A Brief Look at Androgynous Fashion Throughout the Years
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
- In today's video I wanted to talk where androgynous fashion started and where it is today, from trends to corporate queer-washing - we getting into it.
* I AM NOT A RESEARCHER SO IF I'M WRONG, NO, YOU'RE WRONG* lol
0:00 - 2:02 INTRO
2:02 - 4:03 CH 1: It's queer on purpose
4:04 - 7:25 CH 2: Androgyny by design
7:26 - 10:18 CH 3: The power suit
10:19 - 13:29 CH 4: Metrosexuality in men
13:30 - 19:19 CH 5: Androgynous fashion now
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I don’t know this might not be the right place to talk about it but I’ve noticed clothing stores catering less and less to women with larger breasts. Everything is backless braless or has cups built in. I’m finding there’s just less and less tops and dresses I can even buy lately. We’re not all skinny models ya know 😭
Say that
And even women who may not have the perkiest of boobs.. 😅
I wonder if theres a connection between the anti-capitalist ideology developing in gen z and millenials and the workwear trend we're seeing with carhartt, dickies, cargo pants and other workwear items
That's another good topic to hear about !!
@TUbIuyola tell me you don't understand the cyclical nature of fashion without telling me
It could be that. But I think it may also be that comfort, as well as style is another possibility. I used to wear cargoes and khakis almost as much as I wore jeans. I kept all of the ones that were still in good condition, hoping I would get another opportunity to get use from them. Lo and behold, the style came back around. This time, I don’t care what anyone else is wearing. I’ll wear what I like as long as it makes me feel good.
i think there’s some other bigger reasons too. these brands are some of the only mainstream durable items to choose from, as opposed to pricey designer “sustainable” wear. that, and honestly the fact that workwear has been a part of working class & lgbt style for so long, and straight/wealthy people love adopting the look of the working class and queer
Fashion comes from the streets honies. 💪🥷🏻🧚🏼♂️🦺🥾
Amaaaazing video, especially loved the end, nothing but facts. I also want to add that I notice there’s also a very explicit fatphobia (with a racist history itself) and expectation that not only is androgyny white, it’s also very thin. Especially for women and especially within runway and ‘high fashion’ , which ties into so many aspects of misogyny and racism. It’s like, as a woman, to be seen as ‘truly androgynous’ you’ve also got to have no boobs, clothes have to hang off of you, you’ve got to have a defined jaw, and hair has to be above your shoulders or tied up, yaknow? I could talk on end about this topic and how it relates and relies upon so many other ingrained prejudices but yeah thanks for this video, super interesting 🙏🙏
Speaking nothing but facts
yesss! queer history and fashion history, two of my new fave subjects have come together! also, interestingly enough, within european history, men used to have a lot more freedom to be extravagant and play with style a lot more. it wasn't really until the victorian era that we start to see the gender roles we see today surrounding men and fashion. idk why that is exactly. I just know I watched karolina zebrowska's video on it.
i would go so far as to say european trends generally have more freedom when it comes to what is male/masculine. this is why you have the saying in america “that guy is either gay or european”, men have been able to experiment a lot more generally in europe than america
@@adventureswithwonu4467 yes, that's true. I think the focus was on European fashion because American fashion before a certain point has been pretty much erased because of the genocide of Indigenous people. What we generally think of as American fashion starting around the 1600's is really from European colonizers, and men were allowed more freedom until the Victorian era.
Dope video👌🏾 in my British accent *quality babes*🤩😂
this is easily one of my favorite /best videos ive watched on youtube. I feel like you found your sweet spot with this. everything was intentional but also flowed well while providing educational content. you really ate
* finger guns *
just last week, i was searching the internet for info about androgynous history and a few days later you pop out with this! really appreciate your more analysis focused videos - they fill an overlooked but very much needed niche for black queer people that are interested in style 👍🏾
I think it's also very important to add and we shouldn't forget the non-western history of expression and gender
As someone who was a child of the 70s and an adolescent in the 80s: Jade, you nailed the vibe!
AND Metrosexual is *absolutely* femme- and homo- phobic. (Following the math …) I was in my 20s when that term came into use. I can’t speak to the original intent of the guy who coined it, but it’s common use in media and conversation was meant to deliberately distinguish this well put together cis het (white) guy who likes shopping, food, wine and primping himself from similarly appointed members of the gay community. And assigning it to cis het male sexuality carried the added “bonus” of macho’ing it up - distinguishing the metrosexual from the female-identified community who - according to gender norms, have similar priorities and interests (a’hem expectations).
It was also used sarcastically or as a straight-up an insult when said guy was being distinguished from “real men” in any context.
No question it was femme- and homo -phobic - but really, what part of expanding or protecting cultural space for cis het white men isn’t??!!??
Fabulous vid Jade! ❤❤❤
Ooo I love educational videos. 😁great video jade!
I feel like the 90s having more rigid gender norms in fashion was a very American context. Having studied British subcultures, the 90s saw a resurgence of androgynous aesthetics in rock, particularly with Justine Frischmann of elastica, Brett Anderson of Suede, and Skin of Skunk Anansie (though the latter two were openly queer). Even in the US, I recall Kurt Cobain wearing flower dresses on stage and Dennis Rodman's infamous wedding dress photoshoot. Aside from that, your video was well-documented, thank you!
I love everything about this video! I am new to your channel and so thrilled to find you Jade! You are truly an authentic soul and I love both your style and your candor. I am a 60 yr gender queer and had a mom who embraced my uniqueness, incl style even in the 70's! I borrowed my dad's ties, wore suits with vests, platform shoes (I often fashioned myself after Elton John) and it was truly empowering. I love your emphasis in many of your videos about wearing whatever - with confidence!
Hi Jade, I love that you're making a statement and all the work you put into showing the connection between crises, political life and fashion trends.
What I missed: the "accessibility" of fashion that you describe starting around the 90s and metrosexual trend is heavily connected to the rise of the internet. People could see more pictures and different styles from all over the world of what was considered fashionable - so they wanted them; brands could advertise more in quantity and speed; but also the shift in communication system connected production (and sales) places more - so more and different clothes could be produced and sold in shorter time. This means designing and production work quicker together, "ressources" can be found more easily on a global scale - all leading to prices for fashion dropped extremely, making it more accessible for more consumers - but also more exploitive. The ressources most important to the fashion industry is cheap labour. Another important factor is cheap chemical treatment for the fabrics, meaning low ecological standards at the production place (basically if I can dump my shit just in the river that's cheap).
Now this is all not new, good old Fast Fashion, we know it. It is still the root of the problem you are describing: black and brown lives aren't valued. They globally speaking do not have the money to buy fancy clothes because they shall produce them for 1 cent per seam and shall pack them at the warehouse for poverty wages. So clothes are also not designed for them, especially not wirhin a considered niche market as androgyn fashion.
Sure that is shifting now, you said there's Asos, Fendy Beauty etc. Overall the accessibility for fashion is growing - but within certain lines. And these lines must exist - society must not shift too quickly, too much, otherwise production to this exceed in speed and diversity cannot function. That's why I put "accessibility" in quotes - and that's why I don't agree with your conclusion. Life of Black and Brown people (and queer people, cause gender is another layer here) won't become better on a global scale and also not in the US just because you can buy a T-Shirt in a different size. It does change a bit of the perception of certain priviledged people. But in the end it's just masking a systemic problem.
Now I know this comment might seem hypocritical and inconsistent to post on a fashion channel. I don't wanna bash your work; it's no personal critic against you. I feel it is important how fashion trends are not only connected to political movements but to technological shifts (internet) - and how all of this is changing society or rather not.
Fascinating video! The end about was so powerful, Jade. As a white cis androgynous-leaning woman, I have some thinking to do on how to do better at dismantling this crap. Thank you.
As a straight women I really appreciated this content! I'll admit this aspect of fashion isn't something I know a lot about, but I really enjoyed the video! Thank you for these thoughts! It's very interesting & inspiring.
I have definitely seen straight people getting a lot of Credit for doing things queer people have been vilified for doing. Crazy how that is!
Nothing beats creating your own style and not follow fads or trends. It helps you become creative in your own right. Why would you want to look like someone else because it’s a waste of the person you are, besides everyone else is taken. Looks are superficial but it’s whats inside that counts. Blind or vision impaired come to mind on that score. Wear what you like not what everyone is wearing. Be exactly who you are not a clone of someone else.
“Roll whatever you need to roll” I subscribed
i really liked this video. your breakdown of how race and gender is really enlightening. as a white straight-sized nonbinary person, i have noticed that a lot of the body ideals that are most common are skinny white twinks. i am trying to stay aware of this while trying to figure out why i look towards these images when i think and process my thoughts on my own body.
This was SUCH a good video. Thank you, Jade.
Love and appreciated this video! Please keep making more, I love the history and education! Thanks Professor Jade!
i love when u do these think piece / video essay type videos!!!!!!
enlightening as always- trust Jade to come correct with the info x
LOVE this upload and chapter 5 part 2 was fantastic
great video and learned so much, thank you!!
i mean this in the most platonic way. but girl you fine as shit, respectfully though cause i love jaiden
I quite liked listening to this and the shortness was nice.
great content as always
Such important conversation to be had! Thank you for shining a light on the black erasure of androgyny Jade
thank you for an excellent introduction into my next rabbit hole
I love your content
When I was growing up Japanese street fashion was that for me. Of course Pharrell got a lot of credit for bringing the north American audience exposed to it but there were so many designers doing unisex clothing. Even the evolution of visual Kei clothing. You also had their j rockers like Mana do a lot of androgynous styles or going from femme to masc. And you have "ouiji" whrre women and femme presenting people wore men's wear. It was their evolution of Japanese ancient history of men wearing femme clothing in kabuki theater. Now coming back to recent time, the gender neutral street wear is really back at an all time high.
A tarantula is so random lmaoooo! Make a truly andro clothing line Jade 🙏🏾🙃
Metrosexual meant explicitly NOT gay. Metro was meant to replace homo to distinguish between the two. 40 something here...growing up in the 90s, androgyny was very much embraced in my liberal college town and it didn't indicate sexual preference necessarily. Girls tended to have short hair or were even bald and boys tended to have long hair and not usually facial hair. Some of my straight guy friends liked to dress in dresses - not sure that was a big thing in the 90s but within the underground punk scene it was a thing.
You did your big ones with this one, why am I so late😭
Este vídeo es increíble, quiero tomar nota jaja
looove this convo and history - what was the other video you did that you said could link to?
I find it interesting to see commentary from the younger generations.
It’s important to understand context, to pay attention to who spouts certain ideologies and their agenda. How it’s supported and by whom. And most importantly, to follow the MONEY motivating it.
Two important points need to be addressed. 1. The term cisgender is a word created by a MALE RAPIST. Many people consider it a slur and misogynistic. “Redefining” by force is not progress. Many will probably disagree on this, but it’s very important to question these things. Sometimes solutions create more problems. 2. Misuse of the word queer. Slapping a queer label ( that is also narrowly defined in its use for the past 3 years or so in particular ) on people from different eras is a mistake. First, they didn’t refer themselves as such. In addition, if they did the meaning was something different from the way it’s being used today. Again, we really have to be careful about making big assumptions.
And so not impressed by Harry Styles, but it seems a lot of heterosexual women find him safe and fun.
I love the history here
Hi Jade! Care to discuss Bloke core? It seems like a very androgynous or chill kind of style. Dig the channel! - Chicago Tomboy
Yasss this is dope
Yettthhhhhh🤗
Yes!! Freddie Mercury, David Bowie and Prince are all great icons!
Not into fashion... But very insightful video!
I think people stopped going on about “metrosexuals” because when the word was being used people were really spooked about people being secretly gay. There are a lot less people in the closet these days. I think obvi homophobia is still a thing but people aren’t necessarily paranoid that “the gays are hiding among us”.
still keeping it real after all these years.
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Why is dennis rodman not here?
Tuff video 🥷🏿
can someone tell me their pronouns?? 🙏🏼
She/her
Maybe I misunderstood the beginning of this video but... the androgynous look was not started by trans and queer people... Lmao. Please...
evidence?
Harry Style in a dress isnt androgynous...
About the ‘gay ear’, they used to say “left is right, right is wrong “.
love the fit it's giving mars blackmon 🤌 we love to see it
also if you fr write a fashion book we will read it