And may God keep your words from falling to the ground, like Samuel..

  • @edkhalil8898
    @edkhalil8898 Рік тому +8

    On what they wrote in Mecca and what did they use bones and leather pieces and did they use ink? These people living a lie, the current Quran was printed in 1924 in Egypt and listed the longest surra first to the shortest without caring about the date when it was revealed

    • @alonzoharris9049
      @alonzoharris9049 Рік тому

      The trinity is three gods.

    • @edkhalil8898
      @edkhalil8898 Рік тому

      @@alonzoharris9049 Who told that, in Quran Jesus is the word of God thus what is the difference between yourself and your word? God is not a statue as Islam state (Ahad Summed) God as Christian state fill the universe Alive in his spirit and speaks his word thru the essence of Jesus Christ.

    • @edkhalil8898
      @edkhalil8898 Рік тому

      @@garybowings1538 that's not the Christian Trinity, that's the belief of a hertical sect that was in Arabia at the time of Mohammed and got nothing to with wha Christian beliefs, the Christian Trinity, we believe in one God the father, the son and the holy Spirit .

  • @mineshpatel3709
    @mineshpatel3709 Рік тому +7

    Thank you brother Al Fadi And Dr Jay
    Without lies Islam dies
    😂😂😂😂😂
    Masha Dracullah for that

  • @adamparris8353
    @adamparris8353 Рік тому +4

    The ad that played before this video was about the "mIrAcLe Of PeRfEcT pReSeRvAtIoN". 🤣

  • @trevorgriffiths5611
    @trevorgriffiths5611 Рік тому +12

    Love it . Islam Busted again 😊

  • @satmat6566
    @satmat6566 Рік тому +1

    Thanks bros!
    I think you should have shown a few early Islamic scholars quotations on the screen !
    In the same video would be great!

  • @zambiansonlineforum1052
    @zambiansonlineforum1052 Рік тому +28

    Long live Jay Smith, internet will keep these videos for centuries. May you kindly put them in books?

    • @alonzoharris9049
      @alonzoharris9049 Рік тому

      Jay Smith believes in three gods.

    • @alexandernorman5337
      @alexandernorman5337 Рік тому +3

      I think the many books they have covered showing the slow, gradual development of the quran (with many, many changes over the centuries) already does that.

    • @alonzoharris9049
      @alonzoharris9049 Рік тому

      @@alexandernorman5337
      That has already been disproven.
      We have 100% of manuscripts from the first century.
      You are just waffling like Jay Smith.
      You have no idea what you are talking about.

    • @samuelflores1419
      @samuelflores1419 Рік тому

      ​@@alonzoharris9049But you'd rather Follow a Pedo False Prophet Caravan Robber named mo and the best of Deceivers allah(Satan)! As for the Three Gods, you know better. As always Since you Can't Defend, you Distract! You do know that Research goes a long way in islaaam, Try it! If you Dare or are you Scared? 😂

    • @gordonbarranger4087
      @gordonbarranger4087 Рік тому

      @@alonzoharris9049 Your religion is still based on lies ,lmfao ha ha ha.

  • @David_Hammond
    @David_Hammond Рік тому +7

    Appreciate this channel for exposing the truth to our fellow brothers in Christ. ✝️

    • @CIRAInternational
      @CIRAInternational  Рік тому +2

      To God be the Glory!

    • @0786AHA
      @0786AHA Рік тому

      You are Christian Kiss....knights in Satans Service. 😂😂💯☑️☑️☑️

    • @CIRAInternational
      @CIRAInternational  Рік тому

      @@defenderoftruth3212 not sure what you mean? And who said Gabriel is the Holy Spirit? Even the Quran doesn’t say it?

    • @CIRAInternational
      @CIRAInternational  Рік тому

      @@defenderoftruth3212 where is the Angel Gabriel in this verse? I perceive that you are so naive about Islamic teachings :)
      There are no verses in the whole Holey Quran that says The Holy Spirit is the Angel Gabriel!
      Furthermore, the English translation is wrong… Ot should say “Spirit of the Holy” which is something different!
      Hopefully this helps!

  • @truth.speaker
    @truth.speaker Рік тому +37

    Without lies, Islam dies 😢

    • @bestKaffir.underTheSon
      @bestKaffir.underTheSon Рік тому +5

      Islam is dying
      in spite of the lying

    • @truth.speaker
      @truth.speaker Рік тому +2

      @@bestKaffir.underTheSon very nice 💯🙂💯

    • @blazinglegend7492
      @blazinglegend7492 Рік тому +2

      @@bestKaffir.underTheSon look at the statistics. more people are leaving christianity than islam lolol. christianity is dying

    • @bestKaffir.underTheSon
      @bestKaffir.underTheSon Рік тому

      @@blazinglegend7492 The only statistics you have is Islamic propaganda.

    • @rubensilva3113
      @rubensilva3113 Рік тому

      ​@@blazinglegend7492In Islam you have no freewill. Lol You cant leave islam u slave to religion and kissing stones.
      Thats not slave to God thats slave to religion. Lol
      More prople leaving christianity?! who ? Andrew tate?!lolol
      Nice statistics .
      If Islam is so good why all muslim go to christian contries?lollol

  • @DWayTruthLife
    @DWayTruthLife Рік тому +2

    Liars need another LIES to cover their LIES

  • @titikkoma8586
    @titikkoma8586 Рік тому +3

    Quran more 37 Versions. Hafs Version Surah/ Chapter Al Imran 146, Qatala means Fought / Qalun & Warsh Version .. Qutila means Was Killed..

  • @tfernandes8786
    @tfernandes8786 Рік тому +11

    Cross ✝️ Christianity Bible teaches and preaches love ✝️💘❤♥💕💖✝️ peace tranquility humanity harmony goodness compassion non violence forgiveness etc ✝️💘❤♥💕🙏✝️ Jesus is the Savior of the world ✝️💘❤♥💕🌎✝️ Amen ✝️

  • @mysteriesmadeknown2874
    @mysteriesmadeknown2874 Рік тому +9

    Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every one that hears the words of the prophecy of this book, If any one will add unto these things, God shall add unto that person the plagues that are written in this book:
    :19 And if any one shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
    Mohammed broke both of these sayings.

    • @mysteriesmadeknown2874
      @mysteriesmadeknown2874 Рік тому

      @defenderoftruth3212 You like to be insulting, so I tell you what you keep to your hateful belief, and we will stay with our loving belief because I already had miracle signs and a near death experience so no one can convince me in any other beliefs.

  • @gotellthatfoxapologetics
    @gotellthatfoxapologetics Рік тому +3

    I'm glad that those muslim scholars chose to lie! They make our job very easy 😂😂

  • @samuelflores1419
    @samuelflores1419 Рік тому +2

    Hence Without Lies islaaam Dies! God bless you both and your ministry!

    • @samuelflores1419
      @samuelflores1419 Рік тому

      @@defenderoftruth3212 You need to research SIN. Lets talk about that Black cube you worship, do you know what it was before islaaam? Do you know it was a house of idols and the top g was the moon god? SIN has big problems when it comes to Real History! You need to get out of the muslim echo chamber and do Real Research on the Real History about what you think you know about your so-called religion.Why does the Perfectly Preserved Holey qur'an have Jewish Folklore in it? Isn't it supposed to be a revelation from your allah 😁 Come on, go Lie to someone who doesn't know your allah and his fake profit! The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob has Nothing to do with islaaam!

  • @hiddeninplainsight9131
    @hiddeninplainsight9131 Рік тому +7

    Imagine haphazardly plagiarizing Jewish myths, gnostic texts, and very poorly implementing Jewish and Christian ideology, then calling it "God's eternal word" and insisting that everything else that came before it is "corrupted" or never existed in physical form because of how poorly the Quran tried to characterize everything.
    Mass gaslighting at it's finest 🤦

    • @georgeo785
      @georgeo785 Рік тому

      A man made cult that follows the devil. Someone said islam might have been started by catholics

    • @shayalynn
      @shayalynn Рік тому +2

      Right. And the fact that there are several historical works by people such as Flavius Josephus, Tacitus,
      Pliny the Younger, and Suetonius, to name a few- which reference to the early Christians and/or that there was a persecution of the Christians and that their Christ was crucified. I love the fact that Flavius Josephus, especially, has such attention to historic detail which would obliterate any such claims of there being an Israel who worshipped “Allah” and had a Kaaba stone which they walked around a couple times or ANY other of crazy claims I’ve heard from the book of Quran. Josephus who wasn’t even a Christian who wrote objectively and lengthily
      As possible to make sure the Jewish history and or facts would not be erased or twisted (since he noticed at the time there were some such as Nicholas of Damascus who were making fictitious claims about certain details of the past history of mankind). Apparently there were quite several historians even in different areas who cared to detail things as a preservation to those who would come in the future and wanted to understand the past. Josephus quite literally puts up with no crap and calls out the false details and corrects them. I can’t believe he wrote 12 VOLUMES of information. I have been weaving through it and I have encountered fascinating information to say the least. Let me just say, it doesn’t look good for Islam whatsoever.
      They might as well change their story of correlating to the Jewish people and just be upfront that it’s a completely different religion. There’s no saving face for it at this point I guess. I only feel bad for Muslims who are being mislead and who have no idea just how steep the lies go.

    • @furkancimen3145
      @furkancimen3145 11 місяців тому

      Jesus mithra bro. Mary middleeast myth . Logos word philon, hellenic paganism

  • @ygcg8696
    @ygcg8696 Рік тому +2

    Look...later Yasir Qadhi had his own revelation and titled it SIN !
    Give that Sheik his due, Boys !
    😂

  • @rockzalt
    @rockzalt Рік тому +3

    Given the schools of Islamic jurisprudence and how they approach the "science of rhetoric", those scholarly statements make perfect sense in times past when access to the mushaf was extremely restricted. It would be easy to keep the average person too busy with keeping a roof over their head in the dark.
    Not so nowadays with internet access. The facts don't care about your feelings of perfect preservation and everybody can see the editorial changes. To quote Ali Dawah, it too has been "debunked" : ua-cam.com/video/HmUEub1O5FU/v-deo.html

  • @Trabunkle
    @Trabunkle 9 місяців тому

    Yeah! It's perfectly preserved by a bunch of liars and deceivers!

  • @esamshamoay303
    @esamshamoay303 Рік тому +4

    For me I care more about the content of the Qur'an rather than the preservation. I see the Quran as a whole is rubbish regardless of being preserved or not; What's the point of Rubbish being preserved?

  • @manikmia9530
    @manikmia9530 Рік тому +4

    Quran. Never. Been. Preserved. It. Had. Changed. Many. Time. Modern. Muslim. So. Called schooler. Claim. Base. Less. 10:46

  • @John14.6
    @John14.6 Рік тому +2

    Qadhi says that the Quran is the most protected of all scriptures and God has protected it from "all" kinds of alteration etc. But he says that Uthman standardised the quran. Standardised from what? Does he not see the contradiction from his own mouth?

  • @valentintomberg4276
    @valentintomberg4276 Рік тому +11

    Of the first Islamic scholar mentioned, Fethullah Gülen, I once read a book titled "Prophet Muhammad: The Infinite Light." In the preface, when discussing the prophet and its qualities, he quoted a Hadith (to be fair, this statement is indeed quite controversial among Islamic scholars): "Oh, Muhammad, were it not for you, I would not have created the universe." In my personal view, I find this statement to be
    completely absurd.

    • @reynoldthemagnificientthun463
      @reynoldthemagnificientthun463 Рік тому +3

      The statement should be revised : Oh Muhammad, were it not for you, sex and sexualogy will be assigned to a back burner. LMAO

    • @reynoldthemagnificientthun463
      @reynoldthemagnificientthun463 Рік тому

      *Muhammad violated the Qur’anic rule on sex and fondling with menstruating women*
      On menstruating women, the Qur'an says: Menstruation is a disease; can't have sex during a woman's period; after the period is over have sex in any manner, at any time and at any place... 2:222
      022.222
      YUSUFALI: They ask thee concerning women's courses. Say: They are a hurt and a pollution: So keep away from women in their courses, and do not approach them until they are clean. But when they have purified themselves, ye may approach them in any manner, time, or place ordained for you by Allah. For Allah loves those who turn to Him constantly and He loves those who keep themselves pure and clean.
      In verse 2:222 the Qur'an clearly says: So keep away from women in their courses, and do not approach them until they are clean.
      What Muhammad did to his wives when they were in heavy menstruation: During Aisha’s period Muhammad used to fondle her in bath. When menstruating Aisha used to wash Muhammad's head…(Sahih Bukhari 1.6.298).
      Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 6 Number 298
      Narrated 'Aisha:
      The Prophet and I used to take a bath from a single pot while we were Junub. During the menses, he used to order me to put on an Izar (dress worn below the waist) and used to fondle me. While in Itikaf, he used to bring his head near me and I would wash it while I used to be in my periods (menses).
      Muhammad used to fondle his wives when they were menstruating…(Sahih Bukhari 1.6.299)
      Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 6, Number 299
      Narrated 'Abdur-Rahman bin Al-Aswad:
      (on the authority of his father) 'Aisha said: "Whenever Allah's Apostle wanted to fondle anyone of us during her periods (menses), he used to order her to put on an Izar and start fondling her." 'Aisha added, "None of you could control his sexual desires as the Prophet could."
      Muhammad used to embrace his menstruating wives after covering their private parts… (Sahih Muslim 3.0578)
      Sahih Muslim Book 003, Number 0578
      'A'isha reported: When anyone amongst us was menstruating the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) asked her to tie waist-wrapper during the time when the menstrual blood profusely flowed and then embraced her; and she ('A'isha) observed: And who amongst you can have control over his desires as the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) had over his desires.
      Muhammad put his cheek and chest in between the naked thighs of a menstruating Aisha...(Sunaan Abu Dawud, 1.0270)
      Sunaan Abu Dawud Volume i, Number 0270
      Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
      Umarah ibn Ghurab said that his paternal aunt narrated to him that she asked Aisha: What if one of us menstruates and she and her husband have no bed except one? She replied: I relate to you what the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) had done.
      One night he entered (upon me) while I was menstruating. He went to the place of his prayer, that is, to the place of prayer reserved (for this purpose) in his house. He did not return until I felt asleep heavily, and he felt pain from cold. And he said: Come near me. I said: I am menstruating. He said: Uncover your thighs. I, therefore, uncovered both of my thighs. Then he put his cheek and chest on my thighs and I lent upon he until he became warm and slept.

    • @morghe321
      @morghe321 Рік тому +1

      Why would you even have to say "in my personal view"? It's definitely absurd for anyone who isn't muslim.

    • @P.H.888
      @P.H.888 Рік тому

      Shirk in islam
      But
      The Praised One ~ The Eternal Word ~ The Lord Jesus Christ ~ it’s possible within The Triune Godhead.

    • @alonzoharris9049
      @alonzoharris9049 Рік тому

      It’s not controversial.
      It’s not an authentic report.
      Gülen is a product of western liberalism.

  • @JScholastic
    @JScholastic Рік тому +10

    Alonzo Harris likes children. 👍

    • @childofgod4862
      @childofgod4862 Рік тому +1

      @temp9198 Yes he like chicken because his Allah lays eggs because his Allah does not beget nor begotten and So is chicken cannot beget nor it can begotten Correct? So Allah is chicken!

    • @JScholastic
      @JScholastic Рік тому +1

      @@childofgod4862 Allah Snackbar!

    • @ankur7773
      @ankur7773 Рік тому +5

      ABDUL KNOWS THE ✝️RU✝️H,
      IS AFRAID TO ACCEPT IT

    • @georgeo785
      @georgeo785 Рік тому

      Believes in 30 qurans

  • @khan30905
    @khan30905 Рік тому

    Mr Smith.
    وَمَا كَانَ لِنَفْسٍ أَن تُؤْمِنَ إِلَّا بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ ۚ وَيَجْعَلُ الرِّجْسَ عَلَى الَّذِينَ لَا يَعْقِلُونَ
    And it is not for a soul to believe except by permission of God,
    And the way of God is that those who do not use their wisdom, He☝ throw dirt on them.
    🗞 10 - 100

  • @JoshuaButler-b6p
    @JoshuaButler-b6p Рік тому

    "Has not been altered, edited, or tampered with..."
    Yeah, you can stop him right there. 20+ qiraat, conflicting source manuscripts, 200 years too late, etc.
    We have complete Bibles from the 3rd century onward that match what we have today, and I still have to argue for Biblical preservation. The Quran has abysmal textual history, and how ignored that is in academia is ridiculous.

  • @brucemoose926
    @brucemoose926 Рік тому

    Wait, one of the Quran verses quoted said "We..." so the Quran believes in the Trinity? :) I heard one of the hosts said that phrase was from the Torah.

  • @ethercruiser1537
    @ethercruiser1537 Рік тому +3

    So the Quran itself makes one claim (unchanged from what is on preserved tablets in heaven and god himself insures it remains unchanged) but reality on earth contradicts this claim repeatedly when you examine the Quran past and present! 😮

    • @user-tp3hg4se1s
      @user-tp3hg4se1s Рік тому

      The whole Quran is a book of eternal death and hell "Satan the master deceiver sticking his ugly head out the bottomless pit found his place in Islam here on this earth

    • @georgeo785
      @georgeo785 Рік тому

      Man made cult that follows the devil

    • @ethercruiser1537
      @ethercruiser1537 Рік тому

      @@defenderoftruth3212 Here you are trolling again and not listening to the evidence (=Cognitive Dissonance because Satan has blinded you). You can’t pay for your sins.

  • @Leo-yx7rk
    @Leo-yx7rk 9 місяців тому

    It has obviously been edited by many people, and over many years. It contains many contradictions, and many errors of fact. The only questions in my mind are whether the motivation for alteration was to improve it, or to degrade it? An optimistic perspective might suggest it was edited for the sake of improvement. This begs question as to just how bad it must have been in original form...

  • @kpamisrael2054
    @kpamisrael2054 Рік тому +1

    And if the Qur'an is saying "we" who is the "we" if not the Trinity😂😂😂

  • @ahler3973
    @ahler3973 Рік тому

    Gbu Dr

  • @iamthenotbenamed365
    @iamthenotbenamed365 Рік тому

    the Option to Change-Mind is a Sign-of-Intelligence (for All-in-Flux and No-THING re-main Same) ...

    • @georgeo785
      @georgeo785 Рік тому

      It's a man made cult that follows the devil

  • @ibrahimkunhi7238
    @ibrahimkunhi7238 Рік тому +4

    ❤❤❤

  • @saadthal4393
    @saadthal4393 Рік тому

    Paul clearly said that he used to lie to get converts.
    " If by my lie the truth is made more abundant, whenceforth am I being judged a sinner... :
    NO PROPHET SENT BY THE LORD AND CREATOR ever said that it is okay to lie to get converts.

  • @sajilsolomon4516
    @sajilsolomon4516 Рік тому

    Great!🙂

  • @bluesky45299
    @bluesky45299 Рік тому

    Quran (only scripture with 100% accuracy/preservation) says Allah is “Al-Ahad”(one/indivisible).Philosophically, It is impossible for 3 distinct perfections to exist simultaneously. Father (Perfection 1/distinct1) =Son (Perfection 2/distinct2)=idolatry.This is due to addition of two extra perfections that are Co-equal/Co-eternal&distinct with Allah(the most Exalted). Not just the Quran, but also the old/New Testament textually establish tauheed(monotheism). So, then why believe in trinity and associate two imaginary parts to Allah(one/indivisible/Self-Sufficient/All-Loving)? How could your love/worship be undivided/exclusive for Allah(the most Exalted) when there are two other equally unique/perfect entities to adore? The verses of bible used by trinitarians are extremely vague and require hard interpretation to extract the understanding that Father/Son/Holy Ghost are Co-equal/Co-Eternal&distinct.

  • @nycreviews5833
    @nycreviews5833 Рік тому

    People, let’s not start a religious war, it will not be good for neither of us, talk about what unite not what divide, we both believe in God and believe in holy books, and don’t call what Muslim believe in fake or worse. PLEASE.

  • @BijoyP-h2l
    @BijoyP-h2l Рік тому

    If it is real Muslim leaders must find the truth.

  • @georgeo785
    @georgeo785 Рік тому +1

    You know what the saying is without lies Islam dies.

  • @davidchase1439
    @davidchase1439 Рік тому +1

    Muslims which of the 37 arabic koran editions that differ among themselves 93000 times the eternal koran in heaven

  • @josephputres9210
    @josephputres9210 Рік тому +1

    even in arabic quran lies ana conducted and distort

  • @alphijosephk2266
    @alphijosephk2266 Рік тому

    "Quran" failed to clarify and explain the contents of its Chapters with the heading it given to each Chapter...!!! For example:-
    If the Heading of a Chapter is "Honeybee," but the Chapter explained about something else...!!!
    Quran's Vocabulary is so absurd..!!! One sentence of a chapter has no connection with the subsequent sentence…!!! How Quran was compiled…?!!! Quran’s Verses may be the verses of a mentally abnormal person…!!!

  • @BOSSDEN900
    @BOSSDEN900 3 місяці тому

    That's why qur'an preserved from the time of prophet Muhammad are hundreds or thousands hafiz master qur'an

  • @logicthought7636
    @logicthought7636 Рік тому

    Jews rejected Jesus(pbuh)....Christians rejected Muhammad(pbuh).....

  • @JoaoSoares-rs6ec
    @JoaoSoares-rs6ec 5 місяців тому

    Of course they lie that's the point.

  • @tariqmir181
    @tariqmir181 11 місяців тому

    Quran is a witness to its perfection.Does bible say that it is perfect or it has not changed.

  • @nazaharin
    @nazaharin Рік тому

    They are smart & intelligent in making lies ...

  • @prophetic_dreams_and_visions

    The guys who wrote the quran were clever chaps. Billions have fallen for that trick.

  • @rogeralsop3479
    @rogeralsop3479 Рік тому

    Dynamite!

  • @khan30905
    @khan30905 Рік тому

    Do you both have any other option ? if yes then prove it
    &
    prove it wrong
    👇
    مَّا الْمَسِيحُ ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ إِلَّا رَسُولٌ قَدْ خَلَتْ مِن قَبْلِهِ الرُّسُلُ وَأُمُّهُ صِدِّيقَةٌ ۖ كَانَا يَأْكُلَانِ الطَّعَامَ ۗ
    The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger Messengers have passed on before him
    And his mother was a supporter of truth.
    "They both used to eat food" 🍱🍜🍛🍝🍝🍝🍝🍚🍚🍚🍚
    Quran 5-75.
    One G-d - One 🗞

  • @IslamEducations
    @IslamEducations Рік тому +1

    Allah is Jesus!
    Muhammad says that Allah (Real Messiah) is not one-eyed and the antichrist is one-eyed! 👇
    Narrated Ibn `Umar:
    Once Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) stood amongst the people, glorified and praised Allah as He deserved and then mentioned the Dajjal saying, "l warn you against him (i.e. the Dajjal) and there was no prophet but warned his nation against him. No doubt, Noah warned his nation against him but I tell you about him something of which no prophet told his nation before me. You should know that he is one-eyed, and Allah is not one-eyed."
    حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدَانُ، أَخْبَرَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ، عَنْ يُونُسَ، عَنِ الزُّهْرِيِّ، قَالَ سَالِمٌ وَقَالَ ابْنُ عُمَرَ ـ رضى الله عنهما قَامَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فِي النَّاسِ فَأَثْنَى عَلَى اللَّهِ بِمَا هُوَ أَهْلُهُ، ثُمَّ ذَكَرَ الدَّجَّالَ، فَقَالَ ‏ "‏ إِنِّي لأُنْذِرُكُمُوهُ، وَمَا مِنْ نَبِيٍّ إِلاَّ أَنْذَرَهُ قَوْمَهُ، لَقَدْ أَنْذَرَ نُوحٌ قَوْمَهُ، وَلَكِنِّي أَقُولُ لَكُمْ فِيهِ قَوْلاً لَمْ يَقُلْهُ نَبِيٌّ لِقَوْمِهِ، تَعْلَمُونَ أَنَّهُ أَعْوَرُ، وَأَنَّ اللَّهَ لَيْسَ بِأَعْوَرَ ‏"‏‏.‏
    Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 3337

    • @user-tp3hg4se1s
      @user-tp3hg4se1s Рік тому

      I think the whole Quran is one big fat blastomy against the truine God

    • @user-tp3hg4se1s
      @user-tp3hg4se1s Рік тому

      Proves Allah according to Quran Allah can be a man but difference is only 1 eye

    • @tbishop4961
      @tbishop4961 Рік тому

      Allah is a mouse

  • @melchiormapa3597
    @melchiormapa3597 9 місяців тому

    The God, who said," IAM THE TRUTH". is wide awake,. No falsehood is unknown to Him.
    He is moving behind the scenes. His hand is on the internet.
    God is the Director.

  • @logicthought7636
    @logicthought7636 Рік тому

    Quran is not changed.
    Proof:I heard the Imam of Kaaba while reciting Quran verses.
    Note: I am not from Arab country.

  • @0786AHA
    @0786AHA Рік тому +1

    Islam keeps winning 😂😂💯☑️☑️☑️

  • @y.israe1917
    @y.israe1917 Рік тому

    Keep Barking 🐕
    Hellelujah ✝️🏴‍☠️👿🌈🐽 1:20 🍷🍾

  • @0786AHA
    @0786AHA Рік тому +1

    Fully Man fully God 💯 Con job 😂😂☑️☑️

  • @pomaspie4527
    @pomaspie4527 Рік тому

    This sounds like white noise

  • @jamalbaraja6130
    @jamalbaraja6130 8 місяців тому

    THE TRUTH IS THIS :
    EVEN IF JESUS CHRIST COMES DOWN AND TELLS THEM THEY ARE WRONG, THEY WILL ACCUSE HIM OF BEING MUSLIM AND A LIAR.
    BUT WHAT ?
    HE WAS A MUSLIM BECAUSE
    HE SUBMITTED TO THE WILL OF ALMIGHTY GOD.

  • @csmoviles
    @csmoviles Рік тому

    💝🙏💝🙏💝🙏💝🙏💝

  • @icecream_12
    @icecream_12 Рік тому

    Please have discussion with sahil and Adam seeker knowledgeable about EXMUSLIM movement in India....

    • @jesusforever4729
      @jesusforever4729 Рік тому

      Why? Indian Subcontinent muslims and the muslims of the West are completely different audiences. Adam has brought Jay Smith to his Urdu/Hindi livestream a few weeks back. But beyond that, there is no impact of Adam and Sahil work to the Western audiences.♥️👍✝️🤗🙏♥️

  • @peterbassey9668
    @peterbassey9668 7 місяців тому

    Debunking Islam in 2 seconds: Mary the mother of Jesus is the sister of Aaron (from the Old Testament) and her name is Maryam!!

  • @shahadathkadir
    @shahadathkadir Рік тому

    Is the Bible , the Book of Truth a BLATANT LIE ? " Therefore, look , the Lord has placed a lying spirit in all those prophets of yours & has declared disaster against you :. 1 Kings. 22 :23, THE LYING SPIRIT - In Mark. 16 :8. " Trembling & bewildered , the women rushed out & fled the tomb . They told NOTHING TO ANYONE , because they were afraid ". Matthew. 28 :8. " The women hurried away from the tomb , afraid , yet filled with joy , & ran to tell the disciples ". Lying Luke. 24 :9. " When the women came back , they told ALL THESE THINGS to the eleven & all the others ". This is how they lie to deceive .

    • @user-tp3hg4se1s
      @user-tp3hg4se1s Рік тому

      The omenous Spirit of Allah is for damage control to mislead people to Christ and get Saved
      Spiritually blind you and keep you away from your inherentance the kingdom of heaven that belongs to everyone, ., And follow him as there false god that leads to eternal death
      They are like positive and negative Spirit and energy and Jesus triumph over death so we can spend eternity with Him in the Kingdom of heaven 😊
      All true believers in the Lord Jesus Christ, who have been effectually called have been “sealed for the day of redemption” (Eph. 1:13-14), are being guarded through faith by God's power (1 Pet. 1:3-5), will be glorified (Rom. 8:29-30), and can never perish or be snatched from the Father's hand
      (A Kingdom where righteousness dwells)

    • @asifbrettishmaelmakki9
      @asifbrettishmaelmakki9 Рік тому

      1 KINGS 22:20 and the LORD said, 'Who will entice A'hab,that he may go up and fall at Ra'moth-gil'e•ad?'And one said one thing,and another said another.21 Then a spirit came forward and stood before the LORD, saying,'I will entice him.'22 And the LORD said to him, 'by what means?' And he said 'I will go forth,and will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.' And he said , ' You are to entice him, and you shall succeed; go forth and do so.' Rsv

  • @peaceforever9231
    @peaceforever9231 Рік тому

    Without lies Islam dies.

  • @fantasia55
    @fantasia55 Рік тому

    why so obsessed with Hatun's height?

  • @nakeebissadeen1606
    @nakeebissadeen1606 Рік тому

    What you failed to understand is that Quran is preserved in the hearts of the believers. When a Jew asked the Prophet (pbuh) to show the Quran he showed his companion Abdullah ibn Maswud who was a prominent Hafiz or the protector, meaning he memorised the whole Quran from the Prophet.
    There were hundreds of companions who had memorised the whole Quran at the time of prophet passed away. The manuscripts were written based on this memorisation. The Hafiz al Quran taught this to next generation and it continued until today. There are millions of Hafiz al Quran around the world, all reciting the quran without missing a dot.
    There is a special Islamic tradition until today to learn to recite exactly same way the Prophet (pbuh) recited. This is what Quran repeatedly says
    54:22
    But We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?
    Moreover the verse 15:9 you mentioned.
    We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption)
    Please note the Arabic word 'Haafidhoon' in this verse meaning guards is the same terminology used for those who memorised the whole Quran.
    Copying of manuscripts would have some human errors as it happened in the Gospels which Jay Smith had categorically agreed in his debate with Dr Shabir Aly that Gospels were edited and modified by the scribes with human errors and it's not inspired or the word of God but the word of God is only Jesus (?).

  • @midimusicforever
    @midimusicforever Рік тому

    Without lies, islam dies!

  • @Shamsi419
    @Shamsi419 Рік тому

    Without lies Islam dies

  • @Rahee11
    @Rahee11 Рік тому

    If you are saying the truth, why don't you take your evidence to European Research Commission they just gave one researcher 2,000,000 EUR to find errors in the Quran.

  • @masriembing70
    @masriembing70 Рік тому

    The harder you study with quran .the more fool you get..

  • @logicthought7636
    @logicthought7636 Рік тому

    West is scared.......Hahahahahahahha...

  • @pagangods5191
    @pagangods5191 Рік тому

    Holy - lots of holes

  • @LubnaRacalizedRacist
    @LubnaRacalizedRacist Рік тому

    Islam is the only true monotheistic religion
    Other religions on make the claim.

    • @hmao4466
      @hmao4466 Рік тому

      I doubt God allows his followers to murder, make slaves and marry 6 year Olds. Only Mo wanted these things because he was a dirty old f&$#er.

    • @_BillyMandalay
      @_BillyMandalay Рік тому +1

      Is that why your moon god is mono-lingual ?...

    • @LubnaRacalizedRacist
      @LubnaRacalizedRacist Рік тому

      @@_BillyMandalay last laugh is wid the Muslims 😆

    • @LubnaRacalizedRacist
      @LubnaRacalizedRacist Рік тому

      @@_BillyMandalay
      Lgbt singer is no1 on the christian charts 😆 you christos stand for nothing that Jesus preached

    • @jojojohn1452
      @jojojohn1452 Рік тому +1

      ​@@LubnaRacalizedRacistwith the Muslims 👍

  • @alphijosephk2266
    @alphijosephk2266 Рік тому

    By following Jesus Christ a person can become Spiritual Child (Spiritual Son/ Daughter) of True God.!!!
    But if any person follows Islam he/ she can only become a Slave of Islamic God Allah...!!!
    Only Spiritual Child (Spiritual Son/ Daughter) of God can enter in True Heaven...!!!
    Hence Jesus Christ Inviting and Welcoming all peoples of all Religions, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhist, Sikhs, Communists and even people not believing in God and Religions to follow Jesus
    Christ to become the Spiritual Child (Spiritual Son/ Daughter) of True God and make sure to enter in Heaven...!!!

  • @rafirashid2504
    @rafirashid2504 Рік тому

    Jay when Paul Williams called u a liar about lying about Islam u had nothing to say but behind closed doors u talk to much same with fardi Ahmed christen prince David woods

  • @nashside5669
    @nashside5669 Рік тому

    Who's the liar here , the one who travel to Africa and said he is a Muslim in other to convert Muslims to Christianity ? Jay Smith you , you people should be ashamed of themselves , you agree lied that prophet Muhammad pbum name was Qasim which is a lie , that was his son's name , shameless people

  • @aaronharun1394H
    @aaronharun1394H Рік тому +2

    If two people gave two different accounts of the same thing contradicting each other, then at least one of them is wrong or inaccurate.
    1. There are christians who claim Jesus is God.
    2. There are christians who claim Jesus is son of God and not God.
    3. There are christians who claim Jesus is both God and son of God.
    4. There are christians who believe Jesus is a man (not God, not son of God)
    Which is accurate?
    These are all major contradictions in the religion. Different factions occured since after the time of Jesus.
    The Quran is a Revelation from God and is the Criterion over the current bible(s).
    It consists of message for mankind including to Jews, Christians and polytheists.
    Message for mankind include warning mankind of their errors.

    • @CIRAInternational
      @CIRAInternational  Рік тому +20

      You must be confused… We don’t care what people think about Jesus! What matters is what the Word of God stated clearly about Jesus, and what Jesus declared about himself!
      On the other hand, the Quran is a book of contradictions and confusion!
      Do snap out of your laughable state of ignorance and read the Bible for yourself rather than concocting lies!

    • @user-tp3hg4se1s
      @user-tp3hg4se1s Рік тому +4

      Got to speak against the dragon (Allah) in your pathway
      Tell him (Satan) to go in Jesus name the name of Jesus is above all names
      "Authority above Satan is Jesus name" 😊
      Declare and degree the blood of Jesus and tell Satan he must go in Jesus mighty name and claim the blood of Jesus at the foot of the cross is our place of victory ➕✨
      Repent SIN forgive other Paul said " thanks be to God, we are more than conquerors through our Lord Jesus Christ who loves us

    • @aaronharun1394H
      @aaronharun1394H Рік тому

      Christians should follow Jesus and solely pray to the one God who Jesus prayed to.
      In the Gospels is mentioned that Jesus prays to.
      Jesus praying to God is clear evidence that Jesus is not and should not be regarded as the one God.
      There is only one God.
      Jesus prays to the one God means that Jesus needs and relies on the one God.
      The one God is the most High and is Free of Need. The one God does not rely on anyone.
      On the contrary everyone and everything needs and relies on the one God who created and has Power over everything.
      The one God is the most High and is the one who should be prayed to, not someone who prays to.
      Jesus prayed to the same one God who Mary prayed to.
      Mary did not pray to baby Jesus in her womb.
      Jesus did not pray to Jesus.
      Jesus prayed to the one God.
      Jesus is NOT the one God.

    • @user-tp3hg4se1s
      @user-tp3hg4se1s Рік тому +3

      Holy devine prayer God the Father Son and Holy Spirit talked to each other communication is what prayer is...Christians invited Christ into there hearts and God imparted the Holy Ghost inside us to help us communicate with the father of lights
      Christians serve pray and believe in just one God 😊 Father Son Holy Spirit
      The omenous Spirit of Allah is not a part of the equation

    • @user-tp3hg4se1s
      @user-tp3hg4se1s Рік тому

      ​​@@aaronharun1394HJames 2:19 even Satan tremble at our one true God Jesus 😁
      Be not deceived 😁 by Allah fake god powerless
      "And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him"
      That was a Commandment filthy sinners purify your hearts
      ✨😬
      Everyone one makes there own decisions God gave you the free will between good and evil
      Heaven or hell
      Jesus clearly taught that sinners were condemned in sin and would perish and go to hell if they didn't believe in Him as their Savior (John 3:16
      Acts 4:12
      Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved 😊 ✨
      Jesus is Gods royal son 💪 all Judgement is given in his hands to Judge the living and dead wicked rebellious Spirits all powers Lords kings and demonic Spirit's and everyone will bow to him and confess Jesus is Lord including fake god Allah powerless the omenous Spirit moon 🌙 😡cult deceiver CRUSHED under the feet of Jesus for eternity
      And death and hell was cast alive into the lake of fire
      Thank God 😊
      Jesus is coming soon
      Revelation 1:18
      18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

  • @shahadathkadir
    @shahadathkadir Рік тому +2

    Over 2 billion Muslims from all across the globe say the same prayers ,word for word , in the same manner , from the same Quran , to the same God , Allah . Over 2 million Muslims from all over the world , Asia , America , Europe , Africa , Australia has memorized the same Quran , letter for letter , word for word , This would have been impossible , if there were not one Quran .

    • @georgeo785
      @georgeo785 Рік тому

      The same lies they are told to say not billions but they are brainwashed by a man made cult that follows the devil

  • @sgt.grinch3299
    @sgt.grinch3299 Рік тому

    Another Pagan lie

  • @alonzoharris9049
    @alonzoharris9049 Рік тому +2

    Jay Smith believes in three gods.

    • @hiddeninplainsight9131
      @hiddeninplainsight9131 Рік тому +7

      Alonzo Harris believes that angels forcefully squeeze people and leave them wondering if they had actually encountered a demon rather than an angel 🤷

    • @alonzoharris9049
      @alonzoharris9049 Рік тому

      @@hiddeninplainsight9131
      You believe angels abuse people with light. You believe they make people blind.
      Paul got abused in your bible.

    • @hiddeninplainsight9131
      @hiddeninplainsight9131 Рік тому +4

      @@alonzoharris9049 No that's not what I believe, and that's not how that narrative actually goes. But I get that you can't defend the demonic nature to the origin of your "prophet's" recitations, so you have to create a strawman just to cope 😳

    • @alonzoharris9049
      @alonzoharris9049 Рік тому

      @@hiddeninplainsight9131
      Paul didn’t get abused?
      He was not physically abused by a light from the ‘angel’ Jesus?
      Paul didn’t claim that Jesus is an angel in his letters?
      The book of acts doesn’t claim that Paul got abused by a light and got blinded?
      I made that up?

    • @hiddeninplainsight9131
      @hiddeninplainsight9131 Рік тому +3

      @@alonzoharris9049 Where is the word abuse mentioned?
      Did Paul ever actually say that he took this as abuse? Or are you just fishing for reasons to paint it that way to validate yourself?
      Was Paul not murdering Christians when he became blind?
      Did God not give him proper punishment for murdering innocent people, and then HEAL his blindness 3 days later after he had a change of heart?
      Sounds like basic discipline to me
      Also, "angel" just means messenger.
      In the old testament "THE" angel of the Lord appeared to people and literally spoke as God in first person.
      Why would an angel speak as God himself?
      Because this "messenger" was God's very Word, Jesus, the only begotten of the Father.

  • @watchman4todayreloaded192
    @watchman4todayreloaded192 Рік тому

    Not one letter of the Quran has been changed? Then why do we find a thousand extra alifs that were added to the Quran? A thousand extra alifs have been added to the Quran, but when these were first added they didn't want to change the underlying text so instead of writing full alifs they wrote what are called dagger alifs. We can find one of these in the very first surah of the Quran in verse 2 we find of the worlds/universe ٱلْعَـٰلَمِينَ look carefully at this word and you see only three full long lines. Look very very closely and reading right to left just before the third long stroke there is in this version a thin little line (in other versions it looks a little like an exclamation mark). The problem with this is that people don't use these dagger alifs when writing normal Arabic - they use them when someone has missed out an alif that should be in the text. so, with the dagger alifs, it looks like someone has been correctlin Allah's spelling.
    For this reason quranwow.com has now rewritten the text with full alifs so now the word reads الْعَالَمِين with four clear long strokes. This does not in Muslim minds, alter the meaning of the text, but it clearly shows where the alifs were added in the past and the modern version, when contrasted with old shows the difference clearly.
    Muslims that do find themselves having to comment on this try to claim that it makes no difference, but other scholars suggest that it might have other reasons for such changes - namely that it actually obscures the meaning of the underlying text in many places and that some, at least, of the words and phrases are not really Arabic at all, but Aramaic.