Another benefit of PoE power is if you have a managed PoE switch and it's plugged into a UPS, you get a central battery backup and remote power on/off control! I love using both of those features for my little array of homelab Pis :)
I combined a Waveshare M.2 Mini Adapter (SKU 27580) with the Waveshare PoE Hat (26399) and fit it all into a Fractal North Pi. Waveshare now also offers a PoE + M.2 Hat (SKU 28411). :D
A quick note I just got my pi5, and now using a 200 MB/s speed, 500Gig Sd Card, with a 3.0 external USB doc to boot Kali. The speed increase is from 104 MB/s in SDR104 mode (UHS-1 standard). to 200MB/s and all under 20.00 cheat and good boot.
Lets hope the Pi can handle having all those hats installed. I know with my Pi 3b I has issues where I get a low voltage detected when booting up if I have too many hats on. My Pi 4b does not seem to have this issue. I even tried a Pi 4 power supply on the Pi 3b but had the same issue. I might need to hook up a dvm to the Pi 3b and see what is happening with the 5v.
The Pi 5 has a fairly well beefed-up power supply circuit, that's why it needs a 5V 5A adaptor instead of the older 5V 3A adaptor. I know some of my Pi 4's would occasionally have power issues if I plugged power hungry USB drives into them.
I don’t think they can operate together as they both supply power to the Pi in different ways. The best option would be to put a UPS on your network switch if you need that functionality.
I was interested in all of those hats! They are really good. The inly thing that is missing with poe HAT was 2.5G ethernet, obviously poe is useless when You need usb-ethernet dongle. There was one hat that featured 2.5G (via usb) and nvme, but no poe. Hopefully we will get it some day :)
@@vileerdeng wow :) this would be just awesome, ultimate pi5 HAT. Another idea, Jeff recently reviewed usb 5Gbit ethernet dongle. Obviously this is just first one on the market based on RTL8157, just level up to the 2.5G. If You are familiar with design of such devices can You also comment if it's possible to design usb-ethernet switch for more devices? For now, ethernet can provide power and network, same for usb - because we already connecting usb-ethernet dongles, use usb-pd to power up devices. I was looking for something that will have let's say 8 usb--c ports and all connected devices get ethernet and power (if device can usb-pd, pi5 is lame here). On the other end there should be regular ethernet and power plug. Is such device possible? We could connect laptops, ipads, phones etc. all with ethernet and power without any dongles and cable shaghetti.. What do You think about such idea?
It depends what you have running. A Pi 5 uses around 5-10W depending on load and what’s hooked up to it. A 2500mAh 18650 cell has about 7Wh of usable capacity.
@@MichaelKlements The cable worked fine for about ~3 months in a case. Read several forum posts about how they were shipping a new cable and would replace the old one for free.
Some design decisions are getting ridiculous, by now, as they force 3rd party hardware developers to adapt with each new generation of the RPi boards (changing the HDMI plugs, switching the position of the ethernet every time, at last adding a power-button in the 5th generation, but still no nice serial header) I'm really curious, how long it takes them to make the RPi 500 complete (= add the parts for NVMe and PoE there, + a breadboard at the rear + Wifi antenna SMA connector + number block + touchpad + small integrated OLED / optional 4x20 text LCD + DB9 RS232/422/485 + secondary full size SD card reader + internal LiIon for using in as a portable terminal ) ... or at least ask people what extensions they really would like to have. On the other hand, we are grateful, Raspberry doesn't do vaporware, but comes up with news, when they are are ready to ship. Anyhow: Maybe someone like Waveshare or Banana comes with Boards + depicted solutions based on the CM4/5, entering new niches.
Another benefit of PoE power is if you have a managed PoE switch and it's plugged into a UPS, you get a central battery backup and remote power on/off control! I love using both of those features for my little array of homelab Pis :)
Great video summarizing some of the Pi hats. Thanks.
I combined a Waveshare M.2 Mini Adapter (SKU 27580) with the Waveshare PoE Hat (26399) and fit it all into a Fractal North Pi. Waveshare now also offers a PoE + M.2 Hat (SKU 28411). :D
Thanks for sharing these, I’ll look at them!
Excellent and useful reviews.
Does anyone know info on the cases at 0:38 secs ??
Mostly looking for one to run nvme lower board setup
A quick note I just got my pi5, and now using a 200 MB/s speed, 500Gig Sd Card, with a 3.0 external USB doc to boot Kali. The speed increase is from 104 MB/s in SDR104 mode (UHS-1 standard). to 200MB/s and all under 20.00 cheat and good boot.
You know you are making an impact when JG comments.
How are you using a laptop for its monitor and keyboard?
I'm using the CrowView Note, it's a "laptop" solution for a Raspberry Pi
@@MichaelKlements Cool... never heard of it. lol
@@MichaelKlementsplease make video tutorial it!
I've used the battery hats before. I'm not sure why I put the batteries in while connecting the board. 💨
3:50 oh I thought it was network switch, well that was annoying atleast I have a spare 5 port Poe switch
Lets hope the Pi can handle having all those hats installed. I know with my Pi 3b I has issues where I get a low voltage detected when booting up if I have too many hats on. My Pi 4b does not seem to have this issue. I even tried a Pi 4 power supply on the Pi 3b but had the same issue. I might need to hook up a dvm to the Pi 3b and see what is happening with the 5v.
The Pi 5 has a fairly well beefed-up power supply circuit, that's why it needs a 5V 5A adaptor instead of the older 5V 3A adaptor. I know some of my Pi 4's would occasionally have power issues if I plugged power hungry USB drives into them.
Nice testing. Any chance to get results with the UPS and the PoE+ hat together?
I don’t think they can operate together as they both supply power to the Pi in different ways. The best option would be to put a UPS on your network switch if you need that functionality.
Creative,thanks:)
I was interested in all of those hats! They are really good.
The inly thing that is missing with poe HAT was 2.5G ethernet, obviously poe is useless when You need usb-ethernet dongle. There was one hat that featured 2.5G (via usb) and nvme, but no poe. Hopefully we will get it some day :)
The Pi 5 really could have done with native 2.5G networking!
@@MichaelKlements and m.2 slot like literally any other SBC :)
I've added this to my to-do list. I've designed an NVMe and 2.5GbE hat, so making another one with the PoE+ feature is not difficult.
@@vileerdeng wow :) this would be just awesome, ultimate pi5 HAT.
Another idea, Jeff recently reviewed usb 5Gbit ethernet dongle. Obviously this is just first one on the market based on RTL8157, just level up to the 2.5G.
If You are familiar with design of such devices can You also comment if it's possible to design usb-ethernet switch for more devices? For now, ethernet can provide power and network, same for usb - because we already connecting usb-ethernet dongles, use usb-pd to power up devices. I was looking for something that will have let's say 8 usb--c ports and all connected devices get ethernet and power (if device can usb-pd, pi5 is lame here). On the other end there should be regular ethernet and power plug. Is such device possible? We could connect laptops, ipads, phones etc. all with ethernet and power without any dongles and cable shaghetti.. What do You think about such idea?
Oh... And we are still missing gen3 pcie switch HAT. !
Very good.
Great vid…but an hour or 2 for the UPS?
this isn’t the future I thought we were in yet😅
It depends what you have running. A Pi 5 uses around 5-10W depending on load and what’s hooked up to it. A 2500mAh 18650 cell has about 7Wh of usable capacity.
The x1003 died on me after 3 months but apparently it’s a problem with the ribbon cable.
The ribbon cables on a lot of these hats are quite fragile.
@@MichaelKlements The cable worked fine for about ~3 months in a case. Read several forum posts about how they were shipping a new cable and would replace the old one for free.
Some design decisions are getting ridiculous, by now, as they force 3rd party hardware developers to adapt with each new generation of the RPi boards (changing the HDMI plugs, switching the position of the ethernet every time, at last adding a power-button in the 5th generation, but still no nice serial header) I'm really curious, how long it takes them to make the RPi 500 complete (= add the parts for NVMe and PoE there, + a breadboard at the rear + Wifi antenna SMA connector + number block + touchpad + small integrated OLED / optional 4x20 text LCD + DB9 RS232/422/485 + secondary full size SD card reader + internal LiIon for using in as a portable terminal ) ... or at least ask people what extensions they really would like to have.
On the other hand, we are grateful, Raspberry doesn't do vaporware, but comes up with news, when they are are ready to ship.
Anyhow: Maybe someone like Waveshare or Banana comes with Boards + depicted solutions based on the CM4/5, entering new niches.