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  • @vladislavezhergin625
    @vladislavezhergin625 2 місяці тому +3

    easy to see that the equation is symmetrical to x=2. let's use substitution t = x-2 . so x=t+2
    (t+2)^4 = (t-2)^2
    t^4+8t^3+24t^2+32t+16 = t^4−8t^3+24t^2−32t+16
    8t^3+32t = -8t^3−32t
    16*t^3+48*t=0
    t*(t^2+4)=0
    t= 0, t = 2i, t =-2i
    x=2, x= 2+2i, x=2-2i

    • @Alain-w8r
      @Alain-w8r 2 місяці тому

      (t+2)⁴-(t-2)⁴=( (t+2)²+(t-2)² )( (t+2)²-(t-2)² ) = ( 2t² + 8 )( 8t )

    • @Alain-w8r
      @Alain-w8r 2 місяці тому

      same symmetrical method for x(x+2)(x+4)(x+6)=9

  • @DjibrilcisseFall
    @DjibrilcisseFall Місяць тому +2

    x⁴ = (x-4)⁴
    (x-0)⁴ = (x-4)⁴
    [(x-4+4)²]² = [(x-4)²]²
    Posons x-4= X
    on a[ (X+4)²] ² = [(X)²]²
    |(X+4)²]| = |[(X)²]|
    (X+4)² = X²
    8X +16=0
    X = -2
    x-4 =-2
    x=2

  • @neilmccoy9390
    @neilmccoy9390 2 місяці тому +1

    The solutions come from the 4 equations "X=(X-4) times A" where A are the 4th roots of 1, i.e. members of the set {1, i, -1, -i}. For A=1 the equation X=X-4 has no solution. The other equations are X=i(X-4), X=(4-X) , AND X=i(4-X). The solutions of these equations are X=2-2i, X=2, and X=2+2i .

  • @Kirkemus
    @Kirkemus 2 місяці тому

    Rule: Sqrt (a^4) = +/- a^2.
    So: sqrt (x^4)=+/-sqrt ((x-4)^4)
    =>x^2=+/- (x-4)^2
    With plus-sign: Quadratic, x=2
    With minus-sign:
    x^2=-(x-4)^2=-(x^2+4^2-8x)=-x^2+16x-16
    =>2x^2-16x+16=0 or so
    Solve for x and get the complex roots as stated.

  • @markharder3676
    @markharder3676 2 місяці тому +2

    Not a more efficient way, but interesting to me: Observe that we are comparing even powers of 2 numbers, one smaller than the other. In this case, that means that x is 1/2 of 4, so that x-4 = -2 and (-2)^4 = 2^4. Therefore x=2 is one solution. Next, bring (x-4)^4 to the lhs and expand the polynomial x^4 - (x-4)^4. Do the subtraction and observe that the 4th power terms cancel, leaving us with a 3rd order polynomial. There are 3 roots and one of them is x=2. What are the remaining factors of the 3rd order poly? Divide it by the (x-2) factor, which leaves an exact quotient, x^2 -4x + 8. Now find its 2 roots with the quadratic formula.

  • @yogesh193001
    @yogesh193001 2 місяці тому +2

    Consider this:
    x^2=+-(x-4)^2
    Case1: x^2=(x-4)^2
    x=+-(x-4)
    x=+(x-4)=>0=-4=>rejected
    x=-(x-4) =>x=2
    Case2:x^2=-(x-4)^2
    x=+-i(x-4)
    x=-4/(1+-i)
    x=-2+-2i

    • @cosmolbfu67
      @cosmolbfu67 2 місяці тому +1

      (x-4)^2 = +- x^2
      (x-4) = +- x , +- xi
      x = 2, 4/(1-i), 4/(1+i)
      x = 2, 2+-2i

    • @yogesh193001
      @yogesh193001 2 місяці тому

      @@cosmolbfu67 love it!

  • @johnpearcey
    @johnpearcey 2 місяці тому +1

    Quickest way by far is to take the square root twice. And don't forget that there are 2 square roots!

  • @AlexMarkin-w6c
    @AlexMarkin-w6c 2 місяці тому

    It looks like a standard exercise from a textbook or a lecture. x^4=(x-4)^4 x^4/(x-4)^4=1 => x=4*e^((i*2*k*pi)/4)/(e^((i*2*k*pi)/4) -1), with k=1,2,3 only. k=/0. x=2, x=2-2i, x=2+2i.

  • @prollysine
    @prollysine 2 місяці тому +1

    -> by faktoring , x^3-6x^2+16x-16=0 , -> (x-2)(x^2-4x+8)=0 , x= 2 , 2+2i , 2-2i , test , 2^4=16 , (x-4)^4=(-2)^4 , (-2)^4=16 , same , OK ,

  • @berndmayer3984
    @berndmayer3984 2 місяці тому

    to took the 4 th. root or high 1/4 is o.k. with the statement : "and x and (x-4) are positive".
    but then you change the set of kandidates.

  • @RealQinnMalloryu4
    @RealQinnMalloryu4 2 місяці тому +1

    128x^4 4^4x^4 2^2^2^2^x^2^2 1^1^1^1^x^1^2 x1^2 (x ➖ 2x+1).

  • @daniel-mircea
    @daniel-mircea 2 місяці тому

    x^2-(x-4)^2= (x-x+4)(x+x-4)=8(x-2), as you have just used this formula. No need to calculate (x-4)^2.

  • @deloliva45
    @deloliva45 2 місяці тому

    question: could be acceptable to consider x=infinite, as the 4th root?. In fact x=0 and x-4=0 are two parallel lines, which have a common point in infinite.

  • @benyseus6325
    @benyseus6325 2 місяці тому +1

    This solution is unnecessary if we only care about real solutions. When you take 4th root you need to remember to add the ± symbol. We look at the + case: x = x - 4. This is an extraneous root and we reject. Now the - case: x = -x + 4. => 2x = 4, x = 2. QED.

    • @moebadderman227
      @moebadderman227 2 місяці тому +1

      # "if we only care about real solutions"
      ...then we are back in the 16th Century.

    • @benyseus6325
      @benyseus6325 2 місяці тому +1

      @@moebadderman227 no because the question is specifically asking for x∈ℝ. It’s a math problem not a problem for real life engineering.

    • @y0ng_y0utube
      @y0ng_y0utube Місяць тому

      imaginary number is also REAL. literally, in many of the technologies you enjoy in your life.

    • @moebadderman227
      @moebadderman227 Місяць тому

      @@y0ng_y0utube
      # "imaginary number is also REAL"
      wat

  • @thunderpokemon2456
    @thunderpokemon2456 2 місяці тому +9

    Same thing there should be 4 roots right ?explain me

    • @pinkipensia4671
      @pinkipensia4671 2 місяці тому +8

      When you open the binomial expansion of (x-4)⁴ you get a term having power 4.
      This term will be cancelled by the x⁴ on the left side of the equality.
      So that's why this equation have 3 roots (including 1 real and 2 complex ).

    • @thunderpokemon2456
      @thunderpokemon2456 2 місяці тому +1

      @@pinkipensia4671 😯 thanks

    • @musicsubicandcebu1774
      @musicsubicandcebu1774 2 місяці тому

      @@pinkipensia4671 Thanks. Would have been nice if he'd explained this.

    • @lunstee
      @lunstee 2 місяці тому +1

      The fourth root is the solution of x=x-4

    • @harrisorourke6926
      @harrisorourke6926 2 місяці тому

      @@lunstee Good guess. Wrong answer.

  • @denzilgounden4044
    @denzilgounden4044 2 місяці тому

    x^2=(x-4)^2
    x^2=x^2-8x+16
    8x=16
    x=2

  • @hbol1652
    @hbol1652 2 місяці тому

    Answer is simply X=2 , btw You missed the negative root when you got 4th root of equation in first part or you wouyhave go lt x=2

  • @yogamulyadi2046
    @yogamulyadi2046 2 місяці тому

    4-x=±x{i;1}
    x=4/{2; 1±i}
    x=2{1 ; 1±i}

  • @sergiykanilo9848
    @sergiykanilo9848 18 годин тому

    x=y+2;
    y^4+4*y^3*2+6*y^2*2^2+4*y*2^3+2^4 = y^4-4*y^3*2+6*y^2*2^2-4*y*2^3+2^4
    y^3*2+y*2^3 =0;
    y*(y^2+2^2)=0
    => y =0, 2i, -2i => x =2, 2+2i, 2-2i

  • @stephencolwill148
    @stephencolwill148 2 місяці тому +3

    A quartic equation with only 3 roots... 🤔
    It wasn't really a quartic equation, it was a cubic equation in disguise.
    Like taking a linear equation and adding a x^2 to both sides doesn't make it a quadratic. It is still linear.

  • @mohameddaoud4885
    @mohameddaoud4885 2 місяці тому

    We are supposed to have 4 roots. What is the forth root?

  • @hafidibrahim134
    @hafidibrahim134 2 місяці тому

    The true solution is in réel number .

  • @TerraBlo
    @TerraBlo 2 місяці тому +5

    ‏‪9:12‬‏ that fly 😂😂

  • @It.s-just-me
    @It.s-just-me 2 місяці тому

    Is it 2 ?

  • @sebastian.9937
    @sebastian.9937 2 місяці тому

    I don't understand why there's no 4 solutions, why just 3.

    • @moebadderman227
      @moebadderman227 2 місяці тому

      After expanding the right side of the equation, then subtract the fourth-order term from each side, we have a third-degree equation with (at most) three solutions.

  • @maximiliansaile3955
    @maximiliansaile3955 2 місяці тому +1

    Is this an actual Olympiad question, because I solved it in 5 minutes😅
    I mean it is still a hard question but shouldn't it be a bit harder?

  • @ochocheabraham3633
    @ochocheabraham3633 2 місяці тому

    Can a polynomial of degree n have n+1 solutions? Is this possible in mathematics ? Really?

  • @chouchfroukh
    @chouchfroukh 2 місяці тому

    Nice

  • @ChavoMysterio
    @ChavoMysterio 2 місяці тому

    x⁴=(x-4)⁴
    (x-4)⁴-x⁴=0
    [(x-4)²]²-(x²)²=0
    [(x-4)²+x²][(x-4)²-x²]=0
    (x-4)²+x²=0
    x²-8x+16+x²=0
    2x²-8x+16=0
    x²-4x+8=0
    x²-4x+4=-4
    (x-2)²=-4
    |x-2|=2i
    x-2=±2i
    x=2±2i ❤❤
    (x-4)²-x²=0
    x²-8x+16-x²=0
    16-8x=0
    -8x=-16
    x=2 ❤

  • @Misha-g3b
    @Misha-g3b 2 місяці тому +1

    2.

  • @carlosclaptrix
    @carlosclaptrix 2 місяці тому

    2

  • @bendunselman
    @bendunselman 2 місяці тому +1

    First for all n > 3

  • @Nguyễn-j9q
    @Nguyễn-j9q 2 місяці тому +2

    3th FIRST!!!

  • @bendunselman
    @bendunselman 2 місяці тому +1

    First third

  • @bendunselman
    @bendunselman 2 місяці тому

    First second

  • @andrew-watts
    @andrew-watts 2 місяці тому +2

    First!!!!!

  • @KaushalKumarRay-ye3ls
    @KaushalKumarRay-ye3ls 2 місяці тому +1

    First 🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇