Wikipedia's explanation (see link in the info section) is rather far-fetched. Maybe it was just used as incidental music for a play titled ''Il filisofo'' in Modena in 1790...
Nancy Mohass There is no real right answer to this as nobody knows how or why the nickname originated. The most likely theory is that the symphony (1764) was used as incidental music to a play called ‘Il filosofo inglese’ by Goldoni when it was performed in Vienna as ‘Die Philosophinnen’ in December 1764. The nickname does in fact quite accurately reflect the mood and character of the symphony, the first movement in particular. ‘Philosophy’ [Recte: ‘Philosopher’]
The orchestration of this symphony is both very simple and original: strings, two English horns and two natural horns, very widely used 'mainly through the technique of successive entries, since subtle tones mixes are not possible with such a restricted set of instruments.. All in all, there entries are very well balanced, so the architecture of the different movements is perfect. Btw, I have no dea about where the idea of the two E;H come from. As far as I may know,, it is the sole example in Haydn's works, and except quite minor and fully anecdote Small Works, we shall not retrieve it Begoro the splendidly romantic use by Berlioz , who obviously influenced Wagner from "Diefl iegende Hollander"'to the famous solo in "Tristan and Isolde.And further on the instrument will come in France with outstanding uses in Stravinsky(s 'Sacre du Printemps"(the composer was French at hat time, and Debussy and Ravel.
(1764) Il titolo "il filosofo" non è di Haydn, ma compare già su partiture stampate quando egli era ancora in vita. E' perciò verosimile che il compositore abbia tollerato l'aggiunta fatta da un editore, autorizzando l'ipotesi che si tratti in realtà di uno dei caratteri morali che intese descrivere in alcune sinfonie. E se questa opera può definirsi "filosofica", è soltanto per via del primo tempo, un adagio particolarmente espressivo e contemplativo, ricalcato, come del resto tutta la sinfonia, sul modello della precedente. Da notare in primo luogo lo strumentale che comprende, al posto degli oboi abituali due corni inglesi. E' un felice esperimento sui timbri orchestrali, che Haydn inspiegabilmente non ripeterà più nel corso di tutta la sua carriera. LDC
“It is a work of light and original craftsmanship, rich in surprising effects; keep an eye on the 1st movement’s curious timbric paste, in which two english horns and two horns unravel their motifs on a background of muted violins”.
I discover this music by Joseph. But can you give information about the painting used in the video? It looks like a architectural plan by Ledoux (engraving transposed in painting)
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There are no oboes in this symphony. Haydn’s Symphony 22 is unique in that the two oboes are in fact replaced by two cor anglais; listen again, and you will hear a clear difference, particularly in the first movement where the two unusual instruments work particularly well.
One of the more underrated Haydn symphonies. Horns and winds are great in this one and you know Haydn loved his winds.
Someone has named this "Philosophy " or the philosopher , any explanation for this title ?
Wikipedia's explanation (see link in the info section) is rather far-fetched. Maybe it was just used as incidental music for a play titled ''Il filisofo'' in Modena in 1790...
Nancy Mohass
There is no real right answer to this as nobody knows how or why the nickname originated.
The most likely theory is that the symphony (1764) was used as incidental music to a play called ‘Il filosofo inglese’ by Goldoni when it was performed in Vienna as ‘Die Philosophinnen’ in December 1764.
The nickname does in fact quite accurately reflect the mood and character of the symphony, the first movement in particular.
‘Philosophy’ [Recte: ‘Philosopher’]
The orchestration of this symphony is both very simple and original: strings, two English horns and two natural horns, very widely used 'mainly through the technique of successive entries, since subtle tones mixes are not possible with such a restricted set of instruments.. All in all, there entries are very well balanced, so the architecture of the different movements is perfect. Btw, I have no dea about where the idea of the two E;H come from. As far as I may know,, it is the sole example in Haydn's works, and except quite minor and fully anecdote Small Works, we shall not retrieve it Begoro the splendidly romantic use by Berlioz , who obviously influenced Wagner from "Diefl iegende Hollander"'to the famous solo in "Tristan and Isolde.And further on the instrument will come in France with outstanding uses in Stravinsky(s 'Sacre du Printemps"(the composer was French at hat time, and Debussy and Ravel.
(1764) Il titolo "il filosofo" non è di Haydn, ma compare già su partiture stampate quando egli era ancora in vita. E' perciò verosimile che il compositore abbia tollerato l'aggiunta fatta da un editore, autorizzando l'ipotesi che si tratti in realtà di uno dei caratteri morali che intese descrivere in alcune sinfonie. E se questa opera può definirsi "filosofica", è soltanto per via del primo tempo, un adagio particolarmente espressivo e contemplativo, ricalcato, come del resto tutta la sinfonia, sul modello della precedente. Da notare in primo luogo lo strumentale che comprende, al posto degli oboi abituali due corni inglesi. E' un felice esperimento sui timbri orchestrali, che Haydn inspiegabilmente non ripeterà più nel corso di tutta la sua carriera. LDC
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Genio absoluto , maravilloso Haydn ; esos cornos ingleses son soberbios !!!
The third movement horns are simply magnificent. This symphony would make a perfect first half to Beethovens 9th.
This Symphony has an alternative version, with different inner movements. There is a recording of both versions by Antal Dorati.
The second movement is a bit similar to the first movement of the Symphony No. 87.
really inventive orchestral coloring in the opening
“It is a work of light and original craftsmanship, rich in surprising effects; keep an eye on the 1st movement’s curious timbric paste, in which two english horns and two horns unravel their motifs on a background of muted violins”.
I discover this music by Joseph. But can you give information about the painting used in the video? It looks like a architectural plan by Ledoux (engraving transposed in painting)
Presto
8:34 is like Sonata D major by Haydn
I’m learning that sonata now. It sounds similar to the part in the development section
Pretty meaningless comment as Haydn wrote about 8 sonatas in D major; you need to add the Hoboken number.
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It is this from Haydn:
ua-cam.com/video/wRFal0787vk/v-deo.html
Watch this Sonata from 2:34 and compare it with the Symphony
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Thank you.
And for anyone else interested:
Sonata in D major Hob. XVI:37
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last movement too fast for the horns and oboes... very unrhythmic und unclear
There are no oboes in this symphony.
Haydn’s Symphony 22 is unique in that the two oboes are in fact replaced by two cor anglais; listen again, and you will hear a clear difference, particularly in the first movement where the two unusual instruments work particularly well.