Same, I thought that this video was going to be an essay about how he can blast through rocks and solid metal structures, and just roaming at those speed would break any bones ect. but I was pleasantly surprised.
I thought this video was about how durable Sonic is physically, but no matter how many times he reaches terminal velocity, his strongest durability feat is staying alive through the darkest times for over 33 years.
I've always seen the IP as a broken mirror. But with this broken mirror the shards from it come together to make a silhouette of Sonic. In each of the broken mirror shards you can see different interpretations of Sonic and how different they can be from one another. But then you can feel that they somehow have this presence that no matter what version at the end of the day it's still Sonic.
I've never heard of this channel before, so I expected powerscaling Sonic's Durability feats lmao. Great video either way. The editing is top-notch, and the content shows a good understanding of the Sonic series as a whole.
1:00 that one way dream “what else is new?” Hit hard, that song is practically what sonic team had to go through in the 2010s and even before since 06 Boy are we so back
I literally thought this video was gonna be about how the heck Sonic survived all the things he’d faced canonically, but this is seriously so much better! Love the video!!
came here from jonas's link, this vid is so well put together not an 06 fan but i like that you bring up p-06 when talking about people existing that enjoy "bad" games, too many people have been quick to prop up fan projects to bring down official sonic games without actually thinking about why those projects were done in the first place.
To me, Sonic will always be Sonic. It doesn't matter which version he is into, I don't need a reason to say why I love this character so much. His actions in certain games ALREADY speaks volume lol
I lowkey love this vid but it’s actually HILARIOUS how bro quotes and plays his world TWICE and also acknowledges the infamous ~aura~ around Sonic ‘06 LOL
GENUINELY love the fact that you gushed about sonic music and showed the tracks i personally think are so very mid. Its really cool unironically... the music is just that good
Every Sonic Lyric reference I noticed: 1:08 "What else is New?" - One way Dream (it literally plays right after he says it lol) 16:55 "His World", "Every Step meets the rest" - His World 17:02 "If you try, You can do anything" - You can do anything
People have many words about Sonic as a character and series. Fast, Free, Independent, Cocky, Inconstant, Reputation, etc. But for me as someone that got into sonic due to Sonic X and growing up during the "Dark Ages" and Meta Era (THE REAL DARK AGES IMO). There's 2 I can think of with Sonic, and it's why I remained loyal to the series after everything. ENDURANCE & TENACITY "I'm a spark that won't go out" is a line that puts me in the brink of tears every time I hear it in One Way Dream. Cause it perfectly represents Sonic's BIGGEST strength as a character and as a gaming franchise legend. Any other franchise would have died out or never recovered. Sonic no matter the situation found ways to stay alive no matter how much filth was being dragged to it. I despise the Meta Era cause seeing Sonic making fun of itself, no different from online saddens me personally. It felt like I was seeing the 1st game series I adored giving up and dying in front of me. (Skylanders dying out around this time didn't help as it was my 2nd big game series) and at the time. I was in a depressed mind set at the time (Due to personal events out of my control) and only had Splatoon as the only ongoing series to enjoy, though Splatoon 2 just felt like more and more of a job at some point to pass time (Cause depression sucks). So seeing this comeback from Sonic now as an adult fills me with so much joy. Alongside knowing that I'm not the only one who felt this way with the Meta Era. While it was better received than the Dark Ages from a general/causal viewpoint. The Meta Era is soulless and left Sonic without an identity. Forces while imo not a bad game left a bad scar on 3D Sonic no different from the "New" Super Mario series with 2D Mario. (Thank the STARS for Sonic Frontiers and Super Mario Bros. Wonder. My GOATs are doing GREAT!)
13:18 is so true. I’ve only played Sonic Advance (can’t even remember which one) in the dentist waiting room once as a little kid and that was all I needed to know I love Sonic and will draw him.
Advance 1 and 2 were fire and kinda mirrored the original games. Advance 1 had speed but was more platforming heavy, Advance 2 though just like sonic 2 cranked the speed WAYYY up and arguably introduced boost before rush did
I fucking _L O V E_ the way you incorporated His World and the the acoustic version in the end of the video, it's one of my all time favorite sonic songs
I like how whenever the series is about to die the team releases a new game like "you this is our last game lets put in our all" and then everyone buy it and the series is suddenly revitalized for like 3 games
As a decade long (wow already...) sonic fan, I expected a power scaling video going in depth into sonic's durability. What i got was a video about sonic i didnt know i needed to watch until it came to me
0:20 If I'm not mistaken, Sonic's jump to 3D was actually praised and well recieved at the time, there were some maganizes praising many good things about Sonic Adventure, and Sonic Adventure 2 to this day still is one of the Sonic games with some of the best reviews ever, it has 90+ score in Metacritic (the Dreamcast version, because the GameCube port has around 70~80) it was exactly AFTER SEGA left the console marketing that Sonic started getting weaker in reception, Heroes, unlike SA2 which was the game prior, was not so well-recieved, and that became even worse in 2005 (with Shadow the Hedgehog) onwards, with some small exceptions, until where we are now, ever since Movie 1 where it looks like Sonic is climbing up again I love the Sonic series a lot, not only because I actually enjoy most of those games, including many from these 2 decades where it was trying to climb back up, but because I admire that they kept going even when all that was happening, and that recap of those last 5 years with One Way Dream kicking in... aw man! Gave me literal chills! So happy seeing this series I love so much managing to stay strong with the help of those who love it
Sonic and his friends are very likable. It was a very smart decision on Sega's part when they made Sonic Adventure more story and character-focused. I stick around through all the highs and lows, because I like the characters and I'm invested in their stories.
I'm going to be honest with you I thought this was a power scaling video but after watching the full video I can safely say that this video is pretty good while produced and I can't wait to see more like it.
A thing that most people ignore when talking about the sonic games is that most of them have a secret rule that every player needs to learn. To me, a player has to get used to a game's jank (aka get gud) cuz once they do, the Sonic games can be pretty fun (some of the games that """suffer""" from this the most are the adventure games, Sonic 1, advance 2 etc). But the problem is that not everyone wants to spend hours and hours to get gud at a sonic game and until then, they'll have most likely given up and said "this game SUCKS"
One of the unfortunate things about sonic is that they get better as you get better at them, leading to the first playthrough being the worst most of the time
I read the title of the video and thought it was it an explanation of why Sonic fell off the Egg Carrier and landed on the hard ground and was just fine.
whats more appreciated despite sonic fumbling the hardest becoming internet punching bag, Sonic team never quit trying anything to make sonic games. Even if they misunderstand or doesn't have that much support over their game design, you have to appreciate that they saved sonic's fate from becoming like other 3D platformer except mario which its being abandoned by their perspective company. No matter how many people think sonic is dead, They will just gonna look back again to the recent games.
Cd is my favorite classic sonic game It has he best characterization for classic Which is why i also like superstars, yeah its hard but once used to it its fun, NAOTO OHSHIMA FOREVER! But seriously tho naoto knows sonic more than anyone, he shouldve been the writer for the franchise if anything
I thought this video was going to talk about how Sonic is very durable and has survived explosions, getting thrown at a tower and into a mountain by a giant Or how he just doesn’t take fall damage
Sonic 06 xbox version only was actually good. Never had bugs issues with it ever, now there was glitches in the game like the infinite jump exploit and i loved it. If u want to enjoy the game at all or for the first time, play the xbox version or the remastered sonic p-06 pc game
Title deceived me, I thought this was another powerscaling video talking about Sonic's physical durability, dang. The bit in the beginning about Sonic plummeting from SA1 is so ignorant for those who say that. Not being equally as praised as SM64 does not translates to flop or bad game or whatever. All that being said, this is like the closest and only time where I'll ever see SCD, SA2, SU, and Sonic Frontiers held highly in collection. Typically you don't see fans who like all these particular games. It's unfortunate though that Sonic 1 wasn't deemed good here. Sonic 1 is still definitely a strong title, even if it might potentially be the weakest in the classic tetralogy. It's not a flawed enough game to label it bad or mid. It hold ups very well, especially depending on which version you're playing. edit: Oh yeah the comparisons to Mario bit. A comedic part about the mostly onesided and oneminded comparisons is that outside maybe Shuffle (haven't played it), Sonic spinoffs and mainline games actually have rivaled and in some cases even surpassed Mario's. Lost World is the only compelling argument against Sonic.
I'm gonna be honest I got halfway through the video before I realized the video isn't about how physically durable sonic himself is Like how he can plummet to earth from the upper layers of the atmosphere and just walk it off
If that's referring to Unleashed, Chip stopped his fall at a slightly more reasonable height. More impressive is when he survived being thrown across half the planet from about the core of the Earth imo
11:47 I always thought that Blaze was Sonic's rival because Sonic Rush was the first Sonic game I completed. And little me seeing a girl be a rival to a boy felt a bit odd, but I really liked playing as Blaze, so I thought the rivalry was cool. 😊 Until I learned about Shadow. 😑
I've been playing Sonic games since I was like 6, and I'm still an Avid fan even to now, Sonic Discussion videos are one of my favorite things to watch. Like at the video, mamy factors still affirm Why I LOVE SONIC THE HEDGEHOG .... BTW Great thought out video indeed😊
Sonic fans are anything but not loyal. As a Sonic fan myself for 20+years, even at the darkest times, Sonic's personality makes you want to keep going.
Sonic The Hedgehog 2006, I loved that game. I dunno why people hate it, but it's a good game Sonic Forces, I loved it😊 Sonic unleashed, it was phenomenal
When i think about it, i find it very weird when comparing mario and sonic. Imo, Mario games arent too different from each other most the time. The mechanics are very similar and little to nothing is changed. (Except for the paper games, super paper mario, thousand year door, and the 1 after that were good but the game started being too heavily reliant on gimmicks for combat mechanics) yet ppl still eat it up. Sonic fans get grumpy and claim sega is scared to change things when they constantly do. Sonic has gone through multiple different playstyles with different mechanics yet ppl still find reasons to complain. Mario can keep things relatively the same and no one bats an eye, meanwhile sonic cant seem to win in terms of what the fans want, even when they try their best to deliver experiences similar to what they enjoyed. Unleashed is 1 of sonics best modern games imo and ppl HATED it back when it dropped.
I thought this video was about how Sonic is able to survive different climates, pressures, etc., but this is an amazing video.
Me too 😂!
I thought it was about how he can take a beating.
Same😭
Hydraulic press VS. Sonic game cartridge, sonic game disc, sonic figurine, and sonic plush.
Same, I thought that this video was going to be an essay about how he can blast through rocks and solid metal structures, and just roaming at those speed would break any bones ect. but I was pleasantly surprised.
Same I thought this was a powerscailing video
I thought this video was about how durable Sonic is physically, but no matter how many times he reaches terminal velocity, his strongest durability feat is staying alive through the darkest times for over 33 years.
Me too
He actually knows what he's talking about ohhhh my gooooddddddd! He COOKED!
Fr this video is underrated
I had clicked away from the video when I heard the first summary of their 3D days but came back and I’m glad I did
I've always seen the IP as a broken mirror. But with this broken mirror the shards from it come together to make a silhouette of Sonic. In each of the broken mirror shards you can see different interpretations of Sonic and how different they can be from one another. But then you can feel that they somehow have this presence that no matter what version at the end of the day it's still Sonic.
Agreed
I've never heard of this channel before, so I expected powerscaling Sonic's Durability feats lmao. Great video either way. The editing is top-notch, and the content shows a good understanding of the Sonic series as a whole.
Agreed
1:00 that one way dream “what else is new?” Hit hard, that song is practically what sonic team had to go through in the 2010s and even before since 06
Boy are we so back
This is a new generation for sonic tbh, and we are very back.
I THOUGHT THIS WAS GONNA BE A POWERSCALING VIDEO LMFAOOO
This video is fire btw
Agreed
I literally thought this video was gonna be about how the heck Sonic survived all the things he’d faced canonically, but this is seriously so much better! Love the video!!
Agreed
Sonic more successful then Mario in the non game portion of media ironically.
Mario is still way more successful overall
Facts 😂
@rocketdareaperzz179who cares his comment ain’t wrong at all. Sonic is still one of the few franchises that can even rival Mario in popularity
@ mario is more than twice sonics popularity, but that’s not the point
@ hell nah. Mario is still rivaled in popularity by Sonic to this very day 😂
As the Donut Lord himself once asked, "HOW are you NOT dead?!"
Sonic: "I have NO idea!! 😄"
Honestly we can classify Sonic as god of wind at this point
Or a knight of the wind 😉
Is this a reference to that video?
came here from jonas's link, this vid is so well put together
not an 06 fan but i like that you bring up p-06 when talking about people existing that enjoy "bad" games, too many people have been quick to prop up fan projects to bring down official sonic games without actually thinking about why those projects were done in the first place.
To me, Sonic will always be Sonic.
It doesn't matter which version he is into, I don't need a reason to say why I love this character so much. His actions in certain games ALREADY speaks volume lol
even after everything, sonic's still standing
"sonic the hedgehog himself is just a guy that loves nature and freedom"
sa2 fans screaming in agony:
I lowkey love this vid but it’s actually HILARIOUS how bro quotes and plays his world TWICE and also acknowledges the infamous ~aura~ around Sonic ‘06 LOL
OMG finally. people who understand CD gameplay including the time travel
GENUINELY love the fact that you gushed about sonic music and showed the tracks i personally think are so very mid. Its really cool unironically... the music is just that good
Every Sonic Lyric reference I noticed:
1:08 "What else is New?" - One way Dream (it literally plays right after he says it lol)
16:55 "His World", "Every Step meets the rest" - His World
17:02 "If you try, You can do anything" - You can do anything
This video rocks
This audio papers
This thumbnail scissors
This comment thread *GUNS*
I win
Right as he said “His world,” His World started playing
People have many words about Sonic as a character and series. Fast, Free, Independent, Cocky, Inconstant, Reputation, etc. But for me as someone that got into sonic due to Sonic X and growing up during the "Dark Ages" and Meta Era (THE REAL DARK AGES IMO). There's 2 I can think of with Sonic, and it's why I remained loyal to the series after everything.
ENDURANCE & TENACITY
"I'm a spark that won't go out" is a line that puts me in the brink of tears every time I hear it in One Way Dream. Cause it perfectly represents Sonic's BIGGEST strength as a character and as a gaming franchise legend. Any other franchise would have died out or never recovered. Sonic no matter the situation found ways to stay alive no matter how much filth was being dragged to it. I despise the Meta Era cause seeing Sonic making fun of itself, no different from online saddens me personally. It felt like I was seeing the 1st game series I adored giving up and dying in front of me. (Skylanders dying out around this time didn't help as it was my 2nd big game series) and at the time. I was in a depressed mind set at the time (Due to personal events out of my control) and only had Splatoon as the only ongoing series to enjoy, though Splatoon 2 just felt like more and more of a job at some point to pass time (Cause depression sucks). So seeing this comeback from Sonic now as an adult fills me with so much joy. Alongside knowing that I'm not the only one who felt this way with the Meta Era. While it was better received than the Dark Ages from a general/causal viewpoint. The Meta Era is soulless and left Sonic without an identity. Forces while imo not a bad game left a bad scar on 3D Sonic no different from the "New" Super Mario series with 2D Mario. (Thank the STARS for Sonic Frontiers and Super Mario Bros. Wonder. My GOATs are doing GREAT!)
13:18 is so true. I’ve only played Sonic Advance (can’t even remember which one) in the dentist waiting room once as a little kid and that was all I needed to know I love Sonic and will draw him.
Advance 1 and 2 were fire and kinda mirrored the original games.
Advance 1 had speed but was more platforming heavy, Advance 2 though just like sonic 2 cranked the speed WAYYY up and arguably introduced boost before rush did
its baffling how you have less than a thousand subs. Great video!
Dude, you're super underrated. You genuinely deserve so much more attention!!
edit: just saw description, 100% true
When it comes to music, I'm always surprised that no one ever brings up Sonic 3D Blast. That's some of my favorite music in the entire series.
I fucking _L O V E_ the way you incorporated His World and the the acoustic version in the end of the video, it's one of my all time favorite sonic songs
robotnik survived his mech exploding and the death egg crashing into angel island in the same day, never forget
I like how whenever the series is about to die the team releases a new game like "you this is our last game lets put in our all" and then everyone buy it and the series is suddenly revitalized for like 3 games
This is a video I would send to a friend to explain why I and others like Sonic. It's that good
Another great video!!
I have no idea. Sonic is a character that actually embodies his ideals in real life and i love that
Quick reminder that sonic survived a fall from space hitting the earth head-first and just got up like he was punched.
I clicked on the video expecting an analysis on Sonic's durability feats. I stayed for an honest and fair critique on the goat
This video really made me proud of being a sonic fan
As sega once said, fun is infinite, and so is sonic
“How are you not dead?”
“I have NO idea!”
I think this is the best Sonic video of all time
bro ate and left Z E R O crumbs with this video, beautiful job :D
As a decade long (wow already...) sonic fan, I expected a power scaling video going in depth into sonic's durability. What i got was a video about sonic i didnt know i needed to watch until it came to me
0:20 If I'm not mistaken, Sonic's jump to 3D was actually praised and well recieved at the time, there were some maganizes praising many good things about Sonic Adventure, and Sonic Adventure 2 to this day still is one of the Sonic games with some of the best reviews ever, it has 90+ score in Metacritic (the Dreamcast version, because the GameCube port has around 70~80) it was exactly AFTER SEGA left the console marketing that Sonic started getting weaker in reception, Heroes, unlike SA2 which was the game prior, was not so well-recieved, and that became even worse in 2005 (with Shadow the Hedgehog) onwards, with some small exceptions, until where we are now, ever since Movie 1 where it looks like Sonic is climbing up again
I love the Sonic series a lot, not only because I actually enjoy most of those games, including many from these 2 decades where it was trying to climb back up, but because I admire that they kept going even when all that was happening, and that recap of those last 5 years with One Way Dream kicking in... aw man! Gave me literal chills! So happy seeing this series I love so much managing to stay strong with the help of those who love it
1:10 - 1:33 Is it wierd that this little segment made me smile and feel a bit emotional?
“The Doom” stage music from Shadow the Hedgehog does not get enough love. It’s a top 5 for me
Sonic and his friends are very likable. It was a very smart decision on Sega's part when they made Sonic Adventure more story and character-focused. I stick around through all the highs and lows, because I like the characters and I'm invested in their stories.
GODDAMN YOU COOKED
This video explains everything about sonic and what it means to be a sonic fan.
my terminally online ass thought this was gonna be a powerscaling video about sonic's durability feats 😭
15:36 the artist is called ARQ and has worked on the idw comics
Me: Thinks the video would be about how Sonic tanked falls at terminal velocity.
Also Me: Gets tricked spectacularly
Who is Sonic you say? Well what you see is what you get, just a guy who loves adventure!
I'm going to be honest with you I thought this was a power scaling video but after watching the full video I can safely say that this video is pretty good while produced and I can't wait to see more like it.
A thing that most people ignore when talking about the sonic games is that most of them have a secret rule that every player needs to learn. To me, a player has to get used to a game's jank (aka get gud) cuz once they do, the Sonic games can be pretty fun (some of the games that """suffer""" from this the most are the adventure games, Sonic 1, advance 2 etc).
But the problem is that not everyone wants to spend hours and hours to get gud at a sonic game and until then, they'll have most likely given up and said "this game SUCKS"
One of the unfortunate things about sonic is that they get better as you get better at them, leading to the first playthrough being the worst most of the time
that guy's hair is amazing, I love it
8:04 I want to ask the woman dressed as Knuckles: "Do you chuckle?"
i have been a fan of sonic since kindergarten basically hes been my childhood for years
I read the title of the video and thought it was it an explanation of why Sonic fell off the Egg Carrier and landed on the hard ground and was just fine.
I got a silly little game
Take a shot every time sonic is said in this video
whats more appreciated despite sonic fumbling the hardest becoming internet punching bag, Sonic team never quit trying anything to make sonic games. Even if they misunderstand or doesn't have that much support over their game design, you have to appreciate that they saved sonic's fate from becoming like other 3D platformer except mario which its being abandoned by their perspective company. No matter how many people think sonic is dead, They will just gonna look back again to the recent games.
Cd is my favorite classic sonic game
It has he best characterization for classic
Which is why i also like superstars, yeah its hard but once used to it its fun, NAOTO OHSHIMA FOREVER!
But seriously tho naoto knows sonic more than anyone, he shouldve been the writer for the franchise if anything
Plot it's just plot.
BRO WHAT!!! DUDEEEE JONAZZ IS BECOMING FAMOUS THATS HES ART ON THE THUMBNAIL!!
I thought this video was going to talk about how Sonic is very durable and has survived explosions, getting thrown at a tower and into a mountain by a giant
Or how he just doesn’t take fall damage
Mans fell all the way from space and the worst he suffered was getting stuck in some dirt bro's durable as hell.
Have you finished the video yet
4:08 and then he became canine-like in Unleashed XD
Sonic Adventure being a bad 3d transition is like saying mario odyssey is the worst moveset mario had.
Sonic 06 xbox version only was actually good. Never had bugs issues with it ever, now there was glitches in the game like the infinite jump exploit and i loved it. If u want to enjoy the game at all or for the first time, play the xbox version or the remastered sonic p-06 pc game
i was already in the middle of a cd glaze video so i didnt expect to see more lol
I aspire to be like sonic. This video is so inspiring man thank you for this
So the Sonic CD intro was an instructional video this whole time!
Underrated channel
HOLD ON, HIS WRITING IS THIS FIRE?!?!?
Why everyone forgets superstars 😭😭😭😭😭 (great video though)
Edit: WTF WAS THAT LAST QUESTION???
all he needed was one ring.
thought this was gonna be a fucking power scaling video 😭still amazing
even if sonic fans dont have good games atleast sonic has a better community and durability
Title deceived me, I thought this was another powerscaling video talking about Sonic's physical durability, dang. The bit in the beginning about Sonic plummeting from SA1 is so ignorant for those who say that. Not being equally as praised as SM64 does not translates to flop or bad game or whatever.
All that being said, this is like the closest and only time where I'll ever see SCD, SA2, SU, and Sonic Frontiers held highly in collection. Typically you don't see fans who like all these particular games. It's unfortunate though that Sonic 1 wasn't deemed good here. Sonic 1 is still definitely a strong title, even if it might potentially be the weakest in the classic tetralogy. It's not a flawed enough game to label it bad or mid. It hold ups very well, especially depending on which version you're playing.
edit: Oh yeah the comparisons to Mario bit. A comedic part about the mostly onesided and oneminded comparisons is that outside maybe Shuffle (haven't played it), Sonic spinoffs and mainline games actually have rivaled and in some cases even surpassed Mario's. Lost World is the only compelling argument against Sonic.
IN THIS WOOORLD
WHEN ONE IS ALL
If he has a ring he is immortal
I need a full video of each sonic song with people dancing please
Oh I am 4 weeks late
The Story Never ends 👍
I thought the video was gonna be about how durable he is in the games..
🗣️I WILL NOT TAKE THE 90s CARTOON SLANDER
I'm gonna be honest I got halfway through the video before I realized the video isn't about how physically durable sonic himself is
Like how he can plummet to earth from the upper layers of the atmosphere and just walk it off
If that's referring to Unleashed, Chip stopped his fall at a slightly more reasonable height. More impressive is when he survived being thrown across half the planet from about the core of the Earth imo
@9:13 So we're just going to act like Sonic Origins and Sonic Superstars didn't happen? 😂
Oh My God it's the Pog mania Fan spriter!
11:47 I always thought that Blaze was Sonic's rival because Sonic Rush was the first Sonic game I completed. And little me seeing a girl be a rival to a boy felt a bit odd, but I really liked playing as Blaze, so I thought the rivalry was cool. 😊
Until I learned about Shadow. 😑
I've been playing Sonic games since I was like 6, and I'm still an Avid fan even to now, Sonic Discussion videos are one of my favorite things to watch. Like at the video, mamy factors still affirm Why I LOVE SONIC THE HEDGEHOG .... BTW Great thought out video indeed😊
1:24 song?
Don't reply
That's One Way Dream
Based Sonic CD praise
Sonic fans are anything but not loyal. As a Sonic fan myself for 20+years, even at the darkest times, Sonic's personality makes you want to keep going.
Sonic is just the goat fr
Durability is impressive sure, but the will of the company is respectable
Great vid
Plot armor
Sonic 3 and Knuckles, Sonic CD and Sonic adventure/heroes and Sonic The Hedgehog 4 music and Sonic generations
I thought this was a power scaling video 😂
8:20 Would have been good if you mentioned Colors. Great video tho
Lowartz cameo let's goo
Sonic The Hedgehog 2006, I loved that game. I dunno why people hate it, but it's a good game
Sonic Forces, I loved it😊
Sonic unleashed, it was phenomenal
When i think about it, i find it very weird when comparing mario and sonic.
Imo, Mario games arent too different from each other most the time. The mechanics are very similar and little to nothing is changed. (Except for the paper games, super paper mario, thousand year door, and the 1 after that were good but the game started being too heavily reliant on gimmicks for combat mechanics) yet ppl still eat it up.
Sonic fans get grumpy and claim sega is scared to change things when they constantly do.
Sonic has gone through multiple different playstyles with different mechanics yet ppl still find reasons to complain.
Mario can keep things relatively the same and no one bats an eye, meanwhile sonic cant seem to win in terms of what the fans want, even when they try their best to deliver experiences similar to what they enjoyed.
Unleashed is 1 of sonics best modern games imo and ppl HATED it back when it dropped.
3:26 sonic dash: