Dan Barber: A surprising parable of foie gras
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- www.ted.com At the Taste3 conference, chef Dan Barber tells the story of a small farm in Spain that has found a humane way to produce foie gras. Raising his geese in a natural environment, farmer Eduardo Sousa embodies the kind of food production Barber believes in.
One of the best TED talks I've seen! This has GOT to be one of the ways forward if we are to save our planet: Re-structure farming / agriculture.
Coming back to watch this video again 11 years after I first watched it. Still as enlightening and amazing as the first time I watched it. Gives me a sense of awe for nature and the farmers doing extensive farming instead of intensive. Great job.
I've seen this video a dozen times, and a dozen times it has moved me, both by Dan's eloquent story-telling talent and by Eduardo's marvelous approach to foie-gras production
Same here. Videos like this are inspiring and give me hope. Maybe a little cheesy to say, but it's how I'm feeling.
Yes!!!
You’ll be surprised to know that Eduardo’s way of making foie gras is actually the original way of making foie gras… it wasn’t invented by the French but by the Romans.
And they made it exactly like Eduardo😊
Quite fascinating in my opinion😅
Fun fact to anyone reading this. Insider business made a video about eduardo and his farm.
Dan Barber has such a way with words. Can make any story captivating, his passion for food really shines through the way he speaks.
Dan Barber is one of the most important chefs this world has right now.
I've never understood that personally. In my country the vast majority of cows are pasture-fed, "grain-fed" beef is only grain-fed for the last 3 months of the cows life to promote fat gain. Grain is far more expensive than grass here.
Factory farming of any kind is an unpleasant affair though. Meat is a luxury really, we've just all gotten too used to being able to get it cheaply. If we paid what it should be worth then animals would be raised better.
500 bucks a kilo for Eduardo's confit
im so glad to see ethical treatment of animals brought to the forefront by someone other than hippies
sustainable agriculture is vital for sustainable human existance
Over the past three years( same amount of time I've been unemployed) I've had the chance to Sit back and watch the Hustle and Bustle of "life" as I knew it from a spectators view. There are so many Unnatural habits people have adopted to increase production and speed of production.. Always at the expense of quality and environment. It's a pleasure to hear the story of Eduardo and his consideration of his geese as they do what they do. Live.
Great story, engaging speaker!
I did watch the video. I still dislike it.
Look, the farmer in this video may treat his animals better than others, but that doesn't make it right.
Compare it with a honest slave-owner: "Oh, hes such a loving adorable person, he treats his slaves good!" and you just might get the point.
This guy runs one of the most toxic and abusive restaurants in the US
lol. i have dan barber for my CIA gastro project right now!
I just picked him as a Chef for my paper 😂
@astephiesteph would you say the same to a broccoli farmer? he loves planting his broccoli so much that he just cuts them in the end.
Just 'cuz ducks have an anatomy a bit closer to us (made out of meat) doesn't mean they are more of a living creature than a plant is. Plants communicate in different ways (chemical concoctions) so they appear to us as a "non-living" creature.
We live off food, we will die eventually, so does geese. Would you rather the geese live a horrible life while they live?
putting vegetable peelings, leaf cutting, lawn mowings in my compost bin produces an incredible amount of insect life all breaking everything down to a teeming pulsating mass of life. Put this in the garden and what grows is full of energy.Couldn't be simpler and more meaningful imo. Every plant, insect , animal and human benefits within this generous environment .
@kinguther0 Agree completely. Awesome video. Only problem with Foie Gras like this, is the way it can become too intense in flavour.
JanetKeleher
There are 10 essential aminoacids that the human must consume for a correct development, 2 of which only come in meat, add to that that most grains on there own don't contain all of the rest of aminoacids. Plus we also need B12, that is found exclusively in meat (vegans have to receive B12 shots monthly) deficiency = Microcitic or Pernicious Anemia and subacute combined spinal cord degeneration. Also, grains and vegetables are usually a very poor source of Niacin = Pellagra.
It would were not for the fact that my answers to those questions differ greatly from yours.
Lol, someone comes up with a humane way to produce Foie Gras and people complain about animal killing for food.
Seriously Vegans, pick your battles. If you aren't happy with the cruelty towards animals, be supportive towards alternatives. If this practice of producing Foie Gras isn't picked up, the force feeding continues. Your complaints towards a humane practice actually keep the force feeding in business.
THIS IS WHAT INFURIATES ME. THEY REJECT ALL PROGRESS EXCEPT TOTAL VEGANISM
compare it with wars, it used to be totally fine to do ANYTHING, like using chemical weapons and starving the population. Now progress is (being) made and circumstances are improved. Does this mean that war is now fine and dandy and isn't bad? No, but progress is progress, so don't get mad for banning chemical weapons but be happy that progress is being made.
GlaciusTS kocM
The world is going to go vegan at some point. Humanity will realize on their futile search of the universe to find life, that the best chances we have are guiding other lifeforms to evolve with dignity. Even if we find a bacterial lifeform on another planet, it will not be as fascinating or evolved as on ours. We will look back on our meat industry in the same way we look back on concentration camps. Except the meat industry is more cruel.
Very Tasteful. Treat other beings as if you were that being. Much more satisfiying than doing into other people like ourselves.
He has some interesting points.
On the one hand I believe that we really have to become more conscious of what we eat for both ethical and environmental reasons. If people would theoretically eat more Kobe meat for example, they would automatically eat less due to its high prices. Which would be good for us (health), the environment (meat "production" is not very ecological) and ethical (the cows get treated very well...
to be continued
Lesson for life. Get all the facts before you make radical sweeping generalizations and call someone out. Watch the whole thing and you'll see...
People eat animals, and your opinion dictates your actions, not anyone else's. You forcing your opinion on a meat eating person would be akin to someone forcing you to eat meat.
Brilliant! Please watch this. :)
@browntran for me it isn't cruel to kill something to EAT it, for me it relies on how you do it, for example the north american meat industry, how they kill animals for mass production in contrast there is Kobe beef or Kosher meat or butcheries where animals live surrounded by nature with enough space for each one instead of crowded rooms without light and where they eat genetically modified food; also there is gabage in France and natural foie gras in Spain and USA,
You still have to kill them though....
Everything dies.
I actually meant that if you could accept your own mortality then you might find it easier to accept eating something that has died. The simple fact of animal death is not the issue, animal welfare is the issue. We need to improve standards of care in animal husbandry.
But they do make a deeeeelicous pate.
Really good speech about this difficult issue. How ever problematic the interest in just a small part of a goose may be - here is the prove to have an ecologially and morally better way to attain it. We don't have to forbid eveything, but we have to think about what we eat, where it comes from and how the animals are treated.
You may also watch the multimedia page of the Pateria de Sousa, it is very interesting too!
anything that feels or has been subjected to "pain" in order you to benefit i would consider disgusting, unless you had no other option to survive.
but last time i checked surviving isn't on my list of worries.
What about human population control? who is controlling that? i seriously dont think we need to control the population of rabbits, birds or whatever those people hunt for. I know most hunters eat what they hunt, but there are also people who hunt for sport, people who kill foxes for no apparent reason, etc. Besides, meat is not necessary in our diet and anyone who has studied the effects of eating meet will tell you it is detrimental to health, how about you tell those hunters to eat some beans
I wouldn't hold it against a hippopotamus if it killed me to defend its young, nor would I deem a whacking great saltwater crocodile to be morally wrong if it consumed me for sustenance. If a goose managed to kill me it wouldn't be in the wrong.
In our society, however, we have submitted to the social contract and we're not permitted to kill or even injure each other whatever the reason.
Most ingratiating video Ive ever watched. This guy feels so guilty about what he is eating he dreams up how he feels about food. And why the necisity to inject "a jew from NY"?
humor. he was playing into his stereotype.
I thought it was called lichin (Liken) bush. Never heard of lupen bush. Anybody have any input on that?
yeah. i'm in the second half. i have raider. at 7 in the am.
Goose Liver ... Mmmmm
Lol best response ever
good job
You did not watch this talk.
Probably not the healthiest food ever.... I'm sure its tasty but I'd never eat something that actually has fat in the name. ^_^
I tried it once. I thought it was absolutely disgusting. Like a giant chunk of fat.
I wasnt talking about hunters who kill for fun, those are all bastards in my opinion. I was talking about the possibility of life as nature intended, however anyone who kills animals for food when they dont really need to is disgusting in my eyes.
I agree about no difference between consumer, worker, hunter, thats why i am so pissed off about it, they are all equally guilty.
However, my point was that if people had to hunt every meal they wouldnt eat so much meat, they wouldnt have the time!
the word "evil" has religious connotations attached, so no. how do you mean offensive, offensive to me, to the animal? you don't fully make yourself clear.
my argument is that if you have a sense of logic and ethics you should pursue that instead of base fetishes.
We may be human, But we are still animals.
why do we not cannibalize our own?
because.... Prion disease.
two wrongs don't make a right...
Uh... According to ancient Egyptian writings, the Torah and what's known as the Old Testament, they have.
I did, although i did write my comment as he said it and therefore way before the end of the video. It is nice that one guy in spain treats the animals like they deserve to be treated, or does he? if he really saw them as his children he wouldn't fucking kill them to make food. I still stand by my comment, that guy is saying some pretty stupid things and I wish assholes like him didnt go around saying stupid things, people who eat animals make me sick. u don't need animal to survive, u r selfish
Why should i not be allowed to give my opinion? I am by no means stoping anyone from eating meat, I am simply voicing my opinion.
Radical? maybe, but humans (or at least some) have enough inteligence to decide what is moraly right or wrong, and breeding animals to kill and eat them when they are not necesary (and are even detrimental) for our survival, just because they taste good is fuckin selfish, hipocritical and fucking stupid. Also Barber makes sweeping statements like the one quoted avobe
I'd just like to know how he eventually harvests his geese. Does he have a humane method for that? Like, does he hire hunters or just trick them into following him into his barn?
Hypnosis, Eduardo finds a group of Geese during a moonless night, and shines a high powered led flashlight at them, the geese follow the light, then the geese are humanly slaughtered, and Eduardo does waste the geese meat, he makes ham.
@Rociero1968 Most organic farming is small business. that's why organic is expensive. Huge commercial farming conglomerates feed off of Federal Tax dollars in the form of farm subsidies. So... the food isn't really "cheap".... you and I are paying for it through taxes. I would really like the farm subsidies to end... like how some people don't like universal health care? So why should my tax dollars go to giant corporations that really don't need it?
Personally i think we should worry about feeding the whole world before we worry about how our agriculture is brought up.
We can already feed the whole world and we could when you made this comment. The problem is distribution. Natural farming techniques bring the food closer to the user. That's not specifically what this video is about , but it's a related issue. Our current techniques are destroying the soil and water that they - and we - depend on, so start worrying about it.
amazing
@browntran they are trying to find a solution where people who enjoy eating meat can do it, but still be human doing eat, I don't see people feeling guilty when the step on an ant, but it's entirely the same as a cow, or even the grass, we are surrounded by living organisms, not moving to avoid harming others wouldn't be the solution, just being conscious about it, how, when, why, where, for whom we do it. and don't do it unless we have to.
don't go vegan on me!
Seriously??? Is this inhumane guy promoting abuse? By saying it's 'humane' doesn't make it so... no one is fooled by his argument. Just to appease his taste for something he's actually condoning the cruelty inflicted on a sentient being. It's as good as condoning rape so that one can appease one's control over another being.
Darshana M are u serious?? rape=having foie???
Darshana M
Have you seen this video?
Where is the abuse?
I learned about Eduardo Souza in a magazine. While I am not totally against force feeding, when done correctly and proper, he is not force feeding at all! The geese [or ducks] are feeding themselves!
Migrating birds are feeding a lot until the winter, when they would fly to other grounds [in Europe it is Africa]. On the way, they eat very less - hence they feed before a lot, to make sure, that they survive.
I guess, the foie is natures energy storage [Birds should not get fat, as they wouldn't be able to fly properly].
So where exactly is the rape? And why rape anyway?
Anyway - hope you will have one day foie gras, to understand, how delicious this is!
"Because chefs don't deserve my foie gras" best line ever.
LoveMattersMost, watch this again before commenting. This video has nothing to do with animal torture.
If you, personally, consider it disgusting then don't partake in meat-eating. Equating the act of taking another human's life to eating fried chicken crosses the line of sane argument.
As Louross of Hell's Kitchen (Season 4) said, "Make love to the fish!"
His Foie Gras is about expressing nature, in its purest form, not about romanticizing brutality. As a chef, it brings tears to my eyes seeing such dedication, such love of the earth and its creatures.
Fair warning! The first 2 mintues of this film will "bother" many. For those of you with patience, a love for the fair treatment of animals, and a sense of self responsibility for the way we treat the earth, this is for you. Enjoy.
When you work with nature, nature works with you.
I love this chef!
Wow some real negative people on here. Thats alright if you are on the CAFTA sites and working hard on those animals behalf. I for one will be looking to see your impact.
Maybe a lot o people are watching on the TED site? At least one would hope so...
As a spokesperson for ethics, Barber is a cut above
It was great up until his story of the jews. Egypt never kept slaves. And it was two Israeli archeologists that discovered this fact.
The Goose Whisperer,
The geese actually squawk to the geese flying by, come eat with us!
When the geese topple our human regime and institute a brutal avian autocracy, only a few chefs will survive the initial carnage.
Wow... Gave me a different perspective of Foie Gras.
and that presenter was awesome.
Amazing. For the disgusted people - please watch again and really try to learn.
This all sounds really amazing. However, how are we going to feed everybody with the good, sound, ecological way?
How do I get this naturally raised Foie gras! I want to eat some. I haven't eaten foie gras in years because of how it's produced.
My problem with vegans (vegetarians are usually less obnoxious) is that they take their lifestyle choice and present it to the rest of the world as moral doctrine. I don't like being preached to no matter what the subject.
Being told by a vegan that eating something tasty is immoral and makes me comparable to a nazi is just as bad as a religious fanatic telling me that having sex when and how I want will earn me a ticket to hell.
Self hatred redirected into guilt about being human, and reinforced by animal rights activism?
What I'm not getting is whether you're getting more worked up over the fact that animals are killed at all, or that some poachers use unnecessarily cruel methods? Yeah, habitats get threatened, that is why we have systems (funded partly by hunting organizations) that research and protect wildlife. If hunting were illegal, poaching would skyrocket and whole populations would be wiped out.
anyone else here from business insider’s foie gras episode?
iosuVakerizzo, people who hunt "for fun" as you put it most usually eat the animal they kill, or donate it to charities that use the meat to feed the hungry. Recreational hunting is also helps with population control, since the amount of predators in most places is relatively low nowadays due to human settlement.
"No force-feeding, no factory-like conditions, no cruelty..." Until it comes time to kill the bird and remove the liver, right? If we're going to eat meat let's be honest about the cruelty of slaughtering animals for food "because they're so freakin' delicious." I'm not opposed to eating animals or foie gras, but come on, it's cruel to kill something and eat it.
Who else is here after that ‘natural foie gras’ vid lol. Man is a legend
Mee!! 😭✋
Excellent! Enlightening.
What about insects, or oysters, or crabs? Or is only immoral to eat the cuddly animals?
apparently our taste buds are more important then their only life
yes
They still both impose personal morals onto other people, which, to me, seems more wrong than eating a burger.
Finally you show signs of having developed a brain. If this is what you'd originally posted, I wouldn't have had to troll it out of you. :)
You are indeed correct in that historical and archeological support for the Exodus is questionable at best.
You'll have to understand, though, that your original statement ("Nice story, but Jews have never been to Egypt.") was blatantly false from the outset. The Exodus not being accurate does not mean no (pre-)jews ever existed in Egypt.
Folks, are you collectively knuckleheads? Did you not actually watch this lecture? You are bantering about whether or not there is morality in our meat-eating habits but not getting the real message here, having little to do with liver or animals and everything to do with the fact that we've forgotten more about tending the Earth than science has taught us.
but isn't that valid? i think that one should be entitled to free speech as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of another. Public acts of discrimination shouldn't be tolerated. I'm not an american but as far as i know, I don't think you can be persecuted unless you are harmful with your words. I don't see any problem with that
it takes 16 lbs of grain to raise 1 lb of meat, and 100 x the H2O. Just sayin, if feeding the starving is at issue, then meat should be off the menu.
We don't have scarcity, we have resource mismanagement (and manufactured/percieved scarcity, thx to marketing, etc.)
peace
a being of such an amount of inteligence should be capable of choosing what is moraly right over what "tastes good". And by the way if you think that killing animals for food is moraly right, then you are not considering this issue in an objective manner. You are purposely(although possibly without realizing) ignoring the way in which some 99% of the animals you eat are being treated(that's right, knowing that someone in spain treats the animals well doesn't change what you actually eat!) + more
And with this i am leaving this conversation, it is very annoying as there isn't enough space here to elavorate on anything properly and i can't be bothered to write any more messages, i hope you read them in the right order or they wont make any sense.
Also I can't be bothered with idiots (not you) with no ideas of their own but who dislike what i am saying because it takes them out of the confort of their mindless routines, and who as a result write back complaining about my spelling.
The disregard some of you people have for animals is disgusting, "oh, we are inteligent enough to exploit animals so why shouldn't we?" well, because if you are inteligent enough you are also inteligent enough to realize that it is moraly wrong to do so, specially to the extend that the western world does today.
It is not the cycle of life, VagabonNinja, it is the exploitation of life.
A lion can't be held responsible for killing another animal, he can't live of vegetables.
An animal inteligent enough to build concentration camps (for cows of for people) and capable of becoming a mass murderer (because someone who hunts to survive is just a hunter, but someone who kills thousands of animals a week is a murderer), this kind of animal, the human animal, with its great intellect, must be responsible of its actions. The human animal's natural diet is, if not completely vegetarian, at least mostly vegetarian, and science will backup this statement time and again.
Why should there be 10 bln stomachs on this planet? Every single species of animal on earth multiplies to a point where environmental attrition inevitably brings it back to it's natural state of misery and starvation.
Aren't we the only species capable of seeing this and therefore capable of acting accordingly? Either we allow nature to take care of the problem (and nature can be harsh) or we do it ourselves (preserving our high standard of living).
I could understand your argument if you were at least advocating sacrificing our high standard of living on the altar of some worthy cause (like freedom and peace). But you're essentially saying we should sacrifice it to increase our numbers (and in the process probably exterminate many more species of animals than we already have).
His taste is more important than the goose , huh , and people think he is bright! Sad indeed
be a vegetarian, not a murderer. sorry for the truthful opinion. we have the technology not to have to eat animals now. so why not do it.
believe that eating animals is along the same lines a believing in creationism.
it doesn't, religious fanatics always want everything to prove that god exists. It doesnt prove that, all it proves is that if you treat animals well they will come to you, even if later they are going to be slaughtered.
you are arrogant enough to say that an animals life is worth less than a humans life. this is cultural insanity. I'm using logic. your the one adhering to needless traditions and opinions.
Very interesting talk, and I hope we move in this direction.
this may true for this farmer but how many others are doing it just to make money. if the treatment of the geese were regulated to see that they were treated humanely there wouldn't be a problem. every living creature on this planet deserves humane treatment.
Eating foie gras is equal to child molestation? I don't like foie gras but you need to get some perspective.
This chef has been a huge inspiration for me. Funny how the comments are here are mostly thoughtful and reasonable.
Now look at them
this makes me feel sick - force fed? seems uncivil if its an animal or not
This is nice but lets be realistic how are you going to feed 10 billion empty stomachs?
HOW ABOUT FIND NEW WAYS TO AVOID EATING ANIMAL PRODUCTS. quite boring and uninspiring
Lions don't make their prey suffer for a life-time.
And I love how you dodged johnyprestige's "two wrongs don't make a right"
no it isn't, because one relies on logic and the other relies on ignorance.
I keep a garden, which acts like a band-aid to my open wound caused by 'fast food', microwave dinners, but, this man, goes the extra step to fulfill the vacuum in the culinary status quo. Food in the most pure, most delicate, and most beautiful form is what makes life special.
It's best with some fava beans and a nice chianti.