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  • @Micolashcage1
    @Micolashcage1 5 років тому +428

    Tomoe is going to be the next DLC boss like Friede or Maria

    • @oshenone6947
      @oshenone6947 5 років тому +18

      Hopefully

    • @scarified260893
      @scarified260893 5 років тому +3

      I do really hope this to come true!!

    • @karsten4359
      @karsten4359 5 років тому +27

      I think the dlc will be something relating to the black mortal blade, or just the mortal blade concept in general. Moonlight mortal blade?????

    • @ashenone3050
      @ashenone3050 5 років тому

      maybe Dojun too

    • @Micolashcage1
      @Micolashcage1 5 років тому +33

      @@karsten4359 Im hoping for 2 DLCs
      1) related to Tomoe
      2) where we face the old Shinobis. So far we've only met Owl, Butterfly, and Orangutan.

  • @CerbeRawr
    @CerbeRawr Рік тому +55

    Little thing about Isshin's version of lightning attacks : He does not have the power of Tomoe, instead, he "simply" catches the lightning with his spear
    He is that skilled

    • @AALion2004
      @AALion2004 8 місяців тому

      But you also have to remember isshin came out from genichiro so he probably acquired or took some of genichiro skills and power since he was technically reborn from the black mortal blade kinda makes me question why didn't he just summon Tomoe or something I mean she is his mentor

    • @dummytarget7336
      @dummytarget7336 7 місяців тому

      @@AALion2004 I think Isshin bested Tomoe so that's why Genichiro summoned him or at least survived fighting against Tomoe yet couldn't summon her because she's not dead I think.

    • @AALion2004
      @AALion2004 7 місяців тому

      @@dummytarget7336 really huh i mean she is from fountainhead palace but fountainhead probably didn't look like that in the past would've been cool tho to see Tomoe tho we hear so much about Tomoe but never see her only her grave I think there should be a dlc or prequel of sekiro where we play as Tomoe it makes sense since she has resurrect mechanic like Sekiro does

    • @dummytarget7336
      @dummytarget7336 7 місяців тому

      @@AALion2004 I think it would make more sense to play as the sculptor for a prequel because that's was originally his prosthetic and Isshin would cut off his arm paralleling the beginning of Sekiro. But for the DLC for Sekiro, I totally agree that Tomoe should be there and would be s really good final boss but playing as her, it can't really fit because she wouldn't be able to use the shinobi prosthetic.

    • @AALion2004
      @AALion2004 7 місяців тому

      @@dummytarget7336 nah I think we should play as Tomoe instead of sculptor because Tomoe has the resurrect mechanic playing as the sculptor would basically be playing as Sekiro all over again we can have newer mechanics and moves especially lightning moves and see how exactly her story ends since we never get to know what exactly happened to her the game leaves it vague and mysterious so it just begs to wonder what did she and Takeru do to reach their conclusion and this gives us a perfect chance to see younger versions of the charecters from the main game

  • @georgesakelis4514
    @georgesakelis4514 5 років тому +204

    Tomoe is perfect dlc material. While her role is important, in classic fromsoft fashion, it's in the sidelines and not really expanded upon, yet she is mentioned many times, similarly to Artorias. I strongly believe she will be the antagonist of a dlc

    • @SmoughTown
      @SmoughTown  5 років тому +10

      George Sakelis 100% spot on, she is a classic FS dlc character

    • @ghostlover9827
      @ghostlover9827 2 роки тому +14

      It been 2 fuckinf years there's been nothing but our Boi Elden Ring

    • @georgesakelis4514
      @georgesakelis4514 2 роки тому +11

      @@ghostlover9827 why did you remind me of that man😔
      Now i am sad we are not getting the dlc lol

    • @ghostlover9827
      @ghostlover9827 2 роки тому +1

      @@georgesakelis4514 well play nioh 1 and 2 and think it sekrio lol that's what I did when I wanted my Japanese souls like game

    • @Mojavay
      @Mojavay 2 роки тому +5

      i heard a rumor that malenia uses lady Tomoes animations before it was cut

  • @bbartukoglu
    @bbartukoglu 5 років тому +48

    It is great to have lore videos other than Vaati’s. Better to have unique, different storytellers like you take a stab at From’s lore. This is both a praise and a humble suggestion for not trying to be like Vaati. Thank you for these!

    • @SmoughTown
      @SmoughTown  5 років тому +3

      bbartukoglu thanks for the feedback bud! I appreciate it

    • @PennywiseTheDancingClown274
      @PennywiseTheDancingClown274 5 років тому +1

      I agree smough and vaati are great for lore similar and yet uniquely different. I have been subscribed to many lore channels and now only 2 are worth keeping. Thanks for videos!

    • @SmoughTown
      @SmoughTown  5 років тому

      @@PennywiseTheDancingClown274 Thanks bud, appreciate the kind words

  • @nanomachinesson2513
    @nanomachinesson2513 5 років тому +122

    It's probably not anything, but I'm still really curious about who the woman by the stone that lets us fight the Dragon is. Its probably not Tomoe but it would kinda be a cool story. Takeru goes and becomes one with the Dragon again thus severing her immortality where she finally dies of old age by the stone where her master passed from the world. Probably incorrect but cool to think about none the less

    • @SmoughTown
      @SmoughTown  5 років тому +6

      Nanomachines Son! OMG I would love that.

    • @Yokonato
      @Yokonato 5 років тому +33

      When you come back after beating the dragon, dialogue is available that says "the shrine maiden sleeps peacefully"

    • @WhiskeyTango76s
      @WhiskeyTango76s 5 років тому +1

      Mikko Lopez Yeah that's what I think, she was one that was offered as a bride to the palaquin.

    • @thehollowguy0069
      @thehollowguy0069 5 років тому

      @Mikko Lopez tomoe best waifu :v

    • @r3zaful
      @r3zaful 5 років тому

      Tomoe gozen

  • @porci751
    @porci751 5 років тому +179

    if we get DLC, like we got from every game since dark souls, I hope we fight Tomoe in some way

    • @Inujasa88
      @Inujasa88 5 років тому +6

      It's almost confirmed! I would be so disappointed if that would not happen.

    • @porci751
      @porci751 5 років тому +4

      @Mikko Lopez yes! That's exactly what I want, I think redirecting lightining is the coolest thing in the game, a DLC where they turn it into a trully fleshed out mechanic, with her as the final boss would be the best

    • @ddangho914
      @ddangho914 5 років тому +5

      @@porci751 Indeed. A lot of people agree that the Lightning Reversal is a cool mechanic, but it simply makes some fights easier. I find Tomoe the perfect candidate to do a counter Lightning Reversal and fry unsuspecting players.

    • @chrischauffeur9894
      @chrischauffeur9894 5 років тому +7

      @@ddangho914 Yeah, some lightning tennis with her would be fucking epic

    • @codyrisling1718
      @codyrisling1718 5 років тому +1

      Chris Chauffeur because legend of Zelda didn’t do that in 1996-1997..

  • @KaiserAfini
    @KaiserAfini 5 років тому +20

    Tomoe is also a symbol present in the drums of Raijin, Shinto god of thunder. The lichtenberg figure in Genichiro's arms is common on those struck by lightning, or in this case, perhaps it marks him as a chosen of the lightning god.

  • @Andys-u2e
    @Andys-u2e 5 років тому +181

    I like the end when you speak a little more naturally and casually.

    • @BruTalc
      @BruTalc 5 років тому +18

      Yeah, less stop and start is nice

    • @Pollokyn
      @Pollokyn 5 років тому +12

      Im starting to hate the way he talks lol

    • @definitelynotgore
      @definitelynotgore 5 років тому +3

      Kyron darko Y e s

    • @111nick6
      @111nick6 5 років тому +1

      I think he’s just intentionally slowing down to make his videos longer

    • @definitelynotgore
      @definitelynotgore 5 років тому

      Tuna poke No it’s not the speed, it’s how he accents the end of every phrase.

  • @府四
    @府四 5 років тому +24

    Well she literally has her own lore on wiki named Tomoe Gozen

    • @franciscodetonne4797
      @franciscodetonne4797 5 років тому +12

      I mean I'm disappointed that no one mentions Tomoe Gozen until I read your comment.
      She was the most badass samurai in the history of Japan. Her and those warrior monks. Holy shit.

  • @tyrellsmith5346
    @tyrellsmith5346 5 років тому +5

    I appreciate these videos. You're the only person giving a thorough breakdown of these topics. Looking forward to more!

  • @col44446
    @col44446 5 років тому +11

    2:34
    SmoughTown: Genichiro took to the heretical arts
    AutoCaptions:Genichiro took to the heretical ‘arse’

  • @Nightmareblader
    @Nightmareblader 5 років тому +28

    I agree that his blood may have been spilled at some point, but I also believe Tomoe severed her connection. Sakura Droplet description says something about it

    • @jamesburk8145
      @jamesburk8145 5 років тому +2

      isnt it that the sakura droplet is left behind by an oath failed? so maybe she assisted takeru in severing his immortality and die which is against the oath of protection that she swore.

    • @Nightmareblader
      @Nightmareblader 5 років тому +1

      James Burk Sorry, I misunderstood the Sakura Droplet description. It’s residue left behind when an oath fails to be established. It could be that Lady Butterfly tried to use her illusions to trick Kuro, but her plan failed. I can’t think of any other reason why it would be on her :/

  • @thatonestormtrooper2760
    @thatonestormtrooper2760 5 років тому +12

    Have you noticed how genichiro doesnt use lightning in your last fight against him? Weird that he wouldn't pull out all the stops in your last fight

  • @ddangho914
    @ddangho914 5 років тому +32

    I'm having a slight feeling that Tomoe might not just be Genichiro's mentor, but also his mother. First, it felt a bit weird why his memory would mention that 'Genichiro was born a peasant' when there is barely anything that mentions about his parents. It is also weird because his grandfather is none other than the legendary Sword Saint, who is currently the ruler of Ashina, and even before that he was the leader who rebelled against the previous ruler. Maybe Isshin or his son just had some loose ends, but its an odd detail that From Soft would point out. Also, I found it really weird that Genichiro was able to summon his grandfather using the Black Mortal Blade, because although the description on the Black Scroll(an item which has the sole purpose of foreshadowing the existence of the Black Mortal Blade) says 'offerings FOR the Dragon's Blood', in the original Japanese text it actually says 'offerings WITH the Dragon's Blood'. Genichiro may have drank the Rejuvenating Waters and become somewhat immortal, but the game strongly established that the Rejuvenating Waters is a crude replica of the Dragons Blood, and doesn't seem like a worthy substitute.
    However, if Tomoe is Genichiro's mother, it would explain why Genichiro is 'born a peasant' since Tomoe was an outsider, but also someone close enough to Isshin to make him Genichiro's grandfather. Perhaps a rivalry that ended in friendship, and then family? Also if Tomoe was Genichiro's mother, this would make Genichiro a direct blood relative of someone who had the power of the Dragon's Blood, a much more favorable offering to use the Black Mortal Blade to summon someone from the Netherworld.

    • @Bazonkaz
      @Bazonkaz 5 років тому +1

      Freaddy i think genichiro is a foster child

    • @tlloxus1714
      @tlloxus1714 5 років тому +1

      L Brea ye, he was adopted by the Ashina family

  • @okami7847
    @okami7847 2 роки тому +16

    Isshin is stated to have honed his swordsmanship through adopting the techniques of those he fought and adding it to his own. He faced Lady Tomoe, which is most likely how he can use the Dragon's Lightning.

    • @insertedgynamehere___969
      @insertedgynamehere___969 2 роки тому

      Then why cant we use it when he gave us his esoteric?
      The esoteric that combined all that he had learned and combined

    • @okami7847
      @okami7847 2 роки тому +1

      @@insertedgynamehere___969 Because it's a heretical art, and it's not Ashina Style either. In fact, the Floating Passage & Cloud Spiral Passage esoteric text (which are also heretical) depict an Okami Warrior performing the technique rather than the standard warrior.
      We never obtain a Okami Esoteric Text, which probably would have contained techniques they honed like the Dragon's Lightning.

    • @okami7847
      @okami7847 2 роки тому

      @@insertedgynamehere___969 Oh my bad you meant the Mushin Arts one right? I have no idea about that then.

    • @insertedgynamehere___969
      @insertedgynamehere___969 2 роки тому

      @@okami7847 yes, the Mushin one. I had forgotten the name

    • @haaris897
      @haaris897 9 місяців тому

      When Isshin uses the lightening attack he doesn’t actually use the technique tomoe did. Instead he just catches the lightening and throws it at us

  • @draconicfeline6177
    @draconicfeline6177 Рік тому +4

    If Isshin was in love with Tomoe, that's also in a way "coming close to death." That said, I believe it's pretty well stated that Lady Tomoe was an Okami warrior woman and she came with Takeru from fountainhead palace. She was probably more human looking than the ones we meet there, but its not impossible that the level of corruption and dragonrot that has lead to the inhumanity of the nobles and warriors there is a relatively recent development. I saw a theory where the dragon's rot (which you symbolically cut out as the old dragons of the tree) was why Takeru and Tomoe got the hell out of Fountainhead.
    I really want more about them. And ROBERTO.

  • @jmcevoy5551
    @jmcevoy5551 5 років тому +143

    Please just speak normally as you did at the end of the video. That would sound much better

    • @borischan5252
      @borischan5252 5 років тому +8

      he is trying to copy the style of another youtuber who does Dark Souls and Bloodborne lore

    • @jmcevoy5551
      @jmcevoy5551 5 років тому

      @@borischan5252 One mind syndicate? His voice is terrible too

    • @thegreatMSG
      @thegreatMSG 5 років тому +7

      @@jmcevoy5551
      not Mind syndicate.. he is trying to imitate VaatiVidya LOL.... unfortunately his voice isn't deep enough.

    • @jessiejoy1703
      @jessiejoy1703 5 років тому

      They have different play speeds for a reason my dudes

    • @Jonathan-ek7ky
      @Jonathan-ek7ky 4 роки тому

      He has the Burger King foot lettuce disease

  • @2mutchfreetime
    @2mutchfreetime 5 років тому +15

    I'd really like to play as Genichiro in the dlc. It would be neat if it started after the midway fight with him and then you play as him searching for the black mortal blade

    • @GehrmansWheelchair
      @GehrmansWheelchair 5 років тому +11

      Jesus Christ could you fucking imagine fighting against Sekiro and all of his fucking ninja tools in the rice fields at the end??? It would be the end of my Sanity but I would revel in every waking minute of it

    • @GehrmansWheelchair
      @GehrmansWheelchair 5 років тому

      MysteriousAeon I meant the final fight

  • @einwithshades1677
    @einwithshades1677 5 років тому +11

    I'm going to share my notes regarding to Tomoe.
    There's no indication of Tomoe dying in the game, only a failed suicide attempt was mentioned.
    The second Okami Combat Arts indicates Tomoe was in love with Takeru, although whatever or not this feeling was mutual or not we do not know for certain.
    The Sakura Droplet we receive after defeating Lady Butterfly proofs that Tomoe severed her Dragon Oath with Takeru; indicating they went for the purification route (or something similar to Return), but Takeru being the one that loses his life.
    However, the mystery of why it end up in Lady Butterfly's possession, or rather hidden away by the Hirata family in the underground Buddha Shrine will probably never be answered.
    Regarding to the graves, it's most likely symbolic. I do not believe Takeru's physical body is there, even if it is it serves little importance. After the severance ritual Takeru states he returned to the divine realm in the aroma of the fountainhead may not just be a figure of speech. In the purification ending, Sekiro cuts himself, but rather than bleeding, sakura petals scatters into the sky. Could this be the essence/blood of the divine dragon? And does this apply to the physical body as well? The Ever Blossom Tree shares a strong link with the Divine Dragon, may even be the same entity.
    None the less, Tomoe would had brought his body back to Fountainhead Palace, which was Takeru's birthplace as hinted in a few occasion.
    Aromatic Flower item states: it was Takeru that brought forth the Ever Blossom branch from Fountainhead and planted it in Ashina castle.
    We have all the reasons to believe the mysterious Shrine Maiden in Fountainhead Sanctuary is none other than Tomoe herself. We do know she didn't die from the ritual, as Emma states only one of the two lives will be lost in the path of Purification.
    Two, she has access to Fountainhead being an Okami-warrior herself and collected the Divine Dragon Tear for the ritual, and even trained Genichiro there (Emma uttered something about him training in the storm of clouds with Tomoe).
    As for why she's at the sanctuary? Your guess is as good as mine. Maybe she brought Takeru's essence back to the Divine Dragon in cradle form, or his essence is in part with the Divine Dragon now, and she sees Takeru in her dream? Remember, Tomoe was infatuated with Takeru.
    Side note, I also believe Tomoe, (if the Shrine Maiden is indeed Tomoe) had the Black Mortal Blade at her possession, and Genichiro went to obtain it after retreating from Ashina Castle; realizing the Mortal Blade is needed to kill Sekiro. No evidence to support this claim, just a hunch. After all, that slab of rock or altar at the sanctuary had to hold something of significance. We had to fetch the stone, flower and the other Mortal Blade before getting access to Fountainhead Palace, thus explains why we don't get to see Genichiro at Fountainhead.
    Also, Isshin is a master of martial arts and learned Tomoe's techniques after fighting her, I do not think he inherited the way of lightning because he spawned from Gen's body. The real question is why is a Sword Saint's strongest asset is a spear??? And a glock17 sidearm.
    Anyways, it's quite possible Isshin was suffering from the wound he received from Tomoe, and dies as a result. Or at least a major contribution to his demise.
    Feel free to disagree, I'm open to other perspectives.

    • @kasp7674
      @kasp7674 5 років тому

      +Ein with shades
      I think that the reason why Isshin uses a spear is because of his fight with General Tamura, the one he defeated in the cg trailer. He probably picked up the spear after the fight, as he came to recognize it's power. The same might be said of his use of Tomoe's lightning techniques. He might have picked them up after his near death experience with Tomoe. I mean it was stated that he sought all kinds of techniques at some point in his life, if I remember correctly.

    • @serlistogiette4168
      @serlistogiette4168 5 років тому

      As far as I could tell you can only get the divine dragon tear with the "Gracious Gift of Tears" mortal blade;however, seeing as she could not find it she could not complete either rite. Which is where their quest ended.

    • @tlloxus1714
      @tlloxus1714 5 років тому +1

      Drawek it’s said in gyoubus memory that Isshin gave Tamuras spear to Gyoubu

  • @toostronk2088
    @toostronk2088 5 років тому +13

    They definitely got hold of the black mortal blade. Though the game specifically stated that you need the red one for immortal severance. It is possible that they used the black one for purification and Takeru did indeed return to the divine realm and died there as a human.

    • @jocksmachina7759
      @jocksmachina7759 Рік тому

      I thought this as well! It is probably how Genichiro knew where to find it!

  • @afterastrum
    @afterastrum 5 років тому +9

    The black mortal blade doesn’t have the ability to kill the undying. Its purpose is for resurrection

    • @Sidharth_V_Jain
      @Sidharth_V_Jain 3 місяці тому

      Might it be that both can be used to kill the undying, but only the black one can open a gate to the underworld, and only the red one can obtain the dragons tears?

  • @nerdothn892
    @nerdothn892 3 роки тому +3

    4:04 of you look closely you can see that isshin just simply catches lighting with his spear

  • @enthiegavoir5955
    @enthiegavoir5955 5 років тому +4

    Tomoe is such a mysterious and imposing figure within the background that they need to include a fight with her in the DLC

  • @Melqhii
    @Melqhii 5 років тому +19

    *Slowly utters phrase, gasps for life, repeat

  • @laur.33
    @laur.33 5 років тому +9

    I wonder why Genichiro summoned Isshin at the end... does he consider Isshin stronger than Tomoe? Or is Tomoe still alive and thus can't be summoned using the underworld sword?

    • @SmoughTown
      @SmoughTown  5 років тому +10

      Yes - I believe it is the latter, he summons his grandfather from beyond the grave. Isshin also represents everything Genichiro desires - a strong Ashina

  • @sarkasmdaimyo2572
    @sarkasmdaimyo2572 Рік тому +2

    When Isshin say's "I was completely taken by Her and it almost killed Me" in My opinion it's a double meaning He was taken by Her beauty(She may have looked more human facially) fell in love with Her, also He was taken by Her Martial Prowess. That how I'd perceived Tomoe.

  • @battlecubes4762
    @battlecubes4762 5 років тому +73

    man, I really like your content. You just need to stop those weird pauses you do every other word. It's very annoying after awhile

    • @SmoughTown
      @SmoughTown  5 років тому +22

      I'll consider revising the speaking style, thank you

  • @Qbone_
    @Qbone_ 5 років тому +37

    i really like the lore in sekiro

    • @Mygrandpaspodcast
      @Mygrandpaspodcast 5 років тому +3

      Q Bone me too really sucks that more people aren’t covering it

    • @Mygrandpaspodcast
      @Mygrandpaspodcast 5 років тому +5

      I love sekiro but it definitely didn’t strike a chord quite like ds or bb still absolutely amazing but nothing lorewise will top bloodborne for me

    • @Qbone_
      @Qbone_ 5 років тому

      @@Mygrandpaspodcast ikr I wish more people will I hope vavti does some

    • @anactualguy8257
      @anactualguy8257 5 років тому

      @penalcrack its not even mysterious like ds or bb, things just are. It doesnt feel like unique story telling. Quite honestly, it feels like lazy/rushed lore hidden behind the illusion of mystery and intrigue. I fucking hate it.

    • @0816M3RC
      @0816M3RC 5 років тому +1

      Lil Thanos Calm down kid.

  • @codafett
    @codafett 3 роки тому +2

    Kinda seems like she was supposed to be a DLC character or something. But clearly there wasn't one.

  • @pidgeonscythe73
    @pidgeonscythe73 5 років тому +26

    I don't think that Isshin was almost literally killed by her but that he fell in love with her which almost became his downfall.

    • @SmoughTown
      @SmoughTown  5 років тому +9

      Hmm that's a VERY interesting take, defo could be possible.

    • @gabzdark07
      @gabzdark07 5 років тому +1

      @Mikko Lopez Well... she had pretty eyes lol. I wouldn't be surprised if Tomoe was Genichiro's grandma.

    • @aledg25
      @aledg25 5 років тому +1

      Tomoe was a real female warrior in Japanese history and she was described as being very tall and beautiful so, it's not far fetched to assume that it was a love at first sight type scenario lol

    • @gabzdark07
      @gabzdark07 5 років тому +1

      @@aledg25 Yeah, he does use her technique after all.

    • @DnVFMVs
      @DnVFMVs 5 років тому

      old guys like thicc too

  • @blaavo
    @blaavo 5 років тому +1

    this is like having a 90 year old librarian teach your favorite subject

  • @starman69
    @starman69 5 років тому +2

    Crushing it with the lore sir! Keep it up!!!

    • @SmoughTown
      @SmoughTown  5 років тому

      Thanks my friend. More to come!

  • @thomas_the_cat
    @thomas_the_cat 5 років тому +3

    if u come back after the divine dragon fight and tries to talk with the woman on the altar, it just says “the shrine maiden is deep asleep”... so not much clue there, for now... still trying to sweep all corners of the game’s world myself as we all know how miyazaki mostly tells his stories thru hidden quests, hidden NPCs, or item descriptions and locations
    for the dlc, this is my guess... the plot follows the “return” ending, and the setting would either be europe or china (china is west of japan after all, and has a lot of history with dragons)... and we’ll get to see either or both tomoe and the robert the armor guy mentions
    also, hopefully emma would be back

    • @tywatchesvideos
      @tywatchesvideos 5 років тому

      Robert is the armored warrior's son. He got bodied by the dudes in senpou temple during experiments

    • @thomas_the_cat
      @thomas_the_cat 5 років тому

      @@tywatchesvideos i know he's the armor guy's son... but i haven't noticed anything directly implying he's somewhere in the game

  • @vectorfox4782
    @vectorfox4782 3 роки тому +1

    We should’ve had that lightning attack as a metal rod prosthetic. Idc if it cost 5 spirit emblems, as long as it could paralyze the enemy, it would’ve been worth it. Missed opportunity.

  • @shafraazali2633
    @shafraazali2633 5 років тому +1

    Just found your lore channel and I gotta say, even though you prolly hear this a lot, I though you at least had like 200k subs, the videos are high quality and well narrated, good shit my guy

    • @SmoughTown
      @SmoughTown  5 років тому +1

      Thanks Bro - that's really encouraging to hear :)

  • @navdragoni
    @navdragoni 5 років тому +2

    I don't think tomoe was like the Okami Warriors, I think all of them changed with the experiments for attaining immortality. The old lady in fountainhead palace is the only one that looks human, and she says that everyone was corrupted with promisses of nobility and immortality. That's another interesting story.

  • @seano6859
    @seano6859 3 роки тому +4

    Never getting this dlc saddens me

  • @sul141
    @sul141 5 років тому +1

    Great video man. I used to watch vaati for Fromsoft lore but I'll definitely watch you from now on!

  • @justhaidars
    @justhaidars 5 років тому +2

    Nice video.
    Meanwhile, I am waiting for Tomoe Esoteric Text in the DLC.
    Real skill tree for the sword dancing style.

  • @RevAustin68
    @RevAustin68 5 років тому +2

    I wonder if in the DLC we’ll go back into memories and battle a younger isshin and tamoe. That would be badass.

  • @salival3761
    @salival3761 5 років тому +6

    Smough is the Vaati of Sekiro

    • @SmoughTown
      @SmoughTown  5 років тому +2

      You are too kind my friend, I wish!

    • @ghoulish6125
      @ghoulish6125 5 років тому +2

      @@SmoughTown I mean, you've got him topped in lore vids so far my dude

  • @Sancheech
    @Sancheech 5 років тому +18

    The pronunciation is throwing me off Isshin even says it for you in the video it's Tow-mo-a

    • @Inev
      @Inev 5 років тому +2

      The same with Genichiro, it's actually tilting me

    • @smocloud
      @smocloud 5 років тому +1

      Glad I’m not alone... irks me so badly.

  • @faqih764
    @faqih764 4 роки тому +1

    Sensei Ishikawa will hunt you every second

  • @ahmedrhh
    @ahmedrhh 5 років тому +5

    Keep on working hard you’ll make it

    • @SmoughTown
      @SmoughTown  5 років тому

      lens redemption thanks friend :)

  • @sgwcyingko
    @sgwcyingko 5 років тому +1

    When first I heard of Lady Tomoe's name, I thought of her as the fame Tomoe Gozen...

  • @wadethrurivers
    @wadethrurivers 5 років тому +1

    I believe they bargained with Isshin after learning of his mortal blade. This is why Tomoe is accepted by him / Genichiro’s mentor.

  • @ty-xq7bl
    @ty-xq7bl 2 роки тому

    best sekiro lore channel

  • @WhiskeyTango76s
    @WhiskeyTango76s 5 років тому +1

    Something interesting about Takeru, from some of his description from Emma he sounds a bit like a Palace Noble, one description mentions him watching Tomoe dancing under the Everblossom while...and get this, playing a flute. This sounds like a scene that came straight outta the Fountain Head Palace(except he's not crazed and trying to steal her life essence..or is he..?)

    • @WhiskeyTango76s
      @WhiskeyTango76s 5 років тому

      While I'm not committed to this I do find it very interesting. The game seems to put alot of effort into making sure the player knows he wasn't just simply wanting to go home, it was something much deeper than that by reading item/skill descriptions. He had a very strong connection with the D Realm, more than what you'd expect from someone who simply wants to go back home. Hopefully I was able to convey my thoughts on it without making it sound like something I don't actually mean, I suck at explaining things like that without feeling like I explained it wrongly and made it sound like something entirely different than what I actually mean.

  • @femtohimself71
    @femtohimself71 5 років тому

    genichiro, the okami babes and sekiro have the same attack sequence called spiral cloud passage. it's the same exact move, if you pay attention close enough you'll see what i'm talking about. this is also the same movement as floating passage. if you try to do spiral cloud while you have no emblems you perform floating passage.

  • @hekutatheronin4925
    @hekutatheronin4925 5 років тому +2

    I'm also sure tomoe is gonna have more lightning moves too like stuff we're gonna be forced to dodge

  • @xminteee300
    @xminteee300 5 років тому +22

    Hey man, great video, but I think it would be a good idea to work on your delivery. The way the tone and pitch varies the exact same way in every sentence is a bit annoying and sounds unnatural. Try delivering the lines in a more natural way. The content itself is great tho! Subscribed.

    • @SmoughTown
      @SmoughTown  5 років тому +5

      Thanks for the feedback and the subscription! - i'll try to find a fine line between clear delivery and sounding more natural

    • @garrettschrepfer7659
      @garrettschrepfer7659 5 років тому +4

      SmoughTown I used to work in radio, and we would have to read off scripts quite a lot. A good trick they taught me to sound more natural on air is to put up a picture of someone you love, like your mother or something, and have a conversation with her. This little trick definitely helped my rise and fall of my voice to sound much more natural

    • @Pollokyn
      @Pollokyn 5 років тому

      I really like smough videos but his tone is so annoying to me as a non english speaker ;;

    • @SmoughTown
      @SmoughTown  5 років тому +1

      @@Pollokyn What would improve it for you? Thanks!

    • @Pollokyn
      @Pollokyn 5 років тому +1

      @@SmoughTown i would prefer a more natural tone :) not so many pitch varies as xMinteee said haha like the way you spoke at the end of the video :D keep up the great job making this videos man! :) its awesome that you want to improve!

  • @anamggss
    @anamggss 5 років тому +6

    Damn, Tomoe looks good in that thumbnail ;)
    Oh wait.....

  • @jeremyrm7
    @jeremyrm7 5 років тому +1

    Definitely interesting to hear your input on the game

    • @SmoughTown
      @SmoughTown  5 років тому

      Thanks my friend :) More to come

  • @mcdugi14
    @mcdugi14 5 років тому +1

    Great videos m8, earned a sub

    • @SmoughTown
      @SmoughTown  5 років тому

      ori stearns thanks my friend. Appreciate the support

  • @SpartanxApathy
    @SpartanxApathy 5 років тому +2

    The Old Grave is empty later in the game, noticed after I tried to fight Demon of Hatred. I forgot to check it before but from the video looks like it is not empty. Unless I saw a different grave lol

  • @ultragamer4465
    @ultragamer4465 2 роки тому

    4:05 incorrect. Isshin seems to not have any direct powerbuff from Genichiro rather Isshin seems to be a collector of techniques and skills as he is the only character to master multiple weapons and using them in harmony. He is a Sword Saint and so is the culmination of all manner of techniques. Only such a man can establish a new nation like Ashina

  • @Titanthegamer
    @Titanthegamer 5 років тому +5

    I really enjoy your lore videos. Keep it up !

    • @SmoughTown
      @SmoughTown  5 років тому

      Louis Berard thanks my friend! I love making them

  • @MultiAFroDuck
    @MultiAFroDuck 5 років тому +3

    i thank u for the sekiro lore!

    • @SmoughTown
      @SmoughTown  5 років тому +1

      You are welcome friend

  • @firearmhyuk
    @firearmhyuk 5 років тому +1

    I need more lore on that divine dragon.

  • @jaykingston9516
    @jaykingston9516 7 місяців тому +3

    Tomoe is malenia from elden ring.

  • @pvpeet9374
    @pvpeet9374 Рік тому

    I doubt that Tomoe achieved the severance. You need the mortal blade we use to get the dragons tears, which you use for the severance. The red blade is even called „the gracious gift of tears“. Tomoe only found the black blade - named „open gate“ as it opens the gate to the underworld, which is proven by the final boss. She searched high and low but the red blade was hidden by the monks, so she never found it. She probably fought the Devine Dragon with the black blade, maybe that’s why he is crippled. She could however never acquire the tear and therefore failed in her quest as it is necessary for every ending (except Shura).

  • @gluteusmaximus4904
    @gluteusmaximus4904 5 років тому +4

    Who is the corpse found at the shrine going to the divine dragon boss? Could that be tomoe?

    • @thatguitarguy9157
      @thatguitarguy9157 5 років тому

      It could be maybe she was after the dragon tears for takeru but didn't make it aw that's sad to think about

    • @Micolashcage1
      @Micolashcage1 5 років тому +1

      its not a corpse. she's sleeping

  • @les8947
    @les8947 5 років тому +1

    dlc has to be on tomoe! believe it!

  • @Wenyfile
    @Wenyfile 5 років тому +6

    Sekiro literally says how you pronounce it. Tomo-e

  • @PlacidDirge
    @PlacidDirge 4 роки тому

    It is stated that Isshin was falling for Tomoe but if she looks anything like the majority of those inhabbiting the divine realm then beauty is indeed in the eyes of the beholder.
    I collected the text for floating passage before fighting Genichiro so after hearing that Tomoe was his mentor it only made sense to theorize that this mad his sword style distinct from others of the Ashina school.
    Although it has been a year now I'll still be interested in seeing DLC content of Lady Tomoe.

    • @savary5050
      @savary5050 Рік тому +2

      The people in the divine realm only look like that because of drinking the divine water. Tomoe has true immortality and as such would just look like human.

  • @shagGus100
    @shagGus100 5 років тому

    I was waiting for some lore videos regarding Tomoe so thanks for it man.
    It could be great if Lady Tomoe will appear in upcomming DLC - maybe we will be able to find another Bell for Budda statue to offer? And it will take us back when Lady Tomoe and Lord Takuro lives and they were trying to break immortality? Just my thoughts

  • @UnholyWrath3277
    @UnholyWrath3277 5 років тому

    I like to think isshin knew the way of tomoe as well. He just was to old and frail to utilize it. When he resurrects its clear he recognizes you and has his old man consciousness. I feel with his prime body he could go fully and use it

  • @Creeepling
    @Creeepling 5 років тому +1

    How would severance be achieved if you can't get the tears using the black mortal blade? :(

  • @lucy-pero
    @lucy-pero 2 роки тому +1

    Why couldn't Tomoe get the Mortal Blade? She had trouble with the monkeys boss fight? 🤣

  • @SixHolyStrings
    @SixHolyStrings 5 років тому

    There are a LOT of things wrong and/or misrepresented in this video, I'm not gonna write them all out but for one that was indeed Tomoe and ?Takura?'s (I forget now) grave, Emma explicitly says so when you meet her there and before she goes there, also you just glossed over how it's clearly been dug up recently, which could definitely be an important part of what is going on currently with either Genichiro or the Interior Ministry

  • @thesnowman7590
    @thesnowman7590 5 років тому

    It would be awesome if we get a dlc where we see Tomoe, fight her, and get a lightning combat upon beating her

  • @Captain_Tryhard
    @Captain_Tryhard 5 років тому

    Then it makes a lot of sense, how genichiro would have the black mortal blade. It's because tomoe got her hand on it first for the immortal severance and maybe "passing" it to her student.

    • @aledg25
      @aledg25 5 років тому

      Tomoe never found the blade or achieved immortal severance though

  • @gastonrios763
    @gastonrios763 5 років тому

    Tomoe may be the woman below the dragon, and the dragon may be takeru, that would be interesting

  • @hekutatheronin4925
    @hekutatheronin4925 5 років тому +1

    Oof that floating passage move is gonna be in lady tomoe's boss moveset I just know it

    • @ghoulish6125
      @ghoulish6125 5 років тому +5

      Doesn't Genechiro use a part of it in his combo as well?

    • @hekutatheronin4925
      @hekutatheronin4925 5 років тому

      @@ghoulish6125 not entirely but I know which combo string you're talking about. It's reminiscent of the floating passing move but he's developed a more aggressive version

  • @Waitingspartan
    @Waitingspartan 5 років тому +1

    Isn't Lord Takeru that dead child you find in that cave in which you have to pray in order to access the Divine Dragon boss?

  • @PekoXXL
    @PekoXXL 5 років тому +1

    at one point tomoe said takeru's coughing is getting worse. i wonder what that hints

    • @SmoughTown
      @SmoughTown  5 років тому

      I know - I wonder if the Dragon's Heir can stagnate

    • @PekoXXL
      @PekoXXL 5 років тому +1

      @@SmoughTown if his blood is stagnating wouldnt that mean people around him are the ones who should be coughing? not the other way round

    • @SmoughTown
      @SmoughTown  5 років тому

      @@PekoXXL I'd assume so - i'm just wondering if there is some progression to the Dragon's Heir themselves that we are not yet aware of.

    • @PekoXXL
      @PekoXXL 5 років тому

      @@SmoughTown well emma did tell sekiro to report to her if anything more unusual is happening to his body, so yeah that may be the case.

  • @BigBossMan1996
    @BigBossMan1996 5 років тому +3

    Fun Fact; Lady Tomoe is a freak in the training dojo.

    • @BigBossMan1996
      @BigBossMan1996 5 років тому +2

      There is no training dojo, she still freaky thooough

  • @fuyifuyi9356
    @fuyifuyi9356 5 років тому

    Can somebody help me?
    (Spoilers)
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    At the end of the game you can get three different endings (so far?). Except sura ofcourse.
    To get them you have to choose:
    -give Kuro tears of divine dragon;
    -give Kuro tears of divine dragon and frozen tears;
    -give Kuro tears of divine dragon and everblossom.
    After I finished the game I watched Lobos's first playthrough and at the and he have only one choice "give Kuro tears of divine dragon"
    But in my playthrough I have two choices:
    -give Kuro tears of divine dragon;
    -dont give Kuro tears of divine dragon (might be different, I play in Russian language).
    It was "dont give", not choice to give Kuro another tears or something.
    I choose first one and never see what the second one do.
    Is there another secret ending? Because it can't be choice for close dialogue (you can press B) or stay in game (you have that opportunity after cutscene).
    What was that?

  • @scarvello
    @scarvello 5 років тому

    And even if you look at the scripts it’s not a human doing the moves it’s one of those okami beings👀

  • @bjrnalmlof6128
    @bjrnalmlof6128 5 років тому +2

    Do you have some explaination for the apparition nightjars that appear in either the sunken valley or mibu village once you beat the boss of the other? I've allways wondered why they're there

    • @XSimonEntertainmentX
      @XSimonEntertainmentX 5 років тому

      I assumed they were spirit who deliver karmic justice on you for all the killings.

    • @SmoughTown
      @SmoughTown  5 років тому +1

      In the loading screens it teases these spirits: 'At night vengeful spirits appear' or something. I went to Mibu really early last playthrough and there were no spirits. Also if you explore at the end of the game there are spirits of enemies you have previously killed everywhere.
      So they are spirits that come out at night - most probably the spirits of people we personally have killed.

    • @bjrnalmlof6128
      @bjrnalmlof6128 5 років тому +1

      @@SmoughTown but i didn't kill any nightjar in that playthrough. It may just assume that you did tho, idk

    • @SmoughTown
      @SmoughTown  5 років тому

      @@bjrnalmlof6128 Could be - or it doesn't need to be ones you have killed personally. Just 'angry' spirits.

    • @WhiskeyTango76s
      @WhiskeyTango76s 5 років тому

      SmoughTown Are you talking about exploring after beating the game, before starting NG+? If so that might make me explore a little after beating it again just to see if those I've killed really start to haunt the area.

  • @beakdd
    @beakdd 5 років тому +5

    Tohm-oh-eh, not Tohm-oy...

    • @deppudeppudeppu
      @deppudeppudeppu 5 років тому

      @InoshiKenshi It's written as 巴, read ともえ (toh-mo-eh)

    • @K0RGAN0S7
      @K0RGAN0S7 5 років тому

      Naah.. It's toh.. ohm.. boiiy..

  • @justanotherguy5915
    @justanotherguy5915 5 років тому

    One of the most coolest boss I have ever fight with

  • @crispinmcfiddlesticks5125
    @crispinmcfiddlesticks5125 5 років тому

    I wonder if they'll refer to her by her historical name, Tomoe Gozen, in the (probably coming) DLC.
    Anyway, great video! I'm just wondering if you changed something script-writing wise, in some parts your speech seemed more fragmented in odd locations than I seem to recall.

  • @jankfloyd158
    @jankfloyd158 5 років тому +1

    awesome videos. you should play with Japanese voice acting! they sound so animated in English

  • @Ninjahiccups_
    @Ninjahiccups_ 5 років тому

    Am I the only one that thinks Tomoe and Takeru appeared human? Like they left the palace soon after the dragon arrived and by the time Tomoe went back for the tears everyone had had enough water to become fish people? So the Okami were all once normal humans?

  • @thatguitarguy9157
    @thatguitarguy9157 5 років тому +4

    ANOTHER THOUGHT how did Genichiro get the other mortal blade

    • @cripthegoose2320
      @cripthegoose2320 5 років тому +1

      If you check the chest right beside isshins tower there is a text that speaks of a black mortal blade and I think how to get it

    • @PennywiseTheDancingClown274
      @PennywiseTheDancingClown274 5 років тому

      Memory dlc? Play as genichiro and final boss sekiro and cutting off his arm.
      Spoilers below
      Jokes aside how does owl have it in shura ending?

    • @PennywiseTheDancingClown274
      @PennywiseTheDancingClown274 5 років тому

      @Mikko Lopez ya most likely answer is it was stolen. Genichiro still cuts your arm off and more interesting thought is if you play as a nightjar like the one that distracted you with shuriken but that's too resident evil 2 for my taste I didn't like that kind of dlc. I have different serious post about dlc lol

    • @neoa3562
      @neoa3562 5 років тому +4

      @@PennywiseTheDancingClown274 maybe when you were fighting emma/isshin, Owl whooped genichiro's ass and took the black mortal blade lol

    • @PennywiseTheDancingClown274
      @PennywiseTheDancingClown274 5 років тому

      I have to go do some digging now you got me thinking how much did isshin know of the mortal blades he knew of one but which one. He does mention that each time Genichiro draws the blade his health gets worse... Why? Why is he connected like that to the blade. Isshin did sound remorseful when realizing that Genichiros mortal blade was connected to underworld which he could feel as such because he knows sekiro will beat him and knows what Genichiro will wish for depending on isshin knowledge of blades... Like I said these are theories and I need to refresh memory

  • @M1nus_p
    @M1nus_p 5 років тому

    Takeru is the body you see just before the Divine Dragon right?

  • @mezeporta
    @mezeporta 5 років тому

    I hope Tomoe isn't the next Velka, mentioned in the game and never to be seen

  • @revfunk8823
    @revfunk8823 5 років тому +1

    Then how do we explain the plethora of droplets in the world?

  • @cor.tenebrarum
    @cor.tenebrarum 5 років тому

    I thought Tomoe is that dead girl at the altar before divine dragon boss.

  • @thatguitarguy9157
    @thatguitarguy9157 5 років тому +1

    I need more omg this is the best from game ever made my favorite game ever made tbh it is so perfect I hope we have DLC also you give me the lore I love and need I would love to know more about the divine dragon and the land in the west

    • @SmoughTown
      @SmoughTown  5 років тому

      That Guitar Guy I think it is mine as well, time will tell!

    • @thatguitarguy9157
      @thatguitarguy9157 5 років тому +1

      @@SmoughTown I'm on my 3rd playthrough doing the shura ending this is such an amazing game like Holy crap man 😂

    • @sablemae8853
      @sablemae8853 5 років тому

      I'm only halfway and I'm starting to think it's mine also just a nose ahead of bloodborne

    • @SmoughTown
      @SmoughTown  5 років тому

      @@thatguitarguy9157 I agree man - the Shura ending has so many conflicting feels! Epic

  • @AALion2004
    @AALion2004 8 місяців тому

    I have a theory that Owl had something to do with the downfall of Tomoe and Takeru since he has the Aromatic branch that for some reason he stole or took from takerus tree I think Owl was responsible for their downfall and deaths he even tries to pull the same shit on Sekiro and Kuro but it didn't work out this time and he also killed genichiro Aka tomoes student with such ease in the Shura ending so he definitely fought Tomoe before

  • @PennywiseTheDancingClown274
    @PennywiseTheDancingClown274 5 років тому

    The video got me thinking about dlc and I wouldn't be surprised if dlc will involve tomoe. She must be alive since they speak of her in present tense. Another possible dlc could be dosunn or the evil doc in abandoned dungeon as I feel like they left those story's as if there will be more about them or their "school." I know they leave story open a lot in fromsoft but these just feel like something they will expand on.

    • @SmoughTown
      @SmoughTown  5 років тому

      Defo my thoughts, from what we know of FromSoftware, she fits the bill of tertiary characters who are drip fed through the story but we don't actually meet. I.e. Artorias, Alonne, Ludwig, Laurence etc.

  • @Tofuey
    @Tofuey 5 років тому

    Definitely gonna be a dlc final boss

  • @TheSnoozeFox
    @TheSnoozeFox 5 років тому

    Reminder that Tengu is Isshin in disguise

  • @tier3290
    @tier3290 5 років тому +2

    I feel like I’m cheating on Vaatividya when I’m watching this

    • @datboi1209
      @datboi1209 5 років тому

      Same but I’ll still watch his lore videos too if he makes any for sekiro

  • @jakecummings1318
    @jakecummings1318 5 років тому

    Tomoe is probably a dlc boss

  • @tatezaray2903
    @tatezaray2903 5 років тому +1

    Maybe the girl on the rock just before the divine dragon was tomoe ?

    • @kasp7674
      @kasp7674 5 років тому +1

      @Mikko Lopez Chances are that Tomoe doesn't look like the Okami, considering their eyes, if they look like the men, would just be hollowed out sockets, which is probably not something Isshin would infatuated by.

  • @leopardito3701
    @leopardito3701 Рік тому +4

    Malenia?

  • @aidanprice4097
    @aidanprice4097 5 років тому +4

    I really like the video but it seems like there is a comma after every few words