actually happened to my brothers this was in elementary school and my brothers (who are one grade apart) highfived as they passed eachother in the hall the teacher heard the slap sound and thought that the older one had hit the younger one, and so she sent them to the principals office it took a lot of explaining and a visit from our mom to point out that they had high fived and not hit eachother
@@Thastormable I won’t bore you with the the small parts but, statements should be short, sweet and to the point. Taking responsibility for whatever situation is the minimum requirement. These guys pushed off blame, attacked the supporters, brought into question the integrity of the “organization”, Victim blaming, refusal to take responsibility, overly worded reply to a situation that does nothing but contain crazy convoluted response that will embarrass and potentially harm the future of the organization
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I honestly think that the host of the tournament thought Dilly teabagged an enemy, and when he realized he didn't, he didn't want to/didn't know how to retract that statement because he didn't want to sound like an idiot.
This is so true and it's not apparently obvious either -- I definitely didn't think of it. Pretty ironic situation; I'm a sensitive person and toxic bullshit bothers me but when people scapegoat those things in a bad faith attempt to power trip, it sets all of us back worse than toxicity does on its own.
In high school the other kids dropped me in a dumb trust exercise and they made us all do a mile. I get dropped and punished. Cool. I very much checked out of school and dropped out and got me GED, can’t imagine why.
I love how the official response they give is full of misinformation, lies, childish rambling and then they show two messages of dilly saying fuck in them to prove he was “toxic”… despite their own admin saying fuck several times in the barely minute long clip where he bans them… the clip they are claiming was somehow edited and taken out of context to fit dilly’s narrative despite the only edit being to zoom and show he is the only pathfinder.
@@LeoSalg like bruhh😭 who tf using CENTERED text in a fucking message APOLOGIZING. That's literally just making you look like an asshole, framing it as your holy words😭
@@deadrottenbird You’re right. It has 3. Unfortunately for you, none of those definitions is “playing a harmless prank on a friend, and then said friend laughs it off in good fun”.
Man, they are really checking all the boxes in "Can't take responsibility for my shitty actions" bingo. Claiming that community backlash and dissent is a "hate and harassment campaign." - Check Semantic nonsense such as "it was just a verbal ban" - Check Disingenuous "We are sorry that YOU feel this way" non-apology. - Check Straight up lying as if we can't just go back and watch the video footage of the incident. - Check
As someone who works in Crisis Management, this is a disaster dump fire of trying to defend the company's reputation. They just violated pretty much every rule when it comes to avoiding further damage for public perception.
Yeah the the whole seems bewildering at first but as you slowly realize that it was actually written by the owner, who is the same person that gave the initial "verbal" ban and doubled down live on stream, everything starts making a whole lot more sense. He also clearly did not consult anyone else the Fate Legion "team" because you can see his train of thought progress as he writes his dissertation, without any sign of an editor's touch to create a cohesive statement. He initially tries to distance himself as if this is the statement of Fate Legion as a whole, referring to the person who gave the ban as the "shoutcaster/owner" but then later when discussing their authority in the scene refers to himself as "I the owner" so in the hours since he started typing this up he forgot his original plan to act like he wasn't the one writing this in the first place. Also I find it hilarious that he says they could have resolved this by submitting an appeal, when he himself, the owner, said live on stream to them that it was non-negotiable even if it was a teammate, and when they're tried to discuss why he cut them off and said he wasn't going to allow them to try to keyboard warrior their way out of the ban. So they should have submitted an appeal, despite being told by the owner that it was non-negotiable, and the possibility to appeal was never even mentioned, yet that appeal would've resolved this as long as it had proof, but they were already told that proven or not they'd be banned anyways because it doesn't matter if it was a teammate. It's one thing if it's in the heat of the moment and you get flustered and double down. You know, not excusable, but if you apologize in good faith and come to your senses it's understandable. This though, this is him after having over a day to let the reality of what happened sink in, and this convoluted circular self justifying logical nonsense is what he decided on when given time to collect himself. Honestly he could have acknowledged any kind of excessively negative harassment this led to from the community, but also apologized for his own poorly thought out reaction to the initial incident and compromised, likely saving Fate Legion. Instead he chose uncompromising hubris. Bold choice.
Some people just cannot handle being wrong. I'm a manager at a retail store, and I have seen my fair share of people flying off the handle, and becoming volatile. There are always one of two reasons for them to meltdown and start screaming: 1) They have a mental disability. 2) They realize they are wrong about something, and feel the need to become VERY defensive and loud, in order to protect their ego.
@@skrounst When someone comes in complaining about a product, and it's a product that you immediately recognize and know for a fact that you don't sell, but they are convinced that they purchased it from you. So you try to be friendly and let them know it's not your product but you want to advise them in a helpful way anyways, their response is almost always to double down, worsen their tone, and ask "are you calling me a liar?" Leaving you with a horrible lose-lose situation of either lying to make them feel better, or trying to kindly be honest (which they will hate your existence for) but optimistically having a shred of hope in humanity that they'll be somewhat reasonable. This guy doesn't understand that he should be acting as the humble business owner, but instead is trying to play the role of the entitled customer.
an example on how they could have replied: "While we understand that this specific incident was a gesture between friends, we are choosing to update our policy on good sportsmanship to include any behavior toward teammates or friends. From this day forward we no longer allow any form of t-bagging or poor sportsmanship toward any person in our tournament. Thank you." no bans, no bad publicity, no anger, no story.
"Studies have shown..." Who the fuck and how the fuck can people even do these so-called "studies" on people doing teabagging in video games? Are there like people in lab coats watching hours of gaming streams with clipboards in their hands to record how frequent gamers teabag each other or do suggestive gestures as a joke?
"Studies have shown that the increase of teabagging in games leads to more death in these games. Conclusion: Teabagging is one of the leading causes of murder 🤓" Couldn't possibly be the other way around, people teabagging because of how much they outplayed their opponent and said opponent raging because he got schooled... Teabagging leads to unsportsmanship 🤓
I’d say it’s more like a gang of people rob a place and go to jail… but also the dude they stole from goes to jail… and also they weren’t robbing the place at all, they were just there to get something a few minutes after closing time and the owner let them in
that's what confused me lmao they banned the whole team because one guy teabagged another teammate, then say "teabagging is unsportsmen-like and toxic" just to punish the 'victim' that got teabagged?
The fact that they had to ban the supposed “victim” in this case in order to enforce the overall ban just shows how weak and nonsensical their argument is
The fact the game itself has "finishers" that mock and insult the player after killing them is worst than "tea bagging" better ban all players for toxic behaviour
the fact that pathfinder (the character got t-bagged) has an actual ingame emote that shows him doing the t-bag. that's likely the best thing ever, they basically say this is toxic and unprofessional, yet Respawn put an actual emote in the game where the robot spins around slowly to then proceed to t-bag.
Ikr? Characters will literally call you trash after shooting you in the face or stamping on your neck, but if somebody crouches on you they're toxic and must be banned. Also there's that pathfinder squats emote that serves no other purpose than to be used as an alt tbag
You got a point BUT... A respawn dev already got mad over someone doing a finisher (I think it was josh medina malding over taxi2g but don't quote me on that), so it was a matter of time before something like this happened lmao
@@NateTheGreat368 Sucks to fuckin suck, maybe they should be more aware of what player's will do with any tool they're given. How did we go from Bungie knowing exactly when and where Players would choose to kill teammates and allow them the option (Captain Keyes is a perfect example of Bungie knowing what the player would want to do) to now Devs being surprised that players are using a fucking squat emote to tbag
So basically: "We got power hungry and banned you unfairly, however, since you let everyone know about our terrible management and administration you're now permanently banned." Feels like blackmail to me.
@@lonelee5353 I like how this actually kind of applies to the topic, if you think about it for a second. This bot was teabagging you, before you even commented on it's comment. This bot asserted his dominance over you, before you were even here. By the logic of Fate Legion, you both should be banned from UA-cam now. Then again, this is UA-cam. Most likely outcome: Only you get banned for botting and the actual bot stays unbanned. I could go on, but i think this is a most accurate (and almost most ridiculous) summary of the user experience nowadays and not just with UA-cam or Fate Legion.
The guy claims Tbaging in a "professional" environment is toxic and unprofessional while at the same time swearing left and right whiling ripping a dirty bong on stream. Who's really being unprofessional here?
I find it very fitting that they have their comments locked on Twitter, on the official post for this response. It clearly shows they cannot handle criticism and being rightfully called out and dragged on social media. If you stand by your statement, you should be able to defend it too.
Imagine if someone like the admin hosted the Olympics, and disqualified an entire country because two friends in one sport were doing faces at each other or something as equally childishly innocent as teabagging. Thankfully the admin acts as if he has no life outside his computer room.
imagine if a runner in the olympics put his balls on a players face on live television, and then he's like "nah it's cool guys, i put my balls on my teammates face." you don't think something would be done about that?
@Mirsty But the host compared it to real life sports and sportsmanship, that's why we all know he'd be a shit castor if he ever led something like a tennis tournament.
It's kinda goofy how this ban feels more toxic that the actual thing the guy was banned for. He could have just not said ANYTHING and it would have felt less disrespectful than this.
Team dynamic is something people enjoy, having a team that mess around with each other and are just there to have fun in a harmless way, is fun and enjoyable to watch. Banning that makes your tournament boring, and makes the entire event less fun.
@@blehbleh2186 I believe there was a link at the bottom of that paragraph and I was waiting for Charlie to open it. I wouldn't be surprised if that ''scientific study'' was written by an angry man child who got tea bagged on plenty of times in various games. XD
If they're gonna write it like a bad college essay, they should at least put a mid-essay citation right after the claim so it doesn't sound like BS that people will ignore the link at the bottom.
Friends: laughing Host: Bruh laughing is toxic, it's against the rules and unsportsmanship to laugh or make your friends laugh at the expense of nobody If anything, their rule that was "broken" was completely the opposite, the teabagging WAS wanted, and of course wasn't is anyway against any of the topics they listed like race or religion. All they did with this was expose and admit that the tournament host was breaking their own rules by engaging in arguments and shouting, and not being banned, so they are not only hypocrits, but they don't even know who to be hypocritical against as the people were not doing anything wrong until after an unfair disqualification. What is this twitch? Not banning the staff for breaking rules is like not banning hot tub streams because they are some of the biggest earners on the platform, a VIP with essentially diplomatic immunity.
To be honest you make a point with the laughing joke, because when you get down to it anything can be considered toxic. What they're essentially telling dilly is "inside jokes are toxic" and as for the whole not punishing the caster, that destroys the whole "rules for thee, not for me" sentiment, and would basically be them admitting their wrong, which base on what I've heard is something that's completely foreign to them. I just can't get over the part where it says how t-bagging is usually followed buy unsportsmanlike wording, so what I'm hearing is because SOME people aren't the best sports, because SOME people get too into the game and can't control themselves, that means that the action as a whole is banned. Some people are being stupid, and EVERYONE is having to suffer a consequence that you didn't even specify.
Its the sad reality we live in. Gone are the fun times of the 00s and early 10s multiplayer gaming full of friendly trash talk and people flipping out, now everything is loaded up with arbitrary rules and regulations that allows activist admins to ban anyone they don't like at their discretion. One of the many reasons I don't bother gaming anymore
"Dilly failed to prove he teabagged his teammate." It's... it's literally in the video. I find it hilarious that the company complaining about toxic behavior is actually gaslighting people.
Crazy how tbagging stirs the pot. It's literally your own teammate, so much character development is involved in communication and knowing your team. Their humor on their own teammate is great.
Doubling down because they're embarrassed that they were wrong, and now they can't go back so they're taking it even further to the point they don't even care about their reputation anymore as long as they can delude themselves into thinking they were in the right. Companies like this with bad/no PR support should be few and far between, but are far more common than I'd like to acknowledge.
Teabagging is literally just a joke and it leads to ironic situations where people who teabag get killed because they're focused on teabagging, there is no need to punish people who do it, they put themselves at risk of losing by doing it
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Everyone has been there. Teabagging an enemy laughing your ass off then you get blasted in the process. Then said guy comes and 3rd party tea bags you. Probably the best part of gaming for me.
As of this afternoon (7/21/22, 4:30PM EST), they decided to stream their double down statement and pretty much explain themselves and the only way you can chat in the Twitch channel is if they are subbed to the channel to avoid criticism... Honestly weird behavior.
The worst part of this to me is the whole logic of "obviously you should have know that it was just a verbal ban that didn't actually mean anything we were just kidding" like ????? You banned the guy, he explained the situation and you doubled down. Why would he think that this ban isn't set in stone?? He had absolutely every right to think that.
I like how they do this whole “it was for our viewers” claim when the viewers are upset about the stupid ban too. Those who aren’t have never had fun with friends in a game. Teabagging your own friend and everyone involved having a giggle about it isn’t unsportsmanlike in any way. There is no victim, and if anything seeing the bond between teammates only makes watching it fun. But in degrading that fun aspect, they’ve degraded their own tournament.
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The fact that killing another player is less harmful than teabagging infuriates me. That's priorities for someone being soft, and it shows tons of backward logic on this dreadful ban.
Imagine getting the wrong coffee at a Starbucks and when you complain about it, they close the shop, compare you to a, “sexual assaulter,” and get the whole world involved in the argument? Who TF would ever go there after that? Especially after someone like Charlie rips them apart with basic reason, logic and lol humor?
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So let me get this straight. In their eyes tbagging a teammate is unsportsmanlike and Dilly disrespcted, abused, or upset his teammate. But then they go ahead and ban his teammate too? So who's the victim here? Is there a victim? Would you BAN a victim?
@@waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3 I actually almost got a suspension in highschool because I insulted someone's mom, after he was non stop harassing me. I even kinda said it in a joke manner, as I really didn't care at all to be honest. But turns out his mom was dead. So I, somehow, went from being the victim to being the bully, in the eyes of the dumbass teacher and people around. I didn't get the suspension because I actually didn't know about his mom, not like I cared anyways. Talk shit, get hit, imo.
People like this never admit to wrongdoing. They'll carry this all the way to the grave ("don't call it a grave, it's the future you chose") and probably try to use it as a victimhood card the whole way.
@@LibraritheWizardOfficial they're like a bully. Kick people when they're down and cry victim the whole time. When they get called out on their BS, they then blame society instead.
I don't know if anyone will remember this but this kind of reminds me of the time where a bunch of people were trying to make a gaming police where if you insult or make fun of anyone they could just call the gaming police and banned you in any game
"Speaking of misinformation and facts, let us dive into them, shall we." I'm sure that out of everything in this statement, this was the "Close Browser Tab" moment for everyone. Even for those who came in wanting to give it a chance, that has an air of "we know we're right" and it's repulsive.
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The moment someone says "misinformation" nowadays I switch off. It's literally just a buzzword of people who think they know everything but actually know very little.
This reminds me of something that happened in 8th grade Me and my friends, sitting together at lunch, and one of them gets up to talk to another buddy, I try to get their attention because I had a funny joke, and it doesn't work so instead I tug on their sleeve and tell them the joke. 3 seconds later, some lunch supervisor runs up to me, slaps my hand for some reason and yells at me for "assaulting them", then proceeded to explain what assault was like I was in kindergarten, even though this person knows very well that we are in eighth grade lunch. Both me and my friend (the "victim") tell the supervisor that they are overreacting, and that that's not what actually happened. You'd think they would stop there, right? They got frustrated, and called the principal which has an unreasonable bias against me. (As in I was being watched for 1 wrong move from week 1) He then brought me, my friend, and the supervisor into a room. Me and my friend explained why what they are saying is wrong, and they started making up complete bs. "I told them 1000 times to stop but he wouldn't listen! He savagely attacked that child with a spork!" And belive it or not, the principal actually buys it. He believes every single word, even though the VICTIM is saying that what she is saying is not true. We then had to sit separated for the rest of the school year, and both the principal and supervisor got away with this scot free. Really?
When the internet treats you like Amber Heard and instead of reflecting on your actions, and thinking perhaps I am the villain here, you double down and create a conspiracy where the world is out to get you, just like Amber Heard. They are over here saying voice chat is discriminatory to LGBTQ and women and should not be used in competitive play and the world is shitting all over them, rightfully so.
These guys clearly never played MW2. We have all have been called everything under the sun for anything some rager didn't approve of and kept rolling or started talking shit back. This safe space garbage already ruined colleges and now they want to drag it into gaming and create the same soft headed, humorless homunculus that "Like literally just can't right now" with every shift in the wind that drain your energy every day on social media or, if you're unfortunate enough to live in cities where these people are present, in your daily life.
It's times like this that make me appreciate genuine apologies so much more. This dude is grasping at straws. Even his reaction and failed defense on his stream showed how he knew he was wrong from the start. If you're going to avoid apologizing, at least don't straight lie to people about the events. Better yet just take the fucking L.
It sounds like this event was held by someone who was tbagged once as a dumb kid and was so traumatized by the experience that as an adult go on a crusade against tbagging and other such "toxic behavior". What a hero.
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Honestly, props to that guy for being the first person ever to ban the person who got t-bagged. I look forward to what other victim blaming his company and tournament broadcast LOL
I like how Charlie said "hill to die on" because in my family whenever it's something stupid and nonsensical that a person is defending we say it's a "ditch to die in" there's no honor in this, they don't look good
gotta love how they excuse the initial ban as a "heat of the moment" decision that didn't hold any weight while simultaniously condemning the people that were banned for having a heat of the moment response to said ban
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@@disguisedcentennial835 i don't really understand American politics so can you clarify why emotional abuse has anything to do with being politically left or right?
@@manamana7712 It's just a conservative projecting. Basically trying to argue that their emotional reactions are totally justified whereas anyone else's isn't.
"Oh no people are angry with us because we did something stupid! Hurry gaslight them!" And you know they know they're in the wrong, because people can't reply to the tweet. People who put out a good statement won't need to prevent further discourse.
The worst crime in humanity, “the bag of tea” an art form as old as gaming itself, the art demonized by modern gaming culture. I say nay that’s not bussin fr fr.
“We’re banning you for teabagging” “Ok we won’t ban you for teabagging, but we’re gonna ban you for being an asshole and not letting us get away with our bullshit”
The really funny part is his "You can't teabag in any other sports league" Meanwhile pro baseball players be out here setting each other's shoes on fire. (see hotfooting)
I think I know what happened here. The mod who banned Dilly must have been teabagged a bunch when he was playing games as a kid, and it has absolutely shattered his senses. It now triggers a psychological reaction and the fact that he was able to act out against it in a "justified" manner gave him a sense of euphoria.
the TL:DR of that novel of a statement is this: "We didn't actually ban him. But now that he complained about getting banned, which we didn't actually do, we're banning him for complaining and also actually for the t-bagging."
I was playing Elden Ring and invaded someone as per Varré's questline, the dude had a buddy who jumped me from behind and ended up killing me... They then proceeded to simulate t-bagging me. This made me close the game, eat half a bag of Cheetos and contemplate not playing for another day. I am currently contemplating suing them both, sue From Software and sue my internet provider for making me witness this.
Also trying to do the Varre quest, I ran into three guys. They found me, and I just stood there. This one guy attacked me with spells, and I dodged all of them, not once showing aggression (I was mostly just trying to see how much time I could waste). His friends ended up killing me. Then this guy, who did no damage because I dodged everything, comes up and teabags me. That was one of the only ones I was legitimately tilted about because it was so undeserved.
This ban is such an overreaction to making things feel a "safer." When people demand "safer" spaces they are normally just asking for people to not say violent or hateful things (if we're being gaming specifics, examples include dropping the N word, telling female players they'll r*pe them, or having a gamer moment™️ and raging out). Teabagging isn't assault. If teabagging reminds you of assault then you shouldn't be watching or playing videogames.
charlie legit said the same thing i said, if the caster didn't care about the tbagging, this would've never happened, it was due to his overreaction to something that simple and instead of just laughing it off, he disqualifies a team for it
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If these people can’t handle tea bagging in game, than I cant imagine how they’ll react when they find out that people are actually killing each other in games too.
The emote argument is a really good point. What if instead of tea bagging he used an emote, an ingame mechanic, even after he killed someone. What is the purpose of emotes anyway? When are we supposed to use them? Would that be more bannable than pressing the control button 3 times?
@@DerPlaystationZocker It has been so long since I've seen someone legitimately use "ducking" in a sentence and I'm not gonna lie, my brain immediately autocorrected it to "fucking". That was great lmfao Edited* cause I can't type to save my fricken life
Wait if they're banning him for "harrassing" someone, doesnt that mean they're also banning the "victim" for being "harrassed" since it was his own team mate?
The one point I kinda wanna target is their thing about being new to e-sports tournament organizing: I'm pretty sure they aren't lying there. I've been following these guys for a few years now, from even before they were Fate Legion (they used to be called Figure 8 E-sports and I guess they just condensed it down to "F8 > Fate" somewhere along the way). They always came off as very amateurish, even after the rebrand. I remember back when they were still Figure 8 they posted a clip of a player under their banner getting an "insane 5k in CS!!" but it was against bots and he was using the auto sniper (I went and looked, everything from when they were Figure 8 is gone from their Instagram so I can't corroborate that at all unfortunately). Their whole page was littered with pretty sub-par clips with the occasional cool play -- the reason I followed them in the first place was because of a Rocket League player that seemed to play for them that had some cool clips. After a while I was following them more for these sub-par plays purely for entertainment, and the good stuff became a little rarer. They always struck me as earnest but new and not particularly good at video games. It's kinda funny seeing them blow up like this when they've been tiny the whole time I've known about them. I don't disagree that this is a gross mishandling of the situation, but they are definitely very new to tournament organizing. I think they just didn't want to get caught in any scandal at all and overreacted, and ended up being way too safe in response. This whole second response is definitely icing on the cake though - but not particularly surprising given what I've seen from these guys in the past.
That actually sounds kinda fun. You have to start thinking about where the bodies of your opponents are so that you can both teabag them in time and not die while teabagging.
Isn't there a game some years ago where the whole point of it is to down the enemy, then teabag them so they will permanently die, but their teammates can stop you and revive them.
@@yeetusdeletus7039 that would be both horrifying, because that would mean a better charlie, but also impressive, because that would be a better charlie
This seems almost intentional, making rules so vague that they can twist them to mean anything they want. This is an abomination of a PR statement. I’m going in circles thinking of why they’d do something like this.
An eight paragraph pamphlet that could just be condensed down to "I've been hurt in the past and I am taking it out on you" all for teabagging a teammate
@@MrPancake1225ayylmao I feel like Cannabis is and should be a gray area. Like it's a medicine... but the host ain't gotta be out there with it like that. Use another platform for it. Even me as a smoker would never do something as foolish as ripping a bong whilst hosting a tournament in motion. XD This fuckin world is so outta hand sometimes, it's laughable. Yet still inexcusable.
@@extendedclipricco3214 can't disagree with ya there. There's a time and a place for everything. Like I'd never consider doing that while actively hosting a tourney, or I'd at least be a bit more subtle about it.
One of the best things from this is Fate Legion talking about professionalism on stream, but the host literally ripped a bong mid cast. They go on to talk about how people will copy the toxic behaviors like teabagging cause they saw it on stream, well I just saw the host smoke a fatty rip so now I'm a drug addict thanks Fate Legion.
I can't believe they run a business with that level of "professionalism", or the lack of it. It is also mind boggling that instead of hiring a PR for the mess they've caused, they hired a redditor. What a f.u.cking dumpster of an organization.
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If teabagging is considered legitimate sexual contact, these 2 gentlemen were just discriminated against for engaging in consensual, virtual gay sex.
that's a good argument lol
Based. How dare these organizers discriminate against these men.
Oh nah
The best POV ever
LMAO
"We wouldn't have permanently banned him if he hadn't called us out for permanently banning him." Is certainly a bold argument
Blame the victims here.. their evidence is skechy at best.
It'd also text book abuse to turn blame on the victim lmfao
This is like police raiding and tearing up the wrong house and then arresting the homeowner for yelling at them
@@totempolejoe1 they would do that tho, wouldn’t they? Lol
I would have stopped at the stoplight officer if the stoplight told me to
This is like if you jokingly slug your friend in the arm in school, you both laugh, and the teacher sends you to the principal’s office for fighting.
actually happened to my brothers
this was in elementary school and my brothers (who are one grade apart) highfived as they passed eachother in the hall
the teacher heard the slap sound and thought that the older one had hit the younger one, and so she sent them to the principals office
it took a lot of explaining and a visit from our mom to point out that they had high fived and not hit eachother
Who are you and how did you know this happened to me?
If my friend slugged me in the arm we wouldn't be friends anymore.
@@billcipher1756 wow those people at that school and this dog water legion need to get tea bagged on rn
That's so true, wow,
As someone who works in PR. This “organization” has broken every rule with public statements. 😂
Out of curiosity, what is the rules of PR when it comes to making public statements like this? Because this certainly isn't a apology.
@@Thastormable I won’t bore you with the the small parts but, statements should be short, sweet and to the point. Taking responsibility for whatever situation is the minimum requirement. These guys pushed off blame, attacked the supporters, brought into question the integrity of the “organization”, Victim blaming, refusal to take responsibility, overly worded reply to a situation that does nothing but contain crazy convoluted response that will embarrass and potentially harm the future of the organization
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One might argue two teammates being able to joke about like that at each other is a sign of great sportsmanship.
Some of the best teammates I've ever had in team-based games were ones that I would insult and they would insult back, all in good nature too
@@kinsan89 shit, I've seen strong marriages like that
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"We do have rules in place. Sure, not rules against teabagging, but we do have rules"
what an incredibly dense group of humans these are.
"We have rules in place, but since they don't support what actually happened, we are going to bend them to make it fit our agenda."
Yeag
@@Fenrir2438 same 🤣
Apex as a whole is a woke mess.
I honestly think that the host of the tournament thought Dilly teabagged an enemy, and when he realized he didn't, he didn't want to/didn't know how to retract that statement because he didn't want to sound like an idiot.
Imagine you're teammate "assaulting" you by tea baging you, then the organization bans you for getting tea bagged. Bro was a victim in game and irl.
You get hit with a drive by shooting, then the ambulance runs you over and the paramedics laugh at you
This is so true and it's not apparently obvious either -- I definitely didn't think of it. Pretty ironic situation; I'm a sensitive person and toxic bullshit bothers me but when people scapegoat those things in a bad faith attempt to power trip, it sets all of us back worse than toxicity does on its own.
*your
@@ferretyluv that’s assault
In high school the other kids dropped me in a dumb trust exercise and they made us all do a mile. I get dropped and punished. Cool. I very much checked out of school and dropped out and got me GED, can’t imagine why.
I love how the official response they give is full of misinformation, lies, childish rambling and then they show two messages of dilly saying fuck in them to prove he was “toxic”… despite their own admin saying fuck several times in the barely minute long clip where he bans them… the clip they are claiming was somehow edited and taken out of context to fit dilly’s narrative despite the only edit being to zoom and show he is the only pathfinder.
A professional group, making an unprofessional list of words that burn my eyes.
@@junkoenoshima6756 that exactly makes them unprofessional
this. 💯
"Its not professional"
*Proceeds to type out the most reddit-like essay and doubling down horrendously*
and used centered text instead of justify text too. Not professional at all lmao
@@LeoSalg like bruhh😭 who tf using CENTERED text in a fucking message APOLOGIZING. That's literally just making you look like an asshole, framing it as your holy words😭
Bro was literally just typing random shit that didn't make sense like he had to hit a word requirement on a school essay.
To the earth core.
*hits bong professionally*
Calling teabagging "assault" is a slap to the face to actual assault victims.
no it isn't. assault doesnt have one definition.
@@deadrottenbird I’m pretty sure it isn’t a joke between friends
@@deadrottenbird at the very least for there to be assault someone has to feel assaulted... And his teammate definitely did not.
@@deadrottenbird You’re right. It has 3. Unfortunately for you, none of those definitions is “playing a harmless prank on a friend, and then said friend laughs it off in good fun”.
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Man, they are really checking all the boxes in "Can't take responsibility for my shitty actions" bingo.
Claiming that community backlash and dissent is a "hate and harassment campaign." - Check
Semantic nonsense such as "it was just a verbal ban" - Check
Disingenuous "We are sorry that YOU feel this way" non-apology. - Check
Straight up lying as if we can't just go back and watch the video footage of the incident. - Check
That means they win the prize of "even more community backlash"
BINGO!
You forgot 'Demonstrating an IQ in the negatives'
@@richardbudge9416 that’s called the “free space”
As someone who works in Crisis Management, this is a disaster dump fire of trying to defend the company's reputation. They just violated pretty much every rule when it comes to avoiding further damage for public perception.
honestly this dudes the type of guy to punish kids for high fiving in the school yard reasoning that its "uncalled for violence"
True they'd make it out that slapping your friend's hand is as bad as slapping another kid
fist bumps would be almost like a bomb threat
This ban is much more disrespectful than any virtual teabagging could ever be
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Im sorry for the bombardment of bots that just took over your comment.
Here's a comment that's not from a bot. Totally agree.
Summary: he doesn’t want to admit he’s wrong for banning their team.
Yeah the the whole seems bewildering at first but as you slowly realize that it was actually written by the owner, who is the same person that gave the initial "verbal" ban and doubled down live on stream, everything starts making a whole lot more sense. He also clearly did not consult anyone else the Fate Legion "team" because you can see his train of thought progress as he writes his dissertation, without any sign of an editor's touch to create a cohesive statement. He initially tries to distance himself as if this is the statement of Fate Legion as a whole, referring to the person who gave the ban as the "shoutcaster/owner" but then later when discussing their authority in the scene refers to himself as "I the owner" so in the hours since he started typing this up he forgot his original plan to act like he wasn't the one writing this in the first place.
Also I find it hilarious that he says they could have resolved this by submitting an appeal, when he himself, the owner, said live on stream to them that it was non-negotiable even if it was a teammate, and when they're tried to discuss why he cut them off and said he wasn't going to allow them to try to keyboard warrior their way out of the ban. So they should have submitted an appeal, despite being told by the owner that it was non-negotiable, and the possibility to appeal was never even mentioned, yet that appeal would've resolved this as long as it had proof, but they were already told that proven or not they'd be banned anyways because it doesn't matter if it was a teammate.
It's one thing if it's in the heat of the moment and you get flustered and double down. You know, not excusable, but if you apologize in good faith and come to your senses it's understandable. This though, this is him after having over a day to let the reality of what happened sink in, and this convoluted circular self justifying logical nonsense is what he decided on when given time to collect himself.
Honestly he could have acknowledged any kind of excessively negative harassment this led to from the community, but also apologized for his own poorly thought out reaction to the initial incident and compromised, likely saving Fate Legion. Instead he chose uncompromising hubris. Bold choice.
the kind of guy who steals from they’re friends cause apparently it was they’re stuff then wonder why his friends stopped playing with him
Some people just cannot handle being wrong. I'm a manager at a retail store, and I have seen my fair share of people flying off the handle, and becoming volatile. There are always one of two reasons for them to meltdown and start screaming: 1) They have a mental disability. 2) They realize they are wrong about something, and feel the need to become VERY defensive and loud, in order to protect their ego.
@@skrounst When someone comes in complaining about a product, and it's a product that you immediately recognize and know for a fact that you don't sell, but they are convinced that they purchased it from you. So you try to be friendly and let them know it's not your product but you want to advise them in a helpful way anyways, their response is almost always to double down, worsen their tone, and ask "are you calling me a liar?" Leaving you with a horrible lose-lose situation of either lying to make them feel better, or trying to kindly be honest (which they will hate your existence for) but optimistically having a shred of hope in humanity that they'll be somewhat reasonable.
This guy doesn't understand that he should be acting as the humble business owner, but instead is trying to play the role of the entitled customer.
"we apologize for the turmoil caused by this incident" as if the caster wasn't the one that made it a turmoil
an example on how they could have replied:
"While we understand that this specific incident was a gesture between friends, we are choosing to update our policy on good sportsmanship to include any behavior toward teammates or friends. From this day forward we no longer allow any form of t-bagging or poor sportsmanship toward any person in our tournament. Thank you."
no bans, no bad publicity, no anger, no story.
If anything, they made t-bagging more socially acceptable.
Perfect
Is winning showing dominance over another? Should they ban who won and then keep going down the line until they played in a tourney for strictly fun?
that is still insane.
@@logandarnell8946 tryna get to their level lol it sounds dumb
"Studies have shown..."
Who the fuck and how the fuck can people even do these so-called "studies" on people doing teabagging in video games? Are there like people in lab coats watching hours of gaming streams with clipboards in their hands to record how frequent gamers teabag each other or do suggestive gestures as a joke?
Dilly: haha teabagging funny
The org: 🤓 SOURCE?!?! CITATION?!?!
My thoughts exactly. That shit is beyond silly
They probably got some company, paid them to fake some research and be done with it
"Studies have shown that the increase of teabagging in games leads to more death in these games. Conclusion: Teabagging is one of the leading causes of murder 🤓" Couldn't possibly be the other way around, people teabagging because of how much they outplayed their opponent and said opponent raging because he got schooled... Teabagging leads to unsportsmanship 🤓
They're probably doing studies to find out how to make the biggest asses out of themselves.
RIP safe space for the players. Getting banned randomly for unlisted rules will DEFINITELY make players feel safe at tourneys
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Goddamn so many fucking bots
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i love that the teammate, i.e. the victim of the teabagging, was also banned
glad justice is being served
Well yeah. It’s essentially like calling the cops and getting shot…. For safety
@@thedude5616 “There was blood all over them. They clearly were the shooter!”
I’d say it’s more like a gang of people rob a place and go to jail… but also the dude they stole from goes to jail… and also they weren’t robbing the place at all, they were just there to get something a few minutes after closing time and the owner let them in
@@zipdakill accurate
that's what confused me lmao
they banned the whole team because one guy teabagged another teammate, then say "teabagging is unsportsmen-like and toxic" just to punish the 'victim' that got teabagged?
Dilly: “They don’t have any rules regarding toxicity.”
Fate Legion: “That’s not true! Our rules just don’t specifically highlight toxicity.”
Wtf? 😂
So..... correct? Lmao
@@SparkKnight556 yes. Literally, yes lol
Fate Legion takes so many L’s for that, alone 😂
The fact that they had to ban the supposed “victim” in this case in order to enforce the overall ban just shows how weak and nonsensical their argument is
Its like victim blaming, "He got bullied, so he must be the problem"
The fact the game itself has "finishers" that mock and insult the player after killing them is worst than "tea bagging" better ban all players for toxic behaviour
the fact that pathfinder (the character got t-bagged) has an actual ingame emote that shows him doing the t-bag.
that's likely the best thing ever, they basically say this is toxic and unprofessional, yet Respawn put an actual emote in the game where the robot spins around slowly to then proceed to t-bag.
Ikr? Characters will literally call you trash after shooting you in the face or stamping on your neck, but if somebody crouches on you they're toxic and must be banned. Also there's that pathfinder squats emote that serves no other purpose than to be used as an alt tbag
mad maggie finisher after a total disrespect from her she spit on the enemy , and i like it !!
You got a point BUT...
A respawn dev already got mad over someone doing a finisher (I think it was josh medina malding over taxi2g but don't quote me on that), so it was a matter of time before something like this happened lmao
@@NateTheGreat368 Sucks to fuckin suck, maybe they should be more aware of what player's will do with any tool they're given. How did we go from Bungie knowing exactly when and where Players would choose to kill teammates and allow them the option (Captain Keyes is a perfect example of Bungie knowing what the player would want to do) to now Devs being surprised that players are using a fucking squat emote to tbag
So basically:
"We got power hungry and banned you unfairly, however, since you let everyone know about our terrible management and administration you're now permanently banned."
Feels like blackmail to me.
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It totally is, and gaslighting
@@dontreadprofilephoto1728 Okay
Feels like a lose-lose situation for them
As they will eventually die off from obscurity and ridicule
@@icetweiz Yep. A simple "sorry we made a mistake, won't happen again" would be more effective than this Sherlock Holmes bullshit.
This whole response statement felt like a major teabag to every reasonable person out there.
Calling 2 friends teabagging in a game sexual assault is like saying a couple having sex on Valentine’s Day is rape
@qopoy dnon can you please shut up bot, nobody is going to fall for your scam
@qopoy dnon bro why tf do you steal comments ? oh wait it's a bot
@@lonelee5353 I like how this actually kind of applies to the topic, if you think about it for a second.
This bot was teabagging you, before you even commented on it's comment. This bot asserted his dominance over you, before you were even here.
By the logic of Fate Legion, you both should be banned from UA-cam now. Then again, this is UA-cam. Most likely outcome: Only you get banned for botting and the actual bot stays unbanned.
I could go on, but i think this is a most accurate (and almost most ridiculous) summary of the user experience nowadays and not just with UA-cam or Fate Legion.
@@Haggysack2k8 did you just write an essay on the interaction between two comments ?
you are right tho
Its always crazy to me that these companies would rather go out of business than apologize
The whole “go woke go broke” narrative seems to be infecting every business now, even small ones.
Bruh these comments
Too much money and clout on the line, even if it made more sense financially and publicly to apologize.
why did they decide to make unicode a mess
Because their stupid, companies never think their wrong because its the people who are wrong.
The guy claims Tbaging in a "professional" environment is toxic and unprofessional while at the same time swearing left and right whiling ripping a dirty bong on stream. Who's really being unprofessional here?
Teabagging is a good thing in general.
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everyone should have resigned to show this guy - but I guess times are tough and it's hard to take a L when you're struggling
@@BaitPolice thank you my good sir
This company really said "objection, hearsay" to us
I find it very fitting that they have their comments locked on Twitter, on the official post for this response. It clearly shows they cannot handle criticism and being rightfully called out and dragged on social media. If you stand by your statement, you should be able to defend it too.
Imagine if someone like the admin hosted the Olympics, and disqualified an entire country because two friends in one sport were doing faces at each other or something as equally childishly innocent as teabagging. Thankfully the admin acts as if he has no life outside his computer room.
imagine if a runner in the olympics put his balls on a players face on live television, and then he's like "nah it's cool guys, i put my balls on my teammates face." you don't think something would be done about that?
Ripped a bong literally 20 minutes after the apex stream, so somehow I’m guessing he isn’t the biggest go-getter lmao
@Mirsty Nah its really not.
Except instead of faces its one of them.putting his nuts on the others face lol
@Mirsty But the host compared it to real life sports and sportsmanship, that's why we all know he'd be a shit castor if he ever led something like a tennis tournament.
It's kinda goofy how this ban feels more toxic that the actual thing the guy was banned for. He could have just not said ANYTHING and it would have felt less disrespectful than this.
These bait bots are so annoying
@@Cholincy UA-cam working as intended 😒
@@Cholincy just report them and ignore it
I hate One piece spoilers
@@Smolnsalty Idk if reporting would do anything knowing UA-cam. at this point it just has a placebo effect
Now I want to see Moist Esports host an Apex tournament with one special rule: The kill doesn't count unless you T-Bag your opponent
so kill confirmed but with more nuts?
sounds like fun
@@ditto-w Nuts Confirmed
I swear that is a gamemode somewhere
Splitgate made this in response to the situation lol
Team dynamic is something people enjoy, having a team that mess around with each other and are just there to have fun in a harmless way, is fun and enjoyable to watch. Banning that makes your tournament boring, and makes the entire event less fun.
It should also make the event less populated. Like, I don't want to attend an event hosted by people who are going to go nuclear for no reason.
The host probably felt offended that they were having fun and not “taking his tournament seriously”
Exactly what happened lol
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I think it awakened the primal rage that is getting t-bagged in a Halo lobby when you’re 9 and he just let it out
Not "taking his tournament seriously" when the host literally ripped a bong on the stream. The fucking hypocrisy on this dude.
@@brinculges7165 i don't think it's fair to call it hypocrisy when the original comment was a strawman argument
i just died laughing at the use of "studies show" as if they were talking about actual peer reviewed scientific studies
Right? where are their citations?
Did they even give a source for that 'study' because I don't think they did.
@@blehbleh2186 I believe there was a link at the bottom of that paragraph and I was waiting for Charlie to open it. I wouldn't be surprised if that ''scientific study'' was written by an angry man child who got tea bagged on plenty of times in various games. XD
Source?
I made it the fuck up!
If they're gonna write it like a bad college essay, they should at least put a mid-essay citation right after the claim so it doesn't sound like BS that people will ignore the link at the bottom.
If they're getting cyberbullied for this, they deserve it 100%
Friends: laughing
Host: Bruh laughing is toxic, it's against the rules and unsportsmanship to laugh or make your friends laugh at the expense of nobody
If anything, their rule that was "broken" was completely the opposite, the teabagging WAS wanted, and of course wasn't is anyway against any of the topics they listed like race or religion. All they did with this was expose and admit that the tournament host was breaking their own rules by engaging in arguments and shouting, and not being banned, so they are not only hypocrits, but they don't even know who to be hypocritical against as the people were not doing anything wrong until after an unfair disqualification.
What is this twitch? Not banning the staff for breaking rules is like not banning hot tub streams because they are some of the biggest earners on the platform, a VIP with essentially diplomatic immunity.
Jesus
To be honest you make a point with the laughing joke, because when you get down to it anything can be considered toxic. What they're essentially telling dilly is "inside jokes are toxic" and as for the whole not punishing the caster, that destroys the whole "rules for thee, not for me" sentiment, and would basically be them admitting their wrong, which base on what I've heard is something that's completely foreign to them.
I just can't get over the part where it says how t-bagging is usually followed buy unsportsmanlike wording, so what I'm hearing is because SOME people aren't the best sports, because SOME people get too into the game and can't control themselves, that means that the action as a whole is banned. Some people are being stupid, and EVERYONE is having to suffer a consequence that you didn't even specify.
The fact all of this is being caused by a guy teabagging his friend is just absurd.
@Kavetion better at making your dad leave to go get the milk
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Its the sad reality we live in. Gone are the fun times of the 00s and early 10s multiplayer gaming full of friendly trash talk and people flipping out, now everything is loaded up with arbitrary rules and regulations that allows activist admins to ban anyone they don't like at their discretion.
One of the many reasons I don't bother gaming anymore
@@_-Kyle-_ JESUS
What's really caused this is their inability to admit they were wrong as shit here.
"Dilly failed to prove he teabagged his teammate." It's... it's literally in the video. I find it hilarious that the company complaining about toxic behavior is actually gaslighting people.
No no you don’t understand. There were other pathfinders in the lobby. Like the Marvins
PR 101
That’s because almost no companies believe in their ideas. They just do the bare minimum to get a good investment score from blackrock.
i cant believe they fucking said that LOL
"iTs OnLy ThE hEaT oF tHe MoMenT DeCiSiOnS... nOt ToXiC bEhAvIoR 😤"
Crazy how tbagging stirs the pot. It's literally your own teammate, so much character development is involved in communication and knowing your team. Their humor on their own teammate is great.
Doubling down because they're embarrassed that they were wrong, and now they can't go back so they're taking it even further to the point they don't even care about their reputation anymore as long as they can delude themselves into thinking they were in the right. Companies like this with bad/no PR support should be few and far between, but are far more common than I'd like to acknowledge.
They done fucked up bad. Seeing Charlie get even a little bit angry/frustrated is really a rarity.
@@Instabruh.User.. wtf
@@thyfallenking6119 these bots are getting…uh…different
@@thyfallenking6119 they're bots
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Teabagging is literally just a joke and it leads to ironic situations where people who teabag get killed because they're focused on teabagging, there is no need to punish people who do it, they put themselves at risk of losing by doing it
Lmao, I think this happened a few times back when I played Battlefield 4. I think I sniped one guy doing it on the satellite dish map.
Rational teabagging would be to do that after they win the round.
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Im that people 😅 karma plays the game brilliant
Everyone has been there. Teabagging an enemy laughing your ass off then you get blasted in the process. Then said guy comes and 3rd party tea bags you. Probably the best part of gaming for me.
As of this afternoon (7/21/22, 4:30PM EST), they decided to stream their double down statement and pretty much explain themselves and the only way you can chat in the Twitch channel is if they are subbed to the channel to avoid criticism... Honestly weird behavior.
I love how the “victim” that was tbagged was also banned so it really didn’t solve anything lmao
The worst part of this to me is the whole logic of "obviously you should have know that it was just a verbal ban that didn't actually mean anything we were just kidding" like ????? You banned the guy, he explained the situation and you doubled down. Why would he think that this ban isn't set in stone?? He had absolutely every right to think that.
I'm banning you.
(metaphorically)
So true!
@@e.d.5766 “You’re banned!” (In a video game) (metaphorically)
Org is allowed to be "just kidding" but players aren't.
"It was just a prank bro"
I’m convinced the dude who freaked out over the T-bagging was just traumatized from getting t-bagged in COD. He might be a rage gamer
I like how they do this whole “it was for our viewers” claim when the viewers are upset about the stupid ban too. Those who aren’t have never had fun with friends in a game.
Teabagging your own friend and everyone involved having a giggle about it isn’t unsportsmanlike in any way. There is no victim, and if anything seeing the bond between teammates only makes watching it fun. But in degrading that fun aspect, they’ve degraded their own tournament.
@qopoy dnon Smot
Tbagging pros:
"I consent"
"I consent"
Fate legion:
"I don't"
"Isn't there someone you're forgetting?"
Someone out there, would use this analogy : Minors and adults can't consent to each other.
@@HaotoAnimeOnPiano you used this analogy
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@@Foxtrox7616 I'm not defending the argument. I'm pointing out the sanity of Twittards.
The fact that killing another player is less harmful than teabagging infuriates me. That's priorities for someone being soft, and it shows tons of backward logic on this dreadful ban.
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Wtf are all these bots?!
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@Couch Potato UA-cam’s algorithms are trash! And they don’t have enough employees or at least competent employees
Who hurt this man… he must have had a horrible t-bagging experience to go this far.
Just boils down to people in management being incapable of ever admitting guilt, lots of that to go around in many companies and game communities
"This will show everyone else from trying to have fun at our events" - said the event organizers who double down on not having fun.
Ban was stupid but here’s a lil devils advocate: dear golly, how are we gonna have fun without teabagging?
Imagine getting the wrong coffee at a Starbucks and when you complain about it, they close the shop, compare you to a, “sexual assaulter,” and get the whole world involved in the argument? Who TF would ever go there after that? Especially after someone like Charlie rips them apart with basic reason, logic and lol humor?
@@ratenthusiast6763 arbitrarily setting rules means that it is a teabag now then an OK hand sign later.
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Literally the ''no fun allowed'' meme
So let me get this straight. In their eyes tbagging a teammate is unsportsmanlike and Dilly disrespcted, abused, or upset his teammate.
But then they go ahead and ban his teammate too? So who's the victim here? Is there a victim? Would you BAN a victim?
Bans the victim like "why would you let them do this" 💀
@@bouclechocolat it’s some bs school principal type shit 💀
You were being bullied?! DETENTION!
I think they should ban everyone who gets tbagged for being a scrub
@@waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3 I actually almost got a suspension in highschool because I insulted someone's mom, after he was non stop harassing me. I even kinda said it in a joke manner, as I really didn't care at all to be honest. But turns out his mom was dead. So I, somehow, went from being the victim to being the bully, in the eyes of the dumbass teacher and people around. I didn't get the suspension because I actually didn't know about his mom, not like I cared anyways.
Talk shit, get hit, imo.
I really wanna see how far they try to push this to prove they were "right."
People like this never admit to wrongdoing. They'll carry this all the way to the grave ("don't call it a grave, it's the future you chose") and probably try to use it as a victimhood card the whole way.
@@LibraritheWizardOfficial they're like a bully. Kick people when they're down and cry victim the whole time. When they get called out on their BS, they then blame society instead.
I don't know if anyone will remember this but this kind of reminds me of the time where a bunch of people were trying to make a gaming police where if you insult or make fun of anyone they could just call the gaming police and banned you in any game
they also banned someone for getting teabagged technically. doesnt seem like a supportive environment for players who have been “harassed”
It's like if you friend or sibling stole your car as a joke or prank and you laugh about it and yet you still get arrested for "lettting it happen"
DUDE LITERALLY WHAT I WAS THINKING
i guess they're serious about treating teabagging like sexual harrassment, they're even doing the slut shaming part
He was *totally* asking for the tea bagging after all. Encouraging ppl to break the rules deserves a ban /s
What is this, a fucking no tolerance elementary school having a hissy fit because two kids were playing Fortnite?
"Speaking of misinformation and facts, let us dive into them, shall we."
I'm sure that out of everything in this statement, this was the "Close Browser Tab" moment for everyone. Even for those who came in wanting to give it a chance, that has an air of "we know we're right" and it's repulsive.
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The moment someone says "misinformation" nowadays I switch off. It's literally just a buzzword of people who think they know everything but actually know very little.
truly fatherless behavior
The person who wrote this is 100% a Discord or Reddit admin
@@SlenderSmurf Even worse. They're a Fate Legion tournament official.
This reminds me of something that happened in 8th grade
Me and my friends, sitting together at lunch, and one of them gets up to talk to another buddy, I try to get their attention because I had a funny joke, and it doesn't work so instead I tug on their sleeve and tell them the joke. 3 seconds later, some lunch supervisor runs up to me, slaps my hand for some reason and yells at me for "assaulting them", then proceeded to explain what assault was like I was in kindergarten, even though this person knows very well that we are in eighth grade lunch. Both me and my friend (the "victim") tell the supervisor that they are overreacting, and that that's not what actually happened.
You'd think they would stop there, right? They got frustrated, and called the principal which has an unreasonable bias against me. (As in I was being watched for 1 wrong move from week 1) He then brought me, my friend, and the supervisor into a room.
Me and my friend explained why what they are saying is wrong, and they started making up complete bs. "I told them 1000 times to stop but he wouldn't listen! He savagely attacked that child with a spork!" And belive it or not, the principal actually buys it. He believes every single word, even though the VICTIM is saying that what she is saying is not true.
We then had to sit separated for the rest of the school year, and both the principal and supervisor got away with this scot free.
Really?
When the internet treats you like Amber Heard and instead of reflecting on your actions, and thinking perhaps I am the villain here, you double down and create a conspiracy where the world is out to get you, just like Amber Heard.
They are over here saying voice chat is discriminatory to LGBTQ and women and should not be used in competitive play and the world is shitting all over them, rightfully so.
That written diarrhea is more “toxic” than all of the teabagging across all of cyberspace combined.
I think the bot below you took that personally…
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@@BaitPolice thank you, best of luck to you
@@BaitPolice *We have gained control of a command post, enemy Reinforcements are being depleted.*
Teabagging has been revived in full Everyone teabag everyone and everything
**paying a game that literally involves killing other people**
Org: “OH MY GOD YOU TEA BAGGED YOUR TEAM MATE. YOU’VE CROSSED THE LINE”
Nowadays society in a nutshell.
@@vonbl3 - the Jonker
@@vonbl3 -the prankster
These guys clearly never played MW2. We have all have been called everything under the sun for anything some rager didn't approve of and kept rolling or started talking shit back.
This safe space garbage already ruined colleges and now they want to drag it into gaming and create the same soft headed, humorless homunculus that "Like literally just can't right now" with every shift in the wind that drain your energy every day on social media or, if you're unfortunate enough to live in cities where these people are present, in your daily life.
Well, not literally. That would mean killing irl. But yes your point is valid
If he victimized people, even spectators, certainly his teammate would be a victim. Why did they ban him too, then?
Lmao
*How to make sure an entire community shuns you and your tournaments:*
It's times like this that make me appreciate genuine apologies so much more. This dude is grasping at straws. Even his reaction and failed defense on his stream showed how he knew he was wrong from the start. If you're going to avoid apologizing, at least don't straight lie to people about the events. Better yet just take the fucking L.
Bots needa chill, geez
@@wez5935 nah fr tho
I wouldn't even call it an L. Being able to admit when you were wrong about something is a sign of maturity and willingness to grow as an individual.
@@KROGANLovesKittensAndPuppies Taking an L means owning up to your mistake.
@@Instabruh.User.. indoor fucking care how fabricated this is, I can and should bring this to the FBI‘s attention.
It sounds like this event was held by someone who was tbagged once as a dumb kid and was so traumatized by the experience that as an adult go on a crusade against tbagging and other such "toxic behavior". What a hero.
UA-cam should really fix this bot issue
He should be *"AN* hero". Look up the meme, normies.
Lucas, a teenage boy, has decided to commit suicide. During a whirlwind adventure with his two best friends he becomes convinced that he has something to live for.
@@ViIgax lmao
@@ViIgax Imagine thinking you're cool because you referenced a dead 4chan meme older than some of the audience
Honestly, props to that guy for being the first person ever to ban the person who got t-bagged.
I look forward to what other victim blaming his company and tournament broadcast LOL
I like how Charlie said "hill to die on" because in my family whenever it's something stupid and nonsensical that a person is defending we say it's a "ditch to die in" there's no honor in this, they don't look good
gotta love how they excuse the initial ban as a "heat of the moment" decision that didn't hold any weight while simultaniously condemning the people that were banned for having a heat of the moment response to said ban
thats literally how emotional abuse works, and to see a whole ass org pull this is insane
@@jrhooman This is how these type of people think. In politics, in the workplace, in online forums, all the way down to recreational stuff like video game tournaments. This kind of person is what us conservatives refer to when we say “the Far Left.”
Many moderate liberals don’t get that yet so that’s why I’m explaining it. I’m hoping this can be an eye-opener for some.
@@disguisedcentennial835 i don't really understand American politics so can you clarify why emotional abuse has anything to do with being politically left or right?
@@disguisedcentennial835
"us conservatives" lmao
Your definition of "Far Left" is literally anything to the left of you. It's a meaningless strawman.
@@manamana7712
It's just a conservative projecting. Basically trying to argue that their emotional reactions are totally justified whereas anyone else's isn't.
"Oh no people are angry with us because we did something stupid! Hurry gaslight them!"
And you know they know they're in the wrong, because people can't reply to the tweet. People who put out a good statement won't need to prevent further discourse.
To the bot reply above, I hope it’s terminated soon
@@Dgero Don't give it any more attention and report it
@@synexiasaturnds727yearsago7
Oh of course, that’s why I chose to avoid direct replies
They keep calling it a heat of the moment decision so they know they were wrong, they banned him for the backlash they got
All this drama, all this back and forth, all these threats and accusations… All because a player pressed crouch a few times over his teammates body 💀
The worst crime in humanity, “the bag of tea” an art form as old as gaming itself, the art demonized by modern gaming culture. I say nay that’s not bussin fr fr.
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@@-whyquestion You're a kpop fan, your opinion is invalid
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Either way, I salute you soldier 🫡
“We’re banning you for teabagging”
“Ok we won’t ban you for teabagging, but we’re gonna ban you for being an asshole and not letting us get away with our bullshit”
I think they still wanted to ban them and by saying this they seem less insane
Lol
In that teebag he saw every 12 year old who ever roasted him on Xbox live, and his rage could not be contained
The really funny part is his "You can't teabag in any other sports league"
Meanwhile pro baseball players be out here setting each other's shoes on fire. (see hotfooting)
Buddy was euphoric at going for the ban. Look at him. He fucking loved doing that. Narcissism is a hell of a drug.
I dont think narcissism is the word you're looking for
It did seem like he was on a power trip while banning him lol
Yeah this guy is your average reddit mod lmao
@@dimadobrik4516 It can be applied here.
I think I know what happened here. The mod who banned Dilly must have been teabagged a bunch when he was playing games as a kid, and it has absolutely shattered his senses. It now triggers a psychological reaction and the fact that he was able to act out against it in a "justified" manner gave him a sense of euphoria.
The fact that they got banned for teabagging when in the official professional league people were bagging each other is truly sad
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@Kavetion but who asked
God damn the bots
jesus fucking christ theres so much bots
@@BaitPolice o7 soldier, thank you.
Its like a 12 year old writing an essay and changing "because" to "due to the fact" to sound fancy
the TL:DR of that novel of a statement is this:
"We didn't actually ban him. But now that he complained about getting banned, which we didn't actually do, we're banning him for complaining and also actually for the t-bagging."
I was playing Elden Ring and invaded someone as per Varré's questline, the dude had a buddy who jumped me from behind and ended up killing me... They then proceeded to simulate t-bagging me. This made me close the game, eat half a bag of Cheetos and contemplate not playing for another day. I am currently contemplating suing them both, sue From Software and sue my internet provider for making me witness this.
you have been assaulted, i hope those scumbags see expeditious legal action against them for what they've done to your elden ring character
As you should, you've been assaulted and need compensation
Also trying to do the Varre quest, I ran into three guys. They found me, and I just stood there. This one guy attacked me with spells, and I dodged all of them, not once showing aggression (I was mostly just trying to see how much time I could waste). His friends ended up killing me. Then this guy, who did no damage because I dodged everything, comes up and teabags me. That was one of the only ones I was legitimately tilted about because it was so undeserved.
Go you!
Also make sure to sue your tv and console manufacturers as they provided the means to view such horrid imagery
This ban is such an overreaction to making things feel a "safer." When people demand "safer" spaces they are normally just asking for people to not say violent or hateful things (if we're being gaming specifics, examples include dropping the N word, telling female players they'll r*pe them, or having a gamer moment™️ and raging out).
Teabagging isn't assault. If teabagging reminds you of assault then you shouldn't be watching or playing videogames.
Ah yes, in a game where you shoot each other, teabagging is the assault.
@@peakeythebard1454 if teabagging is sexual assault then if another player kills me I should be able to charge them with 1st degree murder
“Teabagging is literally assault”
*proceeds to shoot someone’s head off*
I don't wanna live in a world where I can't teabag.
Based take, ngl
charlie legit said the same thing i said, if the caster didn't care about the tbagging, this would've never happened, it was due to his overreaction to something that simple and instead of just laughing it off, he disqualifies a team for it
17:33 He only hit the bong to double his xp while he's at It
Can't wait for the "we're sorry" statement after every team pulls out of their tournaments and the bad PR collapses in on them.
Full on Tony Haywood “I’m sorrrrrrry” from South Park probably lol
@Kavetion Haha, funny joke.
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If these people can’t handle tea bagging in game, than I cant imagine how they’ll react when they find out that people are actually killing each other in games too.
Just imagine when they find out that people do that in real life too, they would be absolutely broken
then*
@@bronyafan go back to reddit
@Kavetion then prove it
@@michaelstaab2872 I don't even use reddit
Damn Charlie went full on Lawyer mode
The emote argument is a really good point. What if instead of tea bagging he used an emote, an ingame mechanic, even after he killed someone. What is the purpose of emotes anyway? When are we supposed to use them? Would that be more bannable than pressing the control button 3 times?
I mean, ducking is an ingame mechanic.
Also what if you accidentally teabag someone or do it really slowly, would they ban you for that?
@@DerPlaystationZocker probably not, but no gamer should be banned for T-bagging
@@DerPlaystationZocker It has been so long since I've seen someone legitimately use "ducking" in a sentence and I'm not gonna lie, my brain immediately autocorrected it to "fucking". That was great lmfao
Edited* cause I can't type to save my fricken life
@@TriggerBud lmao same!! I had to go back and immediately read it again.
@Conquest 💀that last part I forgot about. People are soft
Wait if they're banning him for "harrassing" someone, doesnt that mean they're also banning the "victim" for being "harrassed" since it was his own team mate?
Yep
Zero tolerance policy is just that dumb
Epic his team mate must be so happy and feeling safe rn
School be like:
this is some elementary school "you can't have umbrellas in the rain because they could poke somebody in the face" stuff
The one point I kinda wanna target is their thing about being new to e-sports tournament organizing: I'm pretty sure they aren't lying there. I've been following these guys for a few years now, from even before they were Fate Legion (they used to be called Figure 8 E-sports and I guess they just condensed it down to "F8 > Fate" somewhere along the way). They always came off as very amateurish, even after the rebrand. I remember back when they were still Figure 8 they posted a clip of a player under their banner getting an "insane 5k in CS!!" but it was against bots and he was using the auto sniper (I went and looked, everything from when they were Figure 8 is gone from their Instagram so I can't corroborate that at all unfortunately). Their whole page was littered with pretty sub-par clips with the occasional cool play -- the reason I followed them in the first place was because of a Rocket League player that seemed to play for them that had some cool clips. After a while I was following them more for these sub-par plays purely for entertainment, and the good stuff became a little rarer.
They always struck me as earnest but new and not particularly good at video games. It's kinda funny seeing them blow up like this when they've been tiny the whole time I've known about them. I don't disagree that this is a gross mishandling of the situation, but they are definitely very new to tournament organizing. I think they just didn't want to get caught in any scandal at all and overreacted, and ended up being way too safe in response. This whole second response is definitely icing on the cake though - but not particularly surprising given what I've seen from these guys in the past.
This just makes me want to host my own tournament where you’re REQUIRED to teabag a killed or downed opponent
That actually sounds kinda fun. You have to start thinking about where the bodies of your opponents are so that you can both teabag them in time and not die while teabagging.
Splitgate sometimes has a mode called teabag confirmed and you also teabag your teammates bodies to deny kills
Do it. Be the safe space.
You have to teabag someone or they revive 😂
Isn't there a game some years ago where the whole point of it is to down the enemy, then teabag them so they will permanently die, but their teammates can stop you and revive them.
“It’s not the fucking T-Virus. It’s just banter”
- another great quote from Charlie
@Kavetion Okay, prove it.
@@noone5454 plot twist: he proves it and this just turns like the other guy playing rush e with the piano
@@yeetusdeletus7039 that would be both horrifying, because that would mean a better charlie, but also impressive, because that would be a better charlie
@Kavetion 🤓🤓🤓🤓
Y'all talking about this Kav insect, and not piling on how "T-Virus" should be a new meme. Smh.
“Completely unprofessional”
Bro hosts video game tournaments, professionalism is completely out of the question
😑 sure
7:40 word your looking for is "over-zealous" I think
This seems almost intentional, making rules so vague that they can twist them to mean anything they want. This is an abomination of a PR statement. I’m going in circles thinking of why they’d do something like this.
Because they're unprofessional
Jannies gonna Janny
@@Instabruh.User.. go to hell
This is, like, some Discord mod-level shit
@@vincent67239 Ngl, I've been in a discord server with the exact same powertripping mod shit of a PROFESSIONAL MOBILE GAME.
Clearly the host who banned them was on the receiving end of numerous teabags.
Clearly. He must have saw red in that moment 🤣
the announcer has teabag ptsd
Streisand effect, they are gonna be mocked with teabag related jokes for some time now
You just know he got nuts on his face in halo and never got over it
The host swimming on balls
An eight paragraph pamphlet that could just be condensed down to "I've been hurt in the past and I am taking it out on you" all for teabagging a teammate
It's funny they say sports professionals wouldn't do this and a week later paddy pimblet tea bags his opponent
"Professional tournament"
Ah yes, because the host ripping a bong live as the tournament is happening is indeed professional.
Maybe it was product placement?
I thought Twitch had rules against ACTUAL drug usage on-stream? Twitch fucks around with their rules so much I'm not sure if this is still true.
@@MrPancake1225ayylmao I feel like Cannabis is and should be a gray area. Like it's a medicine... but the host ain't gotta be out there with it like that. Use another platform for it. Even me as a smoker would never do something as foolish as ripping a bong whilst hosting a tournament in motion. XD This fuckin world is so outta hand sometimes, it's laughable. Yet still inexcusable.
@@extendedclipricco3214 can't disagree with ya there. There's a time and a place for everything. Like I'd never consider doing that while actively hosting a tourney, or I'd at least be a bit more subtle about it.
@@extendedclipricco3214 It's not a medicine if you're SMOKING it. No matter what it is, filling your lungs with SMOKE is NOT HEALTHY.
One of the best things from this is Fate Legion talking about professionalism on stream, but the host literally ripped a bong mid cast. They go on to talk about how people will copy the toxic behaviors like teabagging cause they saw it on stream, well I just saw the host smoke a fatty rip so now I'm a drug addict thanks Fate Legion.
I can't believe they run a business with that level of "professionalism", or the lack of it. It is also mind boggling that instead of hiring a PR for the mess they've caused, they hired a redditor. What a f.u.cking dumpster of an organization.
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