Crystal Moselle and the Angulo family introduce their film "The Wolfpack" at DOC NYC 2015
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Thom Powers interviews Crystal Moselle and members of the Angulo family about their film 'The Wolfpack' at DOC NYC."
I just found these guys today...I was captivated by their story....The way they use to live..is kinda like how I've lived..but different...so I can relate very well in my mind to them....I sure wish someday I could meet them..just to talk about our lives...and now that I am still in the beginning of coming back out into the world..I find that I now have books to write....to help people....
That's really cool, Loretta. How does your style of writing for your book compare to your style of writing UA-cam comments? If you need any help, maybe I could interview you and help you write a rough copy of your book. I do a lot of work with children helping them write their thoughts and explore their ideas as a homeschooling teacher and tutor. 🙂
This is a very long comment, but it’s mainly made for these brothers. I wish it’s found by at least one of them & gets read it. In this interview they were very young, still teenagers, youth is beautiful but doesn’t give anyone wisdom to understand & be fair. Without knowledge will be too hard to understand & will be imposible to forgive. Sometimes only time to process...
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People from opposite cultures have different way of thinking & living.
Can you imagine to move from the Peruvian Andes, where life is much calmed & quiet, than the noisy & dangerous New York life? Specially for someone with a particular point of view of life.
Poorest people from poor countries have the tendency to think that wealthy countries are the worse & they live to complain & disagree with their system. Some people will have socialist ideologies.
And depending from where they are coming from, they will live their village cultural beliefs & customs, which wil greatly contrast, with the beliefs & customs of that new big cosmopolitan world, where the stereotype life seems to be too sophisticated to put up with.
Suzanne made a big mistake marrying a rebel villager. A man with his own social & cultural traditions which can became barriers in another world. Then they moved to the craziest, biggest most dangerous city as NY is, especially if they end up living in an unsafe, unkind & unattractive neighborhood. Unattractive in terms of not having access to green nature & unkind because people aren’t the most kind in New York.
It seems like Oscar (the father) was petrified of what he saw in his new environment, not compared with his Peruvian beautiful, peaceful & quiet mountains to hike whenever he wanted to, the rivers & lakes to swim whenever he wanted to. No NY couldn’t be compared with the warmth & kindness of the humble villagers, with who he surrounded with, his whole life. Nobody knows what unkind & sad experiences he may encountered in NY neighborhood, which hasn’t been told in this story, but left him with deep scars to the point of becoming an obsessed paranoid with the safetiest way of keeping his family protected.
There is a post traumatic cultural shock, which manifests as trauma, this could be the case. From the description, given by his kids & wife in the film, I can tell that he suffered from severe depresión... The drinking, the isolation, his irritability, his moodiness, his constant worries & fear & his lack of self motivation, are some most common symptoms of anxiety & severe depression, illnesses that requires medical treatment to cope & be able to manage to live a normal life. It could have been the case that he also suffered from some other disorders as well. I work in psychiatric hospitals, so I can recognized the symptoms described on him.
Anyone can end up developing these illnesses, if life circumstances changes for worse. If there is a stressful life with no joy & pleasure, but with excessive worries.
It’s not easy to leave your own country, your surroundings, your life, your customs, even if your life wasn’t the most beautiful life, but it was the life you felt confortable living in. Same thing happens with food, it’s not easy to adjust to new tastes, actually, food is what makes us feel at home, connected with our culture & with love.
And what about the freedom, the gift & privilege of accessing the hometown mountains & take hikes. The rivers & lakes to swim. Your family to laugh & cry. Your pets to love & play.... imagine that suddenly all of that gets replaced for one big, dangerous & lonely jungle of concrete, where people looks at you with unkindness gestures or indifference, where discrimination screams aloud on your face & you’re too old to easily adjust to the happiness of this new life.... and you hear & know about crime, about evil people who might be awaiting around the corner to hurt you or hurt you beloved children.
Then it will be normal to feel scared, unsafe & stuck!
I imagine that he must have heard & seen atrocities done to people in those streets. I will probably feel like I have moved from paradise to live in hell.
Then I will get homesick... which probably will lead me to anxiety & great depression.
For those whom don’t know; Cusco, is one of the most beautiful, peaceful & sacred cities in Peru, surrounded by majestic mountains & virgin nature, where spirituality is present in every day life. Spirituality & knowladge is passed traditionally from the ancestors to the new generations, Each village has its own traditions, customs & believes. Children are raised based on the tradition, kids are supposed to follow the customs & traditions. Some people like these brothers will called rules. It’s what parents have done for generations, teaching them values & discipline. Everyone raised in the 60’s, in the 70’s or before, will probably follow his traditional beliefs with his kids. In this culture their believes are well respected, because they come from their ancestors & they have followed for their whole lives. This is what I know, about Peruvian culture.
Not cutting their hair & keep it long represents power. Believe in higher powers, believed & trusting their own intuition is their trait. Believing in natural medicine, in the power of nature within yourself is their trait. Believe in ayahuasca is their trait. Believe that evil lives outside, on the strests & believe that it won’t get to you, if you’re inside of your house, is their trait. I assume Oscar was born in the 60’s or in the 70’s ?
It’s very easy to judge without knowing the facts of each individual. What I have heard from everyone including his wife is that Oscar, was afraid of strangers. That he wanted to protected his family.
I assumed that his biggest fear was to lose one of them.
I assumed that his biggest fear was to seeing them hurt, perhaps he was afraid of seeing them dead? Or seeing them as one of those drug addicts lying on the streets pavement, which is the same as having lost a child! Or was he scared of not seeing one of them again, because one of them was kidnapped & killed by some crazy dude? Specially his kids for having an indigenous looks. Racism exist & outthere are evil people hurting those most vulnerable, as precious children are.
Maybe for this father, the best way to protect his kids, was by keeping them inside his home, at all times & under lock. Perhaps it was his only way to control his own anxity & his fears of danger.
These brothers should go visit his father’s small village in Cusco, to then compare with NY slums life rhythm, maybe then, they will get a better sense of understanding, why his father became depressed, anxious & highly paranoid, to hide, & numb his fears, his frustrations, his sadness, his anxiety & depression drinking alcohol....
And for those who have wondered why Oscar, didn’t return to his village, if he felt so unsafe & miserable in NY? Well maybe he didn’t have the guts to go back, maybe there was concerns about inmigration process. Isn’t so easy to pack & return, especially having small children... when there are children & there isn’t financial solvency, life becomes very complicated to just pack & go back.
That’s why women need to take control of their bodies & work on birth control, without asking anyones permission. DIU, pills & condoms exists for several decades, the only thing is needed is to want to do it. Specially if I live in scarcity, specially if my husband has issues, like mental illness, alcoholism, especially if his cultural barriers & ignorance are keeping my children & I, trapped, captured.
Then, I will take my power & intelligence back to manage the number of children that I should have. I assumed Suzanne leave her appartment, at least seven times, to get to the hospital to give birth to her children, there was her opportunity to ask for help to doctors with birth control. Otherwise it will be very hard to breakdown the scarcity cycle, life in extreme poverty isn’t fun at all, life without covering the essential needs is too depressive, it’s a nightmare for everyone.
And if things weren’t working in NY, then I would have used all of my skills to convince my husband to return all together to his village to work hard & raise our kids in an open door environment, surrounded with mountains, rivers & cattle. Life for sure will be tough, but at least the kids would be running everywhere.
I’m not here to judge anyone, but to highlight some important points that nobody takes in consideration before judging someone.
I assume that their decisions, as adults, were taken based on their own very difficult circumstances.
I totally get it!
The best of luck & Gods blessings to each of them, including Mr. Angulo.
For who has been emotional tortured & mistreated by their monstrousness father, since he has been painted in that way, a father who did not allowed them to have any contact with anyone from the outside world, they seem to have the best communication skills, even better than the finest & well educated people!
Something tells me that the story hasn’t been told with the complete truth.
I have watched their documentary & their interviews several times & found facts that makes me think that there is some deegre of exaggeration.....
I feel very sorry for all of them, including both of their parents, because most of time, when parents do harmful things to their children, is with best intentions, not wanting to hurt them at all.
One thing to learn from this story is to never have children if one of the two aren’t emotionality & financially stable. Or if their culture, customs & believes are going to negatively impact the life of my kids. Hopefully they have found understanding & forgiveness for their father as well. Forgiveness is a gift from God to freedom our own selves.
Right!! Their parents did great with education, They allowed the children to create, make messes, they taught the boys to cook, to get along, work as a team. Even Dad jumped in and helped. He got them cameras to work with themselves, musical instruments, nice clothes. REMEMBERING 9-11 hit at this time I was also a terrified parents in NY who wanted to keep kids close. That was likely the year they didnt go out much.
Now they will see and live in this sick, cruel, and evil world....
True That!! That was a protected haven compared to the shit going on out here!! I wish I would have got paid to home school my kids! I loved being a mom!!
How come we never ever see the one sister. She is barely ever spoken about.
She was born with Travelers Disease. She is seen briefly when the family goes to visit their mom family in Lake Michigan.
I love the idea of a place where distressed moms & children can go. However- I have been a “prisoner” and there is no way I could have escaped. It took me 15 years to get the strength to get out.
May God bless the family to move on to more and better things it was god who made that miracle come about with those boys meeting that young lady who was in filming who helped the boys to get a new leaf on life for the better
I just wondered why the mom never made the effort to get her children out from under the way their father was but it tooked that one boy to make the move toward getting out of that kind of life thank God he did because now they have a better life