Just saw this, and not a pro, but learned from other pros who have docked stern to quite differently: Usually, prioritize stopping the boat in neutral a couple meters+ from the dock and getting two stern lines thrown and fixed (by shore assistants) and then putting the engines slow forward to hold the boat with time to walk the mooring lines forward. I am not sure of the nomenclature, but to me a med mooring is with a bow anchor and this is what I would call a stern to dockage.
Yeah, I was in Croatia not Greece and the circumstances were what they were so I think it would be great if you post a video of yourself doing everything that you described👍
Interested to see how folks do this with a 20knots side wind. Just got back from Croatia/Greece where we had a bit of a cock up trying to leave a med mooring in Srebreno and the wind swung from just off port bow to starboard side 3 seconds after dropping the lines!
Lol fair comment Bruce! 👍🏽. That was part of what I wanted to illustrate is those stupid ground lines they use in the marinas in the Mediterranean are just setting people up for disaster imagine if there was a 20 kn crosswind and imagine if I hadn’t put the bow line on my next door neighbour what chance swould I have had other than dropping an anchor and they don’t want you to drop anchors there…. but anyway hope you enjoyed the video have fun see you out there Cheers 🙂
Hey Bruce just getting back to you after this year’s deployment to Croatia for filming and your wish is my command Sir ! 👍 there is now indeed a 20 knot crosswind version of the video that you requested🙂 Welcome your comments thank you Sir . enjoy be safe have fun👍
Why would you want to use an anchor in marina Palmizana? At the place where you docked and most of the other dock spaces in a tight marina like this one there is no real space for anchoring, let alone dropping enough chain (except maybe on some of few outer dock spaces here). Ground/lazy lines seems to be the best for this type of marina. Drive to the dock, put on the windward stern line, put gear in forward and you have all the time in the world to attach the lazy lines in the front and have excellent control of your bow by playing with the throttles (+ rudder on a mono), especially on a cat with the two engines. Only need to watch out to not get the lazyline stuck in the prop when the marinero pulls it up for you, and, I agree, they may be really dirty... gloves recommended sometimes. Other then that, I really like your calm approach.
I am guessing that at the end of your video the boat was put in reverse to bring it closer to the dock, putting load on the lazy lines and allowing the slack to be taken in on the stern lines. The result being that the boat is ‘suspended’ between the lazy lines and the stern lines. Allowing you to be close to the dock and minimising boat movement even in strong winds.
When in a marina ok, although you are not gentle with your back😊, but try Med stern docking in a Greek island, no help from shore!!! And yes, 20 knots of wind! And single handed! Sailing catamarans since 2012, (Monohulls since 1976), this situation, single handed and 20 knots of wind is the norm, not the exception, and of course you drop your anchor as there is no mooring lines. You should bend some rules, leave the helm position with engines engaged, run a bit in a hurry, things like that. I am looking forward to see such a video, noon time at Paros Naousa, or Alonissos Patitiri, July, August. (I say noon time as in the afternoon the place is packed and there is no room)
The defenition of solo is. Done by one person alone; unaccompanied. Don`t get me wrong i have no complaints about your manouvers but it`s not solo as the headline claims.
You kept saying “see what I mean about these stupid slime lines“, since you’re asking, no I don’t. I’ve used a lot of lazy lines and done a lot of anchoring, if tying the lazy line seems like a lot of work to you, I guess I am confused.
There are pluses and minuses . My preference would be to drop and anchor to have control of the bow but the marinas are configured with these ground lines which you can’t retrieve until You are backed all the way in- with no control of your bow ……. Plus they are a total pain in the arse to heave up to the bow as they spray mud and slime all over you
No struggles. All cool and calm. I would imagine you are the same way when you dock a 45 foot boat on your own in a crowded marina. I’d love to see your single-handed boat Docking videos ...what’s your channel name?
Just saw this, and not a pro, but learned from other pros who have docked stern to quite differently: Usually, prioritize stopping the boat in neutral a couple meters+ from the dock and getting two stern lines thrown and fixed (by shore assistants) and then putting the engines slow forward to hold the boat with time to walk the mooring lines forward. I am not sure of the nomenclature, but to me a med mooring is with a bow anchor and this is what I would call a stern to dockage.
Agreed. I was single handed. That changes things
I would never leave the helm station when a gear is engaged, maybe when a stern line is already fixed
Yeah, I was in Croatia not Greece and the circumstances were what they were so I think it would be great if you post a video of yourself doing everything that you described👍
Noted!
Interested to see how folks do this with a 20knots side wind. Just got back from Croatia/Greece where we had a bit of a cock up trying to leave a med mooring in Srebreno and the wind swung from just off port bow to starboard side 3 seconds after dropping the lines!
Yikes! Hope you managed ok 👍👍
Beautifully done. Now for the 20 knot crosswind version. 🤣
Lol fair comment Bruce! 👍🏽. That was part of what I wanted to illustrate is those stupid ground lines they use in the marinas in the Mediterranean are just setting people up for disaster imagine if there was a 20 kn crosswind and imagine if I hadn’t put the bow line on my next door neighbour what chance swould I have had other than dropping an anchor and they don’t want you to drop anchors there…. but anyway hope you enjoyed the video have fun see you out there
Cheers 🙂
Hey Bruce just getting back to you after this year’s deployment to Croatia for filming and your wish is my command Sir ! 👍 there is now indeed a 20 knot crosswind version of the video that you requested🙂
Welcome your comments thank you Sir . enjoy be safe have fun👍
Why would you want to use an anchor in marina Palmizana? At the place where you docked and most of the other dock spaces in a tight marina like this one there is no real space for anchoring, let alone dropping enough chain (except maybe on some of few outer dock spaces here). Ground/lazy lines seems to be the best for this type of marina. Drive to the dock, put on the windward stern line, put gear in forward and you have all the time in the world to attach the lazy lines in the front and have excellent control of your bow by playing with the throttles (+ rudder on a mono), especially on a cat with the two engines. Only need to watch out to not get the lazyline stuck in the prop when the marinero pulls it up for you, and, I agree, they may be really dirty... gloves recommended sometimes. Other then that, I really like your calm approach.
I am guessing that at the end of your video the boat was put in reverse to bring it closer to the dock, putting load on the lazy lines and allowing the slack to be taken in on the stern lines. The result being that the boat is ‘suspended’ between the lazy lines and the stern lines. Allowing you to be close to the dock and minimising boat movement even in strong winds.
Amazing !
When in a marina ok, although you are not gentle with your back😊, but try Med stern docking in a Greek island, no help from shore!!! And yes, 20 knots of wind! And single handed! Sailing catamarans since 2012, (Monohulls since 1976), this situation, single handed and 20 knots of wind is the norm, not the exception, and of course you drop your anchor as there is no mooring lines.
You should bend some rules, leave the helm position with engines engaged, run a bit in a hurry, things like that. I am looking forward to see such a video, noon time at Paros Naousa, or Alonissos Patitiri, July, August. (I say noon time as in the afternoon the place is packed and there is no room)
Stay tuned …. May be go somewhere else ? Sounds like a sh1t show …
If you don't know how to tie a cleat (knot), tie a lot! 😉
The defenition of solo is. Done by one person alone; unaccompanied. Don`t get me wrong i have no complaints about your manouvers but it`s not solo as the headline claims.
Well I had no choice about the guy on the dock taking my line. It was solo.
You kept saying “see what I mean about these stupid slime lines“, since you’re asking, no I don’t. I’ve used a lot of lazy lines and done a lot of anchoring, if tying the lazy line seems like a lot of work to you, I guess I am confused.
There are pluses and minuses . My preference would be to drop and anchor to have control of the bow but the marinas are configured with these ground lines which you can’t retrieve until
You are backed all the way in- with no control of your bow ……. Plus they are a total pain in the arse to heave up to the bow as they spray mud and slime all over you
You are such an amatour that its really funny to watch your struggles….
No struggles. All cool and calm. I would imagine you are the same way when you dock a 45 foot boat on your own in a crowded marina.
I’d love to see your single-handed boat Docking videos ...what’s your channel name?
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