When my kids were kids, we used to drive sometimes for a couple of hours to go see what I called "art that pisses me off." By that time I had moved just beyond the stage where some art would piss me off, to the stage where I was interested in being aware of being pissed off by the art. It's only material, it's only paint on canvas, or maybe elephant dung on canvas, it's just stuff on a wall - where was this intense emotional reaction coming from? So I would go out of my way and make a point of seeing art that would piss me off, and I would talk to other people about how they felt about art, and I explored those feelings. One day I drove to Pittsburgh to show a friend some paintings by Jackson Pollock. I was surprised to learn that there was a school, so to speak, a genre, a history of that sort of paining that he worked in. I was also pissed off by other works in the same museum, and then I saw across the room, a blue board leaning against the wall, with a little explanatory sign by it. 'Oh, my... you gotta be kiddin' me," I thought, getting pissed off. But I'm a sucker for those little signs. In museums, galleries, arboretums, historical locations, I love those signs. So I walked over and read abut the blue board and the artist and how the artist's medium was the finish itself. It said the artist didn't care so much about the board or whatever the shape and material was, so much as the finish on the item. I looked closely at the finish on the board, and thought to myself, "That is a damn fine finish!" I enjoyed very much my inner journey in those years, trying to understand what it was inside myself that was stimulated into such pissed off reactions to colors and shapes and materials in the context of the galleries and museum settings. I learned something about art, but learned more about myself. Now I enjoy art a lot more than I used to. I have expanded the universe of my delights. Now I still see a lot of "art that challenges me," but I much more rarely see art that pisses me off.
Came to the comments for the same thing- can someone be that young with that many phd’s? This person must be a literal demon and I’m gonna pause this video to make sure that was a joke before proceeding 😂
but why do they make uncles mad? sounds like a totally respectable form of art that could be appreciated way easier than some pretentious contemporary art
I am an Art Historian and even I get mad sometimes. To be clear here, I am not saying, that installations are not art or that they need any kind of permission to exist (I'm saying this because I feel like my mad uncle would say something like "I COULD DO THIS!" -- yes, he could, which would make him an arist, btw), but intallations strike some chord, and not always in a good way, I don't know :D
I love how installations are the art of experiential visitors looking for a wow factor. An art disneyland for collectors of experience and places. Like hipsters travelling to weird places. Havent seen meaningfull installation since art povera. The rest seems like egomaniac impressive post blabla.
Lol, it seems indeed you need at least one PhD in order not to confuse installation with environmental art. Christo and Jeanne-Claude, just as you said, define their work as such. And if we follow your suggested definition of installation, we'll notice that their artworks are not just interrelation of various pieces or elements. It is first of all the relation with the environment. While their earlier artworks, as well as Ai's seeds, or Eliasson's weather project can be placed in another museum or gallery without losing the main idea, wrapped Reichstag building is too site-specific and to call it installation feels like generalization.
You're absolutely right, and thanks for making the distinction! And I hope we have a later Art 101 about Environmental Art where we can talk more about it. In this context, I was hoping to show that a work by Christo would be more in the land of installation than of sculpture.
I mean, I get your point about there being a distinction between installation and environmental art, but your comment also comes across as a little "grumpy grandpa"/condescending. I mean, I think there is less distinct boundaries between the two than what you convey vis-a-vis site-specificity. Like, installation w/o site-specifity seems like just another form of "plop art". Ie an object "that can be placed in another museum or gallery without losing the main idea". I mean, that holds true, but I also do think the specific form within which the artwork takes can also be a main idea. I think of Sheila Pepe's work, where, yes technically the elements do get shipped and reinstalled and the overall impression/idea might seem the same, but she also sets up shop in the gallery and constructs things in a responsive way to the space. I feel like I need to crack open my Miwon Kwon book again and think about this s'more. Site responsiveness vs. site specificity...
what how is that even possible to have that many degrees?? extra wealth? very productive with time? wow impressive..if ever wanted to achieve more, i got loads of business ideas if ever wanted a business partner to inspire you..i put them on many videos on my youtube channel if like..
193 phds at an average of 3 years per phd , assuming you do 2 phds at a time (which would be insane) equals to a total amount of almost 300 years Btw, i know , she’s just joking
Installations make people mad? They are the funniest things! Artists pretend they created something meaningful and visitors pretend they understand... LOL
Let me translate I have 193 PHDs for everyone. That actually means, I have no PHDs LOL. Yeah she totally endured the level of studying a Doctor has to do 193 different times all before the age of like 27. Totally honey. Totally. You totally have one hundred and ninety three PHDs XDI go to a liberal arts college, and there is no breed of human more delusional than an arts major lol
I love the intimacy of installations as opposed to just a canvas or sculpture
I love that the comments are full of those uncles
When my kids were kids, we used to drive sometimes for a couple of hours to go see what I called "art that pisses me off." By that time I had moved just beyond the stage where some art would piss me off, to the stage where I was interested in being aware of being pissed off by the art. It's only material, it's only paint on canvas, or maybe elephant dung on canvas, it's just stuff on a wall - where was this intense emotional reaction coming from? So I would go out of my way and make a point of seeing art that would piss me off, and I would talk to other people about how they felt about art, and I explored those feelings. One day I drove to Pittsburgh to show a friend some paintings by Jackson Pollock. I was surprised to learn that there was a school, so to speak, a genre, a history of that sort of paining that he worked in. I was also pissed off by other works in the same museum, and then I saw across the room, a blue board leaning against the wall, with a little explanatory sign by it. 'Oh, my... you gotta be kiddin' me," I thought, getting pissed off. But I'm a sucker for those little signs. In museums, galleries, arboretums, historical locations, I love those signs. So I walked over and read abut the blue board and the artist and how the artist's medium was the finish itself. It said the artist didn't care so much about the board or whatever the shape and material was, so much as the finish on the item. I looked closely at the finish on the board, and thought to myself, "That is a damn fine finish!" I enjoyed very much my inner journey in those years, trying to understand what it was inside myself that was stimulated into such pissed off reactions to colors and shapes and materials in the context of the galleries and museum settings. I learned something about art, but learned more about myself. Now I enjoy art a lot more than I used to. I have expanded the universe of my delights. Now I still see a lot of "art that challenges me," but I much more rarely see art that pisses me off.
I was delighted to read about your curiosity in your reactions and your growing trajectory
This show never ceases to amaze me. And, Lise rocks...long live the arts!
Still don't get why it should make anyone mad
194 phd s?? And almost one BA? Am I the only one who is confused ? When did you had the time to do all that ???
@@JinsKookieJams She was just joking. :)
oh man the whole time I was thinking the same...even tho i thought she was joking i was like...what if shes not lying...
Came to the comments for the same thing- can someone be that young with that many phd’s? This person must be a literal demon and I’m gonna pause this video to make sure that was a joke before proceeding 😂
I dropped a bunch of plastic bottles in a box, and it was a wonderful installation.
-Modern Art student
but why do they make uncles mad? sounds like a totally respectable form of art that could be appreciated way easier than some pretentious contemporary art
It is! My uncle is just very bored. And mean.
I can almost understand the anger, but at the same time it's amazing and an experience
I am an Art Historian and even I get mad sometimes. To be clear here, I am not saying, that installations are not art or that they need any kind of permission to exist (I'm saying this because I feel like my mad uncle would say something like "I COULD DO THIS!" -- yes, he could, which would make him an arist, btw), but intallations strike some chord, and not always in a good way, I don't know :D
What a wonderful explanation !
All of this to annoy an uncle 😂
Lookin' Good.
I love how installations are the art of experiential visitors looking for a wow factor. An art disneyland for collectors of experience and places. Like hipsters travelling to weird places. Havent seen meaningfull installation since art povera. The rest seems like egomaniac impressive post blabla.
Ditch the uncle and enjoy the art.
leave the uncle alone!
Okay!
So, rides in theme parks (such as It's a Small World in Disneyland) are installation art?
No, but literally only because it is not in a gallery, and/or because Disney is not calling it Fine Art.
Lol, it seems indeed you need at least one PhD in order not to confuse installation with environmental art. Christo and Jeanne-Claude, just as you said, define their work as such. And if we follow your suggested definition of installation, we'll notice that their artworks are not just interrelation of various pieces or elements. It is first of all the relation with the environment. While their earlier artworks, as well as Ai's seeds, or Eliasson's weather project can be placed in another museum or gallery without losing the main idea, wrapped Reichstag building is too site-specific and to call it installation feels like generalization.
You're absolutely right, and thanks for making the distinction! And I hope we have a later Art 101 about Environmental Art where we can talk more about it. In this context, I was hoping to show that a work by Christo would be more in the land of installation than of sculpture.
I mean, I get your point about there being a distinction between installation and environmental art, but your comment also comes across as a little "grumpy grandpa"/condescending. I mean, I think there is less distinct boundaries between the two than what you convey vis-a-vis site-specificity. Like, installation w/o site-specifity seems like just another form of "plop art". Ie an object "that can be placed in another museum or gallery without losing the main idea". I mean, that holds true, but I also do think the specific form within which the artwork takes can also be a main idea. I think of Sheila Pepe's work, where, yes technically the elements do get shipped and reinstalled and the overall impression/idea might seem the same, but she also sets up shop in the gallery and constructs things in a responsive way to the space. I feel like I need to crack open my Miwon Kwon book again and think about this s'more. Site responsiveness vs. site specificity...
what how is that even possible to have that many degrees?? extra wealth? very productive with time? wow impressive..if ever wanted to achieve more, i got loads of business ideas if ever wanted a business partner to inspire you..i put them on many videos on my youtube channel if like..
193 phds at an average of 3 years per phd , assuming you do 2 phds at a time (which would be insane) equals to a total amount of almost 300 years
Btw, i know , she’s just joking
good video, annoying music...it is kind of installation - evry part counts...tnx
Sooooo this is a video designed to insure your Uncle never goes to one of these things again?
Depends on the uncle?
Why is it that you can’t talk about installation art without mentioning “the weather project”
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Why do they gotta be so fucking arty about it tho?
what's with this bitch and uncles? I relate
Its an interesting video, but it doesnt answer the question at all
Is the random list of numbers of degrees at the start of these videos suppose to be funny or something?
Yes. Mostly funny. Or something.
@@lisehosein1289 LOL!
Installations make people mad? They are the funniest things! Artists pretend they created something meaningful and visitors pretend they understand... LOL
And yet I sense anger beneath your laughter...
Who cares?
That's what my uncle said.
Psychologists probably
Stop trying to rationalize and label, just f’ng enjoy it or move on.
Arts are like farts...Most are over rated
What kinda farts do you experience in your day-to-day? A day without art is like a day without farts - disappointing!
Let me translate I have 193 PHDs for everyone. That actually means, I have no PHDs LOL. Yeah she totally endured the level of studying a Doctor has to do 193 different times all before the age of like 27. Totally honey. Totally. You totally have one hundred and ninety three PHDs XDI go to a liberal arts college, and there is no breed of human more delusional than an arts major lol
all of the phds are in gender studies
It's a joke you moron