Self type Innocent Motto: free to be you and me Core desire : to get to paradise Goal: to be happy Greatest fear : to be punished for doing something wrong or terrible Strategic: to do thing right Weakness: boring for all their naive innocent Talent : faith and optimism The everyman Motto : all man and woman are created equally Core desire: connecting with other Goal : to belong Greatest fear : to be left out or to stand out from the crowd Strategy : developing ordinary solid virtues Weakness: losing one's own self in a effort to blend in or for the sake of superficial relationships Talent : realism , empathy , lacks of pretense Hero Motto: where there's a will , there's a way Core desire: to prove one's worth through courageous acts Goal: expert mastery in a way that improves the world Greatest fear: weakness and vulnerability Strategy: to be as strong and competent as possible Weakness:arrogance, always needing another battle to fight Talent: competence and courage Caregiver Motto: love your neighbor as yourself Core desire: to protect and care other Goal: to help others Greatest fear: selfishness and ingratitude Strategy: doing thing for other Weakness: martyrdom and being exploited Talent: compassion, generosity Soul type Explorer Motto: don't fence me in Core desire: the freedom to find out who you are through exploring the world Goal: to experience a better, more authentic, more fulfilling life Greatest fear: getting trapped, conforming and inner emptiness Strategy: seeking out and experience new thing Weakness:aimless, wandering becomes a misfit Talent: astronomy, ambition, being true to one soul Rebel Motto: ruler are made to be broken Core desire: revenge or revolution Goal: to overturn what isn't working Greatest fear: to be powerless or ineffectual Strategy: disrupt , destroy or shock Weakness: crossing over to the dark side, crime Talent: outrageousness, radical freedom Lover Motto: you're the only one Core desire: intimacy and experience Goal: being in a relationship with the people Greatest fear: being alone , a wallflower, unwanted and unloved Strategy: to become more physically and emotionally attractive Weakness: outward directed desire to please other at risk of losing own individual Talent: passion, gratitude, appreciation and commitment Creator Motto: if you can imagine it, it can be done Core desire: to create thing of enduring value Goal: to realized a vision Greatest fear: mediocre vision or execution Strategy: develop artistic control and skill Weakness: perfectionism, bad solutions Talent: creativity and imagination Self type Jester Motto: you only live once Core desire: to live in the moment with full enjoyment Goal:to have a great time and lighten up the world Greatest fear: being bored or boring other Strategy: play, make jokes, be funny Weakness: frivolity wasting time Talent: joy Sage Motto: the truth will set you free Core desire: to find the truth Goal:to use intelligence and analysis to understand the world Greatest fear: being duped, misled or ignorance Strategy: seeking out information and knowledge, self reflection and understanding thoughts processes Weakness: can study details forever and never act Talent: wisdom and intelligence Magician Motto: I make thing happen Core desire: understanding the fundamental law of the universe Goal: to make dreams come true Greatest fear: unintended negative consequences Strategy: develop a vision and live by it Weakness: become manipulative Talent: finding win solutions Ruler Motto: power isn't everything, it's the only thing Core desire: control Goal: created prosperous, successful family or community Greatest fear: chaos, being overthrown Strategy: exercise power Weakness: being authoritarian, unable to delegate Talent:responsibility and leadership
Ah, yes. "The 12 Jungian Archetypes" made famous by Carl Gustav Jung. He believed that people in our lives fell under one of the 12 types. My advice? Don't settle for a cookie cutout. That's why the video says NOT TO USE THESE personality types. Do you want real-like characters? Well then maybe you should go learn a lot about someone, or write about someone you know best. Maybe yourself? Maybe an idol of yours? When you stop trying to box yourself in, you'll see that people...we're simple in some ways, but inside where everything about them hides or exists...we're complex on the inside. Honestly, I think this is why some people really have a hard time writing compelling characters, because they fall short on actually making them seem real. They settle for a cheat sheet. It's not necessarily wrong to use these, but why would anyone cut corners and try to make it easy when nothing good is easy. We have to work for everything in life; nothing gets handed to us. I'm not trying to make anyone feel bad, so don't get defensive. I'm merely stating the not-so-obvious to those who may see this list as a solution. Remember that this is a list of "types to avoid". If you love your characters, then get to know them. Ask yourself, "Who is this character? What do they want? What are their flaws? What was their past like?" One more thing: if you plan on using a mental illness, or a disorder, or some kind of handicap, etc. DO YOUR RESEARCH. Seriously. For example, I am trans (trans woman) and we've had too many misrepresentations in media. We are always portrayed as the villain, who's perverted, or someone who tricks others. (Honestly, that's because anime has a lot to do with that...It has become a trope that demeans us as nothing more than boys in girls clothes. We are not "traps". No one is trapping anyone into doing anything here. Trans people are actually pretty sensitive when it comes to relationships and we value consensual intimacy as much as anyone empathetic and caring does.) Identity is very important to us, as I'm sure it is for many people in the world. It is NOT A MENTAL ILLNESS, y'all. It's a disorder known as "Gender Incongruence". It is simply a health problem. This was classified by the World Health Organization (WHO), in 2019. Knowing that, you could start easily enough on a trans character. But do your research. Talk to trans people and get their side of the story. Ask them many questions before creating a character out of "inclusivity". Some goes for religion, race, sexual orientation, identity, political affiliation, and anything else you plan on including in your comic. It's important how we portray these characters. Messing this up can be damaging. Your audience absorbs more than you think. Thank you. Much love, y'all. Be safe! Be well! (Is Covid-19 over yet?!)
@@KitKatWiffleBallBat Thank you so much for taking the time to write all of this and share your experience! You have made some VERY strong points! Especially your points centered around inclusivity, diversity, and representation in media! At the end of the day, I hope people can use my advice as a stepping stone. What I say or believe isn't the final say, so I hope people can learn from the 12 Jungian Archetypes, see it for what it is, and make their own reasonable decision about how to build off of it. Thanks again for opening the conversation!
@@MonitorComics Hey, thanks! Yeah, I do a lot of research and I'm often interested in different social perspectives, and honestly, I just like learning about people, like what makes us all click. I really like your channel so far! I haven't started making my comic just yet, as I'm trying to write it out, develop the world, figure out my own creative blend of different time periods and cultures and fuse them together, etc. I'm always trying to learn new stuff and I do value any input/intel I can gather from other creatives who share that same love of storytelling that I do. So yeah, I got some of your videos lined up in my Watch Later playlist, and I plan to watch those when I have some more free time. I'm looking forward to it. Thanks again, M.C.! You take care of yourself, and keep going, keep doing you and all that good stuff. Peace! 🙋🏽♀️
@@KitKatWiffleBallBat You have a really great mindset! Too many times I hear young creatives wanting to skip over all of the hard work and go straight to being magically famous. Researching is definitely key! I think it's SUPER smart that you're spending most of your time PLANNING. It'll save you a ton of headaches later down the line lol I really appreciate the nice words, I'm happy that my videos could be useful! Best of luck with your project! I hope to see you around again!
I think rather than picking any single option in any of these categories, it'd more helpful to do a spider graph, because I know personally I had strong connections to like...ten of the twelve options you listed. More than that, many of these drives _reinforce each other,_ such as my drive to create justice -- so that I can protect those I love -- through judicious use of rules -- so that nobody will stop us from exploring life's possibilities -- and creating beauty for ourselves and others. If you can only pick one of these, you'll probably run afoul of the Barnum Effect, because all of these are themes of human existence that people will probably face _at some point_ in their lives. It's just about _how much weight_ you put into each category.
Well what I did was I got the "Best" Character type from isekai (Shut in gamer loser) and then put him in a world where trucks drive below the speed limit and have multiple fail safes so it always stops when someone crosses the road.
The amount of detail and effort is insane! It's a sin that you are this criminally underrated. I love these insightful videos that help me put into words why a character is good or bad or why I am or am not fond of a particular show and most importantly you use examples from animanga which I'm very familiar with! Thanks a lot again, keep it up. You just gained a new sub
I reccemend picking one that makes you feel attached to the charicter and also adding trauma or using real life experiences to make their thought process and backstory more touching
Woah, so many informations and so relevant bc it is really important for me to make my characters more surprising, not too stereotypical so I guess I need to figure out which personality types they fit into! 🤯
Personally i recommend avoiding the loud mouth/screaming kid type (Deku and Asta come to mind). I find it funny that Deku is supposed to be relatable yet he's everything I can't relate with (at least that's my experience)
Good points! I'd say Deku's relatability ended after episode 2. He's the definition of a kid without a license being gifted a sports car for his birthday and we're supposed to feel bad for him haha
If I'm understanding the video correctly, this video described different archetypes and described that you don't want to a make them one dimensional? Apologies if I misunderstood the video.
Thank you for taking the time to share! Historically I would have to agree with you! Female painters were present since forever, but the art industry was a male-dominated one. Women were forbidden from learning how to formally paint and could only learn from spouses, husbands, fathers, or friends who would volunteer to teach them. Even during the Renaissance, women, artists had to have their male mentors take credit for their work so that it could be sold. Eventually, they had to work under male pen names because art galleries and sellers wouldn't take women artists seriously. Some notable female artists during the Renaissance are Sonfonisba Anguissola, Artemisia Gentileschi, Lavina Fontana, Elizabetta Sirini, Clara Peeters, and Judith Leyster! I only know this much because I've taken a few art history classes in college, one being focused on "women in art" haha. As time went on, women began to gain more rights and were taken more seriously when they could join Artist Guilds, display work at exhibitions and apply to join The Academy It's interesting to see how this narrative sort of flipped in the present day. From personal experience, I've found myself being maybe one of three boys total in a 30 person art class. This has been true throughout my 4 years at an Arts Academy and during my time at university. Presently, subjects are gendered for some reason with STEM fields being predominantly male-driven. Women are often discouraged from pursuing STEM fields and they make up the vast minority of the workforce. As a result of this women are more likely to be urged to pursue more liberal arts careers or lesser STEM fields I only know this bit of information because I've been taking gender studies classes for the past four years lol I agree with what you're saying though. In retrospect, art is not a "female-oriented" field and everyone who wants to pursue it should be allowed to. It's just interesting how throughout history, men dominated the art field, but now in art education classes, it seems like the classrooms are female-dominated. I hope that could clear some things up if I mentioned something about that in the video lol. Feel free to message back, I'd be happy to keep the discussion going. All the best!
@@AjaxDGonzo I feel like "gender ideology" is a bit too serious of a word to describe my views lol. That would imply that I believe in traditional gender roles and sex having some play in how jobs/careers should be distributed. My stance on the matter is that everyone should be free to pursue or do whatever they want to do, regardless of race, gender, sex, ethnicity, etc. That whole ramble was just to support whatever claim I made in the video about women in art haha
Thank you for the video suggestion! Could you be a bit more specific? I currently have videos going over comedy series, shojo, and seinen. Is there a specific genre you are thinking about?
Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment! At the end of the day, it's your work! Everything comes down to execution. Some of my favorite characters fall under this category! As long as it fits your story and it doesn't feel like a knock-off, then you should be good! Best of luck!
@Kuudere fanboy I like your idea too (excluding the dumb ) except in my mind,my main character will be pressed untill he/her question his morality which led to Change of personality like Cruel, pessimist,sadist and ETc
Thank you for the comment! Of course! There's so many character tropes and archetypes out there that make up character personalities, some are bound to overlap!
@@Jesei1211 if its biology then why am i not natrally intrested in beauty or romance? Hobbys dont have genders its the society that enforced those rules.
Remember, take every advice you ever receive with a grain of salt! There are PLENTY of stories that can make these archetypes work well. This video is just my opinion of more recent archetypes that have been a bit overdone! If your story has some of these archetypes, you can make the decision if they are necessary/help your story!
The historic and societal stuff and even some of psychological stuff is just likely plain wrong and not factual. It'd be a great idea to drop the Froyd and pick up the history and science books. "Creative fields" didn't even exist until recently, through most of history they've largely been artisan, or craftsman fields. While there were some notable female artists like poets or musicians in ancient time, the majority of European history had largely men working in artisan and craftsman roles. Not to speak of religious artwork. It'd probably be more accurate to say that women engaging in "creative fields" is actually a more recent development. Hell, not really that long ago it was seen as somewhat uncommon for a woman to be a writer or painter. I don't see where the girl hobby thing comes from. I have a feeling there's slightly more women in university/college level artistic educations and humanities in general, so maybe the misconception that "it's always been that way" comes from there. It's been pretty well established too that gender norms or whatever aren't purely societal constructs due to a male dominated society or whatever. A lot of those came about from womens' own action and preferences, believe it or not. Either way one would be lead to believe it depends more on natural temperament than sex, and the sexes just have different distributions in attributes like empathy, agreeableness etc. It doesn't mean there can't be, and aren't a noticeably large amount of exceptions. It just means >50% conform to some trend. There's actually a larger difference in the sexes' preferences nowadays compared to a few decades ago due to polarization. Not trying to offer some kind of societal critique, just pointing out some things which I don't think are necessarily factual and seem to give off the wrong idea.
This vid is way too high lvl for me, but I think u just dis Hyouka, so * U Well, after spent my time watching the vid I can say that I disagree with your view, since many of these characters could be entertainment to me. But then again, I have sht taste. Seen #12, * U again, have u ever seen the whole series or just take a look and judge.
How men and women should behave ISN'T a man made system. Behaviour that correspond to man/woman is a evolutionary based development that made sure that the human race wasn't going to die out. But now, were fighting for your survival isn't needed anymore (in most countries) it's now the decade of individualism. Just because you as a man, enjoys art, doesn't make art as a subject any less feminine.
But that dosent mean forcing your son to like sports and cars and forcing your daughter to like romance and beauty. People have their own intrests and they shouldnt be repressed just bc someone decided it wasent attractive enough
Really sorry about that! This was one of my older videos where I was just figuring out audio levels. My newer videos are much better audio-wise, I hope this doesn't stop you from checking them out!!
I agree! Can you give me a timestamp to what part you are referring to? I'm a bit confused because I agree with your point, but this video is a few years old so I might've worded something weird
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Self type
Innocent
Motto: free to be you and me
Core desire : to get to paradise
Goal: to be happy
Greatest fear : to be punished for doing something wrong or terrible
Strategic: to do thing right
Weakness: boring for all their naive innocent
Talent : faith and optimism
The everyman
Motto : all man and woman are created equally
Core desire: connecting with other
Goal : to belong
Greatest fear : to be left out or to stand out from the crowd
Strategy : developing ordinary solid virtues
Weakness: losing one's own self in a effort to blend in or for the sake of superficial relationships
Talent : realism , empathy , lacks of pretense
Hero
Motto: where there's a will , there's a way
Core desire: to prove one's worth through courageous acts
Goal: expert mastery in a way that improves the world
Greatest fear: weakness and vulnerability
Strategy: to be as strong and competent as possible
Weakness:arrogance, always needing another battle to fight
Talent: competence and courage
Caregiver
Motto: love your neighbor as yourself
Core desire: to protect and care other
Goal: to help others
Greatest fear: selfishness and ingratitude
Strategy: doing thing for other
Weakness: martyrdom and being exploited
Talent: compassion, generosity
Soul type
Explorer
Motto: don't fence me in
Core desire: the freedom to find out who you are through exploring the world
Goal: to experience a better, more authentic, more fulfilling life
Greatest fear: getting trapped, conforming and inner emptiness
Strategy: seeking out and experience new thing
Weakness:aimless, wandering becomes a misfit
Talent: astronomy, ambition, being true to one soul
Rebel
Motto: ruler are made to be broken
Core desire: revenge or revolution
Goal: to overturn what isn't working
Greatest fear: to be powerless or ineffectual
Strategy: disrupt , destroy or shock
Weakness: crossing over to the dark side, crime
Talent: outrageousness, radical freedom
Lover
Motto: you're the only one
Core desire: intimacy and experience
Goal: being in a relationship with the people
Greatest fear: being alone , a wallflower, unwanted and unloved
Strategy: to become more physically and emotionally attractive
Weakness: outward directed desire to please other at risk of losing own individual
Talent: passion, gratitude, appreciation and commitment
Creator
Motto: if you can imagine it, it can be done
Core desire: to create thing of enduring value
Goal: to realized a vision
Greatest fear: mediocre vision or execution
Strategy: develop artistic control and skill
Weakness: perfectionism, bad solutions
Talent: creativity and imagination
Self type
Jester
Motto: you only live once
Core desire: to live in the moment with full enjoyment
Goal:to have a great time and lighten up the world
Greatest fear: being bored or boring other
Strategy: play, make jokes, be funny
Weakness: frivolity wasting time
Talent: joy
Sage
Motto: the truth will set you free
Core desire: to find the truth
Goal:to use intelligence and analysis to understand the world
Greatest fear: being duped, misled or ignorance
Strategy: seeking out information and knowledge, self reflection and understanding thoughts processes
Weakness: can study details forever and never act
Talent: wisdom and intelligence
Magician
Motto: I make thing happen
Core desire: understanding the fundamental law of the universe
Goal: to make dreams come true
Greatest fear: unintended negative consequences
Strategy: develop a vision and live by it
Weakness: become manipulative
Talent: finding win solutions
Ruler
Motto: power isn't everything, it's the only thing
Core desire: control
Goal: created prosperous, successful family or community
Greatest fear: chaos, being overthrown
Strategy: exercise power
Weakness: being authoritarian, unable to delegate
Talent:responsibility and leadership
Thank you for taking the time to post this! I pinned the comment so this can help others!
Ah, yes. "The 12 Jungian Archetypes" made famous by Carl Gustav Jung. He believed that people in our lives fell under one of the 12 types.
My advice? Don't settle for a cookie cutout. That's why the video says NOT TO USE THESE personality types. Do you want real-like characters? Well then maybe you should go learn a lot about someone, or write about someone you know best. Maybe yourself? Maybe an idol of yours? When you stop trying to box yourself in, you'll see that people...we're simple in some ways, but inside where everything about them hides or exists...we're complex on the inside.
Honestly, I think this is why some people really have a hard time writing compelling characters, because they fall short on actually making them seem real. They settle for a cheat sheet. It's not necessarily wrong to use these, but why would anyone cut corners and try to make it easy when nothing good is easy. We have to work for everything in life; nothing gets handed to us.
I'm not trying to make anyone feel bad, so don't get defensive. I'm merely stating the not-so-obvious to those who may see this list as a solution. Remember that this is a list of "types to avoid". If you love your characters, then get to know them. Ask yourself, "Who is this character? What do they want? What are their flaws? What was their past like?"
One more thing: if you plan on using a mental illness, or a disorder, or some kind of handicap, etc. DO YOUR RESEARCH. Seriously.
For example, I am trans (trans woman) and we've had too many misrepresentations in media. We are always portrayed as the villain, who's perverted, or someone who tricks others. (Honestly, that's because anime has a lot to do with that...It has become a trope that demeans us as nothing more than boys in girls clothes. We are not "traps". No one is trapping anyone into doing anything here. Trans people are actually pretty sensitive when it comes to relationships and we value consensual intimacy as much as anyone empathetic and caring does.) Identity is very important to us, as I'm sure it is for many people in the world. It is NOT A MENTAL ILLNESS, y'all. It's a disorder known as "Gender Incongruence". It is simply a health problem. This was classified by the World Health Organization (WHO), in 2019.
Knowing that, you could start easily enough on a trans character. But do your research. Talk to trans people and get their side of the story. Ask them many questions before creating a character out of "inclusivity". Some goes for religion, race, sexual orientation, identity, political affiliation, and anything else you plan on including in your comic. It's important how we portray these characters. Messing this up can be damaging. Your audience absorbs more than you think.
Thank you. Much love, y'all. Be safe! Be well! (Is Covid-19 over yet?!)
@@KitKatWiffleBallBat Thank you so much for taking the time to write all of this and share your experience! You have made some VERY strong points! Especially your points centered around inclusivity, diversity, and representation in media!
At the end of the day, I hope people can use my advice as a stepping stone. What I say or believe isn't the final say, so I hope people can learn from the 12 Jungian Archetypes, see it for what it is, and make their own reasonable decision about how to build off of it.
Thanks again for opening the conversation!
@@MonitorComics Hey, thanks! Yeah, I do a lot of research and I'm often interested in different social perspectives, and honestly, I just like learning about people, like what makes us all click.
I really like your channel so far! I haven't started making my comic just yet, as I'm trying to write it out, develop the world, figure out my own creative blend of different time periods and cultures and fuse them together, etc.
I'm always trying to learn new stuff and I do value any input/intel I can gather from other creatives who share that same love of storytelling that I do. So yeah, I got some of your videos lined up in my Watch Later playlist, and I plan to watch those when I have some more free time.
I'm looking forward to it. Thanks again, M.C.! You take care of yourself, and keep going, keep doing you and all that good stuff. Peace! 🙋🏽♀️
@@KitKatWiffleBallBat You have a really great mindset! Too many times I hear young creatives wanting to skip over all of the hard work and go straight to being magically famous. Researching is definitely key! I think it's SUPER smart that you're spending most of your time PLANNING. It'll save you a ton of headaches later down the line lol
I really appreciate the nice words, I'm happy that my videos could be useful! Best of luck with your project! I hope to see you around again!
Started really working on my webtoon idea during the corona pandemic, this is really really helping out. better than what I got on skillshare
Oooo i wanna read it now lol
@@wormbag80 posting teasers on ig project_ReDestroy
@@RichardmpayiTnway yay
@@RichardmpayiTnway can’t find u on ig
How did you guess my whole plot in just 43 seconds? IMPOSSIBLE
Lol same here
I think rather than picking any single option in any of these categories, it'd more helpful to do a spider graph, because I know personally I had strong connections to like...ten of the twelve options you listed. More than that, many of these drives _reinforce each other,_ such as my drive to create justice -- so that I can protect those I love -- through judicious use of rules -- so that nobody will stop us from exploring life's possibilities -- and creating beauty for ourselves and others.
If you can only pick one of these, you'll probably run afoul of the Barnum Effect, because all of these are themes of human existence that people will probably face _at some point_ in their lives. It's just about _how much weight_ you put into each category.
Very well said! You make some great points! Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts!
Well what I did was I got the "Best" Character type from isekai (Shut in gamer loser) and then put him in a world where trucks drive below the speed limit and have multiple fail safes so it always stops when someone crosses the road.
LOL Isekai protagonists are punching the air right now
The amount of detail and effort is insane! It's a sin that you are this criminally underrated. I love these insightful videos that help me put into words why a character is good or bad or why I am or am not fond of a particular show and most importantly you use examples from animanga which I'm very familiar with! Thanks a lot again, keep it up. You just gained a new sub
Im trying to figure out a personality for my main character lol
Same
I reccemend picking one that makes you feel attached to the charicter and also adding trauma or using real life experiences to make their thought process and backstory more touching
Same, I think I got i gist of it, but it’s lacking something
Faaaacts
Look up personality traits and mix some interesting ones together.
For example, honest and mischievous.
Great Archetype break down
Thank you for the comment! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
It's always a pleasure to listen to your ideas!
Thank you so much Milli! I really enjoyed your content too! The comics community can always use more voices!
Woah, so many informations and so relevant bc it is really important for me to make my characters more surprising, not too stereotypical so I guess I need to figure out which personality types they fit into! 🤯
3:53 Eren is quite literally striving for paradis(e)
Personally i recommend avoiding the loud mouth/screaming kid type (Deku and Asta come to mind). I find it funny that Deku is supposed to be relatable yet he's everything I can't relate with (at least that's my experience)
Good points! I'd say Deku's relatability ended after episode 2. He's the definition of a kid without a license being gifted a sports car for his birthday and we're supposed to feel bad for him haha
Really good idea to think it like that, didn't really thought about it that way. 🤔
I’m surprised you didn’t mention Persona as it embodies this concept into its story and gameplay
Unfortunately, I haven't played any of the games yet, but I have heard great thing about them!
I think you'd love them. While the writing is not perfect, they do have good story@@MonitorComics
@@stonalisa3729I definitely will give it a shot soon! Maybe even in a stream so i can capture my live reactions!
If I'm understanding the video correctly, this video described different archetypes and described that you don't want to a make them one dimensional? Apologies if I misunderstood the video.
You got it, That is the gist of it!
I don’t think arts was seen as a female thing at all, it was still male dominated. It’s hard to think of famous female Renaissance painters.
Thank you for taking the time to share! Historically I would have to agree with you! Female painters were present since forever, but the art industry was a male-dominated one. Women were forbidden from learning how to formally paint and could only learn from spouses, husbands, fathers, or friends who would volunteer to teach them.
Even during the Renaissance, women, artists had to have their male mentors take credit for their work so that it could be sold. Eventually, they had to work under male pen names because art galleries and sellers wouldn't take women artists seriously. Some notable female artists during the Renaissance are Sonfonisba Anguissola, Artemisia Gentileschi, Lavina Fontana, Elizabetta Sirini, Clara Peeters, and Judith Leyster!
I only know this much because I've taken a few art history classes in college, one being focused on "women in art" haha. As time went on, women began to gain more rights and were taken more seriously when they could join Artist Guilds, display work at exhibitions and apply to join The Academy
It's interesting to see how this narrative sort of flipped in the present day. From personal experience, I've found myself being maybe one of three boys total in a 30 person art class. This has been true throughout my 4 years at an Arts Academy and during my time at university.
Presently, subjects are gendered for some reason with STEM fields being predominantly male-driven. Women are often discouraged from pursuing STEM fields and they make up the vast minority of the workforce. As a result of this women are more likely to be urged to pursue more liberal arts careers or lesser STEM fields
I only know this bit of information because I've been taking gender studies classes for the past four years lol
I agree with what you're saying though. In retrospect, art is not a "female-oriented" field and everyone who wants to pursue it should be allowed to. It's just interesting how throughout history, men dominated the art field, but now in art education classes, it seems like the classrooms are female-dominated.
I hope that could clear some things up if I mentioned something about that in the video lol.
Feel free to message back, I'd be happy to keep the discussion going.
All the best!
@@MonitorComics I can see what you’re saying and I could definitely tell you have some sort of gender ideology
@@AjaxDGonzo I feel like "gender ideology" is a bit too serious of a word to describe my views lol. That would imply that I believe in traditional gender roles and sex having some play in how jobs/careers should be distributed.
My stance on the matter is that everyone should be free to pursue or do whatever they want to do, regardless of race, gender, sex, ethnicity, etc.
That whole ramble was just to support whatever claim I made in the video about women in art haha
a transition from ego to order... hmmmm
that would be interesting.
definitely helpful thank you !
Anytime son and friends
This was a super helpful video!! Thanks a lot!!
Super glad to hear that!! Thanks for taking the time to watch and leaving a nice comment!
Bro I helped me a lot thanks I really mean it keep at it
Super glad to hear that! Thank you for checking the video out and taking the time to leave a nice comment!
This is amazing. Thank you
Thank you for taking the time to comment! I’m glad the video could help!
Notes to Self- 3:54
Can you do a video about making non battle manga/comics?
Thank you for the video suggestion! Could you be a bit more specific? I currently have videos going over comedy series, shojo, and seinen. Is there a specific genre you are thinking about?
@@MonitorComics like bakuman death note any series without powers
I completely agree
4:47 this image brought back memories 💔
Please kill my dad - Shinji
LOL
That means i can't write a dumb, optimistic and kind sweetheart? ☹️
Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment! At the end of the day, it's your work! Everything comes down to execution. Some of my favorite characters fall under this category! As long as it fits your story and it doesn't feel like a knock-off, then you should be good! Best of luck!
@@MonitorComics And I was just about to give up writing. Lol
@@Kuudere_Fanboy Never give up!!
@Kuudere fanboy I like your idea too (excluding the dumb ) except in my mind,my main character will be pressed untill he/her question his morality which led to Change of personality like Cruel, pessimist,sadist and ETc
Very helpful, i took notes
Psht I still need to take notes lol. I’m watching the videos, then I’m gonna go back and watch em again to take notes
I'm the 468 subscriber
Happy to have you!
One more and you would have been 469 th sub. :)
Can you have more than two character trope?
Thank you for the comment! Of course! There's so many character tropes and archetypes out there that make up character personalities, some are bound to overlap!
There are no "rules", the more unique (most of the time) the better
What’s the left panel in the thumbnail
man your comic seems to have a lot of expositions
This was great
I’m glad you enjoyed!
wow great video
Thank you so much!
It a cultural system and not a man made system 2:34
MR. WHO Culture is the promulgation of survival strategies from one generation to the next
Feminine and masculine activities and interest aren't man made either. It's biology and evolution.
@@Jesei1211 if its biology then why am i not natrally intrested in beauty or romance? Hobbys dont have genders its the society that enforced those rules.
06:11 does anyone know who is this character or the anime please?
The anime is Log Horizon. The image shows the main character!
So avoid these?
Remember, take every advice you ever receive with a grain of salt! There are PLENTY of stories that can make these archetypes work well. This video is just my opinion of more recent archetypes that have been a bit overdone! If your story has some of these archetypes, you can make the decision if they are necessary/help your story!
@@MonitorComics oh ok thanks for taking the time out of your day to reply to my comment.
The historic and societal stuff and even some of psychological stuff is just likely plain wrong and not factual. It'd be a great idea to drop the Froyd and pick up the history and science books.
"Creative fields" didn't even exist until recently, through most of history they've largely been artisan, or craftsman fields. While there were some notable female artists like poets or musicians in ancient time, the majority of European history had largely men working in artisan and craftsman roles. Not to speak of religious artwork. It'd probably be more accurate to say that women engaging in "creative fields" is actually a more recent development. Hell, not really that long ago it was seen as somewhat uncommon for a woman to be a writer or painter. I don't see where the girl hobby thing comes from. I have a feeling there's slightly more women in university/college level artistic educations and humanities in general, so maybe the misconception that "it's always been that way" comes from there.
It's been pretty well established too that gender norms or whatever aren't purely societal constructs due to a male dominated society or whatever. A lot of those came about from womens' own action and preferences, believe it or not. Either way one would be lead to believe it depends more on natural temperament than sex, and the sexes just have different distributions in attributes like empathy, agreeableness etc. It doesn't mean there can't be, and aren't a noticeably large amount of exceptions. It just means >50% conform to some trend. There's actually a larger difference in the sexes' preferences nowadays compared to a few decades ago due to polarization.
Not trying to offer some kind of societal critique, just pointing out some things which I don't think are necessarily factual and seem to give off the wrong idea.
This vid is way too high lvl for me, but I think u just dis Hyouka, so * U
Well, after spent my time watching the vid
I can say that I disagree with your view, since many of these characters could be entertainment to me. But then again, I have sht taste.
Seen #12, * U again, have u ever seen the whole series or just take a look and judge.
How men and women should behave ISN'T a man made system. Behaviour that correspond to man/woman is a evolutionary based development that made sure that the human race wasn't going to die out. But now, were fighting for your survival isn't needed anymore (in most countries) it's now the decade of individualism. Just because you as a man, enjoys art, doesn't make art as a subject any less feminine.
But that dosent mean forcing your son to like sports and cars and forcing your daughter to like romance and beauty. People have their own intrests and they shouldnt be repressed just bc someone decided it wasent attractive enough
Why does art have to be masculine or feminine lol
@@djroscurro9859 true just let ppl draw
@@ivythealiencat it’s the world that does that, not society
@@notproductiveproductions3504 same difference
Sorry. This didn't help me at all.
6:48
I can't hear you. -_- please make the volume higher nexttime
Really sorry about that! This was one of my older videos where I was just figuring out audio levels. My newer videos are much better audio-wise, I hope this doesn't stop you from checking them out!!
Somethings wrong with your phone. It’s not his fault 😂
That’s just you
you lost me with the gender roles, a girl can do boyish things and guys can do girl stuff thats it
I agree! Can you give me a timestamp to what part you are referring to? I'm a bit confused because I agree with your point, but this video is a few years old so I might've worded something weird
"Please....
Kill my dad"
*picture of smiling anime dood*
Me: *quaking*