Green synthesis of nano silver
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2018
- This video describes a two-step approach to the production of colloidal nano silver, using the LVDC method to create ionic silver and subsequent reduction using two different green synthesis protocols.
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Hello friend - alkhemical brother Markus, my name is Timur, I'm from Moldavia (Republic of Moldova) - the Eastern Europe. I found your video and I saw your work and realized that this is great information for me for the future, and that's why I want to thank you friend.
great info Mark. Been making and using for a couple years. Learned from zero labs video and the forum. Just stumbled on you in the comments on other cs videos. Some of the things people were advising were nuts. Liked and subbed and with the info here I'm ready to take it to the next level.
In the video I state that it would be the aloin that is the active component of Aloé vera extract. In the meantime I have learned that the aloin is in fact, a carcinogenic laxative, present mainly in the green skin of the leaves. The inner side gel has a high content of polysaccharides and a good level of protein, Therefore, always make sure that you peel the skin and wash the gel before use, to minimize the amount of aloin.
love to get that paper you were using to follow on my next attempt to better my batches as you do in this video...thanks for sharing
The easiest and best way to produce high quality uncapped CS is described in this video: ua-cam.com/video/lyQRIqB0d8k/v-deo.html. The best sources I have used are www.cgcsforum.org/ and teh facebook group facebook.com/groups/1663538010602428. All documents can be found there.
Your final product looks really good.
From what I have found out about storage is that glass is superior vs other containers like plastic etc.
The 5-year-old cs that I made that still appears the same as the day I made it was brought up in temperature to just under boiling then poured into pint jars and sealed with new lids, much like you would preserve vegetables or other items for consumption.
I have even done a high heat procedure while making the cs which makes metallic silver and it auto changes color from the heat.
The reason I went back to the forum was to find information on colloidal copper as I remember it was said to be toxic But I see other herbalists talking about the benefits of colloidal copper internally so I was just trying to figure out that situation.
I am keeping samples of several experiments in clear glass test tubes to test any signs of deterioration over time. I agree that glass is always a safe option, and keeping silver out of the light is always a good idea. On copper, I know that ayurvedic medicine uses copper, but I am not up to speed on that. There are many videos about GANS where people produce copper oxide colloids, but I am not sure if that has any scientific basis. en.kfwiki.org/wiki/CuO_GANS
Tks for the information I will check it out, yea I am up in the air on the copper, not sure if I will try it internally until I am confident from reading about it more.
Also If you ever decide on making your own rods I wouldn't advise it because just to buy the equipment ie wire roller, propane torch, draw plates and other items its expensive and very time consuming and you have to follow the process to a tee as to not screw up.
For a double anode, I use 2 alligator clips wired to a contact where I hook up the power.
Thanks for the video, very informative. May I ask what parts of the leaves you use for the powder? There seems to be aloe vera powder available commercially, but I have no idea what parts of the leaf are in it.
Thanks, you are right, I had left out the part of preparation of the aloé vera powder. I follow this procedure to dry the gel: I cut off a big leaf and wash the cut and the skin thoroughly under the tap (the yellowish liquid from the cut should not be mixed with the gel!). Then I strip off the green skin on all sides, always making cuts in the direction of the length of the leaf with a sharp knife. The white gel from inside the leaf I beat in a food processor to form a unified liquid gel. I put this gel in a large stainless steel or glass bowl so it forms a small film at the bottom. I dry it in 1,5 day in the sun, covered with a mosquito net, but if you have an oven that can be set at 40°C, you can leave it there for 24 hours or so. When it is completely dry I scrape the dried gel off the bottom and store it in this raw form. When I use it I dilute it in bi-distilled water and filter it to take out any impurities before use. I have read about another procedure where you cook the entire leaf with skin and create a watery extract. I have never done that, because I was interested in the dry powder because of almost infinite storage.
so if i make the first method i should keep away from sunlight ,does sunlight destroy the silver by oxidizing it and thus making it useless?
ARCSTREAMS yes, exactly
How are you limiting down to 1milliamp from 30volt And how are the volts dropping if you have it set at 30v how you hooking up your multimeter in a closed loop?. I thank you so much for sharing this great informational video to help others, this is by far the best and most accurate video on Colloidal silver on the internet may God bless you for all your great work's!!!...👍
Hi Corey, Thanks for your blessings. As you can see in the video I use an adjustable DC power source, which means I can either limit the Voltage or the Current. In this case I set the Voltage to the maximum of 32V and limit the current to 1mA (or 5mA, depending on the process). The correct way to measure the current is o put the multimeter in series:
Power Source Positive+(RED)>------->Meter Positive(+)
Meter Negative(-)>------>Silver Anode
Power Source Negative (Black)>-----> Cathode.
(Source: CGCS Forum, W.G. Peters)
So in your opinion what would the ionic silver best be served for? Nasal spray and nebulizing? Where capped nano silver is for ingestion or wound care or topical sprays?
Trent Dorsey Yes, I would agree that ionic silver can be used for topical use and nebulizing, but nano CS can do the same thing. I never use ionic silver, in all cases use uncapped nano silver.
After reading through your many thorough comments and replies I have learned a lot. You know your stuff! Thanks for the presentation. I have made a basic 20ppm solution via the very simple 3x9v battery method to make some low grade ionic silver. I understand the diff now between ionic and nano silver. Now for my question, The low quality ionic silver I produced can by used topically but say I were to swish or gargle with it for 30 seconds or a minute for dental health could that be beneficial since it doesn't really need to travel through the stomach and lose its strength. It will be in direct contact with the teeth and gums?? Thoughts?
StraitClownin909 Yes, ionic silver will be effective if you swish it in your mouth. The main difference with using uncapped nano silver in this case is that nano silver would have a more durable effect. In other words, you would need to use ionic silver several times during the day.
Is magnetic stirring necessary when adding the aloe? If I put the ionic silver on a stovetop with occasional hand stirring, would I still produce colloidal? Is magnetic stirring necessary in step one? What would happen without it? Great video!
Heating on a stovetop and hand stirring is perfectly OK. Just make sure you stay within the temperature range. Stirring is necessary in the first phase to break up high conductivity canals between the electrodes and keep the ions away from the cathode and in suspension. In short, it will enhance quality and higher pure ionic content.
Could I use a hot plate and an aquarium pump and achieve similar results? Don't have a magnetic heat stirrer.
I am not a fan of air bubbler as it is hard to achieve vigorous stirring, and you may be introducing contaminants from the air, but in principle it will work, yes.
Magnetic stirrers on the other hand, provide a symmetric vortex, as well as nano vortices.
Hi Marc, thank you for your time making this video. Could you please let me know the parameters of your power supply and where you bought it?
Hi Piotr, great to hear the vodeo is of some use. As I live in Brazil, I bought the adjustable source here, but of course its an Asian import: Hikari HF3203S with 32 V DC output at 0-3A in 1mA steps. It also has current limitation, which is essential and short circuit protection, which is also a good idea. It costs around R$ 450,00 here, which should translate to around US $ 70,00 when bought outside Brazil.
@@marctinkelenberg Your video is of great use! Thank you.
Great video, lots of information. just query only for a normal human that cannot provide the equipment from labtest, are safe to take Ionic silver internally or rather we used nano silver. thanks a lot from Asia
Many people take ionic silver internally, but research shows that nano silver taken internally is safer and more effective.
What's the best commercial silver colloidal product available in your view?
I have no personal experience with commercially available products. As far as I know, very few manufacturers actually sell nano silver colloids, and to my knowledge no gelatin capped CS is available commercially. A brand of honey reduced and capped CS I have endorsed is Three Sisters brand, an artesanal product.
Marc , I'm new to capping silver. You mentioned using aloe that you produced. I have a huge aloe plant and would like to make my own capping agent and possibly using aloe gel infused with colloidal silver as a topical ointment. Did you produce this from scratch or is there a product you used and would recommend? I reviewed capping agents on the forum but didn't really understand them fully at that time. Just getting up to speed now.
timothy longmore I strip the skin off the leaves and beat the gel in a food processor, then sun dry it in glass ovenware. When it’s dry, I grind it to a fine powder, so I can store it for years. In the video you can see I dilute and filter it before use. It is important to use the unprocessed gel in order to get all the sugars and proteins.
@@marctinkelenberg awesome. I like that approach. I'm going to order some new equipment and learn to "cap" my silver. In a different post I red a commenter mentioned reducing with chaga tincture. You replied as you seem to with all questions , but you didn't speak to the chaga question. I'm into chaga. Foraging , tinctures etc. I would be interested in your opinion and thoughts. I'd send you some chaga if want to experiment.
@@timothylongmore7325 I have not looked into chaga, so far. As a first step, as with all natural ingredients, it is important to know what is inside, and what is the content of reducing agents (polysaccharides) and capping agents (e.g. proteins) as well as possible contaminations (metals, salts).
@@marctinkelenberg Makes total sense. Being a tincture also there are those ingredients to consider also. Alcohol etc.
@J It depends a lot of where you live, but you should count on anything between US$ 400-500 for a Korad, magnetic stirrer with hot plate, multimeter, borosilicate beaker. If you want to start learning how to reduce and cap ionic silver you can start with simply heating up the ionic silver you produced, on a stove or microwave, adding diluted glucose syrup and stirring with a glass or plastic rod until it turns a nice yellow color.
If I use a Ultrasonic Respiratory Nebulizer, is it still needed to cap the CS as the uptake into the blood stream is near direct.
Excellent question and not an easy answer. There are two reasons why people nebulize CS or ISO: to treat a bacteria, fungus or virus inside the lungs, or as a fast route to get silver into the blood stream. In the first case, ionic or uncapped nano silver are the most effective. In the second case, I suspect that only silver ions (from ISO or CS) will pass the lungs into the blood stream. In all cases it is not adviseable to nebulize capped nano silver. For the first scenario, because the capping will slow down the silver ion release, for the second scenario because the capped nano particles are probably too large to pass the lung membrane anyway. In all scenarios it is unadviseable to use capped nano silver, in order to avoid additional elements to be entering the lungs, especially proteins like gelatin, as they will build up in the lungs and may become sources of infection themselves, or may affect the functioning of the cilia. I am sceptical about how many silver ions will make it to the blood stream via the lungs, as it will have to pass the pleural membrane, and I am not sure about the reactions it might suffer.
@@marctinkelenberg Thank you very much for the detailed answer. People like you are hard to find now days.
@@andrieskaden378 Thanks, you are most welcome.
Can I use AgNO3 instead of Ag ions in this experiment? please reply
sisira mk The process for chemical reduction of silver nitrate is a bit different, I have no experience with that.
Ola parabens pelo video. Sou um entusiasta da prata/cobre coloidal. Gostaria de saber a finalidade dessa água produzida e sobre os videos que estão popularizando na internet. O processo com uma fonte 12v ligada a eletrodos de prata ou cobre imersos em agua tb é eficiente? Grato
Marcelo, a prata coloidal é um antibiotico para uso tópico e interno. Fiz um site em português para explicar mais sobre o produto www.lua-verde.com. Os processos muito simples, com pilhas ou fontes de baixa voltagem, geralmente geram um produto de baixa qualidade, vale a pena de investir num equipamento com controle de corrente e agitação/aquecimento.
Hey Marc, congrats for the great work! I'm preparing to cook using your methods, but the second part is not clear at me, so I'm still researching about it. Anyway, what do you think about Pectin as reducing and capping agend, or could you seggest any alternatives on Aloe. And what is the point of the 3 subtances in protocol 1 versus only 1(Aloe) in protocol 2?
Hi Martin, in fact I am using several different protocols for reducing and capping. Some products are reducing AND capping agents, others are not. The reason to use glucose is that it is a more versatile reducing (but not capping) agent, working at low and high temperatures. Citrate as a reducing agent works faster but at higher temperatures. By mixing the two, both will have part in the reduction process, and the citrate will take care of the capping. Aloé vera, on the other hand is a reducing AND capping agent, so we don't need the glucose and citrate. The soluble starch I have been leaving out, and it does not seem to make any difference for stability. The theory is that with fast and controlled reduction and capping, the agglomeration will be kept low, and particle size will be smaller and more even. I believe pectin is a good candidate for reduction and capping, but I have no personal experience with it. Gelatin (animal source) is an excellent capping agent, as the gelatin proteins will be processed by enzymes only in the small intestine.
It has also been proven that an excess of glucose will provide higher stability of the colloid, because it will reduce any silver oxides that may form over time.
I know the pectin is a prebiotic and passes easily through the stomach to the large intestine.
I found this intriguing document about pectin
hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-01131939/document
I've reach similar color to your, that's how:
Heat up the IS then add herbs tincture for about 5 minutes and then a diluted pectin. Next time I will try only pectin. As vegan, the gelatin is not option for me.
@@raulsfan Thanks for the document. Orange pectin seems to be an excellent alternative for gelatine, I will plan some experiments with that. Maybe in combination with sodium citrate as a (faster) reducer... as you can see in the document, citrate generates perfect spherical nano particles, and that's what we want.
@@raulsfan From what I understood, the pectin that should be used is MCP to increase bio-availability. I have purchased some food-grade orange pectin, that I believe to be MCP, and have run a test batch with that, using trisodium citrate as reducing agent, running for about 80 minutes at 17 mA. I noted some turbidity within the last 10 minutes, but overall the result looks fine after dilution to 20-25 ppm it has a nice strong yellow color. I will accompany the stability over time.
Thank you Sir, How to make the powder form of aloe vera? Do you know how to dry the silver nanoparticles too?? Please help in this..
I have made a video about how to make the Aloé vera powder on this same channel. I have never tried to dry the nano particles: They can be best kept in suspension, why would you want to dry them?
@@marctinkelenberg thank you for the reply. I will see that video on making aloe powder. I am dng research in chemistry. I want to use this nanoparticle as a catalyst for an organic reaction. If it's dry, it will be easy for me to characterize also. That's why asked. Thanks anyway 👍
Excellent.... Tq u
Thank you, most welcome.
Does it have any application???
Does it have catalytic application ie. Can we use it in reaction as catalyst???
If yes than please give me the reaction and procedure.
I am not sure what your question is about, you want to know the medical applications of nano silver? In what sense do you mean it could be a catalyst, in what kind of process? The process of making nano silver is a goal in itself, and I believe that the video is self-explanatory in that sense. If you have a specific question about protocols and quantities of reagents, please let me know.
Marc, I have the spooky2 Generator X and have been trying to make colloidal silver with it by following their instructions. I'm not getting a laser line to show up in the distilled water even after running the colloidal silver program twice in a row for a total of 25 hours. So I took some measurements with a voltmeter and recorded it and uploaded it to youtube to show what they are. Something looks very wrong to me I'm only getting around 4.5 volts DC and over.3mA DC. I'll post a link to my video at the end of my questions. Spooky claimes that their generator will make true colloidal silver but I'm getting conflicting information online. I'm now under the impression that no generators make true colloidal silver that they are making ionic silver and it has to be converted to colloidal silver. Is that correct? I'm wanting to ingest this silver so I'm under the impression that I shouldn't ingest ionic silver so I want to know what is the spooky system making? Also, I am wondering why I'm getting the readings I'm getting with the voltmeter or if something is wrong with my genx? ua-cam.com/video/YiPQ0I6jL8Q/v-deo.html
Steve, I have had a few conversations with Spooky, and unfortunately he is not very knowledgable about the process (but eager to learn). You are right that, in principle, all CS generators generate an ionic silver solution, that can be converted in nano silver (CS) by reducing it in a separate step. Although you can "cold reduce" in principle, most procedures need some heat. One source of heat and energy is sunlight, so if you generate ionic silver in sunlight conditions, some of it will also reduce to nano silver, but in a slow and uncontrolled way. In order to generate ionic silver, you should use DC voltage in the range of 8 to 30 V and you can easily use 1 - 5 mA current. The information that you should only work in 0,1 mA range is fake news.
The easiest way to produce high quality nano silver is described in my 60 ppm uncapped CS video. The only CS I ingest is gelatin capped, which is decribed in one of the other videos. In my opinion, ingestion of ionic silver or even uncapped nano silver is much less effective, as the silver ions will readily react to create silver salts, and uncapped nano silver will agglomerate into ineffective micro silver particles.
@@marctinkelenberg I found a custom preset from the spokky2ICUforum "OMNI Full Colloid (Ag) - AR" and installed it and ran a batch and it was successful. Using distilled water, silver rods, and a magnetic stirrer only It completed the batch in 4 hrs and has a nice laser line showing in the juice and is clear. Since I don't have a hot plate I bottled it in an amber glass bottle and refrigerated it until I can reduce and cap it. You mentioned "cold reduce" should I consider trying that since I don't have a hot plate? How do you do it? I'm concerned if I just sit a mason jar of ionic silver on my stove burner it will crack or bust from the heat. What would be the easiest way to finish this stuff since I do not have a digital scale, hot plate, or a beaker that can withstand high temps? Last question where is the best place to purchase the ingredients to convert this to colloidal silver? I'm working toward getting a hot plate with a magnetic stirrer, scale, and a set of beakers as soon as possible.
Steve Casper That is good news: BTW, you only want to see a faint laser line, because most of the content should be ionic. I would suggest that you add 20 drops of glucose syrup 1:1 diluted with distilled water and heat it up to luke warm temp, 30-35 Celsius, with constant stirring for about 30-40 minutes. You can hand stir with a glass rod, preferably. If it turns into a bright yellow color, you know you have a 20-25 ppm nano silver colloid.
Boa tarde Marc. Existe alguma maneira de comprar sua prata coloidal? Obrigado.
Fernando, boa tarde. Não costumo vender fora da minha cidade, até pelo custo alto do envio, mas me envie um Whatsapp para 14-981638880 para ver o que precisa e se tem alguma possibilidade, ok?
Total beginner here but I thought I read somewhere to only use silver on one part in the solution and copper on the other?
You are correct in saying that only the anode has to be silver, the cathode could be any metal. However, most people use a silver cathode out of fear any other metal could leach into the silver solution, or to enable polarity switching to keep the electrodes cleaner.
Hi Marc, I wanted to know how long can your magnetic stirrer run? does it support continous operation? Can u make 320 ppm with it?
Hi, I don’t understand the question. The magnetic stirrer can run limitless. I normally don’t go higher than 120 ppm because it takes a shorter time, around two hours, but there is no reason why you couldnt get to 320 ppm, in about 6 hours. This will only work for a strong capping agent like gelatin. For uncapped CS I would not go higher than 60 ppm, as you will tend to get more agglomeration and less uniform particle size.
@@marctinkelenberg Your magnetic stirrer must be expensive if it can run limitless. Generally cheap stirrers don't run long..
@@paramj4287 I guess so, it is professional lab equipment. Everything is very expensive here in Brazil, in the US it would cost R$ 250
@@marctinkelenberg Hi Marc, would you tell me what is the size of hole you drilled into your silver bars? What type of drill did you use? if you could name it. Thanks
@@paramj4287 I made a 2mm hole with a speed metal drill (HSS) of an A brand, don't remember the brand.
Can citric acid be used instead of sodium citrate? And can tapioca starch be used as the soluble starch? Thanks for the video, great content.
Thanks. Both citric acid and tapoica starch should work, though I have no personal experience with those, and I have no idea about quantities. The sodium in the sodium carbonate plays a specific role, making it a more efficient reducer than citric acid. So it's a matter of finding an existing protocol or experimenting with quanties (and temperature)!
@@marctinkelenberg Thanks for replying. Do you know in what type of stores I can find the sodium citrate? I would use it if I'm able to get it.
Ra Ac I am not sure where you are... In Brazil I use to buy online in Lab stores.
@@marctinkelenberg When I tried the first method, as soon as I added the glucose, the water turned yellow. Is that normal? I still let it sit on the hot plate for about 15 min though.
Ra Ac Yes, the initial reaction at higher temperatures can be quite fast, but you are right to keep it at least 15-20 minutes reacting to be sure you achieve full reduction.
how come you can store the second method in clear glass?
ARCSTREAMS it is always better to store colloidal silver in dark glass, to avoid any oxidation, but after reducing and capping the nano silver colloid is extremely stable, and will not react much to light or heat. As a result of the process as shown, practically all ionic silver will be reduced, so no silver ions are left, that are extremely reactive under light. On the www.cgcsforum.org there is a lot of excellent information about the chemical processes and formulas, much better than I could explain here.
aha ok thank you i understand,that is what i figured but was not sure and had to hear it from you,,,so how come we get this yellow colour?
@@ARCSTREAMS The yellow color is caused by the plasmon effect: the charged nano particles will deflect the light in a certain way: spherical silver nano particles (up to 50nm size?) will will absorb most of the (ultra)violet light, so we perceive it as yellow. In larger concentration the so called absorption rate will increase and the color will go to amber (like tea) and dark coffee color. So the color is a very good indication of the quality (particle size) and concentration (ppm) of the end product. Over time, you will get a good feeling for what color your nano silver colloid needs to be. Note: capping agents will have an effect on the color: gelatin will darken the colloid, aloé vera will produce a greenish yellow.
thank you
Does your copper wire leech into the water via condensation on the anode when using hot temps?
eaflores It is perfectly safe to use a copper cathode, as it will be plated with silver during the process, it does not release anything in the water. But of course you can use a silver wire if in doubt :)
@@marctinkelenberg I mean the anode. Is it safe to use a copper wire to hang the silver bullion bar on the anode given a distance or not at all? What distance would that be if so?
eaflores OK, sorry I read too fast! As long as the copper wire does not touch the water, I don’t believe there to be any risk. I keep it about 1 -2 cm above the water level.
@@marctinkelenberg Thank you for all your replies! Do you use copper wire to hang your anode bullion bar or silver or some other metal? Thank you again.
eaflores You are welcome! Yes, I use copper wire to hang the silver bullion bar.
Hi Mark, I have a bone infection, can you recommend to me wich type of silver to digest Coloidal? Ionic? Nano? and where I can affordably purchase it that makes it to your standards, thanks in advance, God bless.
Isidro junior Hi Isidro, I am unable to give any specific advice, unless I would be aware of any specific research that would apply to your case, or personal experience... It is always best if you can treat an area with silver directly (topically). If you are looking to treat a generalized, bacterial infection, you have no other option than to ingest it, and try to treat the infection via the blood stream. In that case the silver needs to be metabolized through the GIT. I believe that gelatin capped nano silver is the best candidate for such treatment, but I am not aware of any commercial provider. In what country are you based? You might try a good quality uncapped nano silver (Meso silver, Therasilver) or honey capped nano silver (three sisters). I am not a big believer of ingesting ionic silver, but very little conclusive research is available. Good luck, and if you have any doubts or need more tips, drop me a message.
@@marctinkelenberg are you familiar with Silver Sol from- www.silversolutionusa.com
@@marctinkelenberg what are your thoughts on "Silver Sol"
@@DJIzzyDC Silver Sol is just a marketing term, generally referring to ionic silver in solution.
@@marctinkelenberg Hello, Marc regarding silver sol they talk about Ag404 molecule is that all gimmick? Is the product nothing more than ionic silver Ag+ ions?
Have you any written literature available that I may reference?
Sarah, the two best sources for CS production are the CGCS Forum and the Facebook group Colloidal Gold and Colloidal Silver, both coordinated by biochemists.
Thank you 🙏 will do
Marc, would you please advice me if this is the right type of Bench Power Supply I need?
If not, could you please recommend something for my Kitchen lab?
Thanks so very much!
High precision regulated power supply: The Lab Power Supply can act as a voltage regulation or a current regulation power supply. The voltage regulation range is from 0V to 30V and the current range is from 0A to 5A. Output is set by rotary switches with the value displayed on a LCD display. It has low ripple and noise, high reliability and high accuracy. Test leads are included to connect to the power supply (banana plugs) and the load (crocodile clamps). Suitable for commercial, education and home uses Designed to be safe, accurate and easy to use, the Lab Power Supply is a great choice for test teams, repair workshops, laboratories and research facilities. A rugged, reinforced metal frame, compact design and automatic safety overrides make it ideal for test benches, schools and home projects. The cooling fan, overload and short circuit protection all trigger automatically. An ergonomic carrying handle makes this power supply easily portable. DATA: Input: 110 AC 60Hz. Operating conditions -Temperature: 0°C to 40°C -Relative humidity: < 80% Voltage regulation working condition: -Power stability: < 0.01%+3mV -Load stability: < 0.01%+3mV (Max. current < 3A) -Recovery time: < 100microseconds (load-variant 50%, min. load current 0.5A) -Ripple & noise: < 0.5mVrms (5Hz-1MHz) (Max. current < 3A); -< 1.0mVrms (5Hz-1MHz) (Max. current > 3A) -Temperature coefficient: < 300PPM/°C Current regulation working condition: -Power stability: < 0.2%+3mA -Load stability: < 0.2%+3mA -Ripple & noise: < 3mArms
Yes that would be a feasible model (30V/5A), just check to make sure the current can be adjusted in 1mA intervals. Most people in the US seem to use the Korad brand.
@@marctinkelenberg Thank Marc. Finding one that has mA has been a challenge.
Right now I have my silver Stamps at the jewelers for grinding and polishing. My 24v power supply was eating the serrated
edges and I couldn't even get clear liquid for the ionic silver any more. Obviously everything was cooking way to high but now I have a clear view on how to fix this.
Hey, I even have organic gelatin in the cupboard!
@@momzilla9491 Great, you are getting there! What would "organic" gelatin be? From organic cattle? Make sure it is animal protein based in any case.
@@marctinkelenberg Hi, I'm reading the package. Ingredients are "Organic Porcine Gelatin"
Now what that is I have no idea. Company GoBIO Organic Gelatin Powder -Gluten Free - Non GMO.
Side panel: Complete line of GoBio products .gobiofoods.com
The pack cost me $14.00 Canadian last summer.
@@momzilla9491 Yeah that should be OK, I prefer bovine, but porc should work as well (though you should put it on the label for your jewish customers), lol.
Cool video, I have never heard of using aloé vera powder as a capping agent, a few years ago on a forum they were doing simulated gastric acid tests on CS using Gelatine, agar, and a few others Gelatine seemed to be the clear winner as the other solutions changed the color.
I have had good results using Chaga Tincture as a reducing agent, much like they use cinnamon to get higher ppm Chaga Tincture will do the same if not better in my opinion.
But yea i would question the aloé vera powder as a capping agent because I have never seen or read test on it against stomach acids.
AgNP@AV is a fairly new area of study, and I have not seen any study yet in vivo or simulating stomach acids, so you may be absolutely right! But there are so many other uses for AgNP@AV, for instance as a fungicide in horticulture, or even topical use on humans and pets... The AgNP@AV I produced seems extremely stable, and I like teh fact that Aloe Vera in itself is a strong bactericide and fungicide. I am not aware of Chaga tincture, so thanks, I will have a look into that!
As Aloe vera is well known for its gastro-protective and ulcer-healing properties I don't see why it would not be a good candidate as a green capping agent (but that may just be wishful thinking).
The best way to find out would be to stimulate gastric acid in an experiment and see how the silver would hold up in the solution.
@@diggindiggenit6540 I wish I had the instruments to check that, like UV-VIS or TEM microscope :( I am not sure how I would test it otherwise...
@Marc yea for sure some of the things you would need to simulate the stomach acids along with keeping the temp at stomach acid temp would be expensive
so this produces both ionic and larger particles that cant be avoided? also wont the resistance decrease once silver start building up in the solution thus increasing the amps so you should monitor and re adjust the current limiting?
ARCSTREAMS that is correct, it is almost impossible to generate 100% ionic silver, as some of it will reduce by itself. Ionic silver has a limit of about 30 ppm, after that, no more free ions will be suspended in the water. With more ions in the water the conductivity will increase, yes, that is why I use current limitation, this will automatically adjust the voltage if current gets too high.
i understand that ionic silver is only good for tropical use and useless internally,,colloidal or larger particle spheres are more ideal and used both external and internal,,is this correct? and what is suggested volt/amp? say i use 9v batt ,is it ok if amps are 50mAh to 100? or should it be much less and i need resistor?
are you saying after 30ppm the ions will start sticking together and forming heavier larger particles?
ARCSTREAMS ionic silver is very reactive, and when ingested or introduced directly into the bloodstream, it will form silver chlorides that do not dissolve in water and that will not release silver ions. Ionic silver is good for topical use because it will be in direct contact with the bacteria or fungus, but the duration of the activity is extremely limited. Nano silver will keep releasing silver ions over a longer period of time, that is why silver bandaid are covered with nano silver, not ionic silver.
Capped nano silver (citrate, gelatin, aloin, etc) has been proven to survive longer in stomach acid and in the blood stream, somit is more effective to combat bacteria and funghi in the intestine or in the blood stream.
About the voltage: it is very difficult to work with batteries, because they will not provide any voltage or current control. As the conductivity changes during the process, you will have to change the distance between the electrodes and/or the immersion depth, to keep the current low. In that case you will have to measure the voltage and current over the electrodes regularly to adjust it. That's why I think some type of automatic current control is easier. You can buy current control circuits on ebay very cheaply, there are some videos circulating that explain their use.
ARCSTREAMS after 30 ppm the silver ions will start to react with the gases that are produced during electrolysis, like hydroxide and oxygen, to form silver hydroxide and silveroxide that will precipitate to the bottom.
Hi Marc, thank you for your research, very informative and interesting. I'm going to experiment with a freeze dried aloe vera extract that has the rind, anthraquinones, and aloin removed. Since there is such little extract added to reduce the ionic silver to nano silver, do you think the extract reduces the shelf life of the final product much? I'm a mechanical engineer and not chemist, but I appreciate your time to explain all you have here so far in these comments!
Thanks, I am glad the video was of some use. I am not sure what an Aloé vera extract does with the Aloin taken out, because that is the active ingredient? I guess there will still be enough sugars left, though but I always used the entire inner leaf. I dilute the extract (sun dried powder) in some distilled water and heat it up until it is more or less homogeneous and then filter it. My experience is that the AgNP@AV has excellent shelf life. I always store some in a test tube in clear daylight and after 6-8 months there is almost no precipitation or color change.
@@marctinkelenberg I did read that about the aloin, but wasn't sure. I'd really like to find an organic aloe vera extract available in dry form I could buy (like a few I saw on Amazon) to save time and not have to prepare myself. Are there any like that you know of, or do you recommend I always prepare the extract myself? I did read the PeerJ article in your replies below how they made a boiled extract from the entire leaf. Thank you much for your reply.
@@marctinkelenberg well, my son just showed up with some big organic aloe vera leaves from Natural Grocers.. so looks like i'm making some extract tomorrow! lol
Paul Ray Effinger Great. i never tried boiling the entire leaf, but I have read several reports about doing exactly that. You may have to experiment a little with the amount. I have been using 80 mg of powder extract per litre in my last batch, but that may be overkill, in any case better too much than too little.
@@marctinkelenberg thank you! I'll let you know how it turns out.
beautiful and thanks a lot!
I am totally new to this silver colloidal world and I am interested in knowing more in deep. some says silver ionic and other silver colloidal and my concern what is the safe product to use internally like drinking and what are the possible dosage and side effects if any(on both product it will be appreciated)
rukeka kambari from what I have studied I have come to the following conclusions. The silver ions are what really kills the bacteria and fungi and some virus. But ionic silver is highly reactive, which is good if you apply it to a wound or a rash on he skin, but not so good if you ingest it, because the silver ions will be turned into insoluble silver chlorides before they can have any effect. Metallic nano silver, on the other hand, is much less reactive, and in contact with fluids, it will release silver ions. So, metallic nano silver, and especially capped nano silver, will be able to travel through the blood stream and through the stomach, to release silver ions where the bacteria, fungi and virus are.
Nano silver is safe to ingest in small doses, but you should remember that by killing intestinal bacteria, it will create some inbalance that you can correct by drinking probiotics, like kefir. Also, some of the silver will build up in your tissue over time, so if you use a lot of silver over many years, your eyes and nails and skin might turn grey. You should use silver only in small doses to solve problems, not as a daily dietary supplement. When ingesting, as an antibiotic, one teaspoon of 10-15 ppm nano silver, twice a day for 4 days should be enough.
I am pleased that you liked the video, thanks!
Hello Marc Tinkelenberg ,
Can you please tell me the molar concentration of your silver nitrate AgNO3 ?
If you watch the video well, you will note that I am not using silver nitrate. The title is a bit a give away: "green synthesis".
This article explains why citrate capped nano silver is more effective against E.coli. For the studious type... www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5402892/
I would leave a link but a lot of times the links do not show up.
But if you go the colloidal silver production forum page 19 date july 3 2015 by PeterXXL that is where he did the test on different things for capping agents.
My name was Fishing4fun2 on that forum but now that I have not been back there in over a year+ I can no longer log in and the system doesn't recognize my user name so I think Kephra has cleaned up that forum may be to save site space? which is a shame because a lot of Other posts can no longer be viewed that are now not visible. Kephra and Peter and maybe another couple are I think the same person (Kephra) running a couple different profiles.
I recently created a login on the cgcs forum so I will have a look if it's still there, it seems they moved it all to this new forum? Yes, Kephra/W.G. Peters already commented on my video, and beat me up for not reading all the articles first. Unfortunately I found the forum only after I finished my experiments, so now I know there is still room for improvement! On the other hand, the forum leaders seems stuck on gelatine capping, and I like to experiment with other green synthesis methods (what about the vegans, right?).
I found the article and noted that only glucose-type reducing agents are compared. From my research it seems that trisodium citrate (TSC) is a stronger reducing agent than glucose, resulting in smaller particles. I found a study that looks into this: www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01932691.2016.1185374
Nothing wrong with experimenting, that's what I did with the Chaga Mushroom Tincture, in nature the Chaga mushroom is one if not the highest in antioxidants higher than cinnamon and others.
Way cool I will save this article and read it, I have some trisodium phosphate on hand not sure about the citrate.
One thing I will say is I still have some CS in glass pint jars that I made back in 2013 using Chaga as the reducer and Gelatine as the capping agent and there is no mold and no particles on the bottom and looks the same as the day I made it, and that was stronger batches in the 40ppm so 5 years old and still looks the same, amazing.
I tried to make a new profile by re-signing up as a new member over there but the site has a problem.
If we don't experiment we don't learn so keep up your adventure with your silver production.
I use two large silver rods for the anode and one copper for the cathode.
The silver rods I made myself because I couldn't find rods in the 3-6 ga size they extend into the solution and are up off the bottom like 3/4 of an inch while the copper is just in a half inch.
All the different videos on making CS is so confusing. Can't I just use the simple CS generator i bought (with just the 2 silver rods & the power) & use the guidelines that came with the product to make CS (of whatever ppm as long as it's at least 10 ppm) with distilled water????
Hay ARya-AR-Men-atsi Plug-and-Play generators can only provide a way to generate an ionic silver solution, and the quality depends highly on the quality of the generator. These videos show how you can make more advanced and potent colloids, for different applications.
@@marctinkelenberg So is ionic silver any or all of the following: 1- Bad or risky for our health? 2- A solution that can not be used to treat as many issues as a good quality CS can? 3- If so, what exactly can ionic silver from my 'plug & play' kind of ionic silver be safely used for?
Hay ARya-AR-Men-atsi As ionic silver is very reactive, it has limited uses and poor shelf life. It is great as desinfectant, treatment of wounds and nebulizing into the lungs. Nano silver, on the other hand, can be stored for years, and is a better way to deliver silver ions, because it will release many silver ions over time. Capped nano silver has been shown to be more effective in contact with blood serum, and against cancer and virus. You can easily produce uncapped nano silver in a two step approach, by adding clear corn syrup or maltodextrin to your ionic silver, and apply low heat (35-40 C).
@@marctinkelenberg "and apply low heat (35-40 C)" ??? - How? - On the Stove???
And at which point? - Are you talking about taking the ionic silver (after adding the syrup) & cooking it over the stove at 35-40 C???
Hay ARya-AR-Men-atsi Yes exactly, you can heat it the ionic silver + glucose on a stove or in the microwave. I like to use a magnetic stirrer with hot plate, because you need to stir continuously during the entire process.
explain what is reducing and capping agent doing?
ARCSTREAMS the reducing agent releases free electrons in the water, that reduce the silver ions Ag+ to metallic nano silver particles AgNP. The capping agent binds to the outer shell of the nano particles (agglomerations of several silver atoms) so it creates a protective shell around the particles. This basically stops the agglomeration, so that particles stay small, and therefore stabilizes the silver colloid, it will remain with the same particle size over time.
agglomeration means atoms sticking together to form larger particles? and by coating the atoms with capping agent we stop this from happening?
Could you please share the written details for synthesize? I am trying to grasp it's mechanism. Can I share my email to you if you can share me experimental details?
Rehan, if you watch the other videos, there is more information about the process, that may help. Also, a very good source with all recipes, techniques and theory is the www.cgcsforum.org. If you have specific questions, please mail me at info@ lua-verde.com.
That's so nice of you Marc.
I have a precision power supply capable of controlling down to 1 mA range,
at least in theory, but not in reality, :).
So setting voltage to 30V, current to 1mA was a total joke.
Your display shows 30V and 0A.
How did you manage to control current down to 1mA ???
According to www.cgcsforum.org/,
the current control in mA range is the most CRITICAL parameter
and ABSOLUTELY required to set "cooking" time and you chose 1 mA !
The Hikari adjustable DC Power Source that I use, allows you to fix either Voltage or Current. So if you set the voltage at 30V and limit the current at 1mA, the Power Source will provide 30 V at the start, when conductivity is low, and as soon as current starts flowing and reaches the limit, it will automatically adjust the voltage to stay within the current limit. The display is showing 0,0mA because the over current protection (OCP) is switched on, I am not sure why it shows 0 in this case. Anyway, I measure the actual current over the cell with a multimeter from time to time. If I switch off the OCP it shows the current limit.