Black Metal's Gnarly Origins: With Cradle of Filth's Dani Filth
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- Опубліковано 5 тра 2024
- In the latest episode of REVOLVER's "Gnarly Origins" video series, Cradle of Filth frontman Dani Filth looks back on the colorful - and sometimes disturbing - history of the global black-metal movement and his band's involvement in the scene.
From trailblazing extreme music to church-burning criminality, he discusses the essential albums, the tabloid headlines and more - including the story behind COF's seminal debut, 'The Principle of Evil Made Flesh,' which turns 30 in 2024.
CONTENT GUIDE:
00:00 The black-metal phenomenon
00:20 The most definitive black-metal records
01:07 The true global nature of the sound
03:25 The gory Mayhem story, church-burnings, the British press and the police
07:47 The tape trading scene and 'The Principle of Evil Made Flesh'
12:12 Satanism and the deep connection
13:33 Black metal’s contribution to metal history
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Remember meeting Dani randomly in a pub in sheffield before they played their gig, he said "assume you're coming to the gig with you wearing one of our shirts"? I said unfortunately not, I came up in hopes someone was selling tickets outside the venue, but can't find anyone selling any at the moment,that's why we came to the pub for a drink...didn't expect to see you in here though! He said "yeah not something we normally do,but we're not drinking alcohol..hey leave it with me and I'll get you in" ..He kept his word. Always remember that.
Super kool! Thanks for sharing that.
Good dude 👍👍
Legend
In 2000 on Midian tour I met all members after the show near the bus and they were all
super nice to me and my brother and few friends which were with us🤟🏻
And still remember that show was so loud I had a buzz in my head after for about a week😁😂
Dani is an amazing human being. He’s making all the right bands, plus many of the bands today took and learned elements from them. Credit to Cradle. However, I need to say that Dani is an amazing human. I took my 14 year old son to see them years ago in Philly, and he saw my kid singing all the words and really rocking out. At the end of the show he grabbed the set list off the drum riser and jumped into the crowd, pushing everyone away, and handing the set list to my son. Proud dad moment, and Dani being an absolute gentleman and class act. That moment will stick with me forever.
Dani is master lyricist. He is possibly the most eloquent lyric writer in extreme metal.
I can read his lyrics for enjoyment without even listening to the music. That's how good they are.
Long and intricate, and the pace he vocalizes at. Incredible.
Although a different style, Lord Worm's stuff on None So Vile is also top, top tier.
@@aaronishappy Lord Worm is also master wordsmith. I would also include Martin Walkyier from Sabbat and Skyclad as top tier writers. As a matter of fact he is a massive influence on Dani.
His lyrics reminds me of a poetic gothic rap song 🎶
I definitely always been a fan of the music and the lyrics
Cradle of Filth is one of those symphonic black metal bands that true black metalists say they hate when asked in public. But behind closed doors they actually like and respect them. Especially the older 90s COF music. I put Dimmu Borgir in that same category.
Definitely correct.... "For all tid" is still one of the best Black Metal albums ever
I agree! I actually started out with Cradle and Dimmu Borgir. I still love all of Dani's music, albeit I'm picky I admit and I never really got into Dimmu Borgir's new sound. I really got into bands like Satyricon, Isengard, Darktrhone, Urgehal, Tsjuder, Urfaust, Archgoat and lots of old stuff. Still, they are both incredible bands who helped shape my youth and inspired me to be the person I am today. They will always be remembered very fondly of in my mind even if their styles change overtime.
What an amazing interview. Unfortunate that it was so short, I love when Dani talks about stuff he's interested in rather than just the usual promo stuff, could listen for hours.
1:55 Mentioning Necrodeath and loads of other essential underrated bands holy shiet dani knows his stuff👍 love COF as always
Yep, Sarcofago (with INRI) and maybe Amen Corner could be there as well. Love the first Necrodeath of course.
In 98, in the black metal circuit it wasn't "cool" to like Cradle of Filth, it wasn't allowed because was considered "poser music". But the album was so good that secretly many "kvlt" dudes had the album and listened to it regularly.
I remember that too. It is only lately I have been enjoyed (early) COF albums. It is nice to see Dani know he's metal and talk about bands like Necrodeath, early Destruction etc. Too bad they didnt speak about things like that back in the 90's. It was just the ... darkness and goth.
@@OrkoSukisukihe's always said Destruction, Iron Maiden and Mercyful Fate were his biggest influences.
I think he’s been at it so long and has been so consistent that many people even haters now have a somewhat grudging respect for him and his band.
His first place he went to was Emperor’s In the Nightside eclipse, and that is 💯 correct.
Dani's house looks exactly as it should.
Don't forget FILOSOFEM by the mighty Burzum. That album is legendary.
Hearing Dani name drop the right bands and albums that spawned black metal was really refreshing - no doubt because he lived through it. Most black metal historians seem to only be able to piece together bits and pieces of the history that are correct; or the other group of people who talk about it were never really into black metal to begin with and get the history of it flat out wrong.
The other nice thing about this interview is it was Cradle of Filth that really accelerated my journey into extreme metal at the turn of the 21st century and I am not often reminded of that anymore. While I stopped listening to their music by 2003, with Damnation and a Day, the band does hold a special place in my musical evolution.
So thanks for making the music you did in the 90's Dani. I would not be listening to all the awesome shit that I do now if it were not for you.
Regarding the first paragraph: I've been through it all from the beginning and getting corrected on black metal history by youtube channel buggers that hadn't even made it to sperm stage at that time! Pretty annoying but I guess that's the cost of getting old.
Dude, exactly the same happened with me. Cradle and Dimmu and I also stopped listening to Cradle by 2003 as I moved more into other black metal bands, especially the like of Dissection,Dark Funeral etc
The forest whispers my name
I live in Oklahoma. I have loved cradle of filth since 2005 when i was a 12 year old hearing them for the first time.
I am a mortician now at 31. I was sitting at the bank, waiting to make my deposite. I saw a dude wearing a a cradle shirt. He was easily in his late 40's. I said dani is a beast, and cruelty, and principle are still to this day in my top 10 favorite albums. I just find it crazy that I have something in common with another person who is the age of my father. Even though i grew up listening to whitechapel, suicide silence, ect. I always held my love for cradle of filth. Also, let me remind you. We are in Oklahoma 🤣. Wild. I still hope to meet one of my musical heros (dani) one day. I saw them when i was 14 with gwar, and i lost my mind 😅
Hellyea
Live in tulsa here.
es que cradle of filth es musica que no tien tiempo determinado, es y sera musica interesante para todas las edades, ayer tomabamos cerveza con un amigo en las calles y he visto dos niñas :una llevando camiseta rockera y la otra camiseta de cradle of filth, he quedado alucinado como su musica puede tocar la vida de personas de todas las edades.
I'm old enough to be your dad and Deicide Legion was out when I was a freshman in high school.. Death Human and Morbid Angel Blessed are the Sick and Covenant all released during my school days. Got to see Pantera for the Far Beyond and Vulgar tours. Great time to be alive for a heavy music fan and musician..
Dusk and her embrace is a masterpiece!
Between this and Cruelty for me
I still have my Carnival Fruitcake cassette from 30 years ago. This was an EP put together by Dani and few guys from school, before he went on to global success with Cradle of Filth.
Great interview, love hearing stories from their begginings as I remember myself discovering and being blown out by Principle, Vempire, Dusk, Cruelty etc. Love COF. Looking fwd to see them live in a couple of days😊🤘
Thanks for the interview, Chris.
So many ppl talk that shit about cradle but the facts and reality remain... They were there. They were part of it and they are valid. Deep hails to cradle. So fun, so talented, so genuine.
Deep,deep hails. Iove you Danni❤️
I would love to chill and have a beer with Dani. Guy seems like a awesome person to just hang and listen to stories and talk about music.
Always loved COF, you can absolutely listen to dark funeral and dark throne or gorgoroth etc and still enjoy COF.
What you learn through time is that the trve kvlt types, while acting the most extreme are simultaneously the biggest posers of them all. Some of them probably listen to pop music on the side.
We need way more talk of Mercyful Fate imo.
Honestly he spent a bit of time on them, had a mystical experience with the band. I took it in and out of the interview over and over again, but ultimately just left in that tiny mention. Such an important part of the sound.
Cool, maybe a King Diamond/MF interview should be next then ;)@@revolver
Big time. Especially as King Diamond is the only one who is an actual satanist in real life of all these bands
Cradle was the definition of black metal for me as a teenager!
Same!
It was cradle and dimmu that got me into it in the early 2000s. I'm 37 now and black metal is still king.
@@rustyshackleford5830 yes!! Same for me as well 😅
I feel sorry for you. I mean it.
Awesome!! Was just listening to Dusk and Her Embrace this morning!!! 💀 ☕ 👍
They forgot about Sarcofago...
OMG, Brazil was SO SICK (and still are) for metal!! Sarcofago and Vulcano!
And Bulldozer regarding Italy. Thought appreciate he mentioned Necrodeath 😎
Love his mind and his intelligence. It is why i as always attracted to the band. They always had fantastic talent in it as well. Amazing musicians and artists all around. Even if you're not some black metal person, Cradle of Filth is a must hear at least once in your life.
I love that he’s such an eloquent part of the foundation himself, but is such a nerd who is aware of true beginnings and appreciates it all.
I’m not a huge fan of any or most, but history is important.
Dani rules
Very interesting to hear from his perspective, haven't really read anything about his opinions before. I think he got some good points regarding the origin and development from different countries. Might be obvious when you think about it, but most people haven't really thought about people from different locations having a different perspective of what's cool, evil, controversial and so on.
I think the reason Cradle of Filth felt like an outlier (still do), is because they had a much more polished/smooth sound to it as well as having vampires instead of Tolkien as inspiration, like he mentions.
Dani seems like a really nice guy :)
Always enjoy listening to Dani, intelligent and articulate guy
Id like to see Dani's CD collection.
Cradle of Filth - Dusk and her Embrace is sick BM album too!!
DARK METAL
Many people say COF is not "real" black metal, and they're right. Not in a gatekeeping way, but because COF music is obviously a mix of black, death, and goth.
Indeed the total sincerity, authenticity & limitless devotion to the cause that happened between 90 & 95/96 will never happen again… that is why it is the peak of BM. So many legendary albums including the first 3 CoF albums (Vempire counting as their 2nd album) from young (teenage!) bands that only cared about making evil music… I would include some Death Metal of that same period as well (Entombed, Deicide, Infester, Morbid Angel, Autopsy, Suffocation etc)
I still have a demo tape of theirs (Total Fucking Darkness). Got it signed by Dani and the original guitarist years later. Always thought it would be cool to travel the world just to get all of their signatures on it but have had many changes in life. Maybe one day. Still listen to it every few years. And the last time was in a kind of sandy cave/hole on the side of a mountain. Thought i had a couple bugs on me but then noticed the music / vibrations were making dirt fall from the top of it , on to us. We continued to listen to the tape until the album was finished and left. Haven’t been back to that cave in 14 years and am sure it has collapsed by now. Good fucking times.
Dani Filth is a lyrical genius, an unmatched vocalist, and an inspiration. Always hope to see them one day, been a fan since 2000.
Fantastic interview, need more Aussie Black Metal bands!
Always great hearing Dani Filth talk about music. Great interview 🤘
Wish this interview was longer hail COF
Always comes across as a cool dude, really good Interview.
I remember meeting Dani outside in NYC after a concert of theirs. Very nice bloke. Great concert too.
Great interview! He seems like a very intelligent and discerning fellow.
Based on the bands and albums he named off, he knows what he is talking about, although I'd give more credit to Bathory.
I thought he would have mentioned Master's Hammer as one of his influential first wave bands, they were one of the bands I listened to a lot in the early 90's.
legendary, man. not only in czechoslovakia
Great interview.
The master himself 🖤🤘🔥
Awesome interview, I truly enjoy seeing Dani and Christina interviews.
Not wrong. Saw "In the Nightside Eclipse" album played in full by Emperor last year in Sydney. Met Dani a few times at gigs. Nice fella 🤩
Always love a good Dani interview.
I still love Cruelty And The Beast. I love the sound of it, the mix is so pleasant to my ears, the riffs are great, the song structures...
🤘🤘
Beneaaaath the howling STAAAAAARS!!!!
I got into it in June 2000, and it is still my favourite album ever. It never loses its magic. \m/
one of my favorite albums of all time!
Great interview!
I consider the principle of evil made flesh and Vempire, by Cradle, as great blackmetal records of the 90's. Love those as much as all the genius Norwegian bands. And the records/bands he mentioned, clearly are the origins of Blackmetal.
Dani knows his sfuff and cradle were originally back metal and were pretty good, he's good friends with sabbat who also pioneered the black metal sound with the other bands
I bought a Cradle of FILTH CD for my kids when they were 14 16 ish cause they liked that stuff and of course I would hear it coming from their rooms and I liked it. I was a drummer in a metal band playing more mainstream metal then really got into Fate, manowar, Celtic frost but still into ozzy, judas, sabbath and some more local bands like Cannibal Corpse, groovy aardvark and that bad that bad that Jason Newstedd came from and the one he went to which are guys I grew up with
But I was playing blues rock then
I evolved into more challenging stuff
Possibly the best thing about Cradle is in how they somehow made Black Metal more accessible back in the day (I'm talking my first exposure here, Cruelty and the Beast in '98) I mean, I was already into a variety of genres of 'heavier', from the mainstream pov, guitar driven music anyway (from grunge to melodeath etc) which probably helped... But Cradle had this way of going all in while remaining melodic and riffy etc. Of course, the response from more traditional or hardcore BM fans was to look down on them for that (while, as some have posited, enjoying them behind closed doors) It's all good though, and even as picky as I can be re music I like, tending to prefer what feels and sounds right and good as opposed to what's most liked, trended etc per group, Cradle have a run of five albums or so that I love as much as anything else I listen to, even if much of that might be considered 'lighter'. End of the day, if I like something enough that my heart beats to it and I know every lick and roll, what's not to like?
las letras de dani son poesia pura y su musica increible, mi banda favorita de ese estilo es y sera siempre COF,por mas bandas que me pongan enfrente no los cambiare por nada, cruelty and the beast es una SINFONIA PERFECTA DE PRINCIPIO A FIN .
we come from the same county in england lol suffolk! i haven't seen the guy in years!! when i was 12 i got hooked on nymphetamine and they actually scared the crap out of me lol
I love COF and I love you Christina!
Great interviews as always!
One of the Greats🤘🏽
I totally agree with danni coments, there's was a lot of diffrent sounds back on the day , all good and agresive in diffrent ways 🤘😎
"Im so Nodic, but Im from America!" Im American, that shit is funny, and so fucking true!
There were also brazilian bands like Sarcófago, Vulcano, Mystifier and early Sepultura.
Great Dani
У Дэни отличная коллекция CD. Я тоже стремлюсь к этому. 😊🎸🔥🤟
I have way more than that. 1000s Glad people collect CDs still though. I still do. Don't like all this downloading and streaming. I like to have something.
Dani is a poet and a soulful artist.
That whole list of bands he just recited starting at around 1:50 reads like an exact list of all the bands i grew up on.
When i heard The Principle of Evil Made Flesh i was insteadly hooked
Legendario
I miss Andrea, her music is part of my life. My name "Skadisson" was born out of what her song "Wake Skadi" let bloom in my life. May she rest in peace while keeping living in our hearts.
COF's first demos are insanely evil 🤘
Danny with glasses, this is how we felt :) we're old and still listening this kind of shit)
And here is a true "(black) metal scholar" like very few nowadays...
Legendary...
In the nightside eclipse its a masterpiece. Today its the best black metal album, but when it was released, it was 20 years ahead of any album.
Pope love this guy!
Great insight. From another British perspective Mayhem didn't make much of a blip even after the murder/Kerrang cover. You could find those albums in bargain bins 4 at a time in the small European distribution they had (often hand delivered). It was only after the internet got into most homes did the story make the rounds almost a decade later. On the back of the music the bands all failed until the notoriety spread. Then nerds embraced black metal by numbers and ruined the underground with clones. If it wasn't for the story, the second wave would have died as quick as the first.
I was at the day of death :) Tufnell Park Dome if I remember, around the time of the Total Fucking Darkness demo 🤘
The satanist advisor he's talking about was Andrea Haugen, of Hagalaz rundance.
Wow! There is no mention of Colombian Ultra Metal and how they influenced Dead and Euronymous during the creation of the Deathcrush EP. The patch with a red logo and a white angel with a sword that Dead wears on his jacket is from the Colombian Ultra Metal band "Reencarnación" and the song "888 metal"...
To this day Emperor is a masterclass in symphonic black metal. And they were teenagers!
Ehh...love him or hate him....he turned A LOT of young kids in America on to Black Metal.
And you're saying that as a positive? Wow, we get Myrkur, Nachtmystium and Pentaface. What a brilliant legacy.
@@BestBackingTracks If you happen to like black metal then ya....id say so. Im assuming you're one of those guys that breaks everything you listen to down into tiny little sub genres and then yells at everyone about them arent you? Lol
Profanatica!!!
Moonspell was and is still my favorite band
Don’t forget the ‘Surf’Music influence on black metal..Great interview.X
Still love early Cradle 🤌🏻
I was always gutted when their April's fools joke, "Victorian England under Martian rule", turned out to be exactly that... a joke.. it had titles and everything! I keep wishing they would finally release it!
Hate COF all you want but there early material is legendary and Dani seems to really know what he’s talking about when comes to black metal and underground metal in general.
I dont care what any one says or thinks Cradle of Filth was one of first bands to introduce me to Black metal. In my early teen years 🤘🏻
Worship him was the first black metal album I listened to.
Dani Filth is one of cleavest guys in the business
I highly recommend the book Evolution of the Cult by Dayal Patterson if you interest in the detailed history of black metal. It has a chapter on Cradle of Filth too.
I didn't know Andrea was associated with Cradle, Agahst first one is one of the greatest albums ever.
I'm not a fan but I enjoyed the interview.
When an interviewer’s sense of humour isn’t quite on the same frequency...very entertaining though, and Mr Filth is a great raconteur
Very intelligent and cool person.
DANI IS A BIG INFLUENCE ON OUR BAND
I'm not a black metal fan, I don't really know anything about it to be fair but I love COF
Good bloke cheers Dani
I was waiting for him to mention Limbonic Art
"Fenriz saying: I'm so Nordic it hurts; when Fenriz lives in America" 😂
Cradle is too heavy for me but love Dani and listening to his interviews.
Don't forget 'Sabbat' from Japan!!
@0:45 - Can't believe Impaled Nazarene "Ugra-Karma" was left out of this list. Also Beherit's "Oath of the Black Blood".. for those brave enough, just be sure to have a crucifix nearby.
He actually mentioned "Ugra-Karma" after that.
@@mmsouto - Really? Oh.. I never finished listening to the entire interview.
I would love to meet Dani he seems like an awsome bloke and I whould like to have tea and crumpets with him