We say this for every Derozan team but the reality is, there’s a reason why he’s the worst performing playoff player of all time and why every fanbase is glad to see him gone from their team. Great dude but he caps your ceiling as a team.
Hard disagree. They could’ve gotten quality role players instead of DeRozan. They could’ve gotten a legit rim protector instead of DeRozan. This is absolutely on him (or at least on the front office for getting him)😊
Yup I like DeRozan style of play during regular season. But yeah they could have gotten 2 good support players instead especially during when Murray is cold. Which happens a lot.
@@sgrey9181 Or maybe just maybe if Huerter was worth a shit, or if Keegan did something offensively, or if anyone off the bench contributed besides Monk, OR OR OR OR OR I could go on for days.
"They need a starter in at all time to stay in games" literally every team ever, that is not the issue, what championship team ran a full bench unit in the finals
There's a couple of things that are happening right now. 1. The Sacramento Kings were a bit of a flawed team to begin with and relied on a very smooth, quick paced offense to generate open threepointers and layups out of multiple quick actions. The only reason they were succesful was by outscoring teams and just having a great offense and relying on solid guardplay from Fox and Monk to close out games. When the 3 pointer isn't falling and the offense bogs down, the team isn't doing anything that outstanding anymore. Adding basically only DeMar DeRozan to that mix doesn't really help much, although it gives you a way to generate points when the offense does get bogged down. In theory this could work, but with so many not real threepoint threats on the roster, adding another high volume guy that doesn't have this, is asking for trouble. The reason DeMar worked in Chicago at some points there, was that their defense was amazing for a decent stretch, with Lonzo and Caruso carrying and everybody locked in. The Kings have none of that, they used to have Davion Mitchell, but he is with the Raptors now and only Keon Ellis and Keegan Murray are basically the most positive defenders left. 2. The West has become a lot better. Giving the example of the Spurs in the video, that team is legit. Same for the Trailblazers, they are a strong team now. Those 2 teams are supposed to be the worst in the conference and they are basically just solid teams with a lot of talent. If your team stays the same, you could probably still compete, but with so many guys underperforming sacramento actually got worse, while the rest has become better. It is not surprising to me that the Kings can't coast through easy matchups anymore, as there basically aren't any left. 3. The season is still very early. It is not a good sign if you are struggling already, but that has to do with your whole team (minus Monk, Sabonis and Fox) underperforming. Their supporting cast isn't as deep to begin with, but they are also playing a lot worse than their career averages, or at least the averages from 2 years ago, when they were at their strongest. This is actually hopeful, as if they uptick again to their normal state, the Kings should at least be somewhat competative. They would still be a flawed team, but at the very least they would always have a chance. ----- It is disappointing, especially for Kings fans, that they were a quality team only a few seasons ago, only to completely falter right now. But they are 9 and 12, which isn't unsalvagable at all. At least their big 3, Fox, Sabonis and Monk are healthy, as is Keegan Murray. (for whenever he comes back to his old self) DeMar is now also a quality option to have. If he isn't overtasked and plays a specific role (ie: score the ball when the offense isn't rolling or at the end of possessions) he could add something to this mix that is sorely needed right now. Compared to the Pelicans however, this is not nearly as bad. The Pelicans have lost 9 in a row now and still no sign of their most important 3 players being back (Ingram, Zion and Herb Jones). This conference is a bloodbath. Even though their games were way more competative than their record suggests, without a lead star or their defensive anchor they aren't going to win many games. So keep your head up Kings fans, it can always get worse.
@@matheuscouri2225 Thanks, but I did like the insight in the video. I just tried to put it back into what I thought was the basics. Hopefully Kings fans can correct me if I made some wrong assumptions.
There’s a lot of issues I’ve noticed since watching every game: 1. Keegan mf Murray 2. Kevin mf Huerter 3. Trey mf Lyles 4. No size off the bench 5. Mike Brown learning about trash ass rotations from Steve Kerr 6. Devin Carter’s injury 7. Only 3-4 defenders we can consistently trust on that end
Not really. They’ve made an emphasize to have a faster pace and were working on it all off season. Don’t forgot one of the slowest players in the nba (vucecic) is still on the team. One player doesn’t make as big of a change as people like to make it seem
They are actually not bad. They are watchable. West is just loaded, massive amount of good teams. There would be even more, if not that injuriy plague from Pels.
@@joshuahodge8804 Well, I see it's hard for you to understand what I said. Sometimes relative quality and absolute quality are different things, you know. Btw, Kings are 13th in the NBA by net rating, according to dunksandthrees. So no, they are not "bad".
@@ChesterAlexanderCarpio you just named a bunch of great teams. if you make it to the nba youre a top 0.0000000000000000001% player. even ben simmons is miles better at basketball then you chester. hes a great player in absolute.
The kings did try to get siakam. He said he wouldnt re sign. They were in a tough spot regardless of what they did because they haven’t hit on many draft picks in the last 5 years and the ones they have are just okay/really good. No mvp level players
@nathandrabing5942 Interesting considering Halliburton has fallen off a cliff and even the East the Pacers are mid. The Kings nor Pacers are going to win a championship the next 5 years so the trade is ultimately meaningless.
Nah Keegan’s still getting his shots, thing is he’s shooting something like 19% on open 3’s this year. Add to that Huerter shooting 20% from 3 the last 10 games and that’s why they’re mid. If their shooters can legit just get back to league average they’ll be fine.
The switching really hurt them last night with the Spurs. Especially in the 4th quarter, Wemby just kept getting smaller guards switched on to him, allowing him easy shots, easy drives to the rim, and easy passes to perimeter shooters.
The kings messed up so bad. The raptors wanted Keegan Murray. The kings said he was untouchable in any OG or pascal siakam trade. OG would fit perfect nest to these guys: pascal to, but to a lesser extent, remember your untouchable future star? Keegan? How’s that looking now? The kings will do king things. It was only a matter of time before it all fell apart…. Again
i said right when this trade happened that their offense might get better, but that’s a big maybe because their spacing was gonna get worse, and that their defense would definitely suffer immensely. and that’s a defense that was already bad
biggest gripe i have so far is honestly for keegan, and it's not even the stats. i can excuse the shots not landing, especially the 3s. it's the lack of (or at least inconsistent signs) aggression. i'm all for the blank stare personality and everything, but after watching almost every Kings game since his rookie year, he's at his best when he's moving with urgency, taking it to the rim, or taking the 3 right off the pass. i don't know if that's a coaching thing where he's just not being asked to it, but dude constantly looks like he's still timid when it comes to offensive side
As a Kings fan we’ve definitely had a disappointing start but it’s literally all to do with our 3 point shooting. Everyone not named Sabonis or Ellis has regressed massively, and not just to league average but to high 20% kinda numbers from 3. There’s no way this trend should continue and we should atleast bounce back up to league average. Defensively we’ve actually been okay, around 15th in defensive rating but we over help too much and leave shooters open to often, MB has to find a balance between stacking the paint and closing out on shooters in our scheme. I don’t know if we make the playoffs but we should get back into the race at some point. Oh and our bench has been dogshit, a trade at the deadline for some wing depth is definitely much needed.
Been a big fan of Keegan since he was drafted. I have had him on my fantasy season every year, and traded him at the start of the season. Derozan was not a good pick up and him dominating the ball isnt helping Keegan improve.
Well part of that is because of the player sabonis is. As a center he can't play defense and he can't make threes to make up for it. He puts a ceiling on his teams
The Kings overperformed for 1 season 2 years ago and everybody kept overrating them. They were not good last season and that is putting it quite nicely. The Derozan trade was clearly not the right move and that was pretty predictable. It is not really a surprise to see them where they are considering how strong the west is and that there are at least 7-8 teams in the west that are clearly better than them.
I don't think they over preformed. They just didn't get any better year 2 while everyone else got better. Then feeling the pressure they made some changes that don't fit with what made them great in that first Season
I think it would be good of them to trade for Dorian Finney smith and like a back up center like the back up center for the hornets or try trading for Bobby portis
As a Laker fan, I'd rather be in the Kings position over whatever dumpster fire the Lakers are in. Yeah, the Kings aren't playing great, but they can do at least the bare minimum, something the Lakers can't
Kings best bet is to tank just this season, because if they don't and get high enough in the standings, they will get NO DRAFT pick because of the ATL Huerter situation. Secure a top 10 pick, and try to compete next season.
the kings aren't anywhere close to as bad as people think. slow start, but i've seen flashes of what this team is truly capable of and they're gonna make some noise fr
we needs to stop using "super star" for every good player. trae young and fox are a good example of good players that will never lead you to a championship.
Fox literally never had a competent team around him not ONCE 😂 Don’t even lump one of the best two-way guards in the league in with inefficient and no defense Trae tf you on about casual
@Weather_Nerd stfu thinking you know shit, they basic one way players, if you want be a blind fan, do you. If im a casual then wtf are u. Get them out your mounth and watch the games.
that team here is no rim protection & they need nic claxton or jonathan issac guy because they need more defense edit: why did they sign only no defense kevin heurter & trey lyes us ass mike brown should never be fired he not the issue the front office fault
The "playoffs" do not define a player entire career DeRozan is not an overrated player 💀no one has ever had in my top of the league conservations you guys just be throwing that word around 😂Is T-Mac overrated because he under performed in the playoffs?? These casual ass takes are annoying as hell.
None of you people actually watch the bulls 😂😂🤣 talking about they're better now lmao I'm a big fan and I can tell you myself thats bullshit 💀💀the offense is faster but then on defense they give up the same amount of points😂💀
Kings messed up trading by getting rid of Barnes lol. Barnes added better floor spacing, unlike Derozn. Kings fans are in denial about Derozan and it's hilarious how much they will double down on their mistakes😆😂. Kings fans are🤡
The real issue isn't the starting 5, it's Keegan Murrays AWFUL production, AND THE LACK OF BENCH, bench is god awful. This is NOT Derozans fault.
We say this for every Derozan team but the reality is, there’s a reason why he’s the worst performing playoff player of all time and why every fanbase is glad to see him gone from their team.
Great dude but he caps your ceiling as a team.
Hard disagree. They could’ve gotten quality role players instead of DeRozan. They could’ve gotten a legit rim protector instead of DeRozan. This is absolutely on him (or at least on the front office for getting him)😊
Yup I like DeRozan style of play during regular season. But yeah they could have gotten 2 good support players instead especially during when Murray is cold. Which happens a lot.
@@sgrey9181 you didnt disagree at all lmfao. you admited that its the front office fault not derozans.
@@sgrey9181 Or maybe just maybe if Huerter was worth a shit, or if Keegan did something offensively, or if anyone off the bench contributed besides Monk, OR OR OR OR OR I could go on for days.
Their depth is nearly nonexistent! All offense in the starting lineup but they need a starter in at all times to stay in games.
They put Monk in the starting line up?
"They need a starter in at all time to stay in games" literally every team ever, that is not the issue, what championship team ran a full bench unit in the finals
@@Vyuellmao exactly I think he meant they need one of their stars in at all times
There's a couple of things that are happening right now.
1. The Sacramento Kings were a bit of a flawed team to begin with and relied on a very smooth, quick paced offense to generate open threepointers and layups out of multiple quick actions. The only reason they were succesful was by outscoring teams and just having a great offense and relying on solid guardplay from Fox and Monk to close out games. When the 3 pointer isn't falling and the offense bogs down, the team isn't doing anything that outstanding anymore.
Adding basically only DeMar DeRozan to that mix doesn't really help much, although it gives you a way to generate points when the offense does get bogged down. In theory this could work, but with so many not real threepoint threats on the roster, adding another high volume guy that doesn't have this, is asking for trouble. The reason DeMar worked in Chicago at some points there, was that their defense was amazing for a decent stretch, with Lonzo and Caruso carrying and everybody locked in. The Kings have none of that, they used to have Davion Mitchell, but he is with the Raptors now and only Keon Ellis and Keegan Murray are basically the most positive defenders left.
2. The West has become a lot better. Giving the example of the Spurs in the video, that team is legit. Same for the Trailblazers, they are a strong team now. Those 2 teams are supposed to be the worst in the conference and they are basically just solid teams with a lot of talent. If your team stays the same, you could probably still compete, but with so many guys underperforming sacramento actually got worse, while the rest has become better. It is not surprising to me that the Kings can't coast through easy matchups anymore, as there basically aren't any left.
3. The season is still very early. It is not a good sign if you are struggling already, but that has to do with your whole team (minus Monk, Sabonis and Fox) underperforming. Their supporting cast isn't as deep to begin with, but they are also playing a lot worse than their career averages, or at least the averages from 2 years ago, when they were at their strongest. This is actually hopeful, as if they uptick again to their normal state, the Kings should at least be somewhat competative. They would still be a flawed team, but at the very least they would always have a chance.
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It is disappointing, especially for Kings fans, that they were a quality team only a few seasons ago, only to completely falter right now. But they are 9 and 12, which isn't unsalvagable at all. At least their big 3, Fox, Sabonis and Monk are healthy, as is Keegan Murray. (for whenever he comes back to his old self) DeMar is now also a quality option to have. If he isn't overtasked and plays a specific role (ie: score the ball when the offense isn't rolling or at the end of possessions) he could add something to this mix that is sorely needed right now.
Compared to the Pelicans however, this is not nearly as bad. The Pelicans have lost 9 in a row now and still no sign of their most important 3 players being back (Ingram, Zion and Herb Jones). This conference is a bloodbath. Even though their games were way more competative than their record suggests, without a lead star or their defensive anchor they aren't going to win many games. So keep your head up Kings fans, it can always get worse.
This comment is actually better than the video
@@matheuscouri2225 Thanks, but I did like the insight in the video. I just tried to put it back into what I thought was the basics. Hopefully Kings fans can correct me if I made some wrong assumptions.
Damn thats alot. But good.
There’s a lot of issues I’ve noticed since watching every game:
1. Keegan mf Murray
2. Kevin mf Huerter
3. Trey mf Lyles
4. No size off the bench
5. Mike Brown learning about trash ass rotations from Steve Kerr
6. Devin Carter’s injury
7. Only 3-4 defenders we can consistently trust on that end
It’s crazy how fast the Bulls offense is this season with DeRozan gone
DeRozan is a good scorer , but his teams always lose ! DeRozan seems soft and doesn't play D !
He should be the 6th man on the contender with trash bench
Not really. They’ve made an emphasize to have a faster pace and were working on it all off season. Don’t forgot one of the slowest players in the nba (vucecic) is still on the team. One player doesn’t make as big of a change as people like to make it seem
They are 9-13 buddy, chill
@@MoralesCorner faster offense automatically makes them win more games?? You’re not making any sense buddy. It’s still the bulls.
If keegan Murray preformed to expectations we wouldn't be having this discussion
That was going to be my comment…
Y'all drafted him at the age where he was as good as he's ever gonna be, it's a skill issue for the Sac front office
@@taylorsilver2566never realized this. So there’s sadly a good chance that his rookie season is the best he’ll ever be.
@@taylorsilver2566 he improved in other areas while getting worse at his best skill idk who can predict that
It’s so bad right now ,our gm won’t draft anyone that isn’t a 6’2 guard and we have no bench .
Def not derozans fault have you seen Keegan Murray and Kevin huerters massive fall off in shooting?
I guess ATL wasn't so crazy dumping Huerter...
Blatantly obvious this guy doesn’t actually watch games
you don’t watch games stfu
They are actually not bad. They are watchable. West is just loaded, massive amount of good teams. There would be even more, if not that injuriy plague from Pels.
If the competition is better than them then they are bad… it’s not that hard to understand 💀
@@joshuahodge8804 Well, I see it's hard for you to understand what I said. Sometimes relative quality and absolute quality are different things, you know. Btw, Kings are 13th in the NBA by net rating, according to dunksandthrees. So no, they are not "bad".
@@williamblake7386 if they were “good” they’d be winning more. Hope that helps lmao
They are bad. If your team is losing games against Raptors, Blazers, and Nets, then you're bad. Very bad.
@@ChesterAlexanderCarpio you just named a bunch of great teams. if you make it to the nba youre a top 0.0000000000000000001% player. even ben simmons is miles better at basketball then you chester. hes a great player in absolute.
As a kings fan you perfectly summed it up and in a non-defamatory way. We suck lol.
Adding Derozan did nothing to help them as a matter of fact they got horrible defensively.
The kings did try to get siakam. He said he wouldnt re sign. They were in a tough spot regardless of what they did because they haven’t hit on many draft picks in the last 5 years and the ones they have are just okay/really good. No mvp level players
Damn, you saying kings lost Haliburton AND Siakam? Pacers stay winning on that trade...
@@nathandrabing5942are we watching Halliburton play rn😭
@nathandrabing5942 Interesting considering Halliburton has fallen off a cliff and even the East the Pacers are mid. The Kings nor Pacers are going to win a championship the next 5 years so the trade is ultimately meaningless.
Our gm is so dumb drafting 6 ft guards when we know we need athletic wings is the biggest detriment to this team
I traded away Keegan Murray in my dynasty league yesterday.
Most concerning thing is Murray regressing instead of taking a jump although getting demar probably a key reason why
Nah Keegan’s still getting his shots, thing is he’s shooting something like 19% on open 3’s this year.
Add to that Huerter shooting 20% from 3 the last 10 games and that’s why they’re mid. If their shooters can legit just get back to league average they’ll be fine.
The switching really hurt them last night with the Spurs. Especially in the 4th quarter, Wemby just kept getting smaller guards switched on to him, allowing him easy shots, easy drives to the rim, and easy passes to perimeter shooters.
That is the coaching staff's fault to make that decision to switch.
@@TheMilitiaGuy Coaching staff or not, the switching still hurt them alot.
The kings messed up so bad. The raptors wanted Keegan Murray. The kings said he was untouchable in any OG or pascal siakam trade. OG would fit perfect nest to these guys: pascal to, but to a lesser extent, remember your untouchable future star? Keegan? How’s that looking now? The kings will do king things. It was only a matter of time before it all fell apart…. Again
i said right when this trade happened that their offense might get better, but that’s a big maybe because their spacing was gonna get worse, and that their defense would definitely suffer immensely. and that’s a defense that was already bad
Cool video. I’ve been impressed with Monk lately. K Murray hopefully starts hitting more shots . Thanks ! 🏀
biggest gripe i have so far is honestly for keegan, and it's not even the stats. i can excuse the shots not landing, especially the 3s. it's the lack of (or at least inconsistent signs) aggression. i'm all for the blank stare personality and everything, but after watching almost every Kings game since his rookie year, he's at his best when he's moving with urgency, taking it to the rim, or taking the 3 right off the pass. i don't know if that's a coaching thing where he's just not being asked to it, but dude constantly looks like he's still timid when it comes to offensive side
Demar derozen still good. But he dont shot three's, in today nba u gotta shot them.
Honestly, I still think this team can turn it around.
Great video man, but you should talk a bit slower, its a bit annoying to get all that info so fast
As a Kings fan we’ve definitely had a disappointing start but it’s literally all to do with our 3 point shooting.
Everyone not named Sabonis or Ellis has regressed massively, and not just to league average but to high 20% kinda numbers from 3. There’s no way this trend should continue and we should atleast bounce back up to league average.
Defensively we’ve actually been okay, around 15th in defensive rating but we over help too much and leave shooters open to often, MB has to find a balance between stacking the paint and closing out on shooters in our scheme.
I don’t know if we make the playoffs but we should get back into the race at some point.
Oh and our bench has been dogshit, a trade at the deadline for some wing depth is definitely much needed.
Better content than ESPN
Been a big fan of Keegan since he was drafted. I have had him on my fantasy season every year, and traded him at the start of the season. Derozan was not a good pick up and him dominating the ball isnt helping Keegan improve.
Like the channel bro
Man i swear demar is cursed his team is never good enough to get over the hump smh
Well part of that is because of the player sabonis is. As a center he can't play defense and he can't make threes to make up for it. He puts a ceiling on his teams
Massive?, yk what else is massive?😏
Derozan is the issue he has to dominate the ball to contribute
The Kings overperformed for 1 season 2 years ago and everybody kept overrating them. They were not good last season and that is putting it quite nicely. The Derozan trade was clearly not the right move and that was pretty predictable. It is not really a surprise to see them where they are considering how strong the west is and that there are at least 7-8 teams in the west that are clearly better than them.
I don't think they over preformed. They just didn't get any better year 2 while everyone else got better. Then feeling the pressure they made some changes that don't fit with what made them great in that first Season
I think it would be good of them to trade for Dorian Finney smith and like a back up center like the back up center for the hornets or try trading for Bobby portis
They need an athletic big power forward that can make a statement in some games and can hustle. Now good luck finding that 😅
As a Laker fan, I'd rather be in the Kings position over whatever dumpster fire the Lakers are in. Yeah, the Kings aren't playing great, but they can do at least the bare minimum, something the Lakers can't
U sound dumb, lakers won a ring 4 years ago, kings lost to a pelicans play in team…
Plus the lakers 12-9, kings are 10-12, what can the kings do the lakers can’t?
Kings best bet is to tank just this season, because if they don't and get high enough in the standings, they will get NO DRAFT pick because of the ATL Huerter situation. Secure a top 10 pick, and try to compete next season.
Sabonis and Fox are wasting their time in Sacramento. Not a good 3pt team, and yet brought Derozan to make it worse.
Boneheaded GM
Bro if this team had Giannis they would be so cracked
Should’ve traded for Zach LaVine
Free my guy Fox bruh, he deserves so much better
the kings aren't anywhere close to as bad as people think. slow start, but i've seen flashes of what this team is truly capable of and they're gonna make some noise fr
I might be biased as a kings fan but if our shooters can legit just get back to league average from 3 I really think we’ll be fine.
Kings need defense. Derozan trade did not help the defense.
Mic sounds good
whats your thoughts on the raptors they're in a really weird position I feel like
Thought this was a Ninja video by the title
Jae Crowder will carry us to the championship
we needs to stop using "super star" for every good player. trae young and fox are a good example of good players that will never lead you to a championship.
Fox literally never had a competent team around him not ONCE 😂 Don’t even lump one of the best two-way guards in the league in with inefficient and no defense Trae tf you on about casual
You want Fox to avg 32ppg with no spacing because NONE of his 3pt shooters can do their job? Checks out.
@Weather_Nerd stfu thinking you know shit, they basic one way players, if you want be a blind fan, do you. If im a casual then wtf are u. Get them out your mounth and watch the games.
that team here is no rim protection & they need nic claxton or jonathan issac guy because they need more defense
edit: why did they sign only no defense kevin heurter & trey lyes us ass
mike brown should never be fired he not the issue the front office fault
Trade Keegan Murray to the Spurs
Just shows you have to play D. Doesn’t matter who you got on the roster
They can't shoot or defend threes in the big year of 2024. 11th seed ass team even with the talent
They were like ahead of the Rockets what happened lmao Kings will be Kings I guess
Thanks for give us a pick and Barnes, WC Player of the Week. And in the 2025 Draft Spurs could have 2-4 FRP. Two could be lottery picks.
I like Monk , but he seems to get hurt alot !
Bros thin
derozan has a negative plus minus in the playoffs for his career, he's bad. Never seen players more overrated than him and julius randle
The "playoffs" do not define a player entire career DeRozan is not an overrated player 💀no one has ever had in my top of the league conservations you guys just be throwing that word around 😂Is T-Mac overrated because he under performed in the playoffs?? These casual ass takes are annoying as hell.
McGrady is in the hall of fame and has no business there. Yes, he is overrated.
This team is really cursed smh
None of you people actually watch the bulls 😂😂🤣 talking about they're better now lmao I'm a big fan and I can tell you myself thats bullshit 💀💀the offense is faster but then on defense they give up the same amount of points😂💀
you talk too fast too spazzed out
deaaron fox to houston please
Nah
Breathe a little bro. Lol. You're racing through your points...not even really explaining anything.
😔
0:37 WTF did I just hear
They wasted last year using their cap space to just re-sign Sabonis who had one year left and i think Barnes.
Man, I told y'all adding DeMar to the mix will not provide any difference for Sacramento.
The massive mistake is trading for Sabonis as your center. You can’t have a center with no rim defense unless it’s Jokic
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Just got new headphones, mic sounds great 👍
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Fire Monte McNair and fire Mike brown, also fox can definitely be the best player in a contending team
NBA wants parody b/c NBA is $$$. The Tribe has screwed pro sports and society in general.
Kings messed up trading by getting rid of Barnes lol. Barnes added better floor spacing, unlike Derozn. Kings fans are in denial about Derozan and it's hilarious how much they will double down on their mistakes😆😂. Kings fans are🤡
Didnt Derozan choose SAC because he felt they were a serious contender unlike LA? lol 🤡