The ABC telecasts from 1972 and 1976 are at the top of my list to see. Hopefully theyll be available some time. Younger fans need to see these for sure.
Perhaps, but they were death machines. I actually quite like the new cars. I think the windscreen looks really cool and all the aero looks good. Additionally, they’re faster around every type of circuit.
@@henryh.489they look good but the innovation and different design concepts where the cool thing about the old days. That is totally gone in Indy car today.
And they really had some good drivers in the sixties, the fifties, the forties, the thirties, the twenties, the teens, the eighties, the nineties, the aughts, and the teens.
McLaren actually snuck in the wings in 1971, because according to the USAC rules, any aerodynamic devices had to be molded into the bodywork...the average speed for the “pole” winner went up 8 mph from 1970.. Then, in 1972, USAC said “OK....you can mount them on.”....the speeds climbed a whopping 18 mph in one year. I seriously don’t think anyone was ready for that....especially since those things were still carrying 75 gallons of fuel. (Fast forward to 1973)
I could listen to Tom Carnegie read the dictionary. My favorite memories are with his voice booming around the track through the public address system.
Here's what Indycar said on its website about to bring this (AWESOME!) tape and not the full race yet: "We planned to show the complete broadcast of the 1972 Indianapolis 500 this week, but we had a technical difficulty. So the Classic Rewind is the 1972 Indianapolis 500 film. It’s time for a Classic Rewind story because we have some explaining to do. When we asked for requests for this week’s race, we got some really good suggestions from some of our most loyal viewers. With Team Penske celebrating its 50th anniversary recently, we selected the 1972 Indianapolis 500 as this week’s race. We went to the tape library and started the process of making this race available. And then disaster struck. About halfway through the race, the tape cut out. We’re working to get a new copy of the race and hopefully will show it at a later date. But we didn’t want to fully disappoint you, so here’s the film of the 1972 race, with narration from Tom Carnegie."
Still hoping that we can at least see what exists of the ABC telecast. Noticed that Indycar found the full, undamaged 1977 broadcast and shared it this month. Good news!
This was the first year I attended the "500" so I didn't get to watch the TV coverage, and of course it was before VCRs so I've NEVER had a chance to watch the race except from across the track to the pit entrance. Please see if you can dig that year's show up. Thanks in advance.
I was pointing out the fact that, at that particular point, speeds suddenly increased dramatically with the introduction of wings. The cars themselves were not built to withstand impacts 20+ miles per hour faster than before, making a crash much more risky. Safety protocols improved obviously, but initially it was pretty intense. I'm glad safety has come as far as it has today. In terms of your idiotic rhetoric at the beginning, not even worth the time.
For anyone remotely interested in the technicalities, these cars were running just over 50 psi of boost or manifold pressure, whatever you best know it as. This went on one more year until the rules were changed. Less boost and less on board fuel. This was prompted by Swede Savage's catastrophe in 73.
I agree.Three drivers in 1972 and 1973 (Jim Malloy,Art Pollard,and Swede Savage) lost their lives.Including Salt Walther's horrible wreck....it was the most dangerous era of Indy Car racing.The pole speed jumped from 170 to 179 between 1970 and 1971.With the big wings bolted on,Bobby Unser ripped off two laps at 196 (!) in 1972 enroute to a 194+ average. Similarly....in 1997 the speeds in CART had reached ridiculous levels.I believe Mauricio Gugelmin ran a 241 at Fontana.That was the last straw and led to the Hanford device for the 1998 superspeedway races.This produced some of the greatest racing I ever witnessed in person. Good information on the boost.I knew they reduced the fuel loads starting in 1974.
@@asianoramaagain2269 I stand corrected...Gil set his record at Fontana qualifying in 2000 , not Michigan...241+...Gugelmin broke that??? I honestly don't recall anyone going faster.
Bobby Unser's pole run in 1972 was one for the ages. Went faster until lap 3 and brought Indianapolis close to the 200 mph lap. Dan Gurney playing around with wings was most responsible for the gain in speed. Little strips of aluminum that slid onto the trailing edges of the wings came to be known as Gurney Flaps. 1972 was the first Indy that I really paid attention to, at the age of 10. But I was rooting against Mark Donohue for the win.
Was that James Garner at 14:18? I know he was usually at the 500 back then and has driven the pace car on a few occasions, but I never saw him with a beard. But I believe that was him.
this was the last year of beast motor street cars, the next year cars were severely depowered because of the gas situation, surprised the pace cars could even do 80mph in '73 with v8's that only put out 140hp and the same motor 2 years earlier put out 400. That had to be frusterating to car guys of that time.
Nobody turns left better than us Americans! Yeah, international participation means a bigger talent pool and a bigger audience. A little F1 influence & experience is no bad thing either. It's another world that from a distance looks a lot like Indycar.
Any update on the '72 ABC broadcast video? I see that RTV6's UA-cam "The Indy Channel" Has a Road to Indy 1972 video that has several short clips from the ABC tape. Can we please see what exists in full? The 1970s are one of the most cherished periods of Indy racing. Please post what you have of 1972 and 1976...!
Yeah, the good old days of crashes involving invisible fire, often serious to critical injuries, and the odd fatality - and not always the drivers. Those were the days... I prefer racing without all that. It's more fun.
With the addition of the wings the speeds went up dramatically. Of course, the next year the cars began flirting with the 200 MPH barrier. Unfortunately, the higher speeds led to concerns about safety and unfortunately those fears became a reality, especially in the aftermath of Swede Savage's horrific crash.
+indycar, any update on your efforts to post the complete original ABC 2-hour tape delayed broadcast yet? You see, this is from my birth year of '72, native Hoosier born in South Bend, I've been among Indianapolis 500's biggest fans since 1983. I remember 1977 had similar problems when ESPN Classic made their attempt at rebroadcasting it quite a few years ago. IF not, then please post 1976, its 40th Anniversary, 1968 & 1965 when you have time, thanks. 8-)
You can google those races. Also you can purchase decades of races. I've got 60s thru 80s some on dvd & VHS. I'll be able to watch VHS until the zenith gives out.lol
It's really interesting, this is the first year of wings. Someone figured out to use wings, and just look at the difference between the 1971 and 1972 cars. Honestly, how hard was it to figure this out?
They weren't allowed to have rear wings until 1972. Until then they had to persuade the officials that it was part of the engine cover. Then they gave up policing it.
It's interesting that Dodge and Plymouth introduced "wings" that would produce over 600lbs of downforce with their Daytona and Superbird (respectively) models in '69 and '70 in order to dominate the NASCAR superspeedways at Daytona and Talledega. They performed _very_ well on those high speed tracks, with Buddy Baker posting a >200mph lap in a Dodge Daytona Jan. 1970... three years before anyone did that in an open-wheel Indy car.
Love watching the pole day qualifying. You could tell Tom Carnegie knew it was a special day. RIP Uncle Bobby.
The ABC telecasts from 1972 and 1976 are at the top of my list to see. Hopefully theyll be available some time. Younger fans need to see these for sure.
The first Indy race I remember as a kid, RIP uncle Bobby!
The old cars look alot cooler too me than these new ones
For Sure! Granatelli ,Pat Patrick, Gurney , Foyt,Penski, Vels Parnelli Jones Among others all had different concept cars & chassis
Perhaps, but they were death machines. I actually quite like the new cars. I think the windscreen looks really cool and all the aero looks good. Additionally, they’re faster around every type of circuit.
@@henryh.489 I like cars that can crash mightily and the driver climbs out and walks away unharmed, and not engulfed in invisible flames.
@@henryh.489they look good but the innovation and different design concepts where the cool thing about the old days. That is totally gone in Indy car today.
Mark Donahue. My favorite driver when I was a kid. His Sunoco special is on display in the speedway museum.
Me too Hoosier daddy
This is a great video, recapping the entire 1972 event.
The video quality is pretty darn good, too!
All right stop! Collaborate and listen!
I love the 'oh by the way - he died later' comment. Shows how far racing has come.
Races nearly always stop for a death now.
They really had some good drivers back then I remember as a kid hearing those names all the time ,Unser,Foyt,Alleson,Andretti
Me too buddy
And they really had some good drivers in the sixties, the fifties, the forties, the thirties, the twenties, the teens, the eighties, the nineties, the aughts, and the teens.
McLaren actually snuck in the wings in 1971, because according to the USAC rules, any aerodynamic devices had to be molded into the bodywork...the average speed for the “pole” winner went up 8 mph from 1970..
Then, in 1972, USAC said “OK....you can mount them on.”....the speeds climbed a whopping 18 mph in one year.
I seriously don’t think anyone was ready for that....especially since those things were still carrying 75 gallons of fuel.
(Fast forward to 1973)
What a time.wow!
I was only 6 years old, when that all happens ;) Thx to this awesome footage!
I could listen to Tom Carnegie read the dictionary. My favorite memories are with his voice booming around the track through the public address system.
Here's what Indycar said on its website about to bring this (AWESOME!) tape and not the full race yet:
"We planned to show the complete broadcast of the 1972 Indianapolis 500 this week, but we had a technical difficulty. So the Classic Rewind is the 1972 Indianapolis 500 film.
It’s time for a Classic Rewind story because we have some explaining to do.
When we asked for requests for this week’s race, we got some really good suggestions from some of our most loyal viewers.
With Team Penske celebrating its 50th anniversary recently, we selected the 1972 Indianapolis 500 as this week’s race. We went to the tape library and started the process of making this race available.
And then disaster struck. About halfway through the race, the tape cut out. We’re working to get a new copy of the race and hopefully will show it at a later date.
But we didn’t want to fully disappoint you, so here’s the film of the 1972 race, with narration from Tom Carnegie."
Still hoping that we can at least see what exists of the ABC telecast. Noticed that Indycar found the full, undamaged 1977 broadcast and shared it this month. Good news!
This was the first year I attended the "500" so I didn't get to watch the TV coverage, and of course it was before VCRs so I've NEVER had a chance to watch the race except from across the track to the pit entrance. Please see if you can dig that year's show up. Thanks in advance.
The year we got introduced to the concept of faster equals "don't crash or you're probably going to die."
I was pointing out the fact that, at that particular point, speeds suddenly increased dramatically with the introduction of wings. The cars themselves were not built to withstand impacts 20+ miles per hour faster than before, making a crash much more risky. Safety protocols improved obviously, but initially it was pretty intense. I'm glad safety has come as far as it has today.
In terms of your idiotic rhetoric at the beginning, not even worth the time.
@@sludge4125 what happened in 73 ?
@@mikew3494 73 was one of the worst years ever if I remember right, crash death wise.
@@mikew3494 You are right. Three (3) people died at Indy, although only one (1) driver during the race.
A terrible year. 😢
@@mikew3494 Fire, fragmentation, and DEATH!!!
Muito obrigada pelo vídeo! Amei❤️
Fã da história das 500 milhas!
8:50 He said that so calmly that I was sure they gonna play vivacious music after this
🏎️🏁
The narration is great. Like Poems of the Midwest Hippy.
Tom Carnegie.... R.I.P....
For anyone remotely interested in the technicalities, these cars were running just over 50 psi of boost or manifold pressure, whatever you best know it as. This went on one more year until the rules were changed. Less boost and less on board fuel. This was prompted by Swede Savage's catastrophe in 73.
I agree.Three drivers in 1972 and 1973 (Jim Malloy,Art Pollard,and Swede Savage) lost their lives.Including Salt Walther's horrible wreck....it was the most dangerous era of Indy Car racing.The pole speed jumped from 170 to 179 between 1970 and 1971.With the big wings bolted on,Bobby Unser ripped off two laps at 196 (!) in 1972 enroute to a 194+ average.
Similarly....in 1997 the speeds in CART had reached ridiculous levels.I believe Mauricio Gugelmin ran a 241 at Fontana.That was the last straw and led to the Hanford device for the 1998 superspeedway races.This produced some of the greatest racing I ever witnessed in person.
Good information on the boost.I knew they reduced the fuel loads starting in 1974.
Thanks !
@@asianoramaagain2269
Actually, it was Gil deFerren at Michigan.
@@Chatta-Ortega What year are you talking about? 1997 was the top of the speed mountain in CART.
@@asianoramaagain2269
I stand corrected...Gil set his record at Fontana qualifying in 2000 , not Michigan...241+...Gugelmin broke that??? I honestly don't recall anyone going faster.
Bobby Unser's pole run in 1972 was one for the ages. Went faster until lap 3 and brought Indianapolis close to the 200 mph lap. Dan Gurney playing around with wings was most responsible for the gain in speed. Little strips of aluminum that slid onto the trailing edges of the wings came to be known as Gurney Flaps.
1972 was the first Indy that I really paid attention to, at the age of 10. But I was rooting against Mark Donohue for the win.
This is great stuff, thanks for posting !
Was that James Garner at 14:18? I know he was usually at the 500 back then and has driven the pace car on a few occasions, but I never saw him with a beard. But I believe that was him.
Good eye. That was James. He did have a beard then
Been to Indianapolis Speedway - amazing place
Indy racing was soooo much better back then. The cars were all different and the drivers were real men!
Without a doubt.
The narrator sounds like legendary Indy 500 announcer Tom Carnegie.
It is!!!!!!
See the ending credits
Nobody will ever replace Tom.
19:45 that guy has A GAS CAN ON HIS BACK. 💥🔥
4:50 that inferno sound effect for that small fire is hilarious....lmao
this was the last year of beast motor street cars, the next year cars were severely depowered because of the gas situation, surprised the pace cars could even do 80mph in '73 with v8's that only put out 140hp and the same motor 2 years earlier put out 400. That had to be frusterating to car guys of that time.
We thought it was the end of fun with cars in America. Things didn't start to get better until 1983.
Dangerous times...they were figuring out the aerodynamics and speed but the safety hadn't caught up yet
Last Indy 500 to feature all American drivers
fueldragster ...Notable and a reason for some pride, however I think international participation is healthy for the event.
Nobody turns left better than us Americans! Yeah, international participation means a bigger talent pool and a bigger audience. A little F1 influence & experience is no bad thing either. It's another world that from a distance looks a lot like Indycar.
Mario was born in Italy, but was an American citizen. (Which makes him an American.)
Any update on the '72 ABC broadcast video? I see that RTV6's UA-cam "The Indy Channel" Has a Road to Indy 1972 video that has several short clips from the ABC tape. Can we please see what exists in full?
The 1970s are one of the most cherished periods of Indy racing. Please post what you have of 1972 and 1976...!
My first Indy 500. Great memories. These were the “ Good Old Days “
Yeah, the good old days of crashes involving invisible fire, often serious to critical injuries, and the odd fatality - and not always the drivers. Those were the days... I prefer racing without all that. It's more fun.
With the addition of the wings the speeds went up dramatically. Of course, the next year the cars began flirting with the 200 MPH barrier. Unfortunately, the higher speeds led to concerns about safety and unfortunately those fears became a reality, especially in the aftermath of Swede Savage's horrific crash.
its amazing how much faster indy is today
No doubt. They're so fast I can't even see car numbers or everyone who's driving what from north Vista
+indycar, any update on your efforts to post the complete original ABC 2-hour tape delayed broadcast yet? You see, this is from my birth year of '72, native Hoosier born in South Bend, I've been among Indianapolis 500's biggest fans since 1983. I remember 1977 had similar problems when ESPN Classic made their attempt at rebroadcasting it quite a few years ago. IF not, then please post 1976, its 40th Anniversary, 1968 & 1965 when you have time, thanks. 8-)
You can google those races. Also you can purchase decades of races. I've got 60s thru 80s some on dvd & VHS. I'll be able to watch VHS until the zenith gives out.lol
Go Irish 🏈
8 years before my 1st 500
Hoping some more film turns up. It's not good when a ~3 hour race starts with 10 minutes left in the video.
4:10 lol one man with his dog
4:43 LOL sound fx sounded like 10 cars all crashing at once
Even the skid effect at 23:59
What the ****? No Jim Nabors??!?
There is no justice.
That number system on the fence was really dumb back then. Never worked and only lasted the one year as far as I can remember back.
The man with his dog is pretty funny
It wasn't on tv in the 70 s it was tape delay and shown later that night
Actually the wings make the eagle not fly.
This open formula thinking should return.
And its a new track record
Nice
...Man the Hurst Blonde !
Linda Vaughn!!!!!!!!!!!
She had some very large lungs.... I saw her at the 500 in 73....
It's really interesting, this is the first year of wings. Someone figured out to use wings, and just look at the difference between the 1971 and 1972 cars. Honestly, how hard was it to figure this out?
why didn't you suggest this 10 years ago you could have been a millionaire by now if it was that easy for you to figure out.
They weren't allowed to have rear wings until 1972. Until then they had to persuade the officials that it was part of the engine cover. Then they gave up policing it.
The 1968 Lotus 49 is considered the first formula car with wings
It's interesting that Dodge and Plymouth introduced "wings" that would produce over 600lbs of downforce with their Daytona and Superbird (respectively) models in '69 and '70 in order to dominate the NASCAR superspeedways at Daytona and Talledega. They performed _very_ well on those high speed tracks, with Buddy Baker posting a >200mph lap in a Dodge Daytona Jan. 1970... three years before anyone did that in an open-wheel Indy car.
“Hail our old Purdue”
With all due respect..... F##k Purdue...
Tom was the man
Man tom was busy lol
Grant *had* to be disqualified. He claimed/whined it was a simple mistake, but that is/was irrelevant.
Safety First!
You mean "Safety third" back then.
@@williamgreene4834 yep, rip malloy
Linda Vaughn at 13:50.
Still doing personal appearances today!
YEP!!!!
Thanks for pointing that out, sir!!
And all this speed was thanks to “Gurney flap”
Uncle Bobby wants a word with you 😄
I came here to see the pit tractors
4:42 oh
I was a year old Milford indiana
So, that makes you a Loosier.
@@sludge4125 hahahahahaha
@@mikew3494 Sorry. 🤪🤪🤪
the areos are hilarious..
Aye. Where the whole video
They are working on it.
8:39 Jim Malloy dies
The wings ruined open wheel racing
They ruined.,NASCAR also, led to Mr.France banning everything.
😃👶🏻🏆😃
USAC snuffed out innovation . What a bunch of you know whats.
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