The Lexar 1000x is a V60 card - this means that the minimum write speed is 60 MB / s. I use this type card on my G7 4K 30fps, on full time of recording 29" 59'
I think the catch is V spesification of the sd card which is V60 for the lexar, which means minimum 60 megabyte per second data transfer is guaranteed. As for GH5's 400 mbit (50 megabyte) stream, V60 provides enough speed. Not all Lexar 1000x are V60 quality from what I see from pictures of sd cards, thats why everybody has different experiences. More expensive sd cards may have higher write/read speeds but they do not necessarily guarantee minimum V60 stream which is necessay for gh5 400 mbit. But maybe I'm mistaken :)
looking at the Sandisk Extreme Pro 64GB 95MB/s SDXC I (3) [10] ... if I understand this correctly the 95MB/s is what it can read at NOT write, might be able to write up to 95MB/s but can't necessarily sustain that. To the right of the SDXC is a V30 (again if I got this right) that the V30 means that the card will never WRITE below 30MB/s (That's MegaBytes ppl) and to sustain 4K as Lee points out you need 50MB/s consistently or oh it drops it. I've just spent 2 hours reading about SD cards if you can' tell - lol!
I have the Lexar 64GB SDXC U II (10) 150MB/s 1000x cards.. Two of them, and have NEVER had an issue with them in the GH5. I also just bought the same brand and type of cards, but the larger 128GB versions, and also have never had any issues w/ them in the GH5. I also format the card in the camera, before I press record on anything, never had an issue.
I just wanted to make a suggestion. Would you please try the Lexar 1000x again with "C4K, 400M, 422 ALL-I" only change from recording in "MOV" to recording in "MP4 LPCM". I have been having the same problem as you getting to only about 10min before it cuts off will recording in the MOV wrapper, but when I tried switching to MP4 LPCM with no other changes it works every time. I have so far tested this on 2 Lexar 1000x 256GB cards with GH5 on firmware 2.0 and 2.2.
I think the answer is within IOPS. These controllers can generally handle very few operations per second. While one large file can be written at 100s of MB it doesnt mean that a containered video stream can be updated that fast on the fly.
UHS is not a rating it is a connector, the GH5 limits its UHS-I connector to 40MB/s. Your UHS-II 2000x card is an SDHC which still writes in 4GB sectors, it needs to be an SDXC. I don't know why your 1000x is only getting 10mins, that means it is dropping below 50MB/s, maybe you got a bad card. (Looks like some of the Lexar 2000x/1000x and Delkin V90 UHS-II cards are limited to 40MB/s UHS-I speeds in the GH5.)
Will the 64gb ADATA work vs ADATA 128gb i.e. is 128 gb sweet spot for GH5 ? ADATA Premier ONE 64GB SDXC UHS-II U3 Class10 V90 3D NAND 4K 8K Ultra HD 290MB/s SD Card (ASDX64GUII3CL10-C)
The Sony 128gb M Series UHS II is so perfect for that. it has writing speed of 100mb and reading of 260mb for 100$. i bought it for my GH5 and it works flawlessly with recording ALL-I 400mbps. 40+minutes non stop. Not forgetting the quality of Sony. it just shits on Delkins and Lexar. those 2 got cheap ass quality and they got youtubers marketing them but they suck. Get you Sony M Series 128gb for 100$ and it will do the job. and you don't even need to go for Sony G Series with writing speed of 300mb it just an overkill trust me. i got my 2 SDXC cards Sony 128gb M Series and im so happy i made that purchase. i just wrote this review because i remember how much of struggle it was for me to choose the right sdxc card watching videos telling me i should get v90 Delkins and all that bullshit. So i just want to help out anyone who want to buy an SD card. Sony M Series is the way to go. i will be uploading a video soon testing them and you will see how amazing those SD cards are. Stay away from Lexar and Delkins. over prices and cheaply made
@Dziordan1 I studied the reviews, and came to the conclusion that the least complaints about the SF-M128T / T were from Sony. And she has a solid case.
I actually have a 64 gig lexar 1000 Mark II and the 128 gig card. So far I have never had to keep the camera shooting that long. But this video is very helpful and now I know what to look for when I come into his shoot that requires me to record for long periods of time.
The Sony 128gb M Series UHS II is so perfect for that. it has writing speed of 100mb and reading of 260mb for 100$. i bought it for my GH5 and it works flawlessly with recording ALL-I 400mbps. 40+minutes non stop. Not forgetting the quality of Sony. it just shits on Delkins and Lexar. those 2 got cheap ass quality and they got youtubers marketing them but they suck. Get you Sony M Series 128gb for 100$ and it will do the job. and you don't even need to go for Sony G Series with writing speed of 300mb it just an overkill trust me. i got my 2 SDXC cards Sony 128gb M Series and im so happy i made that purchase. i just wrote this review because i remember how much of struggle it was for me to choose the right sdxc card watching videos telling me i should get v90 Delkins and all that bullshit. So i just want to help out anyone who want to buy an SD card. Sony M Series is the way to go and it will save you so much money and without sacrificing the quality.
I have 2 of the expensive cards you returned, Extreme Pro 128 GB 300 mb/s and they have no issues with 4K 4:2:2 10 bit All-i 400 mbps recording. I can get 84 minutes of continuous recording no problem. Yes they are very expensive... I bought one card at Henry's in London Ontario for about $450 then I looked on B&H Photo's website and they were charging only $350 Canadian for the exact same card so I got my second one from them. I can not record to both cards at the same time at 400 mb/s, when I try it says "cards must be exactly the same for dual recording"... they are the exact same cards and dual recording works fine for 4K 10 bit 150 mbps video and everything else including FHD All-i 60 fps 200 mbps. I am happy with these cards and I darn well better be for what I paid for them. Anyone interested in buying these cards check out the prices at B&H to compare before you buy. I bought these a year ago so the prices may have changed. Thanks for the upload.
Those speeds on the packaging and cards, which are "peak" write and read speeds, have nothing to do with what is required for the GH5 400Mbps format which is a minimum "sustained" write speed of 50Mb/s.
100% agree with you. They always hide an ** in there in the fine print and you'll see stuff like min speed 30mbs or something. But It still doesnt really answer the why the Lexar 1000x will run for way longer than the 2000x given its x2 the speed. The only thing I can think of is capacity. For some strange reason that 128gb matters.
I feel like if you could run an external monitor then you're best best is just to get an Atomos Ninja Inferno and record to SSD's, thats unless you cant use the external monitor. Personally I'll be getting that external monitor for my GH5.
Higher-end SD cards have longer SUSTAINED write speeds. This means a 60MB/s can beat a 120MB/s card if the former is designed for longer sustained write speeds. The cameras cache size also plays an important factor into the qaulity and speed of writing to a SD card. Also, camera companies will limit write speeds based on its class so for instance, even though your UHS-I card states it can write 60MB/s the camera will still limit it to lower write speeds. Lastly, Panasonic limits UHS-I card write speeds and this is likely due to setting it based on testing their cameras using the slowest UHS-I card(s) and optimising them to a certian write speed threshold. Other camera companies clearly do not care to test cards on any level so they stay within the 100-200mbps (12-25MB/s) write speed barrier to stay on the safe side. The GH5 shoots above its weight class because Panasonic keeps finding new ways to optimize it to go further than it was orginally performing. Efficient and clever coding can go a long ways.
Lee, glad I found an old video. Whatever happened to that Mac Pro dude? I enjoyed your testing method to see how good these cards were. I would have dared you to keep that 500 dollar card but now they don't cost that. Keep these videos coming brother.
The Sony 128gb M Series UHS II is so perfect for that. it has writing speed of 100mb and reading of 260mb for 100$. i bought it for my GH5 and it works flawlessly with recording ALL-I 400mbps. 40+minutes non stop. Not forgetting the quality of Sony. it just shits on Delkins and Lexar. those 2 got cheap ass quality and they got youtubers marketing them but they suck. Get you Sony M Series 128gb for 100$ and it will do the job. and you don't even need to go for Sony G Series with writing speed of 300mb it just an overkill trust me. i got my 2 SDXC cards Sony 128gb M Series and im so happy i made that purchase. i just wrote this review because i remember how much of struggle it was for me to choose the right sdxc card watching videos telling me i should get v90 Delkins and all that bullshit. So i just want to help out anyone who want to buy an SD card. Sony M Series is the way to go
@@MatriouseThaGod2k hey, looking back today what sd card would you recommend for example for the Canon R6 or Sony A7siii (best bang for the buck that is capable)
Try formatting the 1000x card on your PC, using the same file system the camera formats, but DON'T do the quick format. Do a full format. You may be running into a bad sector, causing the camera to abort. If that doesn't help, you might have a problem with your camera. Also, did you try recording to the other card slot? Any difference there? Good luck!
Well, this speed writen on cards doesn't matter. It's better to look at V standard. V means Video and this standard shows actual constant writing speed of this cards. For 400mbps we need V60 (there is no V50)
Just a heads up I don't believe this video is wrong but I do believe that there is a quality control issue with these. I can barely get 4k 10bit 150mb recording on my Lexar 1000 card. Also the amount of time it takes for the files to complete writing is pretty bad and had caused me to miss some important shots. Just pay the money and get a Angel Bird card.
I think Max recommended the Sony M series SD cards for the 400 mbs codec. You can get them in a two pack 128 gigs so I took the plunge because I could return if they didn't work. So I tried it on a local shops GH5 at the 23.98 DCI and recorded the full card. No glitches or drop outs.. But you are right most people will likely not do a continuous record for a full card so under 10 min is likely fine.
Hi My Lexar 128GB x1000 does not work properly and I've contacted Panasonic. They tell that Lexar is not good enough and can not get 10bit / 400mbps without risk of lost frames or movie chopping. They recommend UHS II Sandisk, Samsung, Sony, Delkin, Transcend and Hoodmann. You can not use BlackMagic for anything as speeds are not approaching the use of GH5. Lexar is lying about their speeds. The highest speed measured is read 82mb / s write 52mb / s.
All these read & write speeds are only relevant when transfering data beween card and computer (its marketing pure) The only thing which describes the internal recording speed is the class 10, v3, and U3
I haven't had any trouble recording 400 Mbps with the 128 GB Sony M series UHS-II cards. The GH5 breaks the recording up into multiple clips before it hits 96 GB if you record continuously (effectively making the maximum clip length about 34 minutes), but it just starts another clip if you don't stop it, so you can continue recording until the memory card fills at about 42 minutes. You can get a two-pack on B&H for $184 ($92 single) and take advantage of the GH5's dual card slots to relay record, giving yourself 84 minutes of continuous recording. However, I've found that the backup record function doesn't work with these cards in 400 Mbps (I get an error message saying it needs two identical cards, even when I am using two identical cards), but it works just fine at all other bitrates. I have no idea why that happens. Other than that, I've had no problems. I've also heard the FreeTail Evoke Pro 1000x they sell on Amazon for $74 will work, but I haven't tried it.
Just tested my Lexar 1000x 150 card 64gig in 4k all-I 400mbps 422 10bit 23.98 and it recorded 20 minutes filling the card at 20 minutes 40 seconds. It stopped and showed disk full.
The Sony 128gb M Series UHS II is so perfect for that. it has writing speed of 100mb and reading of 260mb for 100$. i bought it for my GH5 and it works flawlessly with recording ALL-I 400mbps. 40+minutes non stop. Not forgetting the quality of Sony. it just shits on Delkins and Lexar. those 2 got cheap ass quality and they got youtubers marketing them but they suck. Get you Sony M Series 128gb for 100$ and it will do the job. and you don't even need to go for Sony G Series with writing speed of 300mb it just an overkill trust me. i got my 2 SDXC cards Sony 128gb M Series and im so happy i made that purchase. i just wrote this review because i remember how much of struggle it was for me to choose the right sdxc card watching videos telling me i should get v90 Delkins and all that bullshit. So i just want to help out anyone who want to buy an SD card. Sony M Series is the way to go
Thanks! I have a trouble with Lexar x1000 128Gb. After pushing play on gh5, I waiting so long before I can watch recorded video. Do you have the same? Sorry for my English.
Long-term Lexar reality check: The Longsys-era Lexar Professional 1000x cards are extremely prone to manufacturing flaws that make them extremely unstable and prone to corruption upon attempting to save footage. Lexar is also refusing to warranty the cards and are issuing refunds - furthermore, they are WITHHOLDING refunds citing investigation by the US Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS). I've been waiting well over five months for an RMA card to be refunded. They also claim that they cannot send the RMA'ed card back because of CFIUS, so you're SOL either way. Wouldn't touch a Lexar card for all the tea in China. But I probably wouldn't get the tea for a year, thanks to CFIUS.
There are some reports that the 1000x is not working for some people (giving them max 5 seconds) I would be careful telling people that a card that doesn't meet Panasonic specified V60 or V90 card works.. You may end up with some very upset GH5 users.
matt brown lots of people saying they are getting 42mins out of their 1000x cards. I can't get that. But I can successfuly hit 10mins at a time all day long. I assume not every card is created equal. I'm gonna check out the adata v90 card next.
Search UA-cam for "GH5 V90 UHS-II SD Card Fail" by "uwave" then scroll to Michael Lasoff's comment, and see the second reply by uwave. A huge amount of info. Summary: Gray SONY SF-M128 SD card works fine. I'm preparing a B&H order for one right now based on that reply, and a "Lexar Professional USB 3.0 Dual-Slot Reader (UDMA 7)" too, even though LEXAR is now defunct because reviews of SD card readers I've seen put that reader at the top.
The lexar 1000x SDXC UHS-II 128GB card has a minimum writing speed of 30MB/s(V30). 400mbps is ~ 50MB/s, so it probably drops the speed below 50MB/s at some time and thats why you cannot record longer?
From experience, my 128 ExtremePRO 300MB's works flawlessly. Don't do shortcuts when it comes to SD Cards. one failed gig is much more expensive and embarrassing than just having to bite the bullet.
I realize this video is over a year old now. My story with the Lexar 1000x cards is a bad one. After using them for a while i discovered that on the GH5 these cards were actually corrupting the video files over time. Also, Write speeds are significantly underrated compared to the spec'd rates from some reviewers. I had rates 34 MB and in one case 21MB sustained write rates. Avoid these cards if you care at all about your data. Oh and the LExar 1000x cards only Read at UHS-II. They do not WRITE at UHS-II only UHS-I and the write speed is horrible on the GH5. I've learned this the hard way. Also, Lexar's warranty treats the customers as second class citizens so don't expect any great warranty support for what is labeled a professional product.
I'd imagine you've only tested these cards but just curious if you knew any SD cards that are 100 percent to work at all times and no errors. I'm doing event videography and I'd hate if my stuff crashed during a wedding. Anything you've read or recommended? Obviously cheaper would be nice but I guess you get what you pay for. I'm leaning towards Sandisk cards but just wanted to hear your thoughts before purchasing.
I know this is an odd question, but do you think even as a stills shooter that the GH5 with a speed booster would be better than the 6D Mark II? I got rid of my A6500 just because of the frustrating menu system and the crap battery life. I'm not sure if the GH5 would be a better experience.
WarChortle For stills I would still choose a 6Dmkii any day. While I love the gh5 and everything it can do. Nothing beats the look of full frame. Even with a speedbooster you will not have the same low light performance you will get with a full frame camera as well. Unfortunately there is no perfect camera.
I bought the similar Lexar 128GB SDXC UHS-II cards and mu GH5 rejected the cards and its asking me to change the cards. its not even working. to my surprise they dont even have a 2nd row of pins. So whats Lexar doing im not sure.
Hi i Have the same lexar 150MB/s 1000x but in 32GB and i havn't all posibility of GH5 . I havn't 400 Mbps 4k or C4k , I havn't FHD 180p. I just have 4k 30p 4k 24p FHD 60/30/24p and i don't understand why ...
Yann Res That has nothing to do with the card. You have to be recording in Mov. And you need to make sure your firmware is the newest version that just came out (v2.0) in order to shoot at 400mbps
format your new cards in the camera it's going to be used in. not sure if that's superstition but i've always done this and never had issues. can't speak for gh5 though.. so... ye
I have Transcend memory card SDXC 64GB 700S UHS-II U3 V90 memory card and in slot 1 it stops writing around 10-15 seconds, if I put the same card into slot 2, then I can record over 1 minute in ALL-i format :D
ANGEL CASTRO yeah I love it. I was gonna push out a rushed review when I first got it then decided to wait and do a better full review. I should have it out sometime in October.
Just received two new Lexar 64 1000x cards for my brand new as well gh5, I have formatted them via computer and after installing them in the camera .. message error says "insert SD card again" it will not let me format it in the camera, both cards doing the same thing. Then I place the original ultra plus 64 card in and works fine. Any suggestions here
card works great overall on standard fps, but on vfr it freezes, even on 25fps and clip is lost after that, one time I lost all my footage on a card after that freeze
I habe the Lexar 1000x 128 GB... But when I record 4K video's on my Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZF1000 the recordings randomly stop sometimes.... Is that the SD card wich is too slow? Or is ghere a camera setting to fix it? Thanks for all help already.
Well in my case I bought this card and it stopped working after 1 week of use. Was so pissed cause I threw out the receipt thinking what would happen to such a cool card.
Great video, now I’m really not sure if it’s capacity or write read speed that’s crazy. And man that 128GB San Disk being $500 is ridiculous lol. 😂 at least you’ve got the 10 min ability with that lexar and saves you a ton of money. Personally I rarely shoot clips above 10 mins
Fuk that i use scandisk extreme 95mbs. And shoot 150mbs 4k my card works fine for 2hrs straight . Moral of story is 400mbs doesn’t give you more quality do your research 400 mbs is for green screen keying work not for normal shootings such as vlogs , music video , weddings
The Lexar 1000x is a V60 card - this means that the minimum write speed is 60 MB / s. I use this type card on my G7 4K 30fps, on full time of recording 29" 59'
I think the catch is V spesification of the sd card which is V60 for the lexar, which means minimum 60 megabyte per second data transfer is guaranteed. As for GH5's 400 mbit (50 megabyte) stream, V60 provides enough speed.
Not all Lexar 1000x are V60 quality from what I see from pictures of sd cards, thats why everybody has different experiences.
More expensive sd cards may have higher write/read speeds but they do not necessarily guarantee minimum V60 stream which is necessay for gh5 400 mbit.
But maybe I'm mistaken :)
looking at the Sandisk Extreme Pro 64GB 95MB/s SDXC I (3) [10] ... if I understand this correctly the 95MB/s is what it can read at NOT write, might be able to write up to 95MB/s but can't necessarily sustain that. To the right of the SDXC is a V30 (again if I got this right) that the V30 means that the card will never WRITE below 30MB/s (That's MegaBytes ppl) and to sustain 4K as Lee points out you need 50MB/s consistently or oh it drops it. I've just spent 2 hours reading about SD cards if you can' tell - lol!
I have the Lexar 64GB SDXC U II (10) 150MB/s 1000x cards.. Two of them, and have NEVER had an issue with them in the GH5. I also just bought the same brand and type of cards, but the larger 128GB versions, and also have never had any issues w/ them in the GH5. I also format the card in the camera, before I press record on anything, never had an issue.
Have two of the Lexar 1000x 128gb cards. My GH5 gives full 42 minutes at 400mb 24p on each card.Bought from Amazon UK.
Just tested my lexar 1000x 256gb in cinema 4k all-i 400mbps and 6k anamorphic 200mbps HEVC for 35 minutes no problems at all.
Insanity man some people are lucky with their cards and some are not. That's awesome!
I just wanted to make a suggestion. Would you please try the Lexar 1000x again with "C4K, 400M, 422 ALL-I" only change from recording in "MOV" to recording in "MP4 LPCM". I have been having the same problem as you getting to only about 10min before it cuts off will recording in the MOV wrapper, but when I tried switching to MP4 LPCM with no other changes it works every time. I have so far tested this on 2 Lexar 1000x 256GB cards with GH5 on firmware 2.0 and 2.2.
buying this because i only do 30 sec takes in wedding and video clips
I think the answer is within IOPS. These controllers can generally handle very few operations per second. While one large file can be written at 100s of MB it doesnt mean that a containered video stream can be updated that fast on the fly.
That's where the marketing usually cheats us...
If you use a V60 or V90 rated cards as the gh5 manual recomends you will not have any problems running as long as you want on 10 bit 422 400 mbps
j'ai la 2000x V90 II et ça ne fonctionne pas..
UHS is not a rating it is a connector, the GH5 limits its UHS-I connector to 40MB/s. Your UHS-II 2000x card is an SDHC which still writes in 4GB sectors, it needs to be an SDXC. I don't know why your 1000x is only getting 10mins, that means it is dropping below 50MB/s, maybe you got a bad card.
(Looks like some of the Lexar 2000x/1000x and Delkin V90 UHS-II cards are limited to 40MB/s UHS-I speeds in the GH5.)
Peter Kent hard to say. Some ppl say they cant get more then 12sec with the 1000x card
Will the 64gb ADATA work vs ADATA 128gb i.e. is 128 gb sweet spot for GH5 ?
ADATA Premier ONE 64GB SDXC UHS-II U3 Class10 V90 3D NAND 4K 8K Ultra HD 290MB/s SD Card (ASDX64GUII3CL10-C)
I ordered the 128gb version. I dont see why the 64gb wouldnt work if its rated as a v90 card. you will only get like 20mins on a 64gb card though.
The Sony 128gb M Series UHS II is so perfect for that. it has writing speed of 100mb and reading of 260mb for 100$. i bought it for my GH5 and it works flawlessly with recording ALL-I 400mbps. 40+minutes non stop. Not forgetting the quality of Sony. it just shits on Delkins and Lexar. those 2 got cheap ass quality and they got youtubers marketing them but they suck. Get you Sony M Series 128gb for 100$ and it will do the job. and you don't even need to go for Sony G Series with writing speed of 300mb it just an overkill trust me. i got my 2 SDXC cards Sony 128gb M Series and im so happy i made that purchase. i just wrote this review because i remember how much of struggle it was for me to choose the right sdxc card watching videos telling me i should get v90 Delkins and all that bullshit. So i just want to help out anyone who want to buy an SD card. Sony M Series is the way to go. i will be uploading a video soon testing them and you will see how amazing those SD cards are. Stay away from Lexar and Delkins. over prices and cheaply made
its about 282 Dollars Bro..
the bottleneck is the u3 rating on the 2000x lexar card. The actual write performance is more like 30 Megabytes/sec =240 megabits/sec
I have this Lexar 128Gb 1000x. On GH5 it randomly stops. Sometimes 9 minutes, sometimes only 6 seconds((
my 1667x Lexar is similar problems
@Dziordan1 I studied the reviews, and came to the conclusion that the least complaints about the SF-M128T / T were from Sony. And she has a solid case.
I actually have a 64 gig lexar 1000 Mark II and the 128 gig card. So far I have never had to keep the camera shooting that long. But this video is very helpful and now I know what to look for when I come into his shoot that requires me to record for long periods of time.
Hello there. Thank you very much for the video. Try contacting the manufacturer if the cards don't work as advertised
The Sony 128gb M Series UHS II is so perfect for that. it has writing speed of 100mb and reading of 260mb for 100$. i bought it for my GH5 and it works flawlessly with recording ALL-I 400mbps. 40+minutes non stop. Not forgetting the quality of Sony. it just shits on Delkins and Lexar. those 2 got cheap ass quality and they got youtubers marketing them but they suck. Get you Sony M Series 128gb for 100$ and it will do the job. and you don't even need to go for Sony G Series with writing speed of 300mb it just an overkill trust me. i got my 2 SDXC cards Sony 128gb M Series and im so happy i made that purchase. i just wrote this review because i remember how much of struggle it was for me to choose the right sdxc card watching videos telling me i should get v90 Delkins and all that bullshit. So i just want to help out anyone who want to buy an SD card. Sony M Series is the way to go and it will save you so much money and without sacrificing the quality.
I have 2 of the expensive cards you returned, Extreme Pro 128 GB 300 mb/s and they have no issues with 4K 4:2:2 10 bit All-i 400 mbps recording. I can get 84 minutes of continuous recording no problem. Yes they are very expensive... I bought one card at Henry's in London Ontario for about $450 then I looked on B&H Photo's website and they were charging only $350 Canadian for the exact same card so I got my second one from them. I can not record to both cards at the same time at 400 mb/s, when I try it says "cards must be exactly the same for dual recording"... they are the exact same cards and dual recording works fine for 4K 10 bit 150 mbps video and everything else including FHD All-i 60 fps 200 mbps. I am happy with these cards and I darn well better be for what I paid for them. Anyone interested in buying these cards check out the prices at B&H to compare before you buy. I bought these a year ago so the prices may have changed. Thanks for the upload.
A Bit Frustrating that you didn't try the Sandisk your're returning as that's what I wanted to compare. :(
Fantastic video. Your channel content is awesome & very helpful. Thanks for sharing..
Thanks. Good comparison. I will even consider the Sony M u3 sdxc
I work all time with the Lexxar 1667x and or works fine. V60 cards are enough for the GH5s. You don‘t need a v90 lexxar 2000x Card.
Those speeds on the packaging and cards, which are "peak" write and read speeds, have nothing to do with what is required for the GH5 400Mbps format which is a minimum "sustained" write speed of 50Mb/s.
100% agree with you. They always hide an ** in there in the fine print and you'll see stuff like min speed 30mbs or something. But It still doesnt really answer the why the Lexar 1000x will run for way longer than the 2000x given its x2 the speed. The only thing I can think of is capacity. For some strange reason that 128gb matters.
I feel like if you could run an external monitor then you're best best is just to get an Atomos Ninja Inferno and record to SSD's, thats unless you cant use the external monitor. Personally I'll be getting that external monitor for my GH5.
I have no idea either, I'm frustrated for sure. Thanks for your help anyhow
The lexar 32 GB 2000x is only 32 GB, so, it is formated in fat32 file system, which supported only a 4 GB file.
Higher-end SD cards have longer SUSTAINED write speeds. This means a 60MB/s can beat a 120MB/s card if the former is designed for longer sustained write speeds. The cameras cache size also plays an important factor into the qaulity and speed of writing to a SD card. Also, camera companies will limit write speeds based on its class so for instance, even though your UHS-I card states it can write 60MB/s the camera will still limit it to lower write speeds. Lastly, Panasonic limits UHS-I card write speeds and this is likely due to setting it based on testing their cameras using the slowest UHS-I card(s) and optimising them to a certian write speed threshold.
Other camera companies clearly do not care to test cards on any level so they stay within the 100-200mbps (12-25MB/s) write speed barrier to stay on the safe side. The GH5 shoots above its weight class because Panasonic keeps finding new ways to optimize it to go further than it was orginally performing. Efficient and clever coding can go a long ways.
Lee, glad I found an old video. Whatever happened to that Mac Pro dude?
I enjoyed your testing method to see how good these cards were. I would have dared you to keep that 500 dollar card but now they don't cost that. Keep these videos coming brother.
I sold that system back in 2018. I found my hackintosh was just way faster I never ended up using it as much.
@@LeeZavitz I am in the same boat dude. I find the Hackintosh to be faster and more efficient for editing. Great minds think alike. (:
I have full 42m with mine.. Lexar SDXC Card 128GB 1000x Professional UHS-II
$450 for that??? wtf
The Sony 128gb M Series UHS II is so perfect for that. it has writing speed of 100mb and reading of 260mb for 100$. i bought it for my GH5 and it works flawlessly with recording ALL-I 400mbps. 40+minutes non stop. Not forgetting the quality of Sony. it just shits on Delkins and Lexar. those 2 got cheap ass quality and they got youtubers marketing them but they suck. Get you Sony M Series 128gb for 100$ and it will do the job. and you don't even need to go for Sony G Series with writing speed of 300mb it just an overkill trust me. i got my 2 SDXC cards Sony 128gb M Series and im so happy i made that purchase. i just wrote this review because i remember how much of struggle it was for me to choose the right sdxc card watching videos telling me i should get v90 Delkins and all that bullshit. So i just want to help out anyone who want to buy an SD card. Sony M Series is the way to go
Thank you bro, $100 is a very reasonable price. I'll look into it.
It costs to get the best when it's first released. I wouldn't pay that either BTW.
@@MatriouseThaGod2k hey, looking back today what sd card would you recommend for example for the Canon R6 or Sony A7siii (best bang for the buck that is capable)
What about 200mbps?
I shot an hour commercial for a client in 4K on my GH4 and had no issues like this.
Try formatting the 1000x card on your PC, using the same file system the camera formats, but DON'T do the quick format. Do a full format. You may be running into a bad sector, causing the camera to abort. If that doesn't help, you might have a problem with your camera.
Also, did you try recording to the other card slot? Any difference there? Good luck!
Well, this speed writen on cards doesn't matter. It's better to look at V standard. V means Video and this standard shows actual constant writing speed of this cards. For 400mbps we need V60 (there is no V50)
If could be that 128GB is exfat and 32GB is FAT formatted which may effect speeds
Thanks for the info, one Q. My lexar card write the info but the video got extrange lines, is the card or the camera?
Just a heads up I don't believe this video is wrong but I do believe that there is a quality control issue with these. I can barely get 4k 10bit 150mb recording on my Lexar 1000 card. Also the amount of time it takes for the files to complete writing is pretty bad and had caused me to miss some important shots. Just pay the money and get a Angel Bird card.
I think Max recommended the Sony M series SD cards for the 400 mbs codec. You can get them in a two pack 128 gigs so I took the plunge because I could return if they didn't work. So I tried it on a local shops GH5 at the 23.98 DCI and recorded the full card. No glitches or drop outs.. But you are right most people will likely not do a continuous record for a full card so under 10 min is likely fine.
Im able to get 20mins out of the 128gb lexar 1000 card when recarding 400mbps. Going to see what the 256gb has to offer.
Jermaine Grant you must have one of the golden lotto 1000x cards haha that's awesome
Hi My Lexar 128GB x1000 does not work properly and I've contacted Panasonic. They tell that Lexar is not good enough and can not get 10bit / 400mbps without risk of lost frames or movie chopping. They recommend UHS II Sandisk, Samsung, Sony, Delkin, Transcend and Hoodmann. You can not use BlackMagic for anything as speeds are not approaching the use of GH5. Lexar is lying about their speeds. The highest speed measured is read 82mb / s write 52mb / s.
All these read & write speeds are only relevant when transfering data beween card and computer (its marketing pure) The only thing which describes the internal recording speed is the class 10, v3, and U3
Great review - We'd like to know how many GB GH5 is needed for 1 minute recording when you use 400 mbps 10 bit .
3GB/1min
I haven't had any trouble recording 400 Mbps with the 128 GB Sony M series UHS-II cards. The GH5 breaks the recording up into multiple clips before it hits 96 GB if you record continuously (effectively making the maximum clip length about 34 minutes), but it just starts another clip if you don't stop it, so you can continue recording until the memory card fills at about 42 minutes. You can get a two-pack on B&H for $184 ($92 single) and take advantage of the GH5's dual card slots to relay record, giving yourself 84 minutes of continuous recording. However, I've found that the backup record function doesn't work with these cards in 400 Mbps (I get an error message saying it needs two identical cards, even when I am using two identical cards), but it works just fine at all other bitrates. I have no idea why that happens. Other than that, I've had no problems.
I've also heard the FreeTail Evoke Pro 1000x they sell on Amazon for $74 will work, but I haven't tried it.
Just tested my Lexar 1000x 150 card 64gig in 4k all-I 400mbps 422 10bit 23.98 and it recorded 20 minutes filling the card at 20 minutes 40 seconds. It stopped and showed disk full.
The Sony 128gb M Series UHS II is so perfect for that. it has writing speed of 100mb and reading of 260mb for 100$. i bought it for my GH5 and it works flawlessly with recording ALL-I 400mbps. 40+minutes non stop. Not forgetting the quality of Sony. it just shits on Delkins and Lexar. those 2 got cheap ass quality and they got youtubers marketing them but they suck. Get you Sony M Series 128gb for 100$ and it will do the job. and you don't even need to go for Sony G Series with writing speed of 300mb it just an overkill trust me. i got my 2 SDXC cards Sony 128gb M Series and im so happy i made that purchase. i just wrote this review because i remember how much of struggle it was for me to choose the right sdxc card watching videos telling me i should get v90 Delkins and all that bullshit. So i just want to help out anyone who want to buy an SD card. Sony M Series is the way to go
Thanks! I have a trouble with Lexar x1000 128Gb. After pushing play on gh5, I waiting so long before I can watch recorded video. Do you have the same? Sorry for my English.
For the GH5 you need a SD ii 128 V60 250MB/s or higher
Long-term Lexar reality check: The Longsys-era Lexar Professional 1000x cards are extremely prone to manufacturing flaws that make them extremely unstable and prone to corruption upon attempting to save footage. Lexar is also refusing to warranty the cards and are issuing refunds - furthermore, they are WITHHOLDING refunds citing investigation by the US Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS). I've been waiting well over five months for an RMA card to be refunded. They also claim that they cannot send the RMA'ed card back because of CFIUS, so you're SOL either way.
Wouldn't touch a Lexar card for all the tea in China. But I probably wouldn't get the tea for a year, thanks to CFIUS.
You didn't test the Sandisk one, how long did you get out of that?
the Sandisk 300mb
There are some reports that the 1000x is not working for some people (giving them max 5 seconds) I would be careful telling people that a card that doesn't meet Panasonic specified V60 or V90 card works.. You may end up with some very upset GH5 users.
matt brown lots of people saying they are getting 42mins out of their 1000x cards. I can't get that. But I can successfuly hit 10mins at a time all day long. I assume not every card is created equal. I'm gonna check out the adata v90 card next.
Yeah I'm only getting about 19 seconds on mine :(
Hey Zed! Try giving the Lexar Professional 2000x SDXC 64GB card a try for the new 4K setting! The 32GB is SDHC. :)
do you know about the Sony 128GB M Series UHS-II SDXC Memory Card (U3) by any chance? oh now well they hold up?
i am thinking about the same card
Search UA-cam for "GH5 V90 UHS-II SD Card Fail" by "uwave" then scroll to Michael Lasoff's comment, and see the second reply by uwave. A huge amount of info. Summary: Gray SONY SF-M128 SD card works fine. I'm preparing a B&H order for one right now based on that reply, and a "Lexar Professional USB 3.0 Dual-Slot Reader (UDMA 7)" too, even though LEXAR is now defunct because reviews of SD card readers I've seen put that reader at the top.
They are the best choice. I got 2 and they work 4k All-I 400mbps without stop for 43 minutes. And the quality is beautiful
Well clearly it's not the burst speed that matters, but sustained speed.
The lexar 1000x SDXC UHS-II 128GB card has a minimum writing speed of 30MB/s(V30). 400mbps is ~ 50MB/s, so it probably drops the speed below 50MB/s at some time and thats why you cannot record longer?
It's v60 not v30
Panasonic explicitly states to use v60 and v90 cards.
Those are the cards people should buy.
This card looks promising for the price. amzn.to/2xTHWjF
From experience, my 128 ExtremePRO 300MB's works flawlessly. Don't do shortcuts when it comes to SD Cards. one failed gig is much more expensive and embarrassing than just having to bite the bullet.
Don't do shortcuts and you're using a uhs-I card...
Looks like you don't see difference between Megabites vs Megabytes
I realize this video is over a year old now. My story with the Lexar 1000x cards is a bad one. After using them for a while i discovered that on the GH5 these cards were actually corrupting the video files over time. Also, Write speeds are significantly underrated compared to the spec'd rates from some reviewers. I had rates 34 MB and in one case 21MB sustained write rates. Avoid these cards if you care at all about your data. Oh and the LExar 1000x cards only Read at UHS-II. They do not WRITE at UHS-II only UHS-I and the write speed is horrible on the GH5. I've learned this the hard way. Also, Lexar's warranty treats the customers as second class citizens so don't expect any great warranty support for what is labeled a professional product.
2:12 The card is what ? The... What ?
What sd card for shoot 4k in 2 hours?
For the GH5 you need a SD ii 128 V60 250MB/s or higher
none of this makes sense. write speeds are all over the place and perform differently - thanks for confirming what i thought....it's messed up.
Thanks for the test, man.
Regarding the 1000X, for 'regular' 4K 60p, ie, not the 400Mbps, will those cards work for that?
yes
I'd imagine you've only tested these cards but just curious if you knew any SD cards that are 100 percent to work at all times and no errors. I'm doing event videography and I'd hate if my stuff crashed during a wedding. Anything you've read or recommended? Obviously cheaper would be nice but I guess you get what you pay for. I'm leaning towards Sandisk cards but just wanted to hear your thoughts before purchasing.
Yesterday I tried the same Lexar 128 GB with 400 Mbps of the new firm and it record up to fill the card: one clip of 42 min
I know this is an odd question, but do you think even as a stills shooter that the GH5 with a speed booster would be better than the 6D Mark II? I got rid of my A6500 just because of the frustrating menu system and the crap battery life. I'm not sure if the GH5 would be a better experience.
WarChortle For stills I would still choose a 6Dmkii any day. While I love the gh5 and everything it can do. Nothing beats the look of full frame. Even with a speedbooster you will not have the same low light performance you will get with a full frame camera as well. Unfortunately there is no perfect camera.
I see you have a Mac Pro. Would you mind making a video about it ?
I bought the similar Lexar 128GB SDXC UHS-II cards and mu GH5 rejected the cards and its asking me to change the cards. its not even working. to my surprise they dont even have a 2nd row of pins. So whats Lexar doing im not sure.
Sunil Charly If it doesn't have a second row of contacts it's only uhs-I
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Hi i Have the same lexar 150MB/s 1000x but in 32GB and i havn't all posibility of GH5 . I havn't 400 Mbps 4k or C4k , I havn't FHD 180p. I just have 4k 30p 4k 24p FHD 60/30/24p and i don't understand why ...
Yann Res That has nothing to do with the card. You have to be recording in Mov. And you need to make sure your firmware is the newest version that just came out (v2.0) in order to shoot at 400mbps
Zed ProMedia thx i juste do this 😂 sorry i m à begenner
Hi Zed, Can use the " 256GB Professional 1000x SDXC SDHC UHS" on the Nikon D800 and the D5600? ( i just bought it on ebay.). Thank you sir.
lexar 2000x?
Is the EMTEC micro sd card good to use for transferring photos from iPhone ???
Thanks in advance
Buddy lol Im trying to make crunch time decisions and you throw twist in at the end and dont test the card i need you to test?
do both sd card slot support uhs 2?
format your new cards in the camera it's going to be used in. not sure if that's superstition but i've always done this and never had issues. can't speak for gh5 though.. so... ye
I have Transcend memory card SDXC 64GB 700S UHS-II U3 V90 memory card and in slot 1 it stops writing around 10-15 seconds, if I put the same card into slot 2, then I can record over 1 minute in ALL-i format :D
Good info, ordering card now. How are you linking the Canon C200, Are you gonna do a review on it?
ANGEL CASTRO yeah I love it. I was gonna push out a rushed review when I first got it then decided to wait and do a better full review. I should have it out sometime in October.
Old video but new questions... When the card fails, does the camera finish the video or is that file lost?
Finished video
I hope those are Hong Kong dollars, pal. Otherwise I’d like to have you over for a friendly game of poker sometime,
Just received two new Lexar 64 1000x cards for my brand new as well gh5, I have formatted them via computer and after installing them in the camera .. message error says "insert SD card again" it will not let me format it in the camera, both cards doing the same thing. Then I place the original ultra plus 64 card in and works fine. Any suggestions here
What did you format them as?
exFAT, I tried the ntfs but it didn't accept it. I did the quick format. would that matter?
I would always recommend formatting in camera and not on the computer but exFAT is what it should be. I have no idea why the camera cant read it.
Hey Zed,nice video,what is your settings for CineD?Looks cool, pretty washed out ,like Cinestyle on Canon.
card works great overall on standard fps, but on vfr it freezes, even on 25fps and clip is lost after that, one time I lost all my footage on a card after that freeze
i just tested 64gb card and it works!!!
SeeWhatYouSee you have to test it fully. Record 4k 10bit 400mbs till card is full. Do it like 3 times.
After the update does it let you record video lower than 4k on the old UHS - 1 cards?
Reuben Jacob of course. I made this video for ppl trying to record 400mbps. The old 150mpbs is just fine on uhs-I cards like the Sandisk 95mbs cards
I habe the Lexar 1000x 128 GB... But when I record 4K video's on my Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZF1000 the recordings randomly stop sometimes.... Is that the SD card wich is too slow? Or is ghere a camera setting to fix it? Thanks for all help already.
Bas Nunnikhoven I have the same problem. Do you fix this?
My Lexar 1000 just stop working after the 2.3 update...SMH
when is 5d vs 6d part 2????
128GB Is the Highest Capacity that can work with this camera right?
not really. it can take any sd xc card.
Oh I just commented to fast... It's the SD card I see... Now I know what to upgrade
Well in my case I bought this card and it stopped working after 1 week of use. Was so pissed cause I threw out the receipt thinking what would happen to such a cool card.
Anna Shtraus ugh that sucks. I've only ever had 2 sd cards fail on me and it was physical. They literally split apart :/
so much confusion, they should really make the labeling easier to understand
i HAVE a sandisk 64gb ULTRA PLUS for 1440p or 4k, will that work on my sony a6300? please reply, some people don't, i've subscribed for a while now
Tee New sandisk uhsi 95mbs is all you need for 4K on the a6300 that’s what I use
Does the card keep all the footage up to the warning?
Troy Gulbrandsen yep that's why I showed the footage in this video as proof.
Great video, now I’m really not sure if it’s capacity or write read speed that’s crazy. And man that 128GB San Disk being $500 is ridiculous lol. 😂 at least you’ve got the 10 min ability with that lexar and saves you a ton of money. Personally I rarely shoot clips above 10 mins
Sully Cortez yeah things are so over priced here in Canada it's ridiculous. I'm cool with saving a bunch of money. The Lexar 1000x card was $130
This card looks promising for the price. amzn.to/2xTHWjF
Fuk that i use scandisk extreme 95mbs. And shoot 150mbs 4k my card works fine for 2hrs straight . Moral of story is 400mbs doesn’t give you more quality do your research 400 mbs is for green screen keying work not for normal shootings such as vlogs , music video , weddings
Format SD card to NTFS, other wise only 4Gb can be written to the card,that's probably the reason why lexar doesn't work
Zhang Jason Or ExFAT
exfat is what the camera formats the card to. Thats not the issue.
Hmm I need to try this
DId both on my SanDisk 170 Expeme pro - didnt help 24 sec of shooting
Any drop frames?
this
ive had two of those cards fail on me
you need a sustained writing speed to record video ............that is the reason why manufactures are rating v60........v90 on their cards
I though GH5 have unlimited rec time...
I have 2 card and damig in 6 month....
it's so bad
I still wouldn't run Lexar or Delkin in the GH5.
Everytime Lexar sd card I always end up returning them as they delevop errors. I wont be buying Lexar card anymore
has anyone tried the new SanDisk 170 cards?
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