@@maureenmuggleton5145 Thank you sister Maureen. Soon the name of N. T. Wright will be known in the Church the way it is known in the Kingdom of Darkness, but with much less fear, and much more love! Amen?
So many Christians are caught up in their particular denomination’s biased view on the Holy Spirit this information becomes useless to them, sadly. Take a fresh look at the Holy Spirit from a wider angle of Scripture by beginning with this video will open the eyes.
@@MethodistPreacher Thank you for that comment, wise brother in Christ Marcus! When we keep the basics of the faith in mind, things are less likely to go off into theological weeds. First, God. God is three persons, two of which are not present on earth, while one is. Start there, amen?
I like how at 3:39, right after he quoted Jesus saying “if anyone is thirsty they should come to him and drink,” a guy passes by in the background and drinks from his water bottle 😂😂
A great theologian! His brief presentation on the Holy Spirit. Many relegate the Holy Spirit’s work to the book of Acts and forming a limited often biased doctrine of the Holy Spirit. But to see the wider Person and ministry of the Holy Spirit through the whole of Holy Scripture broadens the understanding of the Holy Spirit and cancels so many misconceptions and doctrinal failures.
It is evident to me this man has the Holy Spirit. John 17:23 KJVS [23] I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. Galatians 3:14 KJVS [14] That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. Acts 3:25-26 KJVS [25] Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. [26] Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.
The Spirit produces Life, real life, authentic life, divine life in those who trust in Jesus (John 3:3; Roman's 8) If your life hasn't changed. you have to question if you have truly received Jesus.
Judaeo-Christianity is a Spiritual Church and the face of the Holy Spirit is the congregation. We are baptised by the Father as Acts 15:8, for our confession of faith in Christ, guided by the Holy Spirit.
@@adrienmarsden well it is a compromise. Really if you are baptised you are a Jew. Reference Romans 2:29. However there are people calling themselves Jews who are unacceptably NG their Messiah, or are Talmudin Jews like the Pharisees. So as, I live in England we recognise in the C of E the roots of Judaism, and say our law is Judaeo-Christian. Jew is the correct term as Romans was written to baptised Jews, either from the Israelites or Gentiles. I believe the first Hebrew converts were called Christians of Judaea.
One of the best ways to understand the Holy Spirit is to take a very close look at what Jesus says in John 14:21-23, and read it over and over until you understand what He is actually saying there. That He IS the Father, and they together ARE the Holy Spirit. Isaiah 9:6 and John 4:24 are references to help understand this.
Good theology... but there seems to be something off centre in it.. i think its his lack of sense of "power" in Holy Spirit. That the Spirit always comes dynamically.. to bring ppl to God. His thrust is more mundane on new creation in the world... which equates to social action. .. or presence. Thats not the testimony of Acts.. none had the Spirit but those who visibly experience his presence. Wright needs to reread Gordon Fee (his friend) on the dynamic (and that the temple is the LOCAL church not the whole or universal church)and James Dunn (his collegue) on Acts. Many who fill our churches have never experienced the Spirit.(Acts 8:18, Galatians 3:2 & 5, 1Thess 4:8) and as such do nothing of kingdom work...Jesus work is preach the gospel, cast out demons and heal the sick.. miraculously and dynamically None of that can be done without the Spirit...never known Wright to do this.. perhaps he does
@@adrienmarsden listen again... he says "the whole church" and "THE church" .. he means the universal church... ofc he says the individual believer too. But he misses the "power" dynamic element of the Spirit.. which is central to both Luke and Paul. New creation and doing new creation is his emphasis which is mundanely done by "whole church" .. which hed equate with good social works.
Paul Robinson It is hard to bring a full orbed teaching on the Holy Spirit in less than 6 minutes. I believe Dr. Wright uses terms like “full measure” and “empowerment.” Too often we hear someone like Dr. Wright and expect a more nuanced characterization that is just not possible in this context. BTW, I do agree that the Holy Spirit, as my theological mentor, Dr. J. Rodman Williams would say, the Spirit comes on, is poured out, fills, empowers, convicts,etc. The point is that the Holy Spirit fully immerses us with Himself. Power is not the only aspect, however. The Holy Spirit is likened to many different things like oil, water, fire, wind, etc. He is multifaceted.
Slight concern: NTW in New Testament in its World consistently describes the Holy Spirit as 'holy spirit' and seems to downplay the personhood of the Spirit (with only 2 scant references to the Paraclete -the other 'Helper'). Similarly in this clip there is no mention that the Spirit is a Person -(and incidentally little mention of the charismata -the power of the Spirit). It seems more Binitarian than Trinitarian?
The Holy Spirit is the spirit of God as NT Wright says. It is clearly not person, or Person as you put it although I don't know what you are trying to convey by capitalising it. A person is a distinct personality that has private experiences that are not accessible to anyone else and it's own moral values. Thus it's not an appropriate term for the Holy Spirit although it's a popular term in churches today I grant you.
The Holy Spirit is not a separate person. The Holy Spirit is God, the Father's spirit. God, the Father is holy and He is pure spirit. His spirit can be called the Holy Spirit but that doesn't make it another "person". The notion of the trinity came out of the Catholic church around the time of the council of Nicea in 325AD. There is no mention of the trinity in the old testament written by Jews. When Moses asked God who he should say sent him, God told him "I am that I am", say "I am" sent you. Notice the singular personal pronoun "I"... not "we".
Concur . 👍🏻🙏 One what, two who ! It the OT the spirit is invariably disposition, motivation and or creative agency ! A hologram can represent personality without being a person ! No brainer....the Spirit never speaks of its/his self !
@@robcampbell3118 Actually, we have one God in three Persons, which is the Trinity. So yes, the Holy Spirit is a person, just as the Son is a Person with two natures, and God the Father is a Person.
One what and three who or one what and two who. ? . One nature/being, I have a nature and my son has the same nature from me! We are two persons but one nature/being !
i am one such person on earth thats done these THINGS and come out whole. after years of going round and round with scriptures. One day i was hit with a call from God to read the SPIRIT side of the bible. the bible tells me that this side SAVES. 2 Corinthians 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. there was part of the bible where Jesus asks us to come to Him as a Child. as i meditated and activated the 7 churches within my midst, my son/soul appeared, and began the climb up my chakras to Mother/Holy Ghost. She and my brother sat there and torched my Lower Mind till it came clean, and sided with it ... Father and Mother were together at last. It was a long time on the other side of life with the Strange Woman of scripture . but she held me tight and i was to find out IT was Gods curse, SLUMBER, that we had to believe at all cost that the Word was true, till He calls us. That he was a FATHER not a GOD, it was only one of the being called Lucifer . For God is, He and Holy Ghost, not the Strange Woman of scripture. when Mother comes aboard, She and the Strange Woman have it out and we no longer follow religion, and its dogma. it is written ... the Earth goes dark the Moon goes RED the Stars fall to EARTH rumblings in Heaven these are our... Heads/lower mind religion no longer has its affects on you Gods council New Mind Now is you that goes OUT in Meditation ... as the moon goes red as your being filled with the holy spirit .. take council from the stars from Gods abroad ... our lower mind is brought UP to enlightenment and JOINED together with MOTHER and made WHOLE. Now we Got God. Now we have received God the RIGHT way. AND WHILE WE ARE ALIVE NOT DEAD. we have over come death and are Alive in CHRIST I Am Saved
So the holy spirit is God, the Father's, spirit. It's not a separate "person". It is the agency which God, the Father uses to carry out his purposes. There is no "trinity" of persons who together are the God-Head. There is God, the Father, who alone is God, and there is Jesus, his son.
'Under the sun,' yes. But Ecclesiastes says there's more to the world than that. It contrasts 'under the sun' with 'before God' or 'the hand of God' (chapters 2, 3, 5, 9, 11), which shows that you are right, nothing is new under the sun, except for the work of God, who, as I understand it, 'makes all things new.'
Lots of good passages mentioned but this fails to explain how the Holy Spirit works. Jesus said unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood, you have no life in you. So, dear friends, do not be fooled by eloquent words but you must receive the spirit through either the laying on of hands or the consumption of the body and blood. These are referring to the plant that Christ came to give all people that believe in Him. He made that a prerequisite and said "Do not give to dogs that which is sacred". That which is sacred is Kaneh Bosm that grew plentiful in the area and was what God had told Moses to make the bitter water sweet. And in Exodus 30, Moses was told to make a Holy Anointing Oil from the same plant but the Bibles were corrupted so that you will not find the correct formula. Through the years, the Hebrews lost all that information but Jesus came to give this to all people that believed in Him. It provides the oil of joy and it provides supernatural empowerment. The oil was no longer reserved for just kings and priests but was for all men who believed in Jesus as the Son of God.
The language of Christ about eating and drinking his body and blood deals with how the priests would eat a portion of the sacrifices that came to the temple. Leviticus 6:16-18 is a reference that I can think of off the top of my head. So Christ is saying, in John 6:56, that you are to be gathered together over the word of the gospel like the sacrifices given in the temple to the priests. You can see Christ use similar language in John 6:56, concerning abiding in him and us in Christ, in John 15:7. That means the body and blood, which are the words of the new covenant, are what we gather together and celebrate over. That is how we have fellowship and abide in Christ through the body and blood. The sacrifices of the new covenant inaugurated through his body and blood.
Sorry Tom but this is the future. We are in the hereafter in Jesus' own words. We have the Holy Trinity as witness to our faith, all prophecy was fulfilled, heavenly judgement of Jesus Christ awaits.
The trinity is a lie that came out of the Catholic church around the time of the Catholic Council of Nicea (325AD). The Holy Spirit is God, the Father's spirit. He is holy, and he is spirit. He pours out His spirit on whomever he wishes. It is God, the Father's, spirit that enlivens every living creature.
Your statement here is one that is familiar to me as I was a JW for decades, and they taught this. I have been learning church history since leaving that belief system and it does not take long to see it is not factual. The Roman Catholic Church was not in existence yet at the Council of Nicea. The deity of Christ and of the Holy Spirit were being questioned at that time. The consensus over time by reputable true Bible scholars is that God of the Bible is a God head made up of three individual persons. No, the Trinity is not easy to explain human terms. But how small are you willing to make God just to be able to explain to yourself using rationalism who He is? Watchtower made a god in their image. A god who is not omnipresent nor omniscient. They made gods of themselves and removed both Jesus and the Holy Spirit. I left them when I realized they teach another christ and a false Gospel. The scriptures are clear about avoiding such ones.
Why don’t you go ahead and describe your point? It’s easy to call someone fool. But you gotta realize you’re actually worse than the fool if you’re not doing anything other than making fun of them. So go ahead.
@@herosimba1 I agree with you completely. so I am describing my point as you told - People are not so Fool anymore that they would believe another human being as God. If someone claim he is God, And people believe him = Foolish. If someone not claim he is God, Yet people believe he is God = Crazy Lunatic. Not a single verse in Bible where Jesus himself say's ''Believe that I am God'' or Not a single verse in Bible where Jesus himself say's ''I am equal to God the Father'' or Not a single verse in Bible where Jesus himself commands people to worship him. or Not a single verse in Bible where Jesus himself says, '' I am the 2nd person of Trinity'' or Not a single verse in Bible where Jesus himself says, God is Three in One. or Not a single verse in Bible where Jesus himself says, ''Holy spirit'' is the third person of the Trinity. The word ''Trinity'' does not exist in the whole Bible. Yet my beloved Christian's believe Jesus is God & worship him. Will you not ever turn on your common sense, my dear ? Why don't you understand God can not be a Human ??? ------------ How I wonder ! in this 21st century when people are well educated, Yet there are some who are so idiot that they think a human being is God !!! I am not an atheist. I strictly believe in One God. But have you ever thought about your belief ? Suppose you born 2050 years ago. and you were put in charge to take care of baby Jesus. The baby Jesus pooped. . . Just imagine & visualize, ''You are changing the diaper of God'' !!! The Creator of The Heavens & the earth !!! If that scene could give life to your dead ''common sense'' !! -----------
DON'T GRIEVE THE HOLY SPIRIT. THIS MAN OF GOD IS TEACHING ACCURATE ABOUT THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD. 🙌 AMEN. LOVE YOU SO MUCH SWEET DIVINE GENUINE HOLY SPIRIT~ LORD'S SPIRIT. ❤️❤️ AMEN.
Thank u for all your teachings! You are I bright light in this world! Blessings and peace to all!
Less than 100 comments? This man is saying almost everything that needs to be said about the Christian Faith.
I agree !
@@maureenmuggleton5145 Thank you sister Maureen. Soon the name of N. T. Wright will be known in the Church the way it is known in the Kingdom of Darkness, but with much less fear, and much more love! Amen?
So many Christians are caught up in their particular denomination’s biased view on the Holy Spirit this information becomes useless to them, sadly. Take a fresh look at the Holy Spirit from a wider angle of Scripture by beginning with this video will open the eyes.
@@MethodistPreacher Thank you for that comment, wise brother in Christ Marcus! When we keep the basics of the faith in mind, things are less likely to go off into theological weeds. First, God. God is three persons, two of which are not present on earth, while one is. Start there, amen?
@K P Oh dear. Ehrman's objections could be answered by a good footnote Bible and some C. S. Lewis. He's a dim bulb at best, my friend.
3:39 - when he said "come and drink" someone in the background walk by and drink in a bottle... Nice.
Perfect!
😂😂 that was incredible
Then you start looking for new patterns the whole video.
I saw that too. Hilarious!!!!
Yes. Awesome
I like how at 3:39, right after he quoted Jesus saying “if anyone is thirsty they should come to him and drink,” a guy passes by in the background and drinks from his water bottle 😂😂
Pray for me Tom.
Glory To The Triune GOD
I feel like I just read an entire book in 6 minutes. This dude can data dump like none other...and yet, it is also incredibly refreshing. Love it.
the man is gifted and oozes with intelligence!
thank you!
Thank you Sir for a very clear understanding of the Holy Spirit.
This is the best talk ever. Thank you!
my word is spirit and life ,the spirit is the word in you with power
Praise the Lord!!!🎉
Thank Thank you for your teaching ❤️
Thanks, Dr. Wright!
The mark of an Apostle is to articulate the universality of the Christian faith.
A great theologian! His brief presentation on the Holy Spirit. Many relegate the Holy Spirit’s work to the book of Acts and forming a limited often biased doctrine of the Holy Spirit. But to see the wider Person and ministry of the Holy Spirit through the whole of Holy Scripture broadens the understanding of the Holy Spirit and cancels so many misconceptions and doctrinal failures.
It is evident to me this man has the Holy Spirit.
John 17:23 KJVS
[23] I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
Galatians 3:14 KJVS
[14] That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
Acts 3:25-26 KJVS
[25] Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. [26] Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.
Educated but not spirit filled.
Amen. Thank you very much..
Amen
John 14:12-13 the final Great commission !
Amen!
The Spirit produces Life, real life, authentic life, divine life in those who trust in Jesus (John 3:3; Roman's 8) If your life hasn't changed. you have to question if you have truly received Jesus.
Yes, amen
Epic.
Can you post a transcript?
Wow!!!
Does NT wright believe belivers have the holy spirit indwelling in them?
Judaeo-Christianity is a Spiritual Church and the face of the Holy Spirit is the congregation. We are baptised by the Father as Acts 15:8, for our confession of faith in Christ, guided by the Holy Spirit.
Simon Skinner why do you say judaeo
@@adrienmarsden well it is a compromise. Really if you are baptised you are a Jew. Reference Romans 2:29. However there are people calling themselves Jews who are unacceptably NG their Messiah, or are Talmudin Jews like the Pharisees. So as, I live in England we recognise in the C of E the roots of Judaism, and say our law is Judaeo-Christian. Jew is the correct term as Romans was written to baptised Jews, either from the Israelites or Gentiles.
I believe the first Hebrew converts were called Christians of Judaea.
Jesus
Be careful of people in the comments trying to teach people while watching a teaching video. Smh. We have to learn to stop it.
One of the best ways to understand the Holy Spirit is to take a very close look at what Jesus says in John 14:21-23, and read it over and over until you understand what He is actually saying there. That He IS the Father, and they together ARE the Holy Spirit. Isaiah 9:6 and John 4:24 are references to help understand this.
Reading your bible, that’s how.
Reading the Bible is important but that is not how you receive the spirit. 2 Cor 3:6
Good theology... but there seems to be something off centre in it.. i think its his lack of sense of "power" in Holy Spirit. That the Spirit always comes dynamically.. to bring ppl to God. His thrust is more mundane on new creation in the world... which equates to social action. .. or presence. Thats not the testimony of Acts.. none had the Spirit but those who visibly experience his presence. Wright needs to reread Gordon Fee (his friend) on the dynamic (and that the temple is the LOCAL church not the whole or universal church)and James Dunn (his collegue) on Acts. Many who fill our churches have never experienced the Spirit.(Acts 8:18, Galatians 3:2 & 5, 1Thess 4:8) and as such do nothing of kingdom work...Jesus work is preach the gospel, cast out demons and heal the sick.. miraculously and dynamically None of that can be done without the Spirit...never known Wright to do this.. perhaps he does
Paul Robinson I believe he’s saying the temple is the body of a Spirit filled Christian aka every actual member of the church
Jesus’s miracles were a side affect of his main effort; Bringing the Kingdom of God
@@adrienmarsden listen again... he says "the whole church" and "THE church" .. he means the universal church... ofc he says the individual believer too. But he misses the "power" dynamic element of the Spirit.. which is central to both Luke and Paul. New creation and doing new creation is his emphasis which is mundanely done by "whole church" .. which hed equate with good social works.
@@adrienmarsden a sign that the kingdom was here.
Paul Robinson It is hard to bring a full orbed teaching on the Holy Spirit in less than 6 minutes. I believe Dr. Wright uses terms like “full measure” and “empowerment.” Too often we hear someone like Dr. Wright and expect a more nuanced characterization that is just not possible in this context. BTW, I do agree that the Holy Spirit, as my theological mentor, Dr. J. Rodman Williams would say, the Spirit comes on, is poured out, fills, empowers, convicts,etc. The point is that the Holy Spirit fully immerses us with Himself. Power is not the only aspect, however. The Holy Spirit is likened to many different things like oil, water, fire, wind, etc. He is multifaceted.
If you want to understand the Trinity go to The Lord's Day Ministry. God gave me a revelation that perfectly explains it.
I already understand the Doctrine of the Holy Trinity and have taught it. But thanks for sharing.
Slight concern: NTW in New Testament in its World consistently describes the Holy Spirit as 'holy spirit' and seems to downplay the personhood of the Spirit (with only 2 scant references to the Paraclete -the other 'Helper'). Similarly in this clip there is no mention that the Spirit is a Person -(and incidentally little mention of the charismata -the power of the Spirit). It seems more Binitarian than Trinitarian?
The Holy Spirit is the spirit of God as NT Wright says. It is clearly not person, or Person as you put it although I don't know what you are trying to convey by capitalising it. A person is a distinct personality that has private experiences that are not accessible to anyone else and it's own moral values. Thus it's not an appropriate term for the Holy Spirit although it's a popular term in churches today I grant you.
The Holy Spirit is not a separate person. The Holy Spirit is God, the Father's spirit. God, the Father is holy and He is pure spirit. His spirit can be called the Holy Spirit but that doesn't make it another "person". The notion of the trinity came out of the Catholic church around the time of the council of Nicea in 325AD. There is no mention of the trinity in the old testament written by Jews. When Moses asked God who he should say sent him, God told him "I am that I am", say "I am" sent you. Notice the singular personal pronoun "I"... not "we".
@@fromanabe8639 spoken like someone who has no idea what the trinity is
Concur . 👍🏻🙏
One what, two who !
It the OT the spirit is invariably disposition, motivation and or creative agency !
A hologram can represent personality without being a person !
No brainer....the Spirit never speaks of its/his self !
@@robcampbell3118 Actually, we have one God in three Persons, which is the Trinity. So yes, the Holy Spirit is a person, just as the Son is a Person with two natures, and God the Father is a Person.
One what and three who or one what and two who. ? .
One nature/being, I have a nature and my son has the same nature from me! We are two persons but one nature/being !
i am one such person on earth thats done these THINGS and come out whole. after years of going round and round with scriptures. One day i was hit with a call from God to read the SPIRIT side of the bible. the bible tells me that this side SAVES. 2 Corinthians 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. there was part of the bible where Jesus asks us to come to Him as a Child. as i meditated and activated the 7 churches within my midst, my son/soul appeared, and began the climb up my chakras to Mother/Holy Ghost. She and my brother sat there and torched my Lower Mind till it came clean, and sided with it ... Father and Mother were together at last.
It was a long time on the other side of life with the Strange Woman of scripture . but she held me tight and i was to find out IT was Gods curse, SLUMBER, that we had to believe at all cost that the Word was true, till He calls us. That he was a FATHER not a GOD, it was only one of the being called Lucifer . For God is, He and Holy Ghost, not the Strange Woman of scripture. when Mother comes aboard, She and the Strange Woman have it out and we no longer follow religion, and its dogma.
it is written ... the Earth goes dark
the Moon goes RED
the Stars fall to EARTH
rumblings in Heaven
these are our... Heads/lower mind
religion no longer has its affects on you
Gods council
New Mind
Now is you that goes OUT in Meditation ... as the moon goes red as your being filled with the holy spirit .. take council from the stars from Gods abroad ... our lower mind is brought UP to enlightenment and JOINED together with MOTHER and made WHOLE. Now we Got God. Now we have received God the RIGHT way. AND WHILE WE ARE ALIVE NOT DEAD. we have over come death and are Alive in CHRIST
I Am Saved
Excellent
I was sorry to hear you misquote scripture, to reinforce you view
You missed the point
Should not the Holy Spirit be a 'him' and not an 'it'? A small but significant grammatic point. And the only pronoun debate that really matters.
done with this dude
So the holy spirit is God, the Father's, spirit. It's not a separate "person".
It is the agency which God, the Father uses to carry out his purposes.
There is no "trinity" of persons who together are the God-Head.
There is God, the Father, who alone is God, and there is Jesus, his son.
Remove person and you get to the truth.
Wholly wrong. Read your Bible and stop making things up.
New movement? There’s nothing new under the sun.
Wynnstay OnTheBay you totally out of context 😜
Riaan Afrikaner how’s that? Explain yourself.
'Under the sun,' yes. But Ecclesiastes says there's more to the world than that. It contrasts 'under the sun' with 'before God' or 'the hand of God' (chapters 2, 3, 5, 9, 11), which shows that you are right, nothing is new under the sun, except for the work of God, who, as I understand it, 'makes all things new.'
Lots of good passages mentioned but this fails to explain how the Holy Spirit works. Jesus said unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood, you have no life in you. So, dear friends, do not be fooled by eloquent words but you must receive the spirit through either the laying on of hands or the consumption of the body and blood. These are referring to the plant that Christ came to give all people that believe in Him. He made that a prerequisite and said "Do not give to dogs that which is sacred". That which is sacred is Kaneh Bosm that grew plentiful in the area and was what God had told Moses to make the bitter water sweet. And in Exodus 30, Moses was told to make a Holy Anointing Oil from the same plant but the Bibles were corrupted so that you will not find the correct formula. Through the years, the Hebrews lost all that information but Jesus came to give this to all people that believed in Him. It provides the oil of joy and it provides supernatural empowerment. The oil was no longer reserved for just kings and priests but was for all men who believed in Jesus as the Son of God.
The language of Christ about eating and drinking his body and blood deals with how the priests would eat a portion of the sacrifices that came to the temple. Leviticus 6:16-18 is a reference that I can think of off the top of my head. So Christ is saying, in John 6:56, that you are to be gathered together over the word of the gospel like the sacrifices given in the temple to the priests. You can see Christ use similar language in John 6:56, concerning abiding in him and us in Christ, in John 15:7. That means the body and blood, which are the words of the new covenant, are what we gather together and celebrate over. That is how we have fellowship and abide in Christ through the body and blood. The sacrifices of the new covenant inaugurated through his body and blood.
So you cannot get it through heart felt prayer to God?
So you cannot get it through heart felt prayer to God?
N’importe quoi
Im sorry to hear you misquote scripture...
Sorry Tom but this is the future. We are in the hereafter in Jesus' own words. We have the Holy Trinity as witness to our faith, all prophecy was fulfilled, heavenly judgement of Jesus Christ awaits.
The trinity is a lie that came out of the Catholic church around the time of the Catholic Council of Nicea (325AD). The Holy Spirit is God, the Father's spirit. He is holy, and he is spirit. He pours out His spirit on whomever he wishes. It is God, the Father's, spirit that enlivens every living creature.
I wish I could downvote this a million times
If you remove Catholic church and person, you get to Creation of all that is.
Your statement here is one that is familiar to me as I was a JW for decades, and they taught this. I have been learning church history since leaving that belief system and it does not take long to see it is not factual. The Roman Catholic Church was not in existence yet at the Council of Nicea. The deity of Christ and of the Holy Spirit were being questioned at that time. The consensus over time by reputable true Bible scholars is that God of the Bible is a God head made up of three individual persons. No, the Trinity is not easy to explain human terms. But how small are you willing to make God just to be able to explain to yourself using rationalism who He is? Watchtower made a god in their image. A god who is not omnipresent nor omniscient. They made gods of themselves and removed both Jesus and the Holy Spirit. I left them when I realized they teach another christ and a false Gospel. The scriptures are clear about avoiding such ones.
A Great Fool is beautifully describing his Foolishness.
Why don’t you go ahead and describe your point?
It’s easy to call someone fool. But you gotta realize you’re actually worse than the fool if you’re not doing anything other than making fun of them.
So go ahead.
@@herosimba1
I agree with you completely.
so I am describing my point as you told -
People are not so Fool anymore that they
would believe another human being as God.
If someone claim he is God,
And people believe him = Foolish.
If someone not claim he is God,
Yet people believe he is God = Crazy Lunatic.
Not a single verse in Bible where Jesus himself say's
''Believe that I am God''
or
Not a single verse in Bible where Jesus himself say's
''I am equal to God the Father''
or
Not a single verse in Bible where Jesus himself commands
people to worship him.
or
Not a single verse in Bible where Jesus himself says,
'' I am the 2nd person of Trinity''
or
Not a single verse in Bible where Jesus himself says,
God is Three in One.
or
Not a single verse in Bible where Jesus himself says,
''Holy spirit'' is the third person of the Trinity.
The word ''Trinity'' does not exist in the whole Bible.
Yet my beloved Christian's believe Jesus is God & worship him.
Will you not ever turn on your common sense, my dear ?
Why don't you understand God can not be a Human ???
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How I wonder !
in this 21st century when people are well educated,
Yet there are some who are so idiot that they think a human being is God !!!
I am not an atheist.
I strictly believe in One God.
But have you ever thought about your belief ?
Suppose you born 2050 years ago.
and you were put in charge to take care of baby Jesus.
The baby Jesus pooped. . .
Just imagine & visualize,
''You are changing the diaper of God'' !!!
The Creator of The Heavens & the earth !!!
If that scene could give life to your dead ''common sense'' !!
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DON'T GRIEVE THE HOLY SPIRIT. THIS MAN OF GOD IS TEACHING ACCURATE ABOUT THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD. 🙌
AMEN. LOVE YOU SO MUCH SWEET DIVINE GENUINE HOLY SPIRIT~ LORD'S SPIRIT. ❤️❤️
AMEN.