@@johnnyisahermit They probably made use of bad batches from the 22", if there was a fault somewhere in the panel cut it in 4 & sell the hopefully 3 functional but smaller panels at a discounted price.
I remember when this was all over the cover and the featured article for Popular Sciences best inventions of that year. It was absolutely crazy at the time.
I still remember working in a small electronics shop in Germany. We received a sample from Sony, and we displayed it with a ridiculously high sticker price. Surprisingly, someone really wanted to buy it. We had to get permission from Sony to sell it because it wasn't actually intended for sale at that point.
11", 960x540p60 OLED from 2008... sounds like it was a stepping stone to the 5" 960x544p60 (220ppi) OLED panel that went in to the Vita 100x/110x units just 3-4 years later (2011/2012). Honestly impressive for a 16 year old product.
I was working at a Sony Centre and we had 2 of these, one display and 1 brand new as stock. The boss thought we would never sell it as it was $aus6999. After i sold it for virtually full price, the boss gave me an incredible deal on the display model, as it was no longer needed (2009) as we wouldn't be getting any more. I have had it next to my bed ever since and its still going strong. Probably gets about 3 hours use every day. Although small, when its this close its really not an issue for me. Thankfully it had digital tuner built in so hasn't become obsolete. Mine has 2 hdmi, usb and the 3.5.mm headphone jack. I have google chromecast plugged into to stream. I also still have the original demo dvd we used in the store that has all the selling points etc. and the brochure No burn in issues with mine and picture is still great. Absolutely love it
What I think is crazier is that only a few years later, late 2011 early 2012, the Playstation Vita released with a 5" OLED at the same resolution, and the whole console cost $250-350 depending on the model. The pace at which this tech became affordable is crazy.
I remember when we from the professional and broadcast side of Sony were briefed on that exact TV and technology. The opinion at the time was that the end result is great, but the natural deterioration of the organic component of the OLED (?) made larger screens impractical/impossible. Sony hit a wall in its R&D and apparently the larger screen were failing noticeably after 6 months. They did persevere for a while though, but ultimately abandoned OLED. They were quite dismissive internally of LG picking up the tech, and the attitude was more along the lines "we dodged a bullet, watch LG losing money on this". To be fair this was happening when Sony was already considering bowing out of the screen manufacturing business and sold off a lot of its tech to Samsung and LG. Forward a few years later and they became one of the main promoter of OLED in the pro space (using panels from LG).
Still today it seems OLED is less feasible for large screens, though it has dominated small screen based markets like phone, smartwatch, etc, televisions are still limited to highly expensive models. In fact top players like Samsung, LG(the OG OLED brand), etc have already started focusing on all sorts of alternatives, QLED, Mini-LED, Micro-LED.
Yes I remember it well. It was thought at the time it would take a couple of decades to get OLED tech up to the sort of panel sizes seen in larger LCDs of the time (37"-40") converse to plasmas where they could only be shrunk down so much due to their own unique quirks, also part of why 4K plasmas never came to be (pixel density). So with OLEDs at least, they're a bit ahead of schedule and already being superceded by the next generation. One of the other fairly early uses of OLED was on the PS Vita, which look great but suffer from oversatured colours (something I quite like) as well as black spots in random places (something probably nobody likes).
@@dhanrajshetty5161of course they are. Especially samsung. LG has a few patents on OLED stuff that make it basically impossible for Samsung to do things with OLED. That is why they started with QLED.
I worked at the Sony store in Providence, RI during college and I fell in love with this thing. We had it in the store and it played Meet the Robinsons on repeat all day everyday and from that point on, I've been an OLED enthusiast. What a blast from the past!
@@niamhturner1451 I bought a 25 inch CRT with bass boosted speakers in 2007 and it was glorious. Then a year later I saw a 32 inch LCD TV at my uncle's house and my TV at home suddenly looked like a 1950s black and white TV.
@@niamhturner1451 not in 2008. I had a 27" 720P TV in my room for a few years already. CRTs died off pretty quickly. At least where I am in Canada. (The ironic thing is now I have a few CRTs and a Portable CRT I got over the past 2years)
Actually. We all need to thank Mr Nakamura. The guy who, against all odds, relentlessly found a way to create a blue LED. Also: Remarkable that there was no noticeable burn-in on that old display.
Yeah I saw a great documentary on that guy. Absolute labour of love and obsession making that, by modifying the fabrication equipment for red/green LEDs and uncovering the power of GaN even when his peers said it was a dead end. Proved everybody wrong didn't he? That's used in lots of things now, not just LEDs.
@@St0RM33 No he wasn't a saint. I really hate how Americans always try to talk like someone singlehandedly invented something and changed the world, but that's not how modern science works. It was a huge collaboration, and while it's true that the blue LED work was dismissed as too difficult, yet Nakamura continued working on it anyway, it's ridiculous to only credit him for the invention and not the company than sponsored him during much of the work, and most importantly his co-workers. Also it wasn't nowhere close "against all odds" when by the time he was dismissed he had like 80% of the work done lol.
OLED and LED works differently. Like really really different. Blue was hard to achieve in OLEDs too but this has nothing to do with Mr. Nakamura’s breakthrough with LEDs, as the nature of challenges faced were not even close to each other.
From Wikipedia: "The first practical plasma video display was co-invented in 1964 at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign by Donald Bitzer, H. Gene Slottow, and graduate student Robert Willson for the PLATO computer system." So I think that's gonna be a hard one 😂
@@DMalek first commercially available plasma tv of course. this is also not the first oled display to exist, but it's the first commercially available one
I remember reading the news when it was announced!!! Soon after, a flagship television newscast from Brazil started using it, and most impressively, it is still in use to this day!!
In 2008 we were still using a 32" Sony CRT in the living room that my parents bought in the 90's and smaller CRTs in the bedrooms. We still have that Sony CRT as it still works but take 3 to 4 people to move it.
Being based in the UK I only got to go to CES once… I smashed Vegas (another story) but this display was THE new technology at the show. You cannot underestimate how far ahead this sets picture quality was. For it to even hold up today speaks volumes to how amazing this was 16 years ago when most non-enthusiast TVs were still CRT or high end was plasma!! I was finally able to use my Covid mortgage break to buy a 65” OLED in lock down… living the dream!!
I remember when this Sony OLED TV released, it completely blew my mind as a kid. If I recall correctly, I was able to see it in person in a Sony store and was so hyped on seeing the first OLED tv because I didn’t think I’d ever see it or an OLED screen for years. Witnessing the expansion of OLED technology has been a beauty because of my awareness with this first tv
When you get that the first amoled smartphone was in 2006 it really put into perspective how long it has been used and we still have to check today if a phone use one or not since it's not assured.
@@Natsukashii11112006? 2008 was when all the first commercial OLED products came, e.g. the Nokia N85, this TV. The Samsung Galaxy in 2009 was the first one that was made in the millions afaik.
I actually owned one of these! Back in 2015 I picked one up for just $500 on ebay and yup the only issue was that lower resolution but overall the display quality blew me away especially since even in 2015 OLED hadn't really caught on yet
And 4 years after that in 2012, the PS Vita had one of the first OLEDs in a really portable device. Sony seems to have used pretty much the same display just tinier, the Vita's resolution is 960x544.
The resolution of this TV is, interestingly enough, the exact same as the PS Vita. That thing also had an OLED display but was just 5 inches, compared to 11.
Honestly, the coolest thing about this display is that it was for many people the first OLED panel that you could see in person. I remember going to a shopping mall with a Sony store, and they had one of these featured right in the middle of the store where you could look at it up close and be impressed by the tech.
It's got the resolution of Android smartphones from 2011, which really just shows how fast tech moved from 2008 to 2011. Oled was also juuust getting started taking hold in the mobile realm already by 2011. Wild times.
I mean, those screen sizes had been quite normal at that time. Think about it: The PSP for an example came out in 2005 and had half of that resolution as LCD. So there was absolutely no way that by 2011 (especially considering the progress in a lot of other terms, including render resolution of games as well as processing power for mobile devices) the resolution of anything that's handheld and capable of games/vide playback wouldn't have a higher resolution while at the same time most likely using an oled screen on top - which also includes the PS Vita which released in 2011 as well. It's honestly more interesting now that I think of it that the Vita was sold for the same price as the PSP on release despite having an OLED screen, yet somehow a 1080p OLED screen is still more expensive than a 1080p LCD screen today.
The reason why this display looks so close to the HDR references is because HDR is intended to standardise HDR delivery and playback, not create it from like it's something entirely new. SDR supports HDR output using tone mapping, but you need to manually match the display brightness to the video source to get an HDR effect. Proper HDR is better and more convenient, but the results aren't always significantly different.
Remember, Sony was putting OLED screens in the PlayStation Vita just a few years later! And they were figuring out 3D movies (and games for PS3), so they were figuring out how to put LCD shutters in 3D glasses, too. Go find a PlayStation TV while you're at it! Those were awesome for supporting two player full-screen split-screen using active 3D glasses!
While it didn't trick me because I'm not in a large building, I recognized that as T3 right away. The team should pick a different alarm pattern next time.
Sony had an 11" OLED in 2008, the smallest OLED TV you get today is 42 inches, with a large number of people still in need of 40 and 32 inches for CRT cabinets as well as 12V 24 inches for campers. Some of those TVs are still HD ready (1366x768), I'd guess they get cut from bigger LCDs with a lot of defects.
next year at CES in January 2009 -LG presents the first 15 inch OLED TV with HD resolution, then in 2010 LG presents a 31 inch OLED TV with FULL HD resolution, in 2012 LG presents the first 55 inch OLED TV. LG is the biggest innovator in the field of OLED TVs
literally watching this on one of those early LG "thin" monitors. its one of 4 that i use, but its my favorite piece of nostalgia since i got it for half off, when it was just released.
I remember working at the SonyStyle stores back in the day when this came out - got to speak to the engineering team about how it and a 40" prototype were built. Pretty neat stuff back then
@@UA-camdarek my aunt had mini disc player and as the only tech savy person in my familiy i had to fill it with music, it was a nightmare compared to mp3, dont miss those days.
When I first moved to Japan in 2008 this thing was just sitting in the middle of Yodabashi Camera (the Bestbuy of Japan) and I remember being amazed by it and then shocked by the sticker price…. I am so happy the technology has matured enough so that we can all afford it today,
Man, this takes me back. I heard about this display back in 8th grade from a CES article, and I ended up just gushing about it to a classmate. We ended up becoming friends over the shared interest, and years later and we're buddies who are still display nerds! 😁
I got a tour of an R&D Lab at Corning Glass one time. I'm talking, metal detector, pat down, sign NDA, be with someone the whole time etc etc. My friend worked in the lab and pulled some strings to get me there. I saw a prototype of this exact display. The base was different but the display was amazing. I remember the screen being about as thick as a piece of card board. They had several of them and different stages of assembly.
I think if anything, this really hits home to me how amazing the iPad screen is. Thinking of it as a high end portable monitor it somehow seems affordable next to the Sony. If only ipads took display input..
Yes. I remember that screen behind a glass case as a centerpiece in the technology section of a department store. It did look amazing back then. I just couldn’t picture why would anyone want something like that. But that memory of how amazing it looked has been stuck in my mind for all these years.
I remember seeing this behind glass in a local mall back in the day! It was so exciting since my parents had started purchasing their first flat LCD TVs at the time, and I wondered if someday we would see it at home. And then just a couple of years later I got my first Android Phone a Galaxy S with Super AMOLED! Without getting super into specs OLED really shifted the experience of what a display can and should be from the beginning.
I had a similar experience seeing an old Galaxy S5. The display looks almost the same as that of a modern Pixel 7, just a bit more yellow and with a lower maximum brightness. But the hint of yellow actually gave it a pleasant warm look and the max brightness only matters outdoors, it had plenty of brightness for indoor use. It looks way better than any LCD monitor I've seen.
What Linus says about how good it simply looks and how it can take SD content and make it look epic - its what I wish more people could see with my TV(s). I have the last Premier Plasma from Panasonic VT65 and the Samsung 8500 . After them Plasma was basically done in. - I would (not counting resolution but at that size its fine) put my Plasma's up against even modern low and mid level TV's and the OLED's as well. Its something that you can only see in person. I remember seeing this Sony on display at the BBY I worked at - blown away given LED was just about to be everywhere vs LCD and Rear Projection TV's being the best bang for your buck. Plasma for life! ;)
I remember being blown away seeing one of these in a Sony store at a mall. It was so obviously superior to LCD’s and made me anticipate the technology maturing in the future.
The OLED TV technology clearly still impresses just like it did years ago. The comparison with Apple's new Ultra retina display was striking. Technology surely has come a long way, but the classics still manage to hold their own.
I remember seeing this as a kid in a Sony store with my dad. We were both blown away by the screen, and whatever outrageous price it had at the time. Wild
9:48 - Letterbox refers to the wider aspect ratio (bars on the top and bottom) - pillarbox was the term Linus should have used for bars on the left and right (the narrower aspect ratio of 4:3)
I used to work at Best Buy in Anchorage, Alaska before 2008, and they got one of these Sony's displays in a clear box playing a demo video. I know it was either in 2006 or early 2007. The one we got was only a demo, and it wasn't for sale. I absolutely remeber how blown away I was at this diplay. It was playing a Sony rendered type demo that showed off the deep, blacks and colors really well. It was stunning compared to anything else I had seen before it. It had deep blacks amazing colors and incredible highlights. It's common technology now, but back then it really stood out compared to the bland washed out LCDs of the day.
I was in a situation where I saw a lot of these when they were brand new. It’s cool too see how they still hold up today. They used RGBOLED which as I understand is the ideal but most expensive type of OLED panel. So this is probably why it’s still so good compared to Woled or Qd-OLED today. Additionally as I recall blue was always a concern for longevity with OLED so I wonder if this would have been much closer in accuracy to the new iPad if it was spanking new.
I have 2 display panels from a couple of ca2004 laptops. Both manufactured by Quanta Display INC. I was planning on using them for DIY projects since control boards could be bought on ebay. I was shocked to find out back then, it was 1080/60htz. I'm still down to use the one in a DIY project, like a display for model train operations.
If i remember correctly, this *is* 1/4 of a 22" professional monitor by Sony...which cost upwards of $20 grand, so spot on
3:32
@@jivewig Yeah the comment above was responding to exactly that
so four of these would be half the price of the monitor but require the same amount of OLED, odd
@@johnnyisahermitRight. That’s insane
@@johnnyisahermit They probably made use of bad batches from the 22", if there was a fault somewhere in the panel cut it in 4 & sell the hopefully 3 functional but smaller panels at a discounted price.
When I worked at Circuit City my boss had this and we watched Fantastic Four on it. What a time to be alive.
I worked there in 1997 to 2002
There were still circuit cities in 2008?
I worked there in 2004-2012
@@DivineVegan remember the divx gimmick lol
@@JamesMFarley anyone remember the divx gimmick circuit city invested into lol
I remember when this was all over the cover and the featured article for Popular Sciences best inventions of that year. It was absolutely crazy at the time.
i remember it being at CES and the thin panel was the main comment.
I still remember working in a small electronics shop in Germany. We received a sample from Sony, and we displayed it with a ridiculously high sticker price. Surprisingly, someone really wanted to buy it. We had to get permission from Sony to sell it because it wasn't actually intended for sale at that point.
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James shot 20 sponsor segments at the same spot 😂😂😂
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@@mikec.8604 thats just lazy location scouting if you ask me..
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11", 960x540p60 OLED from 2008... sounds like it was a stepping stone to the 5" 960x544p60 (220ppi) OLED panel that went in to the Vita 100x/110x units just 3-4 years later (2011/2012).
Honestly impressive for a 16 year old product.
I was working at a Sony Centre and we had 2 of these, one display and 1 brand new as stock. The boss thought we would never sell it as it was $aus6999. After i sold it for virtually full price, the boss gave me an incredible deal on the display model, as it was no longer needed (2009) as we wouldn't be getting any more.
I have had it next to my bed ever since and its still going strong. Probably gets about 3 hours use every day. Although small, when its this close its really not an issue for me. Thankfully it had digital tuner built in so hasn't become obsolete.
Mine has 2 hdmi, usb and the 3.5.mm headphone jack. I have google chromecast plugged into to stream. I also still have the original demo dvd we used in the store that has all the selling points etc. and the brochure
No burn in issues with mine and picture is still great. Absolutely love it
That is SO FREAKING COOL dude!! Good on you
No burn in after 15 years???
That's insane.
What I think is crazier is that only a few years later, late 2011 early 2012, the Playstation Vita released with a 5" OLED at the same resolution, and the whole console cost $250-350 depending on the model. The pace at which this tech became affordable is crazy.
I remember when we from the professional and broadcast side of Sony were briefed on that exact TV and technology. The opinion at the time was that the end result is great, but the natural deterioration of the organic component of the OLED (?) made larger screens impractical/impossible. Sony hit a wall in its R&D and apparently the larger screen were failing noticeably after 6 months. They did persevere for a while though, but ultimately abandoned OLED. They were quite dismissive internally of LG picking up the tech, and the attitude was more along the lines "we dodged a bullet, watch LG losing money on this". To be fair this was happening when Sony was already considering bowing out of the screen manufacturing business and sold off a lot of its tech to Samsung and LG. Forward a few years later and they became one of the main promoter of OLED in the pro space (using panels from LG).
Still today it seems OLED is less feasible for large screens, though it has dominated small screen based markets like phone, smartwatch, etc, televisions are still limited to highly expensive models. In fact top players like Samsung, LG(the OG OLED brand), etc have already started focusing on all sorts of alternatives, QLED, Mini-LED, Micro-LED.
Yes I remember it well. It was thought at the time it would take a couple of decades to get OLED tech up to the sort of panel sizes seen in larger LCDs of the time (37"-40") converse to plasmas where they could only be shrunk down so much due to their own unique quirks, also part of why 4K plasmas never came to be (pixel density). So with OLEDs at least, they're a bit ahead of schedule and already being superceded by the next generation. One of the other fairly early uses of OLED was on the PS Vita, which look great but suffer from oversatured colours (something I quite like) as well as black spots in random places (something probably nobody likes).
@@dhanrajshetty5161of course they are. Especially samsung. LG has a few patents on OLED stuff that make it basically impossible for Samsung to do things with OLED. That is why they started with QLED.
I worked at the Sony store in Providence, RI during college and I fell in love with this thing. We had it in the store and it played Meet the Robinsons on repeat all day everyday and from that point on, I've been an OLED enthusiast. What a blast from the past!
The mall? That place always had the craziest demo setups
Thats not an *OLED TV* thats an ᴼᴸᴱᴰ ᵀⱽ
in 2008 most people were still watching TV in their room on a portable crt (around 15in max)
@@niamhturner1451 I bought a 25 inch CRT with bass boosted speakers in 2007 and it was glorious. Then a year later I saw a 32 inch LCD TV at my uncle's house and my TV at home suddenly looked like a 1950s black and white TV.
@@niamhturner1451 its amazing how quickly lcd and oled panels have increased in size
@@niamhturner1451 not in 2008. I had a 27" 720P TV in my room for a few years already. CRTs died off pretty quickly. At least where I am in Canada. (The ironic thing is now I have a few CRTs and a Portable CRT I got over the past 2years)
I had a 17" CRT at the time, but definitely non portable lol@@niamhturner1451
Actually. We all need to thank Mr Nakamura. The guy who, against all odds, relentlessly found a way to create a blue LED.
Also: Remarkable that there was no noticeable burn-in on that old display.
What an absolute legend
Yeah I saw a great documentary on that guy. Absolute labour of love and obsession making that, by modifying the fabrication equipment for red/green LEDs and uncovering the power of GaN even when his peers said it was a dead end. Proved everybody wrong didn't he? That's used in lots of things now, not just LEDs.
@@St0RM33 No he wasn't a saint. I really hate how Americans always try to talk like someone singlehandedly invented something and changed the world, but that's not how modern science works. It was a huge collaboration, and while it's true that the blue LED work was dismissed as too difficult, yet Nakamura continued working on it anyway, it's ridiculous to only credit him for the invention and not the company than sponsored him during much of the work, and most importantly his co-workers. Also it wasn't nowhere close "against all odds" when by the time he was dismissed he had like 80% of the work done lol.
@@Joaquin-rd3kmYeah, but what about when Al Gore invented the Internet?
OLED and LED works differently. Like really really different. Blue was hard to achieve in OLEDs too but this has nothing to do with Mr. Nakamura’s breakthrough with LEDs, as the nature of challenges faced were not even close to each other.
How many times do you think Linus has said "boy does it *ever* look good" in his career?
someone needs to make a supercut!
knowing him, 69x, I'd wager
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You should try to buy the worlds first plasma tv next!!!
From Wikipedia: "The first practical plasma video display was co-invented in 1964 at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign by Donald Bitzer, H. Gene Slottow, and graduate student Robert Willson for the PLATO computer system." So I think that's gonna be a hard one 😂
@@DMalek first commercially available plasma tv of course. this is also not the first oled display to exist, but it's the first commercially available one
First available Plasma TV was from Philips if I'm not mistaken and the panel was produced by Fujitsu somewhere around 1996/97
I remember reading the news when it was announced!!! Soon after, a flagship television newscast from Brazil started using it, and most impressively, it is still in use to this day!!
Qual emissora/jornal usa?
@@fortenhu TV Globo. Jornal Nacional. Repara que a base fica embaixo da bancada e só o braço/tela visíveis
Nossa, imaginei q fosse o mesmo monitor deles
That is an interesting story! Mastering quality I guess!
In 2008 we were still using a 32" Sony CRT in the living room that my parents bought in the 90's and smaller CRTs in the bedrooms. We still have that Sony CRT as it still works but take 3 to 4 people to move it.
I’m liking the TechMoan inspired direction for the channel honestly
I remember his review of it.
Techmoan doesn’t do four ads in one video.
@@mikebackatyouiirc UA-cam isn't techmoan only money source.
Finally: a Linus sized tv
later they made a handheld with OLED, which is the PS-Vita first gen.
it was so ahead of its time, OLED screen, hall effect sticks, etc.
Being based in the UK I only got to go to CES once… I smashed Vegas (another story) but this display was THE new technology at the show. You cannot underestimate how far ahead this sets picture quality was. For it to even hold up today speaks volumes to how amazing this was 16 years ago when most non-enthusiast TVs were still CRT or high end was plasma!! I was finally able to use my Covid mortgage break to buy a 65” OLED in lock down… living the dream!!
I really enjoy the enthusiasm in these sorts of videos! Just some cool tech that was at the bleeding edge.
Who remembers the LG "scarlet" TVs? I remember those being revolutionarily thin and blowing everyone away. 2008 was a cool year for tech.
9:46 Surely you mean pillarboxed rather than letterboxed?
Brain fart, yes.
And don’t call me Shirley.
I remember when this Sony OLED TV released, it completely blew my mind as a kid. If I recall correctly, I was able to see it in person in a Sony store and was so hyped on seeing the first OLED tv because I didn’t think I’d ever see it or an OLED screen for years. Witnessing the expansion of OLED technology has been a beauty because of my awareness with this first tv
You had the most perfect opportunity to recreate the plasma tv scene from the office and let it just sail by.
That was my first thought as well! 😂
These tech reviewers @whatphoto are like REAL Comedians WITH THIS TECH!!!❤❤🎉
And here I am watching a review of the first ever OLED screen on my *budget* OLED phone. Crazy how accessible this technology has become
Crazy that now OLED is standard in many laptop screens. 2008 doesn't even feel that long ago
But the truth is 2008 was 16 years ago
Well, that statement is not going to hold up well 😅
When you get that the first amoled smartphone was in 2006 it really put into perspective how long it has been used and we still have to check today if a phone use one or not since it's not assured.
@@Natsukashii11112006? 2008 was when all the first commercial OLED products came, e.g. the Nokia N85, this TV. The Samsung Galaxy in 2009 was the first one that was made in the millions afaik.
@@manazkajay8806 thank you for doing the math on that, I had no idea
Also the fact that the Vita had an oled screen so early is insane
It's crazy how there are OLED tablets (14 inch Samsung S9 Ultra) that are bigger than the first OLED "TV" (11 inches).
What’s crazy is how long it took to get from then to there.
I actually owned one of these! Back in 2015 I picked one up for just $500 on ebay and yup the only issue was that lower resolution but overall the display quality blew me away especially since even in 2015 OLED hadn't really caught on yet
Linus with the “what’s up brother”
I'm not your brother, guy.
@@arnox4554I’m not your guy, pal
@@roejieks I'm not your pal, friend.
@@arnox4554 i'm not ur friend, buddy.
I'm not your buddy, fella.
Love using HTTYD as a test film! Both a great film and good to see something closer to what the display was designed to show.
I remember watching this screen everyday on a Sony store on my way to classes, never saw someone buying one.
One of my favorite MP3 players, the RCA Opal, had a great little OLED screen and that was my first taste of what could be. This is super cool.
I remember we were on a high school trip to some sort of sciencey place in '08 or'09 and they had this TV as a little demo of the screen of the future
And 4 years after that in 2012, the PS Vita had one of the first OLEDs in a really portable device.
Sony seems to have used pretty much the same display just tinier, the Vita's resolution is 960x544.
I still remember seeing it on display at Heathrow airport. At the time I was blown away buy the fact that the black of the screen was actually black
The resolution of this TV is, interestingly enough, the exact same as the PS Vita. That thing also had an OLED display but was just 5 inches, compared to 11.
I worked at Best Buy when they had one of these on the counter. It was super cool back then.
Honestly, the coolest thing about this display is that it was for many people the first OLED panel that you could see in person. I remember going to a shopping mall with a Sony store, and they had one of these featured right in the middle of the store where you could look at it up close and be impressed by the tech.
Looks like a neat little tv to have on a bed tray table, or something on a kitchen counter.
It's got the resolution of Android smartphones from 2011, which really just shows how fast tech moved from 2008 to 2011. Oled was also juuust getting started taking hold in the mobile realm already by 2011. Wild times.
I mean, those screen sizes had been quite normal at that time.
Think about it: The PSP for an example came out in 2005 and had half of that resolution as LCD.
So there was absolutely no way that by 2011 (especially considering the progress in a lot of other terms, including render resolution of games as well as processing power for mobile devices) the resolution of anything that's handheld and capable of games/vide playback wouldn't have a higher resolution while at the same time most likely using an oled screen on top - which also includes the PS Vita which released in 2011 as well.
It's honestly more interesting now that I think of it that the Vita was sold for the same price as the PSP on release despite having an OLED screen, yet somehow a 1080p OLED screen is still more expensive than a 1080p LCD screen today.
The reason why this display looks so close to the HDR references is because HDR is intended to standardise HDR delivery and playback, not create it from like it's something entirely new. SDR supports HDR output using tone mapping, but you need to manually match the display brightness to the video source to get an HDR effect. Proper HDR is better and more convenient, but the results aren't always significantly different.
I saw this on display in 2008 at a Sony outlet and was impressed, I'm not surprised by your reaction.
I love the side by side conparisons because i can't see a difference while watching the video on my phone
I remember this! It came out when I was in high school and I could not comprehend the “infinite” contrast ratio they were advertising.
4 in video ads for a 14 minute video huh
It’s gross
i didnt see a single one.
Linus media group
It is buns
use adblock
Remember, Sony was putting OLED screens in the PlayStation Vita just a few years later! And they were figuring out 3D movies (and games for PS3), so they were figuring out how to put LCD shutters in 3D glasses, too. Go find a PlayStation TV while you're at it! Those were awesome for supporting two player full-screen split-screen using active 3D glasses!
The alarm sound at 11:30 sounds like my building's fire alarm.
With noise canceling headphones on I though the building's fire alarm was going off.
There is no alarm sound in the video YOU ARE BURNING RUN!
While it didn't trick me because I'm not in a large building, I recognized that as T3 right away. The team should pick a different alarm pattern next time.
I see that Linus is a man of culture (How To Train Your Dragon is a really good movie)
Yo the camera work on this episode is stellar, really enjoyed the various shot angles
This brings back so many memories of going to the Sony store in high school and checking this demo out!
Sony had an 11" OLED in 2008, the smallest OLED TV you get today is 42 inches, with a large number of people still in need of 40 and 32 inches for CRT cabinets as well as 12V 24 inches for campers. Some of those TVs are still HD ready (1366x768), I'd guess they get cut from bigger LCDs with a lot of defects.
next year at CES in January 2009 -LG presents the first 15 inch OLED TV with HD resolution, then in 2010 LG presents a 31 inch OLED TV with FULL HD resolution, in 2012 LG presents the first 55 inch OLED TV.
LG is the biggest innovator in the field of OLED TVs
literally watching this on one of those early LG "thin" monitors. its one of 4 that i use, but its my favorite piece of nostalgia since i got it for half off, when it was just released.
I bougth the world's first linus.
Real
Real
I bougnd the world's second linus.
I bougnht the one and only Linus.
I bought an off brand “Limus”
5:25 is it just the reflections or ipad has less contrast than a 16yo tv?
It is the likely to be qd oled that gets purpley and has less contrast when hit with light
I remember working at the SonyStyle stores back in the day when this came out - got to speak to the engineering team about how it and a 40" prototype were built. Pretty neat stuff back then
I remember seeing that at the Sony store in Montreal Eaton center, it was so cool !
This was not only the first oled tv it's the only RGB oled tv to date .
I miss having SONY stores to visit...I remember this product on display, it was jaw dropping
I remembering checking out this TV…while considering whether I should buy a Sony mini-disc player lol. Dodged a bullet with that one.
@@UA-camdarek They had a much longer life in Japan :)
@@UA-camdarek my aunt had mini disc player and as the only tech savy person in my familiy i had to fill it with music, it was a nightmare compared to mp3, dont miss those days.
I still have mine! Was a kitchen TV for like 20 years after the novelty wore off but it was awesome!
0:11 all i could think about michaels plasma tv idk
I actually remember seeing one of these on a training course at Sonys UK headquarters. It was pretty insane seeing this up close
All those years with manufacturers sitting on there arse OLED has been the most frustrating technology in history
You guys have so much content😂 new videos keep popping up my feed even though I thought I had already watched all of them😂👏👏
Worlds first game console?
Worlds first gpu?
Worlds first water cooler?
Worlds first ltt screwdriver concept?
Everything is already OLED here, my phone's display, TV and PC monitor. Love the deep black's and contrast.
I love how they don't even tell you what the sponsor does
When I first moved to Japan in 2008 this thing was just sitting in the middle of Yodabashi Camera (the Bestbuy of Japan) and I remember being amazed by it and then shocked by the sticker price…. I am so happy the technology has matured enough so that we can all afford it today,
5:13 “there is nothing else” meanwhile Sony Xperia 1 IV has full screen 1000nit for 2 years
He was talking about the ancient first OLED screen and the first Xperia, the X1 didn't have a 1000 nits screen back in 2008.
The iPhone had that for a few years too, I’m wondering if he’s talking about that output for such a large display?
Man, this takes me back. I heard about this display back in 8th grade from a CES article, and I ended up just gushing about it to a classmate. We ended up becoming friends over the shared interest, and years later and we're buddies who are still display nerds! 😁
XEL 1+Ps Vita+Raspberry Pi HDMI out=Sony Heaven
@@ronnyandernie just...use a Vita TV?
@@KSPRAYDAD Too easy
Now thats the ps vita owner mindset.@ronnyandernie
I got a tour of an R&D Lab at Corning Glass one time. I'm talking, metal detector, pat down, sign NDA, be with someone the whole time etc etc. My friend worked in the lab and pulled some strings to get me there. I saw a prototype of this exact display. The base was different but the display was amazing. I remember the screen being about as thick as a piece of card board. They had several of them and different stages of assembly.
This TV is older than me, I can't believe it.
aww a baby
I was visiting Tokyo in 2008 and saw this incredible TV in the Sony building, Ginza. It made me realize how far ahead technology was in Japan.
The TechMoan channel reviewed this about 3 years ago, cool to see it finally get to the USA ;)
Canada but hey
The XEL-1 was officially sold in North America. But they were just as expensive.
I think if anything, this really hits home to me how amazing the iPad screen is. Thinking of it as a high end portable monitor it somehow seems affordable next to the Sony. If only ipads took display input..
0:12 the snail is everywhere
Lmao my exact thought, I literally was just watching odd bawz
Yes. I remember that screen behind a glass case as a centerpiece in the technology section of a department store. It did look amazing back then. I just couldn’t picture why would anyone want something like that. But that memory of how amazing it looked has been stuck in my mind for all these years.
This tv looks like pixer Lamp
I remember seeing this behind glass in a local mall back in the day! It was so exciting since my parents had started purchasing their first flat LCD TVs at the time, and I wondered if someday we would see it at home. And then just a couple of years later I got my first Android Phone a Galaxy S with Super AMOLED! Without getting super into specs OLED really shifted the experience of what a display can and should be from the beginning.
I love watching Linus slowly realize HDR is a scam and he's only been impressed with OLED this whole time
I think calling HDR a scam is a strong takeaway that Linus wouldn’t agree with but ok.
@@Im_Behind_You it literally is not a scam.
Way to miss the point
Behold, HDR!
*sets brightness to max on an LCD display*
I think there’s an argument to be made that most of HDR content doesn't really do much with the technology.
I had a similar experience seeing an old Galaxy S5. The display looks almost the same as that of a modern Pixel 7, just a bit more yellow and with a lower maximum brightness. But the hint of yellow actually gave it a pleasant warm look and the max brightness only matters outdoors, it had plenty of brightness for indoor use. It looks way better than any LCD monitor I've seen.
Thank god there are no more "i clicked because Linus was on the left" comments
What Linus says about how good it simply looks and how it can take SD content and make it look epic - its what I wish more people could see with my TV(s). I have the last Premier Plasma from Panasonic VT65 and the Samsung 8500 . After them Plasma was basically done in. - I would (not counting resolution but at that size its fine) put my Plasma's up against even modern low and mid level TV's and the OLED's as well. Its something that you can only see in person. I remember seeing this Sony on display at the BBY I worked at - blown away given LED was just about to be everywhere vs LCD and Rear Projection TV's being the best bang for your buck. Plasma for life! ;)
Stopping people from saying first
must not have ever made it to the end of any of their videos where the full sponsor read is
By saying it first?
I remember seeing this as CES 09 and I was immediately sold on the technology. Didn’t get my first OLED TV until 2017
Still.. not first
I remember being blown away seeing one of these in a Sony store at a mall. It was so obviously superior to LCD’s and made me anticipate the technology maturing in the future.
Ain’t no way we got a oled tv before gta 6
The OLED TV technology clearly still impresses just like it did years ago. The comparison with Apple's new Ultra retina display was striking. Technology surely has come a long way, but the classics still manage to hold their own.
Only 4 views in 25 seconds damn LTT fell off
Your ability to have an original thought fell off
@@L33tSkE3t hahaha ur hilarious
@@L33tSkE3t i'm literally rolling
It's amazing to see how technology from 16 years ago still impresses today.
I remember seeing this as a kid in a Sony store with my dad. We were both blown away by the screen, and whatever outrageous price it had at the time. Wild
I honestly which that little OLED’s with this design philosophy still existed. Small TVs are great and have their place for sure
9:48 - Letterbox refers to the wider aspect ratio (bars on the top and bottom) - pillarbox was the term Linus should have used for bars on the left and right (the narrower aspect ratio of 4:3)
This brings me back. I remember seeing this at the Sony store when this came out. It was truly mind blowing back then!
I used to work at Best Buy in Anchorage, Alaska before 2008, and they got one of these Sony's displays in a clear box playing a demo video. I know it was either in 2006 or early 2007. The one we got was only a demo, and it wasn't for sale. I absolutely remeber how blown away I was at this diplay. It was playing a Sony rendered type demo that showed off the deep, blacks and colors really well. It was stunning compared to anything else I had seen before it. It had deep blacks amazing colors and incredible highlights. It's common technology now, but back then it really stood out compared to the bland washed out LCDs of the day.
I was in a situation where I saw a lot of these when they were brand new. It’s cool too see how they still hold up today. They used RGBOLED which as I understand is the ideal but most expensive type of OLED panel. So this is probably why it’s still so good compared to Woled or Qd-OLED today. Additionally as I recall blue was always a concern for longevity with OLED so I wonder if this would have been much closer in accuracy to the new iPad if it was spanking new.
I have 2 display panels from a couple of ca2004 laptops. Both manufactured by Quanta Display INC. I was planning on using them for DIY projects since control boards could be bought on ebay. I was shocked to find out back then, it was 1080/60htz. I'm still down to use the one in a DIY project, like a display for model train operations.