OLD I.R.T LINES MOVIE FOOTAGE ,1940'S-70'S NYC..
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- The subway system of N.Y.C consisted of 3 major divisions. The I.R.T , THE B.M.T,and THE I.N.D LINES. This movie follows the I.R.T division. As with most of the subway lines after leaving the main downtown district of N.Y.C , some lines would come out onto outdoor trackage , which is a welcomed relief , knowing that a whole movie based on just dull underground footage is almost an immediate turn-off. MAKE THIS A PART OF YOUR PLAYLIST !
I love these old Subway cars. But a lot of rail fans do not realize how hard the Motorman, Conductors, Change Makers had to work in those days. 12 hour 80 hour work week. Thank God for Michael Quill and the Transport Workers Union Local 100.
The bus drivers had to make change and drive the bus at the same time. Don't ask me how they were able to do that especially since the older GM buses didn't have power steering. They had to deal with taking the change out of the Johnson farebox and load it into their coin changer while keeping their eyes on the road and at the end of the run they had to read and record the farebox counters and turn in the money at the end of their shift. The motormen and conductors on the subway had to deal with a lot of old equipment some of which forced the conductor to stand outside between the cars to open and close the doors in all kinds of bad weather. The old cars frequently broke down and were very hot in the summer and sometimes cold in the winter when the heat didn't work.
@1400deadwood I remember Michael Quill, he infamously said to reporters: "...the judge can drop dead in his black robe." However a few days later he was dead. I think they named a bus depot after him, its somewhere in Manhattan.
@@Woodrow3170 I remember the city putting Quill in the old Civil Jail for 10 days for not calling off the 66’ strike. He passed shortly after being released. He gave his life for his union members. He also set in motion better pay, health and retirement benefits for all city unions. Because of Mike’s sacrifice all city workers earn a living wage to this day!
Also a shame that the 3rd Ave line was torn down. What a value it would have been today!
This is so precious.
It brings me back to my childhood. I never thought I would ever see any of this again.
Every single image is just spellbinding. Remember the old rattan, woven subway seats? When were they from and when were they gone?
Yep, me too. When I was a kid there were a lot of "newer" cars around like the R10's, R12's, R14's, 15's 16's and I remember when the brand new R32's came on line. I didn't care much for the R32's when they first came out but in later years I came to appreciate them. But when i was a kid there was a lot of "older" rolling stock such as the Low_V's, some of the really early composite body cars running in Brooklyn, and of course a lot of R1's and the old BMT Type D Triplex. Thank God the MTA & the Transit Museum had the decency to preserve many of the old cars and still run them on special excursion trips or the R1's - R9's holiday special.
I went to Coney Island Yard for 75th Anniversary and they ran the Diamond Jubilee with those seats. I asked the conductor the same question. He said vandals started cutting them up in the '50s.
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Wow Gun Hill Road still looks the same lol.
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Thanks! Born in NYC. Grandparents lived in Parkchester. Visited them often. High points were always going downtown on the Subway. Had my own Union Dime Savings Bank Subway Map which I poured over from about age 8. By age 12 I was allowed to go on my own (believe it or not). Use to leave in the morning and go all over the city, including riding the Staten Island Ferry, spending the whole.day. Your anecdoted films brought this all back for me and I deeply appreciate it!
Disable youtube video stabilization olease, it destroy the video
It's a shame that these old cars were vandalized so badly. They should have stored them in a safer place, away from the easily accessible Concourse yard.
Which safer place
Thank you +Frankly Speaking Michael Quill was a great Irishman, helped fight for Irish Independence and was a legendary union figure in NYC. The Brothers and Sisters working for the MTA owe a lot to that man.
I'm an 80's baby. The oldest cars I remember riding in were the old the pre-overhauled R33 "Redbirds" on the IRT 2 Train line. No AC, just fans in the ceiling. They had the old roll destination signs and the side and end door window panes used to slide down for ventilation.
That would be a R21/R22 with a drop sash end door window.
@@kevinwong6588 The r21/r22 never received the Redbird overhaul. They were scrapped before right before that. But I know the r22 was run on the 7th ave line and I remember riding on them, maybe they weren't painted red? My memory may be running all the R2x series together in my brain.
@@RellyOhBoy Might been mixed in the same train, hence confusion.
@@kevinwong6588 On the Broadway line, if an older R12 was in the middle of the train, would push against an R21. For that reason, they were often the lead car. But if an R 21 was at the front, I would open the window in summer for 30mph "air conditioning". As for Relly's post, I started riding the 1 train in 1967. Never saw anything older than an R12 unless I rode on the Third Ave El. The Third Ave El was featured in the 1967 movie "Enter Laughing", where the story takes place in the 1930s .
@@mossmiller The R12/14 were often found at the ends of trains since their caps and triggers were not allowed to be used as door controls once they were moved to the IRT mainlines from the Flushing line in the 1960s after the Flushing line got new World's Fair cars. The only exception was the Bowling Green-South Ferry shuttle which ran two car trains of modified R12 cars.
Thanks for showing me what the 125th stop looked like...not much has changed...except the buildings. Some gone, new ones up (not to my liking). That's where I grew up! Love this channel!👍🚃🚃🚃
back then they were 3 car trains today they are 10 car trains # SignOfTheTimes
I love this. Kept wishing my elder brother were still alive to watch. He was a huge rail fan!
Great retrospective of the System in that era; the Narrator really knows his stuff! I've got a couple of Diamond Jubilee Tokens; one with the "diamond" cut out and the other with it filled in. Never got to actually ride the Jubilee train. Sad what happened to that train, as showed at the end of the film.
Yes it is sad. Narrator, with stiff N.Y. accent, does know his shit!! Never rode that Jubilee train either..
Very interesting stuff. Too bad there wasn't HD video in the 1940s and 1950s!
There was no video in those years.
Superb output, so much effort must've been devoted to such an informative narration.
This is fantastic. I’m a Brooklyn kid from mid 60’s. I could watch all day
Many thanx for the great video. Pity that a couple of the old IRT cars in the museum couldn't be restored and run on the subways system for special occasions.
I grew up a few hundred feet from that spot (1:47) where the train would enter the tunnel on the downtown side (left) and exit on the uptown side heading toward the 125th St. station, the overhead video was taken from 123rd St. and Broadway...about 2 blocks to the right (not in view of course) was my Elementary School - PS 125M, the school has been renamed and those "clean" tunnel walls are lit up with graffiti today.
I can only imagine these trains must have had a beautiful DC motor sound. The closest thing I can think of are A1 trains of the Berlin Elevated in Germany, built in the 1910s. They ran until around 1992.
-> ua-cam.com/video/e0qJbPegxoo/v-deo.html
From a technical point of view, the IRT and the Berlin Elevated are very similar.
If you are more into how thos motors sounded, this could be interesting as well:
-> ua-cam.com/video/HxklxEqCMtM/v-deo.html
That's a train from the 1920s. Those were refurbished countless times because they couldn't buy new trains due to political circumlocutions (remember, the iron curtain ran right through Berlin). Those were in regular service until 2004 or so. Technologically, this train is more akin to the BMT/IND ones.
ua-cam.com/video/Y_x8B6vViu8/v-deo.html
This is a "Sprague-Thomson" on the Paris Metro. I don't know how old that one is, but I would guess the 1920s.
Generally, the bigger cities in Europe tend keep one train of each generation in working order.
Very nice footage.....This is like a time capsule.... :-)...Thanks for posting, please post more if available.......
The oldest cars I remember were R32s. Even I was born in 2007.
I grew up in the Bronx in the 60’s and 70’s. Lived near the Pelham Bay Line near St. Lawrence. I remember the white strap hangers. I also remember the D train still had some old cars that had rattan seats and ceiling fans.
Nevin Reid , I used to work in Castle Hill at a Chinese take-out restaurant, when I was in high school. They hired American girls to take the orders in the front of the restaurant. They had the best Cantonese food I’ve ever had.
Nevin Reid , It was called Sung On, I don’t think it’s there anymore. It was run by two couples I think they came from Hong Kong. Both families had four boys and I think that’s why they hired American girls to take the orders as they didn’t have daughters and that was considered to be something girls would do. They were very nice people. My first job and the perks (free Chinese food) were great.
This is an extraordinary compilation. The narration is so thorough and magnificent. I loved riding the subways as a kid in the 1950s and the historic information in such factual detail here brings it all back. This is a scholarly work - so amazing.
this was amazing. I really enjoyed this video,brought back memories!
ANYONE remembers riding on the IRT to the Polo Grounds?
No, too early for me...We rode the IND "D"Train to the Polo Grounds, got off @ 155th St/ 8th Ave...Rode those old R-9 cars...Loved them!!!
Never, ever had a chance to ride on IRT Lo-V, or 1937-38 Worlds Fsir Steinway Cars!! Missed out on that!
There's nothing better than immersing yourself in vintage melodies, where everything is gentle and quiet. 🌿
From 6:57 to 9:20 is the IRT No.6 line.
One sweet ride for this old fan of the New York City subway & elevated lines.
Thank You very much for sharing this footage., brought back alot of memories.
The BWAY Line was originally an Express that ran from 96st to South Ferry station in the early 1950s
Hi, I would like to acquire the rights to use parts of this footage. Whom should I contact? Thank you very much.
I remember seeing and riding the R12, 14 & 15 cars in the early 1980's as a kid in Brooklyn, they was replaced with the R62 & R62A cars in mid 1980's and they still run today.
I rode those R-12, R-14 cars on the "7", Flushing Line in Queens.
At 19:32-:39, the narrator is actually describing a Low-V Steinway Coach. No 4048 with a RED LINE under it meant, that it can only be coupled with cars of the same mechanical features.This is very remarkable, fascinating footage. Very informative too.
I have enjoyed watrching this, as well as many of the other films you have presented on the older cars of the IRT, BMT & IND trains, really a labor of love you have there. It brings many memories for me as a kid growing in Brooklyn, just off Euclid Avenue & Liberty Avenue, and Cresent Street. I lived on Hill Street, which ran between Euclid & Cresent St. The Line on the Fulton Street Elevated, where Blessed Sacrament is, my old school, and Liberty Avenue Elevated. Thank you!
Thats,close to my old neck of the woods in E. New York! I was at grandparents near Fulton St, BMT 15/Jamaica Local, Van Siclen Ave Sta. Miller Ave was their street, west end of thev platform!!e's
I feel like this is around the time when the typical 1930s American accent started to change to the New York City accent.
wow. how do you know all the facts? where did you get the film. thanks. this is great
The R12/14/15 did not have headlights as delivered. Around 1960 the TA equipped all the older cars with headlights (even most of the prewar cars still in service such as Lo-V's, Arnines and Standards) for safety reasons allowing track workers to more easily detect the lights of an approaching train. The R22 and all newer cars came with headlights as delivered. Nowadays the rule is that the museum cars which don't have headlights must have temporary lights clamped on so they can be operated as the first car of a train.
Retrofitting of pre-R22 SMEEs with headlamps began around 1958.
Very true, indeed!!
It's very nice video I remember this old trains when I was four five years old as I was riding them
I wish the MTA would’ve kept the Third Av el in the Bronx. I’m sure it would’ve been much better service today versus bus service along Webster and Third Avs.
I remember.
The cars of the Diamond Jubilee train still exist in operating condition today contrary to what the narrator said. One is at the Branford Trolley Museum and the other four still operate on Transit Museum special runs with a trailer car which was originally in the museum when it opened in 1976.
Great video!
Amazing information and very educational!
Excellent knowledge of content
Great videos!!!
In the period when both old and new cars were running on the #1 line, how did the gap fillers at South Ferry handle the different door positions?
Great question.
Thanks! This was awesome.
Fun Fact: The R12’s were they only R type cars that ran on the 3rd Avenue El also the steel trusses with no tracks at the Gun Hill Road station is where the 3rd Avenue El used to go on and then layout north of the station on the lower level and the station was renovated between 2007 and 2008
At the time the video was recorded, the cars were in very sad shape. They were restored in the late 1990's.
Very good Video, thank you! Greetings
And this was before A/C cars....lol Had to open them windows and the middle door for a draft to come in the car.
Is there a DVD available of this? This is excellent.
Wow the redbirds those subway cars were cool at the time but the mta has dumpe them in shallow waters
novalfsa If they have, it's because the old cars serve amazingly well as safe breeding areas for fish. PATH and other services have done likewise. There are some amazing underwater photos around, sort of before and after.
+novalfsa I have a pic of that happening...what a strange thing to do.
Redbirds were just old crappy cars that they rebuilt, put air conditioning in and painted them red.
Great video and narrative. Thanks.
Grew up in the Bronx in the 60s and 70s took the IRT number 6 train. I remember the old cars with the rattan seats and white porcelain strap hangers. Also remember there were vending machines on the platform that sold an individual stick of gum for a penny.
Coke for a dime.
Yes, you were lucky to know/ride those old warriors...I never did.
Same
Great seeing the White Plains trains going into the tunnel at The Hub with some of the original CutOff over it.
Wonderful trip back in time. As a former NYer, I'm just mesmerized by this video.
What a sad end for that gorgeous train 😪
I remember the ROARING sound the single sliding doors would make. An ADVENTURE going to Moshulu Parkway.
Very informative video! Thank you for the upload. There’s no other city like New York!
At 125 st the train comes out of the tunnel for just that station, then right back in
That's right...next station , 137th St., in the subway.
I remember the odd dark red cars on the IRT in 1960s & 70s. I haven't recalled that in decades.
Outstanding video.
Sad, indeed, that those classic train cars were vandalized. I hope those ########## who did it spend a long time in Hell for desecrating them.
This is golden. The narration, beautiful. Zerega on the 6 being my area, glad to have seen some 6 train footage!
161 st thats where i live its so cool to see that from that time
And it should still be there................Everywhere!! FUCK!!
I have been shadow banned, bu is some ever does see this, does anyone remember the old subway cars with the rattan seats? They had a wheel of some type inside that was usually locked. I think it was some type of brake. I used to try and turn them as a kid.
Man, a subway ride in these times was probably 2 cent for one ride 😂😂😂
Thugs ruined History, That make me real mad ! Wonder if they destroy their own homes also.
I remember this day roundly, I watched it live when it happened.
5466 is now at the Shoreline Trolley Museum.
At the 9:21 mark, is there anyway this footage can be restored?
The NY City subway system is mind boggling. I notice no graffiti on the cars. how did that happen? :-)
Stainless steel body cars that hit the seen in the late 70's. Easy to wash off.
Most all this footage was filmed way before graffiti was a habitual problem.
A sad ending to history.
just miss the low v.s
Actually, Car 4048 is a Flivver car.
thanks. iti didn't make sense - had a white line under the window, like a Hi-V Gibbs, but its car number was above 4024 (final Hi-V [Hedley] in the fleet)
4048 was an IRT Flivver. They had Lo-V controls but the old Hi-V braking system.
..Correct!!#
Good video! So glad to see the #2 line featured as so few videos seem to exist showing that line before 1990. The R-17 thru R-36 cars have always been my favorite subway cars, having ridden on them so often back in the day. Was saddening to see the "Red Birds" retired, but am glad that the "Train of Many Colors" is around.
I prefer the r12, very underrated rail car
Wow, long lost films. What a privilege to see them. Thanks!
The trains at that time look like this? I am surprised because I am interested of a subway.
When I was maybe 4-5 years old (late 1950s), my family and I rode on Lo-V car trains. They were gone by the mid 1960s.
+Steven Litvintchouk wow...
At 7:51, the location is actually Sound View Av. (today known as Morrison Av,-Soundview), not St. Lawrence Av.
@Nevin Reid that station was at 8:46 in the video.
BLM GOT TO THAT TRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did the trains all have air conditioning?
One car of the Diamond Jubilee train (5466) went to the Branford museum in Connecticut. The other four motor cars (5290,5292,5443,5483) have operated with trailer 4902 on excursions more recently.
Amazing.
for 1979 the video looks like it was made in 1899! Its terrible!
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As a native new Yorker, this precious. I'm almost 60, so I don't go waaay back but of course I recall IRT, BMT etc. I love the nostalgia of the jubilee train. My fave thing abt trains as a child were the chicklet gum dispensers in the subways. And I always loved the refreshment counter on the tracks, I think it was 42nd. Ah memories!!
Great job on the video. We lived on BMT lines in Brooklyn in the 1960s so seldom rode the IRT. Cannot believe those cars were left to the vandals. Typical MTA mentality. Would have loved video of Chambers St City Hall station which today is often voted worst station in the system
I got to ride the old IRT subway cars as a kid in the 70s. They were very cool. Some had straw woven seats.
Never had the chance to ride those Lo-V/ Hi-V IRT cars! Yes, they had rattan/cane/wicker seats. Oldest Interborough cars I ever rode on were the post-war R-12/R-14 cars, with floutescent lights, fans on stantions, clerestories with honeycomb vents, dynamic braking/SMEE control, etc. They were great!!
Fantastic movie, timeless with classic cars. Had the pleasure of knowing Roger and seeing this movie and many of his other ones at various railfan club shows in person. Roger was tops in this area of the history. He is missed.
wich line ran to yonkers n wich to mount vernon ?
None. This is the about the NYC subway. No service north of the Bronx.
Are you thinking of the New York, Westchester And Boston Railroad that had a brief existence from about 1912 to 1937?.
Probably NYWB (the lower main line is now the 5 Line's Dyre Branch).
Mt Vernon, 5
Yonkers metro north
@@wallcderand6774 iremeber seeing remnants of old l pices inyonkers
cool
WOW! This sure brings back a lot of memories. I remember when the redbirds replaced the low -v's as I went to high school in the Bronx. Thank you.
The stations and stops are the same, wow the two train uptown the Bronx was my train.
Step lively and watch the closing doors please.
Great videos, thank you!
Was Roger aware of the R62/As or no
Gibbs Cars with 2 Hi-V trailers in tandom?
Bring them Back! Bring them Back! Bring them Back!
Clu-RESS-tuh-ree.