Zach isn’t on Orlando’s radar. Even if they did, they’re not splitting the Wagner brothers up. It would be Anthony Black, Wendell (which I doubt CHI wants back) and a few 1st rounders. We’re not sending Isaac or Suggs. Even if Orlando wanted Zach, which they don’t, there isn’t a deal that keeps either team happy.
As a magic fan, this is my favorite locked on podcast. However orlando needs a PG that can shoot. Honestly I don't see us making a big move. Signing Tyus while developing black seems like the play. Fultz seems like the outsider due to how unplayable he was in the playoffs
Ya’ll are smoking some good stuff if you think the Magic want any part of Zach. Ya’ll are stuck with that contract and are fooling yourselves with delusional trades to make yourself feel better about Zach.
I have been paying attention to the Magic. They haven't mentioned Zack Lavine at all. The Magic aren't interested in Zack at all. I think the bulls might be stuck with Zack.
I feel what you mean fam. Keep in mind tho, we weren’t a listed team for Demar when he signed yet we got him. Could be one of those unforeseen “Hush Hush” moves. We literally won’t know until it happens.
Honestly I think we’re making stuff up. Zach had no trade value at the trade deadline and after his injury he has more interest? How much sense does that make? The Bulls will do best by developing him into a new role. A hustle player who can score but does all the little things well. Build his value up and trade him. But Lavine hasn’t shown he would be willing to do that or maybe can’t. Either way Bulls are stuck with Lavine. It was a terrible move not to deal him last season while his value was high. Terrible mismanagement absolutely atrocious!
Sorry to pour cold water on this but Orlando has no interest in Lavigne. He’s good but his contract is one of the worst in the nba and the Magic will have to save enough to pay their homegrown talent in the next 2 seasons. We’ll definitely take Caruso though
@@LockedOnBulls I was speaking on behalf of the fan base as well, there’s no interest for what it’s worth. Thanks for building our roster though, good luck.
@@LockedOnBulls Trust bro. This organization has no interest in high priced Zach Lavine when younger cheaper options like Malik Monk is available. Besides Jeff Weltman doesn't deal big like that.
When talking about young centers in this draft Kel'el Ware from Indiana is a sleeper to me. Stayed an extra year. appears to be way more polished. played behind trayce jackson-davis his freshman year, who played well for the warriors in his rookie season.
Magic fan here I’ve never heard the Magic fan wanted Lavine. I wouldn’t trade a bag of chip for Lavine it like paying $138 millions for a bag of chip why would the Magic do that if they could signed Paul George, Klay Thompson or Malik Monk for much cheaper. If they trade I see them trading for Dejounte Murray or Anfernee Simons it make more sense their salary are half of Lavine and they fit better
Pg13 or klay don’t make sense for Orlando unless they’re just looking to add value to the bench with veteran leadership. So think about that if you’re really a Magic fan
@@YKBOOGIEEE I’m not just a Magic fan I’m a day1 Magic fan. If you know the Magic you know that Banchero and Franz handle the ball run the play most of the time. The coach tried Suggs to bring up the ball run the play but he keep turning the ball over. What the Magic need is a playmaker Guard that can handle the ball run the play shoot 3 and drive to the basket. PG13 checked more boxes and make more sense than Lavine and Klay. Lavine is an unproductive injured prone $46 mil per year player you think it make sense for the Magic to give up #18 pick for him? Klay just don’t make sense at all
@@classicslayer456 exactly. They would be. But and hear me out. Because you may disagree and i respect that. But Green and Sengun don’t really work together do they. Both need to be on ball to be effective
CP3 + Looney + 26 first round pick via GSW for Zach Lavine, Bulls clears one of the worst contract in NBA and get a pick, and for Warriors, they get second option. That's a win-win
Don't worry bulls fans. Highly doubt Orlando is pursuing Zach lavine with any earnest. Orlando doesn't need a third Paolo and Franz. We need a volume 3 point shoorer, preferably a point guard but the shooting is the main thing. We don't want or need lavine tho I like him as a player overall.
If they can get the 18th overall pick and possibly a player for Zach lavine why would you say don't do it you can't be doing that national media talk with us path the designer
We rather look at Zack and be like hey we know you're still young but we got some old vets out there let's give them a contract Patrick Williams I know you're young but let's go out there and get a old head this is a joke
The Bulls need to send Lavine to Golden State for Wiggins and Klay Thompson. Get some players that helps the Bulls become better and playoff ready. Orlando has nobody that will advance the Bulls. New York Knicks need another shooter. Minnesota needed another shooter. Even Denver needed another scorer. Lavine is more valuable then teams are pretending. The playoffs showed the weakness on all these teams. Orlando only has one scorer. Send Lavine and Caruso to Golden State for Klay Thompson and Wiggins. Draft Yves Missi with the 11 pick a defensive beast. There is no rookie leading a team to a championship not even Wenyabama .
Should we be saying the same about Anthony Edwards? They came from the same draft. It’s time stop the “young” excuse and realize he’s nothing but a 3 & D role player off the bench.
The fact that you all are even thinking about trading Zach for Moe Wagner who’s not even better the Drummond, and draft picks that may be the next Dalen Terry is ASININE 😂If Zack is traded, we need a starter I. Return that’s averaging at least 18-20ppg
The fact you don’t understand trade value and the fact every trade isn’t about getting a player that’s outright of equal value is asinine. This isn’t 2k learn real life sports come back
@@LockedOnBulls the last time we where in this position, we traded Jimmy Butler for draft picks and pieces. Did not win more than 30 games in one season over the next 4 years. And if this team is not set to contend, Derozen ain’t coming back. He damn show ain’t coming back for Moe 😂
@@LockedOnBulls “this isn’t 2k” 😂😂you the one who fall in love with draft picks and trading for role players. Make a trade suggestion for somebody like Paul George. I remember you wanted to trade Coby White so Dalen Terry could start. He can’t even scratch the rotation 🤣
If we get Anthony Black, we can put together a lineup with Black, White, Green… collecting players to form the Power Rangers
I'm CRYING!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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And Michael Redd, comes out of retirement
Vander Blue is available, but Coach Mike Brown has unfortunately agreed to an extension with the kings.
Zach isn’t on Orlando’s radar. Even if they did, they’re not splitting the Wagner brothers up. It would be Anthony Black, Wendell (which I doubt CHI wants back) and a few 1st rounders. We’re not sending Isaac or Suggs. Even if Orlando wanted Zach, which they don’t, there isn’t a deal that keeps either team happy.
Orlando has no interest in Lavine and that horrendous contract
None!!
Hating on Wendell when Vuc is ur starting center is crazy lol thanks again for franz
Not realizing Wendell is bad snd trying to have a witty comment is crazy lol.
@@LockedOnBullsdon’t mind him. I agree with you that wendell is kinda bad and needs to be upgraded.
As a Magic fan, I made a
Face when you said that, but didn’t say a word cuz it’s true haha!
@@YourWorstNightmare3333 Wendell and Suggs were the best 3pt shooters on the team. Plus he came back to play when his hand wasn't fully repaired smh.
@@jamelcofield8984 still not the C of the future for this team
Orlando is NOT trading assets for a high priced often injured player when they capspace to get better without wasting money on Zach lavine
As a magic fan, this is my favorite locked on podcast. However orlando needs a PG that can shoot. Honestly I don't see us making a big move. Signing Tyus while developing black seems like the play. Fultz seems like the outsider due to how unplayable he was in the playoffs
Shout out to the channel! Just saw a piece on yahoo with this video embedded. Congrats fellas!
Ya’ll are smoking some good stuff if you think the Magic want any part of Zach. Ya’ll are stuck with that contract and are fooling yourselves with delusional trades to make yourself feel better about Zach.
They're looking for anyone to get them out of that horrible contract. The Magic have no interest in Zach Lavine or his contract.
7:38 😂😂😂 Pat hangs up the phone
I have been paying attention to the Magic. They haven't mentioned Zack Lavine at all. The Magic aren't interested in Zack at all. I think the bulls might be stuck with Zack.
I feel what you mean fam. Keep in mind tho, we weren’t a listed team for Demar when he signed yet we got him. Could be one of those unforeseen “Hush Hush” moves. We literally won’t know until it happens.
Bulls aren't keeping *Zach
Honestly I think we’re making stuff up. Zach had no trade value at the trade deadline and after his injury he has more interest? How much sense does that make? The Bulls will do best by developing him into a new role. A hustle player who can score but does all the little things well. Build his value up and trade him. But Lavine hasn’t shown he would be willing to do that or maybe can’t. Either way Bulls are stuck with Lavine. It was a terrible move not to deal him last season while his value was high. Terrible mismanagement absolutely atrocious!
As a magic fan keep him we don’t need him in Orlando, and no black and Anthony ain’t going nowhere.
Sorry to pour cold water on this but Orlando has no interest in Lavigne. He’s good but his contract is one of the worst in the nba and the Magic will have to save enough to pay their homegrown talent in the next 2 seasons. We’ll definitely take Caruso though
Sorry to pour cold water on your self importance but you really don’t speak for the origination.
@@LockedOnBulls I was speaking on behalf of the fan base as well, there’s no interest for what it’s worth. Thanks for building our roster though, good luck.
@@LockedOnBulls Trust bro. This organization has no interest in high priced Zach Lavine when younger cheaper options like Malik Monk is available. Besides Jeff Weltman doesn't deal big like that.
When talking about young centers in this draft Kel'el Ware from Indiana is a sleeper to me. Stayed an extra year. appears to be way more polished. played behind trayce jackson-davis his freshman year, who played well for the warriors in his rookie season.
Magic fan here I’ve never heard the Magic fan wanted Lavine. I wouldn’t trade a bag of chip for Lavine it like paying $138 millions for a bag of chip why would the Magic do that if they could signed Paul George, Klay Thompson or Malik Monk for much cheaper. If they trade I see them trading for Dejounte Murray or Anfernee Simons it make more sense their salary are half of Lavine and they fit better
Pg13 or klay don’t make sense for Orlando unless they’re just looking to add value to the bench with veteran leadership. So think about that if you’re really a Magic fan
@@YKBOOGIEEE I’m not just a Magic fan I’m a day1 Magic fan. If you know the Magic you know that Banchero and Franz handle the ball run the play most of the time. The coach tried Suggs to bring up the ball run the play but he keep turning the ball over. What the Magic need is a playmaker Guard that can handle the ball run the play shoot 3 and drive to the basket. PG13 checked more boxes and make more sense than Lavine and Klay. Lavine is an unproductive injured prone $46 mil per year player you think it make sense for the Magic to give up #18 pick for him? Klay just don’t make sense at all
Stop lying u not a magic fan
@@Blackrain7920I’m a magic fan too and I agree with him
Jazz fan here. FYI All the Jazz fans blast me for suggesting this trade, but i like it.
Bulls: Clarkson, Collins, picks 29 & 32
Jazz: Lavine, pick 11
Pat be wilding.
Are the Patrick on Patrick crimes finally over? 😂 my boy showed growth
Keeping AC on the team makes us competitive. If the goal is to be competitive still, keep him.
I think Patrick was beginning to turn the corner before his injury.
How about we trade Zach to San antonio for the rights of our draft pick, and then we can continue Continuity.
Zach to Houston. Makes sense for both teams imo.
Zach and jalen green are redundant arent they?
@@classicslayer456 exactly. They would be. But and hear me out. Because you may disagree and i respect that. But Green and Sengun don’t really work together do they. Both need to be on ball to be effective
CP3 + Looney + 26 first round pick via GSW for Zach Lavine, Bulls clears one of the worst contract in NBA and get a pick, and for Warriors, they get second option. That's a win-win
Don't worry bulls fans. Highly doubt Orlando is pursuing Zach lavine with any earnest. Orlando doesn't need a third Paolo and Franz. We need a volume 3 point shoorer, preferably a point guard but the shooting is the main thing. We don't want or need lavine tho I like him as a player overall.
If they can get the 18th overall pick and possibly a player for Zach lavine why would you say don't do it you can't be doing that national media talk with us path the designer
See this is where listening comes in … nobody said the bulls shouldn’t ask or want 18 I said WHY WOULD ORLANDO DO IT
We rather look at Zack and be like hey we know you're still young but we got some old vets out there let's give them a contract Patrick Williams I know you're young but let's go out there and get a old head this is a joke
Hope Raps can get PWil for 60/4, but he might be a bust.
He turned down 4 years 64 so don't think so
What Patrick Williams please let him go
The Bulls need to send Lavine to Golden State for Wiggins and Klay Thompson. Get some players that helps the Bulls become better and playoff ready. Orlando has nobody that will advance the Bulls. New York Knicks need another shooter. Minnesota needed another shooter. Even Denver needed another scorer. Lavine is more valuable then teams are pretending. The playoffs showed the weakness on all these teams. Orlando only has one scorer. Send Lavine and Caruso to Golden State for Klay Thompson and Wiggins. Draft Yves Missi with the 11 pick a defensive beast. There is no rookie leading a team to a championship not even Wenyabama .
Patrick Williams is still young give the young guy a break
Should we be saying the same about Anthony Edwards? They came from the same draft. It’s time stop the “young” excuse and realize he’s nothing but a 3 & D role player off the bench.
Orlando will give up 18 in a week draft they are young enough.
No *$hit i said Zach as a weapon would be a target donovan mitchell cant play for 5 teams
Alex Caruso is a player for a contending team
He's a spark plug no matter what team he's on
2 in a day?
Soggy cereal is nasty 😒.
The fact that you all are even thinking about trading Zach for Moe Wagner who’s not even better the Drummond, and draft picks that may be the next Dalen Terry is ASININE 😂If Zack is traded, we need a starter I. Return that’s averaging at least 18-20ppg
The fact you don’t understand trade value and the fact every trade isn’t about getting a player that’s outright of equal value is asinine. This isn’t 2k learn real life sports come back
Insane right
@@LockedOnBulls the last time we where in this position, we traded Jimmy Butler for draft picks and pieces. Did not win more than 30 games in one season over the next 4 years. And if this team is not set to contend, Derozen ain’t coming back. He damn show ain’t coming back for Moe 😂
@@LockedOnBulls “this isn’t 2k” 😂😂you the one who fall in love with draft picks and trading for role players. Make a trade suggestion for somebody like Paul George. I remember you wanted to trade Coby White so Dalen Terry could start. He can’t even scratch the rotation 🤣
Can we talk about moving on from Billy Donovan?!
Y'all crazy azz hell moe goes no where
If Chicago are willing to get rid of Caruso, i can very well ser the Lakers take Lavine off of Chicago's hands
Look at who is in the finals, Kyrie and Luka, Tatum and brown. Zach never had a running mate in Chicago
Sorry I like soggy cereal
LOL @ soggy cereal!!😂😂😂. Yall tweakin. Bye Zach bye AC. Ink passive P to 10 mil per…
helll naw lavine can stay in chi-town thank no thanks
I want Suggs, 18, a future protected 1st and Anthony Black for Zach and P-Will
Orlando hangs up
Orlando says no 100 times out of 100 one that deal.
Delusional
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Magic don’t need Zach
Don't want him either.