(Wipes away a tear) They grow up so fast. One day they're watching and loving anything on screen just because it moves, and then suddenly, they're deliberately seeking out media just so they can hate it. This kiddo is gonna hit the Internet running.
Hulk hogan and steven seagal movies, eh eh. and the bad movie review collection, good media of weird questionable quality out there. She is grown up , true
For bat lady, Matangi, she does appear in a mid credits scene which also is pointless but has Tamatoa and is attempting to setup a third film or rather a second season if they kept it a series.
It was announced as a tv series, actually, and the side characters were meant to get developed, and then they wanted it to be stitched together for a movie.
I love the original Moana. It's my favourite Disney film for good reason: Moana's character journey is so personally significant to me. As a trans person, the disapproval from her family members giving way to her own self-doubt always really resonated with me, as did the core theme of identity and actualising oneself as who one truly is despite overwhelming pushback. Little moments that tapped into this like her looking through the crowd at her grandmother in the distance during Where we are, or "I'll be satisfied if I play along" from How far Ill go really elevated the film for me, and makes the self-acceptance and actualization of I am Moana so much more potent, "the call isn't out there at all it's inside me". I was looking for even a bit of that emotional and thematic depth in this film, and I was seriously left wanting. The only times I found myself really feeling something for Moana was during the scenes depicting her family finally accepting and celebrating her as a wayfinder, and at the end when she SPOILER ALERT effectively died but was saved by her spiritual connection to her poeple. Other than that, I found the movie to be pretty lacking, and overall, far shallower than I was hoping for. I'm somewhat optimistic about the sequel due it being the third part of a trilogy, as I expect it to have those high emotional highs that were lacking here. But fool me once and all that.
I've got to say as well, Moana 1 is probably up there as my most rewatched movie due to it being one of my nephew's favourite. Unlike the majority of films he wants to endlessly play on repeat, I'm always glad to watch Moana again, and it never fails to have an emotional impact on me all these times later. I'm too old to have grown up with this movie, but it's always spoken to me even as an adult, and I think that's a sign of truly timeless movie. And however much I can criticise this sequel, all of that kind of falls away when I consider how lucky I am to have been able to take my nephew to see it, to be able to share this interest with him, and watch his face light up in the movie theatre.
I will not be seeing this movie but i love seeing auli'i's media tour of this and the Disney pr training (get that bag lol) before taking off the wig and playing sally bowles by night 😂
Overall, these ideas could’ve made a good movie and this was close to being “the sequel isn’t as good as the original” but still ok, but ended up as: What if Wish, but Moana, and worse? Its biggest fault is that they didn’t rework the storytelling. My guess is the series would’ve had a lot more “downtime” to get to know the characters, but movies are paced differently and there isn’t time for that, and there wasn’t time to rework the scenes to add that in other ways, so all we get are the necessary plot points without anything to properly build to them. We also get things like reminders of Maui’s situation, which are necessary in a series but are just speed bumps in a movie. Or all the “remember that joke from the movie?” references which, one per episode, is fun, but here it adds up to, “Wouldn’t you rather be watching the first one?” In the end, I understand all the choices that lead to this, I just wish the people working on it had the chance to do the story justice. But I’m an adult, and the kids liked it well enough, so 🤷
There IS reasons given for the other two but they're pretty lame. Fanfic Guy is big and strong and can move stuff with ease and Farmer Guy is there because it's a long journey and they'll need food prep (which. I guess ties into being a farmer? Maybe?) It's super rushed and contrived and the only reason given for it when Moana is even shown IN THIS MOVIE to be capable of wayfinding alone "Journey long, bud" but there was A reason. Not so much of a reason given as to why all three of them remain so flat Also love your kid being old enough to request hate watches lol
I have Moana on DVD. My kids thought it was too long. Their favorite character was the pig, which you only saw in the first 15 min of the movie, and then the main pet sidekick was the rooster. Then it dragged on for them. We’re not seeing this movie.
I honestly don't have any interest in seeing it, and that was true long before I had concerns about the creative choices. I saw it on Broadway, and I don't expect to get much out of seeing the film version. I said in my main channel video, I don't see the point in adapting spectacle musicals in specific to movie format.
I really enjoyed the farmer, and I liked Engineer Girl, though she should be more fleshed out. FanBoy had no purpose. I wasn't bad... but it wasn't good. Some cute moments, not worth a re-watch. I wish it was a show, the new characters could have been better rounded and I could just rewatch the bits I enjoyed.
Given things like Red One, I think you're on the money with your theory about studios finally realizing produced-for-streaming is a profit sinkhole and trying to reconfigure mid-stream.
This was supposed be a tv show but they did cancel it because they lost so much money on bad movies and tv shows. So they need a hit so they just stitched the three episodes they had into a movie
Yeah its not terrible but it's not good. Although there's a few great character moments imo. I don't love the first one but I can see how its better in basically every way and agree that it is. Although Moana 2's overwhelming popularity, combined with wicked being insanely popular as well, plus rainy weather meant for a weekend that was very busy and not fun for me and my staff at the cinemas. I'm glad I watched this before I worked it. Otherwise, I think I'd absolutely despise the film.
SPOILERS There was a mid credit scene with the bat lady, the villain in his "human" form and Tamatoa. I wasnt crazy about most of the movie but I thought the third act was more interesting and I kinda liked the mid credit scene cause I thought the villain design looked pretty cool. A bit like a dark Maui so to speak. So as much as I hate to say I think they should do a third one to close the story of the villain and the bat lady. But please let it be the last one, dont go Kung Fu Panda 4 here (although KFP 4 and Moana 2 are already sort of the same quality, maybe even KFP 4 is a bit better in terms of spectacle).
I mean my instinct from hearing about the three extra characters is that they're there because it was originally conceived as a TV show. You've done videos on streaming being difficulty to make a profit on. You've done videos on trying to replicate Dropout and Nebula and crashing and burning in the process. Have you done a video on the fairly unique circumstances that allowed Dropout to be as successful as it has been? (Genuine question, you might have explained that in 'why people trying to replicate Dropout keep failing' video and I'm blanking on you doing so)
You do intentional hate watches in the cinema? I mean, I occassionally do it with series, but cinema is kinda to expensive for me for that ^^; (The closest I get is when I am in a Sneak Preview and refuse to leave) In general the movie is apparently a cut down 8-part series.
This movie was a disappointment. I think this could have been good if they made the “Get Lost” woman was the villain. If they made the picture guy be a love interest for Moana. If Moana picked a young farmer instead of an old farmer.
Yet another sequel slop breaking box office records. For all the 'go woke,go broke' video on this site, the reality is Disney has near total monopoly of kids entertainment
(Wipes away a tear)
They grow up so fast. One day they're watching and loving anything on screen just because it moves, and then suddenly, they're deliberately seeking out media just so they can hate it. This kiddo is gonna hit the Internet running.
Hulk hogan and steven seagal movies, eh eh. and the bad movie review collection, good media of weird questionable quality out there.
She is grown up , true
This happens when you write a tv show and then cram it into a movie.
For bat lady, Matangi, she does appear in a mid credits scene which also is pointless but has Tamatoa and is attempting to setup a third film or rather a second season if they kept it a series.
It was announced as a tv series, actually, and the side characters were meant to get developed, and then they wanted it to be stitched together for a movie.
Yep, and disney really should be able to make a streaming service, with the disney vault.
I love how your kiddo wanted to hate watch this 😂 also love that you saw this with them instead of seeing Wicked. That's love ❤
Engagement for the engagement god!
"My kid's first hate watch in a theater."
Ah, they grow up so fast, don't they? LOL
I love the original Moana. It's my favourite Disney film for good reason: Moana's character journey is so personally significant to me. As a trans person, the disapproval from her family members giving way to her own self-doubt always really resonated with me, as did the core theme of identity and actualising oneself as who one truly is despite overwhelming pushback. Little moments that tapped into this like her looking through the crowd at her grandmother in the distance during Where we are, or "I'll be satisfied if I play along" from How far Ill go really elevated the film for me, and makes the self-acceptance and actualization of I am Moana so much more potent, "the call isn't out there at all it's inside me". I was looking for even a bit of that emotional and thematic depth in this film, and I was seriously left wanting. The only times I found myself really feeling something for Moana was during the scenes depicting her family finally accepting and celebrating her as a wayfinder, and at the end when she SPOILER ALERT effectively died but was saved by her spiritual connection to her poeple. Other than that, I found the movie to be pretty lacking, and overall, far shallower than I was hoping for. I'm somewhat optimistic about the sequel due it being the third part of a trilogy, as I expect it to have those high emotional highs that were lacking here. But fool me once and all that.
I've got to say as well, Moana 1 is probably up there as my most rewatched movie due to it being one of my nephew's favourite. Unlike the majority of films he wants to endlessly play on repeat, I'm always glad to watch Moana again, and it never fails to have an emotional impact on me all these times later. I'm too old to have grown up with this movie, but it's always spoken to me even as an adult, and I think that's a sign of truly timeless movie. And however much I can criticise this sequel, all of that kind of falls away when I consider how lucky I am to have been able to take my nephew to see it, to be able to share this interest with him, and watch his face light up in the movie theatre.
My seven years old nephew was bored by this film and wanted to go home after 30 minutes.
I will not be seeing this movie but i love seeing auli'i's media tour of this and the Disney pr training (get that bag lol) before taking off the wig and playing sally bowles by night 😂
Overall, these ideas could’ve made a good movie and this was close to being “the sequel isn’t as good as the original” but still ok, but ended up as: What if Wish, but Moana, and worse?
Its biggest fault is that they didn’t rework the storytelling. My guess is the series would’ve had a lot more “downtime” to get to know the characters, but movies are paced differently and there isn’t time for that, and there wasn’t time to rework the scenes to add that in other ways, so all we get are the necessary plot points without anything to properly build to them. We also get things like reminders of Maui’s situation, which are necessary in a series but are just speed bumps in a movie. Or all the “remember that joke from the movie?” references which, one per episode, is fun, but here it adds up to, “Wouldn’t you rather be watching the first one?”
In the end, I understand all the choices that lead to this, I just wish the people working on it had the chance to do the story justice.
But I’m an adult, and the kids liked it well enough, so 🤷
There IS reasons given for the other two but they're pretty lame. Fanfic Guy is big and strong and can move stuff with ease and Farmer Guy is there because it's a long journey and they'll need food prep (which. I guess ties into being a farmer? Maybe?)
It's super rushed and contrived and the only reason given for it when Moana is even shown IN THIS MOVIE to be capable of wayfinding alone "Journey long, bud" but there was A reason. Not so much of a reason given as to why all three of them remain so flat
Also love your kid being old enough to request hate watches lol
I have Moana on DVD. My kids thought it was too long. Their favorite character was the pig, which you only saw in the first 15 min of the movie, and then the main pet sidekick was the rooster. Then it dragged on for them. We’re not seeing this movie.
I love Moana
They do an end credit scene with the bat lady character she gets out and meets with the big bad
I loved Moana 1.
I’ve also heard that it might have gone to cinemas because the strike meant they had gaps and needed something to put out in theatres
You know something is bad when the review contains the words "I'm sure they're perfectly nice people..."
Where is the Wicked review
They're too afraid too admit they were dead wrong ( I it's really the case just pushing to get the review out faster)
I honestly don't have any interest in seeing it, and that was true long before I had concerns about the creative choices. I saw it on Broadway, and I don't expect to get much out of seeing the film version. I said in my main channel video, I don't see the point in adapting spectacle musicals in specific to movie format.
Your kid has great critical thinking skills already haha
I really enjoyed the farmer, and I liked Engineer Girl, though she should be more fleshed out. FanBoy had no purpose.
I wasn't bad... but it wasn't good. Some cute moments, not worth a re-watch.
I wish it was a show, the new characters could have been better rounded and I could just rewatch the bits I enjoyed.
I would’ve loved more context for the side characters
I'm pretty good with character names and couldn't tell you without looking them up.
What can I say except, it's Mo' Ana.
Given things like Red One, I think you're on the money with your theory about studios finally realizing produced-for-streaming is a profit sinkhole and trying to reconfigure mid-stream.
Of *all* the things for Disney to bring back, repurposed unaired TV shows really didn't need to be one of them.
This was supposed be a tv show but they did cancel it because they lost so much money on bad movies and tv shows. So they need a hit so they just stitched the three episodes they had into a movie
Yeah its not terrible but it's not good. Although there's a few great character moments imo.
I don't love the first one but I can see how its better in basically every way and agree that it is.
Although Moana 2's overwhelming popularity, combined with wicked being insanely popular as well, plus rainy weather meant for a weekend that was very busy and not fun for me and my staff at the cinemas.
I'm glad I watched this before I worked it. Otherwise, I think I'd absolutely despise the film.
SPOILERS There was a mid credit scene with the bat lady, the villain in his "human" form and Tamatoa. I wasnt crazy about most of the movie but I thought the third act was more interesting and I kinda liked the mid credit scene cause I thought the villain design looked pretty cool. A bit like a dark Maui so to speak. So as much as I hate to say I think they should do a third one to close the story of the villain and the bat lady. But please let it be the last one, dont go Kung Fu Panda 4 here (although KFP 4 and Moana 2 are already sort of the same quality, maybe even KFP 4 is a bit better in terms of spectacle).
my issue with it is she doesnt need the new people along with her, and to many songs for my taste but it was ok
I mean my instinct from hearing about the three extra characters is that they're there because it was originally conceived as a TV show.
You've done videos on streaming being difficulty to make a profit on. You've done videos on trying to replicate Dropout and Nebula and crashing and burning in the process. Have you done a video on the fairly unique circumstances that allowed Dropout to be as successful as it has been? (Genuine question, you might have explained that in 'why people trying to replicate Dropout keep failing' video and I'm blanking on you doing so)
I can not understand hate watching anything...
You do intentional hate watches in the cinema?
I mean, I occassionally do it with series, but cinema is kinda to expensive for me for that ^^;
(The closest I get is when I am in a Sneak Preview and refuse to leave)
In general the movie is apparently a cut down 8-part series.
Generally no I don't. And I wouldn't have if it weren't for my kiddo.
I didn’t like that one scene seemed to be ripped off from Thor Ragnorak
This movie was a disappointment. I think this could have been good if they made the “Get Lost” woman was the villain. If they made the picture guy be a love interest for Moana. If Moana picked a young farmer instead of an old farmer.
I kinda saw the first one, but I have no interest in seeing the second one.
Yet another sequel slop breaking box office records.
For all the 'go woke,go broke' video on this site, the reality is Disney has near total monopoly of kids entertainment
I've heard a few reviewers like it I'll wait for I've seen it to form my own opinion of it