How to Build An In-Ear Monitoring System - WITH a Presonus Studiolive 32r (NOT a Behringer X32)

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    I went up to #sweetwater and picked up our new In-Ear Monitoring System using the PRESONUS STUIO LIVE 32R and want to show you How to Build An In-Ear Monitoring System.
    Everybody uses the Behringer x32 but I decided to try something different.
    Check it out
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    👉 LIVE RACK GEAR:
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    Sennheiser EW-500 G4-Neumann KK205 sweetwater.sjv.io/3edDgK
    Sennheiser XSW IEM Wireless In-Ear Monitor System sweetwater.sjv.io/R56v79
    Shure PSM300 Wireless System sweetwater.sjv.io/da71YM
    RF Venue Combine 4 Antenna Combiner sweetwater.sjv.io/MmN67J
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    Presonus Studiolive 32r sweetwater.sjv.io/6egrmK
    Tascam US-1608 Interface sweetwater.sjv.io/21WxZz
    Sennheiser EW-500 G4-Neumann KK205 sweetwater.sjv.io/3edDgK
    Sennheiser XSW IEM Wireless In-Ear Monitor System sweetwater.sjv.io/R56v79
    Shure PSM300 Wireless System sweetwater.sjv.io/da71YM
    RF Venue Combine 4 Antenna Combiner sweetwater.sjv.io/MmN67J
    Pearl Mimic Pro Drum Module sweetwater.sjv.io/m52WYe
    Westone Audio Pro X20 Earphones sweetwater.sjv.io/LXZb7j
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 108

  • @SOLDbyYOU
    @SOLDbyYOU 2 місяці тому +4

    Four minutes in to the 10 minute video and we STILL haven’t gotten anything but a goddam commercial for sweetwater

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  2 місяці тому

      You need to chill out. haha geeeeze. Enjoy the ride.

    • @SOLDbyYOU
      @SOLDbyYOU 2 місяці тому +2

      @@TheSteveKinney thx but I don’t have time for videos that don’t deliver

  • @pamelak.4794
    @pamelak.4794 2 роки тому +2

    O M G What an amazing trip that must’ve been for you & Kat! Sweetwater ; Whaaaaat? I am surprised you didn’t set up a tent right there in the lobby! I know without a doubt, you were in your Glory !
    Congrats on another super informative video. Also, the picture/video quality is amazing!

  • @RussellBobel
    @RussellBobel Рік тому +3

    Looks like I got my travel planned for next year!
    Awesome vid, appreciate the info. I've always wanted to stop by sweetwater HQ.

  • @TheSteveKinney
    @TheSteveKinney  2 роки тому +7

    MAN THIS RIG IS KILLER- I can't wait to share more on it.

    • @katrina_burgoyne
      @katrina_burgoyne 2 роки тому +2

      Well done Steve!

    • @christianbaxter_yt
      @christianbaxter_yt Рік тому +2

      Look forward to hearing about why you chose personus vs x32, been a fan since first SL series because of capture and I love the simplicity of their interface vs x32.

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  Рік тому

      @@christianbaxter_yt ya - I’ve been really trying to wrap my brain around capture. Love it. Works awesome!

  • @katrina_burgoyne
    @katrina_burgoyne 2 роки тому +3

    I love the Microphone you picked... WOW!

    • @barnpostmedia
      @barnpostmedia 2 роки тому

      It's hard to go wrong with Neumann.

  • @cpt.kimintuitiondemon
    @cpt.kimintuitiondemon Рік тому +1

    Very interested to hear all about the presonus for this purpose!

  • @kaleboverby426
    @kaleboverby426 11 місяців тому +2

    I built an almost identical rig to this! Thanks for the guide! The band, the sound guys love everything! I decided to go with a Roland TD-27 but I use it with Superior Drummer 3 through Ableton

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  11 місяців тому +2

      SD3 sounds like life. great stuff! cheers!

  • @timdaniel7745
    @timdaniel7745 2 роки тому +3

    Hey brotha….this is just great I’ve been lookin for a UA-cam video about this for a band I work with and it’s really hard to find a good, clearly explained video and I am glad to finally see this video great job hope to see more amazin videos from you cheers brotha…..✌️

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks dude!
      Anything specific you couldn’t find on the live rigs?
      I’m still working on someone of my follow ups.

    • @timdaniel7745
      @timdaniel7745 2 роки тому +2

      Well nothing specific…well I wanted to do know about the multitrack recording of a live performance and the live mix with the digital PC well I have seen people use it but never known how to do it well, it will be pretty Good to see a multitrack live recording….🤔

  • @aplica6006
    @aplica6006 Рік тому +1

    Wonderful! Cheer from Sweden! =)

  • @jmac6832
    @jmac6832 Рік тому +3

    As a professional rack builder and past experience with Seismic Audio, I hope that you have better luck than everyone else has. I would have gone with a CBI Ear Splitter. Better build quality at a good price and never had an issue with them.

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  Рік тому +1

      I'm going to have to take some time to look into them, thanks for sharing mate!

  • @scottproaudio
    @scottproaudio Місяць тому +1

    Great video Steve! Best wishes to you Kat and Poppy.

  • @mickellyrodrigues2191
    @mickellyrodrigues2191 10 місяців тому +1

    Finally..... this is such a bloody good mixer so much better then the behringer

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  10 місяців тому

      It’s great! Behringers got its perks, but this one has more for sure!

  • @barnpostmedia
    @barnpostmedia 2 роки тому +1

    I just told a few of the guys at Sweetwater that I am planning a trip to visit the greatest music retailer in the world. I can't believe you two beat me to it.

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  2 роки тому

      Dude. Da fuq.
      If you going. I want in haha
      My brotha Daniel is there! And it’s a great time!

    • @barnpostmedia
      @barnpostmedia 2 роки тому +1

      I will let you know when I am headed up there. You are more than welcome to come along. We can take over Fort Wayne 😈

  • @MariusDanielsen
    @MariusDanielsen 10 місяців тому +1

    Could you do a video on how to do a good monitor mix? With effects and EQ, compressor etc. I own the same Presonus 32R, but I haven´t been able to start really mixing the monitor mix other than panning and volume.

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  10 місяців тому

      hmmm... that's a tricky one because it's so subjective..
      I could probably do a general breakdown on routing etc. there IS a special technique for monitoring vocals for each singer that is not commonly known.. has to do with what essentially amounts to phase cancelation from your small inner ear bones vibrating while singing.
      I've got a lot of random videos to follow up with... TON of work haha. If you'd wanna fast track something like this, I'd be happy to do a 1:1 session an answer specific questions, and even screen share the mixer software to show you what I've done etc.

  • @simpleObserver100
    @simpleObserver100 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the vid. I am researching IEM rigs.and am thinking about the studio live 32r. Waiting for the vid that you havent made yet video explaing why you chose it...

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  9 місяців тому +1

      That video is plaguing me. Haha
      I never at all intended to take so long to follow up, but client work, major releases etc - I’ve been pretty side tracked.
      It’s actually on my list of things to film this week.

    • @simpleObserver100
      @simpleObserver100 9 місяців тому

      @TheSteveKinney no worries, man! I'm looking forward to it!

  • @maxaguilar6523
    @maxaguilar6523 Місяць тому +1

    Question…for the multi tracks you can use the same mixer to send it? Why the reason to use a separate interface?..the rack looks amazing pretty sure you cover any place you play!

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  Місяць тому

      I chose to use a separate interface as a redundancy.
      I could have easily used the USB functionality of the mixer itself for sure.
      But I also plan on recording every show, and I just didn’t want it doing too much.
      We have a tracks computer that triggers everything from ableton.
      And then we have the computer that controls the mixer & records into presonus capture.

  • @jwillydrums9982
    @jwillydrums9982 Рік тому +8

    For my band we usually play at festivals and this would benefit for sure but, would it be to stressful to ask engineers there at those festivals to redo their stuff when they have other bands going on and off? That is the only thing I'm questioning because of course they would have to unplug the things they had.

    • @MegaUltimateHD
      @MegaUltimateHD 11 місяців тому +1

      The best way to go about it would be to be as self contained as possible. For example: we run our own stage boxes and looms, We run our own vocal mics and we have a 24ch xlr snake with every channel clearly labelled on their end of the snake

    • @spoonracer1111
      @spoonracer1111 6 місяців тому +2

      Not stressful to engineers at all with a splitter snake, with a splitter snake your completely self contained and all they have to worry about is the foh mix

  • @daniellarkin9945
    @daniellarkin9945 Рік тому +1

    I enjoyed this video and planning on a similar build and I wanted to know what's that "thing" with the bristles just below the 24R? I assume it's to keep the dust out???

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  Рік тому +1

      32r 🥸 ha but who’s counting channels. and ya - it’s just a 1U rack passthrough.
      A lot of peoples rigs are just gross as shit with their pass throughs just being a mess and rather than having an odd empty spot in the rack or a weird panel with a hole drilled out, I opted for this.
      Keeps it clean, and helps with the dust but allows access if I need it.
      Cannot stress enough how important smart cable management is. It’s worth spending a few days on it.
      I’ve still gotta make my follow up video on why I prefer the presonus over beringer.

    • @daniellarkin9945
      @daniellarkin9945 Рік тому +1

      @@TheSteveKinney I'm really looking forward to that one! I just got my case and buying the 24R today! Thanks Steve!

  • @brett-westgrove-country-music
    @brett-westgrove-country-music 10 місяців тому +1

    Awesome rig! Love nerding out on these setups - so many variations.
    One thing I notice and question: why are so many people running a digital mixer AND an audio interface, when the mixer should work as both (I’m assuming your mixer has the same basics abilities as a Behringer x32r)? I know you already owned yours, but it’s seemingly extraneous…
    For example: my X32r runs 18-20 stage inputs from my split, and another 6-8 channels of click/cues/tracks via usb straight from Ableton into the X32 (so it feeds internally, no extra patch cables needed) and on to iems and externally to FOH - so it doesn’t use up any extra hardware inputs on the X32 for tracks, and those sources never touch the splitter (plus it can record 32 channels of raw audio multitracked to SD card - which is not super relevant, but still with no extra interface - which I think just goes to show that the horsepower, capabilities, and flexibility these devices have is not well known
    Anyway, for the sake of weight, space, maximizing the number of available inputs, and quite a few fewer cables I’d say definitely look into the Presonus’s abilities! I’d be very surprised if it wasn’t capable of all of that (aside from the SD card multitracking, which requires an expansion card on the behringer)! 🤘🏻
    PS: Still liking that shock case? Been thinking of switching to something similar - wondered how it hold up! Anyway, Thanks again for sharing

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks mate!
      As a matter of fact - the interface is kind of on the redundant side cause you’re right - this mixer can get direct feeds from a session.
      But truthfully, I like the idea of redundancy. Sometimes software is stupid.
      So I have two laptops if I need it. One to control the presonus and / or record the show. Don’t want it doing anything else.
      And then the other sends audio via interface.
      Additionally, the one that’s recording is mainly a convenience and not always used.
      Side note - the road case is awesome. Holding up nicely. If I could tell the manufacturer- I’d say, make the handle out of something else, it’s strong but makes me nervous for years of use. But at the same time. It’s only ever used for seconds at a time. Haha 😆 I just know how this stuff gets abused.

    • @brett-westgrove-country-music
      @brett-westgrove-country-music 10 місяців тому +1

      @@TheSteveKinney nice, that’s very fair! I have redundancy in the form of two computers, but they both do the same things (one is just a backup in case the other fails) - different approach. Also, tbf, I did have to upgrade to a more powerful MBP this year but that’s mainly because the one computer also does ProPresenter video and lighting. It’s a lot but the M1 Pro is a beast!
      I have a generation older SKB 8U (power conditioner, split + aux XLR panel, x32r, router, USB hubs and video output, DMX device, and sennheiser wireless mic) and a SKB 4U stacked on top (drawer (packs, battery charge station, iems), iem receivers) but they are not shock mount =\ Plastic roto cases take up some shock but not like yours does!! But the handles are molded in to the rack(in fact, they are large and hollow and even helped with cable routing!) - they are beefy! Can’t believe they went with the handle style you’re complaining about… I went to the link you posted to look and I could definitely see those breaking with heavy use. Too bad - go back SKB!!

    • @brett-westgrove-country-music
      @brett-westgrove-country-music 10 місяців тому +1

      @@TheSteveKinney PS, just noticed you’re in Nashville. Let’s grab a coffee and chat!

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  10 місяців тому

      @@brett-westgrove-country-music hit me up on Instagram. @thestevekinney

  • @danlosd
    @danlosd 3 місяці тому +1

    Those seismic splitters are hardwired transformerless inputs wich means if you are using phatom power that voltage goes directly to the other mixer. Are you using condenser mics? And have you had a problem with voltage leaking to the other console? I know this can fry the input of a mixer

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  3 місяці тому

      I don’t use phantom with it.
      For that very reason.

  • @XIIMonkeysMusicGroup
    @XIIMonkeysMusicGroup Рік тому +2

    Sounds like a Sweetwater ad!

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  Рік тому

      🤷‍♂️ sweetwater is awesome.
      But. I actually bought all the gear in the video 😂 so. Nope. Didn’t make the video or sweetwater or presonus.
      Genuinely made this for all.

  • @mooses21
    @mooses21 Рік тому +1

    This video is about building a live rig with a split for IEMs. Your solution for IEMs was to use the wireless IEMs you already had.

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  Рік тому

      I had 1 wireless unit already.
      The rest had to be picked up.
      And this entire unit is truly for IEM. The split is what’s used to go to FOH.
      The mixer is whats used to build the IEM mixes for each person..

  • @jodiminopoulos5206
    @jodiminopoulos5206 Рік тому +1

    Hi Steve, 1st off my husband and I love your rig. So much so that we replicated almost exactly, we needed 7 IEM so it little bit more full. We haven't used it in jamming session yet because we literally just finished plugging it in and testing it out. 2nd we are hearing a lot of white noise, regardless of where we plug in, straight into the Presonus, straight into the IEM transmitter or into the IEM receiver. Did you have this problem also. Any suggestions on how to fix.

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  Рік тому +1

      Hmmmmm.
      Without being there and following the cabling - it would be hard to totally put my finger on.
      But it’s likely either:
      1. Wireless interference - if you don’t have a paddle antenna - it very well could be that.
      2. It could be that signal levels inside the console are too low and now you’re turning up pack volumes super high to compensate.
      3. Cables - if you are using unbalanced TS vs TRS ... albeit this one is a little more of a stretch, but it’s still a possibility.
      I don’t get darn near any sort of white noise, unless I’m getting wireless interference.
      If you have the XSW’s, Do you know how to search for open channels?

    • @jodiminopoulos5206
      @jodiminopoulos5206 Рік тому +1

      @@TheSteveKinney thanks for the suggestions Steve. Saddly couldn't afford xsw. Went with phenyx pro iem and microphones. Both wireless units have channel frequency adjustments, so maybe just need to play with around a bit more. Early days. We really appreciated your video. Look forward to hearing how you're experience with the presonus is going and any tips and tricks. Cheerio from Australia down under.

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  Рік тому +1

      @@jodiminopoulos5206 oh right on mate!
      Australia, my people! Cheers!
      Ya - I’ve really enjoyed the presonus. I’ll have to find some time to make my video on it. It’s a great unit. Far superior than anything else out there, short of spending “inquire for pricing” money. Ha ha

  • @brianhainey9452
    @brianhainey9452 Рік тому +1

    Hey Steve! Where is the explanation video for why you selected the 32R? I too, chose to use the Presonus 32R as my main mobile mixer. And I'm super interested in hearing why you WISELY chose the 32R over the X32. Can you send me that link where I can watch that video? ??

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  Рік тому

      I still have to finish making it, it sounds crazy - but a bunch of client work kind of took over right after I made this videos and haven’t had a chance to follow up.

    • @brianhainey9452
      @brianhainey9452 Рік тому +1

      @@TheSteveKinney No Worries! Being busy trumps everything:)! Youve got some awesome videos, and you've got people awaiting your next gig vid!!!

  • @sm14de19
    @sm14de19 8 місяців тому +1

    are you able to close the enclosure with everything plugged into the 32r?

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  8 місяців тому

      Yup.
      Tons of clearance on the back, and good clearance on the front. None of the cables that I’m using are getting pressed up against the front cover. It’s close, but they aren’t getting smooshed.
      If I used higher end cables that had L connections, I’d have about 2-3 inches of clearance.

  • @AnthonyWatsonMWArts
    @AnthonyWatsonMWArts 2 місяці тому +1

    Love your rig. I'm going to do something similar now. What antenna did you connect to the RF Venue Conbine 4?

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  2 місяці тому +1

      The system I bought came with the paddle antenna.
      If you go to my website, it should list all of this gear exactly as I got it.
      And also the description should have the links to the exact stuff.

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  2 місяці тому

      If you’re going with seismic audio for the snake split, the only thing I wish I did differently was to get a snake splitter that could handle phantom power.
      Talk to them directly and they can get you the best one.

    • @AnthonyWatsonMWArts
      @AnthonyWatsonMWArts 2 місяці тому +1

      @@TheSteveKinney Thanks for mentioning that. I just assumed (always a bad idea) that the phantom power would "carry forward." Appreciate your help.

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  2 місяці тому +1

      @@AnthonyWatsonMWArts there is ways around it.
      The reason I have the one I do is because i got it on a great deal from a buddy who used it in his rig.
      You can get the triton audio inline phantom power plugins. You put it between the mic and the mic cable. And then bam.
      It’s safe.
      Or you can get a specific one from seismic that is made for this sort of thing.

  • @davebrownentertainment7191
    @davebrownentertainment7191 2 місяці тому

    A year later, how do you feel about your 32r? I had the 24r and 32sc, wasn't super thrilled with them. Have a Midas MR18 (nicer version of the XR18), and love it. Need more channels now, so I'm looking at options.

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  2 місяці тому

      I love the board. I only have 1 problem with it.
      What was your gripe when the presonus boards?

    • @davebrownentertainment7191
      @davebrownentertainment7191 2 місяці тому

      @@TheSteveKinney The AVB networking was unreliable (would sometimes take several reboots before the 2 mixers communicated properly, then they were fine, whish is stressful when you have a recording client on their way over), The user interface was confusing, more complicated than it needed to be. On the MR18, with Mixing Station, everything is so simple, easy to find and navigate to. The MR18/XR18 mixers have more effects (51 I think?). I dunno, I may still end up getting a 32r, for the form factor (32 channels, boom), but not looking forward to setting up monitor mixes. Lol. Oh, and I'll need adapters for the aux outs (1/4 inch, vs XLR on the Midas/Behringer). What was your problem with the 32r?

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  2 місяці тому

      @@davebrownentertainment7191 see, I actually much prefer the user interface on the software.
      And I like that the iPad app is the exact same as the desktop app.
      For me, I had no issues there.
      My only, and truly only gripe is that AVB is essentially a dead protocol.
      Very few devices interface with it. If they through a firmware update to make it Dante it would be damn near perfect.
      I prefer that it has modeled eq and compression across every channel, I prefer the way it can flex route on 16 busses PLUS a main left right output.
      The software has been nothing but reliable for me.
      Granted, I haven’t used the avb to slave to another board, so that may still be a thing.
      But - ultimately, I just felt the Midas and behringer to be a bit limiting for the money.

  • @kenpoels
    @kenpoels 5 місяців тому +1

    Are you still planning on making a video about why you went for the studioiolive 32R and not the berhinger X32?

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  5 місяців тому +1

      1000%..
      I’ve had a ton of life changes over the last few months.
      Moved out of my apartment, live in Australia for 2 months, closing on a house.
      I should be free to make a follow up video in the next month now that I’m moving back in.

    • @kenpoels
      @kenpoels 5 місяців тому +1

      Im looking forward to the video! I wish you the best with everything that is going on in your life! Ty for the response!

  • @mirandazohran
    @mirandazohran 3 місяці тому +1

    Hey Steve, how would you rate the Allen & Heath CQ-20B or the CQ-18T for this very same purpose :)

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  3 місяці тому

      Allen and heath is great stuff.
      I don’t think they are comparable though.
      This is a 32 channel rack mixer with 32 preamps, with 20 physical outputs.
      The Allen and heath has 16 pres and looks like about 10outputs, depending on how the routing in the system works.
      Now. Sure, for that size, the pres and everything is gonna work great, so if that size channel count will work, then it’s gonna do a great job.
      However, the channel count is extremely limiting if you’re trying to do playback tracks, live instruments etc with different stereo IEM mixes for everyone in the band.
      Not saying it wouldn’t work, or that it’s bad. Just that it’s a smaller package.
      If I had the option, I’d be rocking this one.

    • @mirandazohran
      @mirandazohran 3 місяці тому +1

      @@TheSteveKinney Absolutely , you are right , whats your view of soundcraft options? Big amateur right?

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  3 місяці тому

      @@mirandazohran truthfully,
      Most of these live sound mixers sound pretty nice, unless you’re going with the really cheap options.
      No way around the cheap components in the tiny mixers.
      But the bigger mixers are usually decent.

  • @lhenn_
    @lhenn_ Рік тому +1

    Hey,
    we, too, are currently thinking about rebuilding our IEM rig and selling the X32 for a Presonus 32r as we want completely independent inputs (preamp/gain) for FOH and IEM. We would use ch1-16 of the 32r for IEM and 17-32 for FOH. Question: What about phantom power using the Seismic splitter snake? Isn't there the risk of sending phantom power twice to a device or backfeeding an input, that has 48V deactivated?

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  Рік тому

      Yes - this particular split snake is not good for using phantom power.
      The great thing - is that the way I designed the build - nothing here requires phantom power.
      But if so - there are a few tools by triton audio that can fix the problem.
      And also / a different split snake can work great / might be simpler.

    • @brett-westgrove-country-music
      @brett-westgrove-country-music 10 місяців тому +2

      The phantom thing seems pretty overblown and maybe a relic of times before 48v was standardized on the preamp end…?
      Two sources of 48v DC through a y-cable is still 48v DC on the other end. The only difference is the mic could theoretically pull double the amperage (half from each pre) should it need it or is broken (in which case it’s already broken). I’d say most (all) modern pre’s are standardized to 48v and can surely even handle a few volts variation. I’d bet this idea comes from days gone by where some preamps used lower than 48v for phantom and back feeding 48v from the other side of the split would over-volt the circuit…?
      Anyway, I run both Seismic and my hand-built passive splits in everything from clubs (with clueless FOH guys) to massive festivals, and have 3-5 phantom mics on stage - I guarantee they and my x32r have seen “double phantom” on many occasions. Also to note, a lot of fancy, custom-built fly rigs use passive splits, too, and it seems to work great for them as well!
      Anyway, just my take and experience - and maybe can save a budget bad a few bucks, or keep some from being afraid of splitting condensers! Unless your rigs are on two entirely different power systems that could cause noise issues isolation is probably not necessary. It certainly won’t ever hurt but it’s much more expensive and not actually as pure of a split!
      Hope it helps - let me know if I’ve overlooked anything! 🤘🏻🎸

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  10 місяців тому

      @@brett-westgrove-country-music somewhere in the comment section, seismic audio resounded directly to this.
      I’m inclined to agree with you from experience with these snakes.
      But just wanna be fair and safe with recommendation.
      Love the comment, thanks for sharing - super helpful insight!

    • @brett-westgrove-country-music
      @brett-westgrove-country-music 10 місяців тому

      @@TheSteveKinney yeah, definitely don’t want someone kissed at you for follow å recommendation but then doing something they don’t understand and burning the festival down 😂

  • @alannoruspur5315
    @alannoruspur5315 Місяць тому +1

    What did you do with the antenna from the Sennheiser EW-500 (the microphone receiver)? The way I understand it, it's not possible to connect that to a combiner such as the RF Venue Combine 4 which you use with the IEM transmitter. This is confusing me :/

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  Місяць тому +1

      That antenna is certainly different.
      It’s a receiver. The mic itself is a transmitter. Whereas the IEM packs are the receivers.
      The only think I did use was the power supply from the combiner just for simplicity in the rack.
      That particular unit has an AMAZING built in antenna.
      It can scan for open channels super easily; never once ran into any sort of trouble with it yet.
      The iem’s themselves, the xsw’s - they sound great and work awesome with the combiner. Don’t have any issues there.
      I just wish I got a better unit so scanning for open channels was easier… that’s a manual process so if your short on time.. that would be a pain.
      I haven’t run into an issue with not having an open channel, but still, lol manually looking is a bit tedious.
      Hopefully this helps ya out!

    • @alannoruspur5315
      @alannoruspur5315 Місяць тому +1

      @@TheSteveKinney Thanks for the reply!
      That's a bit strange. I could not find any information about an internal antenna in the microphone receiver. According to the manufacturer's website, the Sennheiser EW-100/300/500 Microphone Receiver is a True Diversity system that uses two antennas on the back and should not be connected to a combiner.
      I believe you when you say that it's working for you, however technically speaking, I don't understand how it could work in case you aren't using any of the two small antennas that came with the unit and have the receiver connected to a combiner (which you aren't supposed to do, even just to power it up). Please don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to tell you what you are supposed to do. I just wish it would be possible to build a rack with both IEM transmitters and instrument receivers but the only way that's possible is if you use external antennas which are spaced apart. Otherwise you run the risk of intermodulation and instability of both systems.

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  Місяць тому +1

      @@alannoruspur5315 I’m not sure if I was clear, so I apologize - I’m only connecting the microphones receiver to the combiners power supply rather than using the power brick it came with.
      That’s all. I’m definitely not using the antenna from the combiner because that wouldn’t work.
      I’m using the two built in antennas that attach to the back of the rack unit. And it works flawlessly.
      When setting up, the first thing I do is power everything up and let the mic unit scan for open frequencies.
      Then I move on to the other wireless units.
      Not once have I had issues.
      But yeah / the only thing using the paddle antenna is the wireless in ears. Again, mic is using its built in antennas.

    • @alannoruspur5315
      @alannoruspur5315 Місяць тому +1

      @@TheSteveKinney Oh, I see! That answers all of my questions! Thank you so much for your time and detailed explanation! :)

  • @HarryAdee
    @HarryAdee 3 місяці тому +1

    Most music store in our country won't let you try or even touch any instrument😂. How to know what you would buy?

  • @nicolmicah
    @nicolmicah Рік тому +1

    Steve, you didn't explain why you went with the Presonus

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  Рік тому +1

      I know - I really need to make the follow up video..
      There are some great bits on why but just so you don’t have to wait, to summarize.
      Modeled eq’s and compressors across every channel vs behringers 8 busses
      More flexible routing, and assignable Headohone outputs
      Better pres, easier to understand software
      The iPad app is the same as the desktop app, so you’re not missing features at all
      Smaller device footprint, all I/o is included on the device vs behringer needing the additional device to get the full I/o
      The soundchecking software is sooo great (presonus capture) - vs behringers nothing
      That’s largely the reasons

  • @OfficialDSFN
    @OfficialDSFN Рік тому +1

    Daniel was my guy too! Sadly, he’s not there anymore :/

  • @jcalmade
    @jcalmade 4 місяці тому +1

    Can you fly with this?

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  4 місяці тому

      I’m sure you could, but it would expensive as all heck cause of the weight. Would be cheaper to ship.

  • @jakejaket
    @jakejaket Рік тому +2

    Video for presonus coming soon??

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  Рік тому +1

      Yeah mate!
      Things are going slow. The label I do work for is killing me at the moment. Just ripping my time.
      So videos have been slow.

    • @jakejaket
      @jakejaket Рік тому +1

      @@TheSteveKinney able to give a few sentences on why you went presonus?

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  Рік тому +4

      @@jakejaket
      For one:
      To get the same I/o out of the behringer rack unit, you need an additional device.
      Presonus is 2U rack space.
      Behringer would then be 6U and two devices.
      So it makes more logistical sense.
      The next biggest reason is that the headphone output can be assigned to follow the mix of any of the outputs. Where as the behringer is only on the main left and right.
      This whole rig will be next to the drummer, which means that his personalized in ear monitor mix can then be patched to the headphone out.
      Long story short, very flexible for routing.
      THEN. The real kicker.
      On the behringer unit, it has modeled plugins, but you can only use 8 models, for the whole board via the sub mixes.
      On the presonus, you can have modeled eq’s and compression on EACH channel. For all 32 channels. Plus subgroups.
      In addition, each channel has its own limiter as well.
      So overall, it’s a far superior mixing console.
      Only thing that behringer has is the fact that most venues buy it since it’s the bare minimum for a FOH system.

  • @blueskky9996
    @blueskky9996 Рік тому +1

    Very nice build. I hope your apartment is on the 1st floor.

  • @jmac6832
    @jmac6832 Рік тому +1

    Cell phones and wi-fi aren't in the same frequency spectrum as wireless ears and mics so they will NEVER be an issue for you.

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  Рік тому +2

      Sorry, but literally. Always and anytime a phone is near any of the wireless stuff - there is whipping.
      You are right that they aren’t in the same freq, but from experience, it’s non stop.

    • @jmac6832
      @jmac6832 Рік тому +1

      @@TheSteveKinney Just make sure that your wireless isn't in these ranges:
      698-806 MHz (700 MHz Band)
      806-849/851-896 MHz (800 MHz Band)
      1850-1910/1930-1990 MHz (PCS Band)
      1710-1755/2110-2155 MHz (AWS Band)

  • @alexbaumy
    @alexbaumy Рік тому +1

    In the title do you mean "X32?"...as there is no such thing as a Beringer 32R..

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  Рік тому

      This is not a behringer.
      This is a presonus 32r and it’s way better than the behringer for a bunch of reason.
      And I feel shitty cause I just haven’t had the chance to make the follow up video.
      I have great experience with both. This is what I’d get every time.

    • @alexbaumy
      @alexbaumy Рік тому +1

      I know...change your title to say (NOT a behringer "X32"

    • @TheSteveKinney
      @TheSteveKinney  Рік тому

      @@alexbaumy OHHHH gotcha!!
      I don’t actually make any of the titles - so I didn’t even notice that. Good catch!
      I just do the nerdy filming and editing. LOL
      All the backend stuff is handled by my wife.
      I’ll fix right now! Thanks mate!