Another okay-ish cookie isn't that bad for the game environment, although that can only be said for cookies like afoghatto and cherry blossom, who weren't in a rarity made solely for 2 cookies like Oyster was. And to worsen it all Clotted was already under powered in his early days, something that already made the super epic hype fade away a lot, Oyster was their chance at redeeming the super epics, and they lost that chance, at least for now. What I want to say is that her underperforming wouldn't be such a letdown if she wasn't marketed as a special, powerful cookie. I mean, she has the newest rarity, a special banner instead of a normal one, a harder pull rate and was the only cookie released in a very awaited update. With this result, the arena (which is already quite predictable and boring) will probably not see changes, and the same can be said for guild battle, alliance, world exploration and such... No doubt they will buff her though
Sorry for this big rant lol, I, like a lot of players was quite excited for Oyster, such a cool design and a unique skill feature, just to not be useful. Just imagine if the same had happened with Dark Cacao, Frost Queen, or the soon to be realeased Fire spirit and Golden Cheese? Players would feel betrayed like we are feeling now, because *we expect these cookies to be good*
I agree with you completely, especially on the reason why people were excited and looking forward to her. She was the only cookie coming out with no new epic, she is a super-epic, and just portrayed to be a strong cookie especially during the trailer videos. So I can definitely feel why people are disappointed, me included.
@@roge2342 Well, there's always the possibility that a cookie will suck. So many epics are useless and have been so since release, and some epics are preferable to Ancients. You never know what you'll get, which sucks 😞
As a free to play player knowing that a good amount of topping pieces needed to actually get her to her maximum potential idk if i would invest in her first rather than eclair or even cotton i watched your live and saw how despite her at 3 stars she still deals less damage than cotton so unless she gets a buff or even just a balance i would say that for newer players or even those who are in the mid point investing into eclair or even cotton would be better just a though tho….
I would say eclair and cotton are the op cookies that you should definitely invest in first. I'm a f2p player, I three starred story mode from 1-1 until 14-5 with the exception of 13-30 within 4 months. Both of them never left my team, they are in my arena team as well.
Oh really? I just got her so I'm kinda disappointed, as I have both eclair and cotton. Hopefully she gets a buff in the future then I might upgrade her
i kind of had a feeling that devsis would under develop oyster the way they did to clotted cream, which is really disappointing to see it happening again. how is it that epics like wildberry, crunchy chip, cotton, or older ones like twizzly and sorbet shark have decent skills but the super epics so far are underpowered initially twice?? i really hope the next time they release another super epic, they design the skills properly. just like the ancients and legendaries, one would think that super epics are as decent as epics, and more powerful in skills + power. edit: after the latest video of oyster, I'm pretty sold on oyster now due to her positively insane buffs. i still have a gripe with the cooldown aspect, but she's great with the right ways.
it's not underdeveloping, I think it's balancing because if Oyster starts with 4 summons without the CD-based nerf, everyone who has her 5 starred max would be unfair for those who doesn't
@@kachosuffer7 Cookies that were meta breakers were already insane from the getgo and showed their potential, they didn't need to have higher stars to prove a point Unless an op comp comes out revolving around the 2s push she does with kb inmunne guards, not gonna work now, at least till she gets buffed
@@skizzpulse Cotton and eclair are excepcional cases of cookies that are amazing in almost everything and outlasts several metas It's hard for any new cookie to outclass them really, but still dissapointed in how oyster turned out
I like her design, but at this rate, she deserves a buff. Also would be great if they buffed my sweet prince PV, don't let him be overshadowed by epic Cookies ._.
My two cents: I agree that she's not bad, IF you can build her correctly. And that's a HARD 'if'. She's SO TOPPING-DEPENDENT it's crazy - unless you're SUPER lucky and have insanely good swift chocolate toppings and substats, you're gonna have to *choose* between maximum number of soldiers, and having enough DMG resist/attack/crit to actually DO anything with them. It feels like she's asking the player way too much, as opposed to Eclair and Cotton who can perform amazingly well with multiple different topping settings and you don't have to do so much MATH. At this point, they have to buff her. Too many people are complaining. I don't remember the original Clotted getting as much backlash as this is, so yeah. But yeah, she's not a bad cookie, and I feel like people calling her bad are overreacting. .....And I can't be mad about this update cuz of PV's costume ~Long live Affogato
I get the feeling they want to slowly buff up Super Epics rather than nerf them if they come out too strong, so I appreciate that the 2 we've seen so far started out a bit weaker. It's also nice as a F2P player since it gives me time to get her before she's meta lol
They could give her like a 13 or even a 15 sec cooldown, and that would even be better than 17 secs... Cream Puff is a good example, cuz before they buffed her she was useless and then they just put her 15 secs cooldown (17 secs were before) and BOOM, she became a meta cookie for a short time, but a meta cookie after all.
@@daridon2483 no only the cooldown requirement, her purpose is to support not dealing damage (I’m looking at you eclair and cotton). She’s a crit aoe buff and tanks which is already good. Nerf the cooldown requirement and she will be fine.
Honestly to me this update was a huge letdown. It was hyped up *so* much and me and other players I’m sure we’re excitingly waiting for this update. I’m upset that oyster was such a huge letdown, as it seemed she could turn the super epic popularity around. She seemed like she would make the arena and other game modes exciting and finally change the arena team setup around. But since she was a disappointment and there was not a single other cookie that came out today honestly made this update pretty boring, especially when I was originally incredibly excited for it to come out. The costumes were very cool, but honestly that shouldn’t have to make up for this update that was marketed as being incredibly massive and special. Honestly really upset.
This cookie is like Licorice Cookie which is a "Swift Choco Dependent Cookie" (Unless u can have a Lv. 12 Jelly Watch) Also she is a support. Not a Charge/Magic Cookie. She needs a buff, like a little heal, More Damage. and not just adding some CRIT stats. Yep! Oyster is Mediocore
As a tip, instead of trying the combos in arena, I can suggest to ask a friend or someone you may know to make a good used combo then you can free battle against them instead so you may not worry about losing trophies bc i feel your pain when your losing ‘em. idk if this may help you or not :(
Complete disagree. This is a perfect example of how a cookie can be built to be a perfect addition to team synergy rather than being a broken cookie. Her increasing crit % makes crit focused teams stronger, which in turn makes healers stronger too. I used her in one team today and got almost 9 million damage out of my dark cacao who is running apple jelly toppings. It’s a focus that people sadly aren’t seeing yet because of the standard way of building and using cookies. Get oyster to max cd of 25% for before set bonus, with a dr of 30% and a attack of 15% and you’ll easily see her power. I’m not even at that level of toppings yet and the two teams I had her in, I was pleasantly happy.
@@cinnamoncookies_gaming do you realize that 25% cd before set bonus and 30 % dmg resist are basically impossible?? nobodys gonna get unrealistic toppings like that
@@cinnamoncookies_gaming I'm not saying she's bad or that she is useless in any way also I do agree but at the same time she is a Super epic and for that title not just me but everyone had a high expectation.Even normal epics like cotton are able to summon 3 minions but as a super epic and around 18 percent cooldown just to summon 3 minions is a bit too much. plus not everyone can farm cooldown toppings like ftp players or even new players.Again I do agree with you I just think she need a slight buff like less substats or even higher attack but idk
I feel like the amount of starter Soldier is too low (only 1) and 18% CD per soldier is tooo high. Her buffs are definitely helpful, but the drawback is that the soldiers doesn’t last long enough to take advantage of these buffs. She’s also very dependent on CD toppings, that is, unless you want only 3 soldiers which cuts her damage and tanking capabilities. The problem with all CD toppings is her damage resist will be compromised and she’ll die too quickly. She’s very hard to build (you need fully upgraded Clock thingy and high enough Pin Cushion) with little benefit. I mean if you need a summoner why not just use Cotton instead.
I think the best buff they can do is actually increase the starting soldiers into 2 so that maximum soldiers is 5, also reduce CD of her skill where she only has 2 secs window of not having her soldiers. I’m fine with the soldiers not doing too much damage, just need them to be constantly there and be reliable damage soakers. Additionally, I think she shud have a damage sharing effect with her individual soldiers where 5% of damage on her will be distributed to her soldiers INDIVIDUALLY that means she can basically have 25% damage reduct if she has 5 soldiers, in that way, investing CD on her won’t be a total waste.
i think the reason they always underpower super epic cookies its because the gacha law, with the law u can't directly nerf characters (in this case cookies). So the only things they can do for making the game still balanced now is by underpowering it and then buff when neccesary to match the expectation.
trancending old cookies having a little bit of image progression maybe, adding relics in addition to toppings making it more indepth. just few idea that I have in mind.
Whoever at Devsis did the beta testing for the two super epics seemed to be doing a very lackluster job lately. Why are they repeating the same mistake that Clotted Cream's release had? Two updates back to back. This kinda ruined the hype of Super Epic.
Like the way this unit is designed is just bizarre. A Cookie who requires cooldown buffs to meet their full potential, but is not only squishy enough so she doesn't compensate but the summoned units aren't even all that impressive apart from the Crit Dmg buff. No idea what they were thinking here
24.3% is quite literally near impossible for almost anybody. They need to reduce the max cool-down of her skill. 17 seconds is EXTREMELY LONG I think she is very underwhelming currently.
Mkay, here's some view from me. I feel like's going to be buffed in the future just like clotted cream. But the 5-6 million dmg in the trailer was probably quickly realized to be overpowered. She's great but not amazing right now. But it's definitely disappointing.
I feel like Oyster can be REALLY strong in a summoner team ( I use Crunchy - Pumpkin - Oyster - Cotton - Parf and had a ~ 85 % Winrate in border m2 pv server in around 25 or so matches ) but I think that they should change it to where Oyster starts with like 2-3 soldiers but you'll need a lot cd for an extra soldier . Personally the fact that Oyster starts with ONE soldier feels pretty underwhelming which makes having some cd toppings on her a necessity to be usable , overall though I think Oyster is really strong in PVE and can be really good in arena in the right summoner team .
I honestly prefer that they release underpowered cookies and buff them to a good level like they did with clotted. Makes it to where it’s not immediately a must have cookie and we get compensation awards after the rework 😁
Looking at her right now, she looks pretty bad but i think something similar will happen like with clotted cream and she will get buffed and become a useable and good cookie but not required for anything
Same, I was so overhyped and wasted 42k crystals trying to get atleast a *SINGLE* Oyster's cookie soulstone and... I got absolutely nothing. I feel dumb, I was grinding my crystals for weeks and got really nothing, just some Ancient and Legendary soulstones but nothing impressive! Seeing Oyster cookie being *obnoxiously* attached to cooldown percentages feels underwhelming, not gonna lie... :|
i only pulled for oyster cookie because SHES SO CUTE, even though she may not reach the expectations of a “good” super epic, nor a decent one for that matter, she will never leave my team, i love her a lot
I think the reason the Super Epics start out underwhelming is because they're guranteed free cookies (if you do the event) They cant make a free cookie more OP than a gacha cookie (besides Tea Knight but he's very niche and has a specific condition to become OP)
@@skizzpulse Probably because you can't get them completely for free (Barring Frost Queen) without paying. I recall always being a few draws short of getting the Nether Gacha guarantee. Unlike for Super Epics being that you will get them if you are a vigilant F2P player
i was saving a slot for her in my hall of ancient hero’s but after all this i just went ahead me put sorbet in there, if she ever gets a buff in the future and is actually a defining character i will make a place for her but as of now i’d rather give my spots to other better cookies even if they’re phased out of the meta by now
I feel they’re making weaker cookies on release so they don’t have more game breaking cookies and instead buff them later to make them on par with the meta
I really feel as if Oyster is host a worst version on Cotton. Cotton can do more damage in MOST situations and can also heal. Also the cooldown on Cotton is a lot more effective than it is on Oyster. I wouldn't build Oyster unless you don't have cotton.
Can you try oyster with twizzly cookie? I feel like people didn't notice twizzly got indirect buff by the crit dmg landmark and now the release of oyster with her crit buffs with also CRIT build crunchy chip cookie it could be a great team
i dont know if her being underwhelming being intentional or not, but honestly did they not remember how it was when clotted cream were released?? it was underwhelming too and they had to buff him so why doing it again..
Haiya she looks underwhelming as a Super Epic. She was hyped to be the next powerhouse support, and yet she is nowhere near as good as meta supports rn (I was even extremely eager to take her as a staple member of my team, but she is way below my expectation). Hopefully she gets a buff like Clotted Cream Cookie, and a HUGE buff.
I was saving so many star jellies for her but since clotted cream got a buff later in his release, that means oyster probably will as well. Should I still save up my star jellies or just spend them on leveling up my team right now?
I would say right now personally after more testing after the livestream, I found best result with mixed build of almond and chocolate. I wouldn’t say crit is worth sacrificing the extra cd that you would need to summon more than 2 soldiers (assuming you are using a jelly watch) And the answer to question btw is yes and tried full attack too
This was so disappointing, we all were so excited for her release, but it turns out she's very weak and useless, especially being a super epic. The arena has not changed at all, I expected her to be like what the trailer is, but no..Not close at all, ( i guess ) Also, the lack of support powders, i had two. Two pristine powders, embarrassing
I would say she is not completely “useless” but definitely underwhelming considering she is a super-epic. She can show results if used in a team made for her/toppings that is better optimized. However, she is nothing everyone needs to rush for as of now. (But I wish they made her a little bit closer to how the video was)
I think she will be buffed like clotted, because even if she have a nice buff for the team, for a Support that doesn't heal, at least need a good amount of damage, similar to eclair (but not a big amount). I will probably buff her base kit, or the cooldown of the skill, or even the inizial soldier, like starting at least with two, and then maximum 4 but with minor requirements
Hi i want to ask a question, so my team right now for PVE AND PVP is Caramel Arrow Dark Cacao Wildberry Cotton cookie Sorbet shark So i want to ask should i remove sorbet for : -1 star pumpkin pie cookie -2 star crunchy chip cookie Thank you, please give me some recomendation.
I mean considering her kit making her broken would probably need to change how she fundamentally works i don't think she needs to be busted (though that may be my disdain for her I just don't like her it's some personal things) but some extra soldiers and lowered cooldown would help
If I understand The problem isn't that shes bad no no not at all but compared to the trailer she did not deliver The expectation and role she was supposed to fill especially as a super epic, her not meeting these expectations made her feel a bunch of people a bit disappointed she may need a buff like clotted cream and I hope she can enter the meta if said buff comes
I'm a decently og player, but havnt played in a while so is thsi better than Eclaire?? I have Eclaire and can level up but should I just wait for Oyster?
@@HyRoolLegend thanks, also I can't believe you responded, and while I'm here can u rate ny team lol, its PV, Pom, Caramel Arrow, Wildberry and Eclaire, I'm gonna get Dark Cacao but would you recommend anything else??
Tho I’ve not got her I’m feeling a lil bit underwhelming hope they lower the cooldown for the soldiers like I don’t understand that much (Don’t know if they’ll make her heal but it’ll be ok if they change her skill )
Personally I feel some of these new cookies like: tea knight, affogato, crunchy chip, clotted cream, and oyster aren’t “bad” they are just more specific in there build and their team comps. Unlike some previous cookies. But even as A F2Player I hope oyster gets a buff.
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Thanks for the interesting video hrl..
When even hyrool doesn't have enough support skill powders lol
Ya seriously didn’t think that I would not have enough….
😭you joined the squad
Oyster literally got reveled after me completely building cotton, parfait, eclair and pomegrante
I need 2
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i really like her design and would love to get her, but i REALLY hope she gets a buff like clotted cream. feels underwhelming for a super epic :(
She’s 100% gonna have a buff
Another okay-ish cookie isn't that bad for the game environment, although that can only be said for cookies like afoghatto and cherry blossom, who weren't in a rarity made solely for 2 cookies like Oyster was. And to worsen it all Clotted was already under powered in his early days, something that already made the super epic hype fade away a lot, Oyster was their chance at redeeming the super epics, and they lost that chance, at least for now. What I want to say is that her underperforming wouldn't be such a letdown if she wasn't marketed as a special, powerful cookie. I mean, she has the newest rarity, a special banner instead of a normal one, a harder pull rate and was the only cookie released in a very awaited update. With this result, the arena (which is already quite predictable and boring) will probably not see changes, and the same can be said for guild battle, alliance, world exploration and such... No doubt they will buff her though
Sorry for this big rant lol, I, like a lot of players was quite excited for Oyster, such a cool design and a unique skill feature, just to not be useful. Just imagine if the same had happened with Dark Cacao, Frost Queen, or the soon to be realeased Fire spirit and Golden Cheese? Players would feel betrayed like we are feeling now, because *we expect these cookies to be good*
I agree with you completely, especially on the reason why people were excited and looking forward to her. She was the only cookie coming out with no new epic, she is a super-epic, and just portrayed to be a strong cookie especially during the trailer videos. So I can definitely feel why people are disappointed, me included.
@@roge2342 Well, there's always the possibility that a cookie will suck. So many epics are useless and have been so since release, and some epics are preferable to Ancients. You never know what you'll get, which sucks 😞
it hasn't even been 5 hours. you guys have barely tested her so you cant say anything yet
@@kachosuffer7 she is obviously really bad.. there is literally nothing to test
they are probably gonna emergency buff her like with clotted cream but way more so better get ready to invest in her for compensation rewards
honestly i dont think she is going to get buff that is way better than clotted got
not really a buff but more of an adjuztment
No i think a rework is better
I think the amount of cooldown needed for maximum soldiers should be decreased.
As a free to play player knowing that a good amount of topping pieces needed to actually get her to her maximum potential idk if i would invest in her first rather than eclair or even cotton i watched your live and saw how despite her at 3 stars she still deals less damage than cotton so unless she gets a buff or even just a balance i would say that for newer players or even those who are in the mid point investing into eclair or even cotton would be better just a though tho….
my goal is to get all the ancients and legendaries and beating all of the episodes in world exploration without buying anything
I would say eclair and cotton are the op cookies that you should definitely invest in first. I'm a f2p player, I three starred story mode from 1-1 until 14-5 with the exception of 13-30 within 4 months. Both of them never left my team, they are in my arena team as well.
Eclair and Cotton is a must for a every player to maximize first. Since you can use both of them in the arena, PvE, and Guild Battle.
Oh really? I just got her so I'm kinda disappointed, as I have both eclair and cotton. Hopefully she gets a buff in the future then I might upgrade her
Thanks i was excited when i got her now I'm disappointed ☠️
i kind of had a feeling that devsis would under develop oyster the way they did to clotted cream, which is really disappointing to see it happening again. how is it that epics like wildberry, crunchy chip, cotton, or older ones like twizzly and sorbet shark have decent skills but the super epics so far are underpowered initially twice?? i really hope the next time they release another super epic, they design the skills properly. just like the ancients and legendaries, one would think that super epics are as decent as epics, and more powerful in skills + power.
edit: after the latest video of oyster, I'm pretty sold on oyster now due to her positively insane buffs. i still have a gripe with the cooldown aspect, but she's great with the right ways.
it's not underdeveloping, I think it's balancing because if Oyster starts with 4 summons without the CD-based nerf, everyone who has her 5 starred max would be unfair for those who doesn't
You can buff a weak character, but it’s usually more controversial to nerf a strong character because of the people that spent money.
yall havent even gotten her to 1 star. actually wait before judging the character
@@kachosuffer7 Cookies that were meta breakers were already insane from the getgo and showed their potential, they didn't need to have higher stars to prove a point
Unless an op comp comes out revolving around the 2s push she does with kb inmunne guards, not gonna work now, at least till she gets buffed
@@kachosuffer7 stars only increase her stats, it doesn't matter
Its just like Clotted Cream, where we thought its gonna be op and meta but ended up underwhelming q-q
And then it gets buffed and becomes somewhat decent and meta
@@Prototype09 but still somehow doesn’t beat cotton/eclair
@@skizzpulse Cotton and eclair are excepcional cases of cookies that are amazing in almost everything and outlasts several metas
It's hard for any new cookie to outclass them really, but still dissapointed in how oyster turned out
@@skizzpulse They fill two different roles what are you on about
@@skizzpulse but at least he is still strong
this is the first time seeing hyrool not having enough skill powder because i always see him with alot of them 😭
Seriously… 🥲
supports in this game,,, thats it hahahah
@@junedanieltamor9071 this time I don’t have enough coins 🤣 I did just run out of powder tjo
devsis is releasing more supports and now hyrool is broke in support powders-
I like her design, but at this rate, she deserves a buff. Also would be great if they buffed my sweet prince PV, don't let him be overshadowed by epic Cookies ._.
pv cleansing or turning existing shields in to heals would be a good but kinda op buff
@@shemshem8876 hes an ancient, thats fine
@@bones2148 Tell me how an ancient cookie being weaker than epic cookies makes narrative or marketing sense. Think about that for a little while.
Pv need either cc purified or imun of cc
I haven’t even gotten a single soulstone for her and you already got her- dang y’all are fast
Not even just her but 3 stars 💀
@@thepinkpandashowd1587 yeah-
Same-
My two cents: I agree that she's not bad, IF you can build her correctly. And that's a HARD 'if'. She's SO TOPPING-DEPENDENT it's crazy - unless you're SUPER lucky and have insanely good swift chocolate toppings and substats, you're gonna have to *choose* between maximum number of soldiers, and having enough DMG resist/attack/crit to actually DO anything with them. It feels like she's asking the player way too much, as opposed to Eclair and Cotton who can perform amazingly well with multiple different topping settings and you don't have to do so much MATH.
At this point, they have to buff her. Too many people are complaining. I don't remember the original Clotted getting as much backlash as this is, so yeah.
But yeah, she's not a bad cookie, and I feel like people calling her bad are overreacting.
.....And I can't be mad about this update cuz of PV's costume
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I get the feeling they want to slowly buff up Super Epics rather than nerf them if they come out too strong, so I appreciate that the 2 we've seen so far started out a bit weaker. It's also nice as a F2P player since it gives me time to get her before she's meta lol
They should decrease her cooldown by a lot since that's the only thing holding her back
Her atk too
They could give her like a 13 or even a 15 sec cooldown, and that would even be better than 17 secs... Cream Puff is a good example, cuz before they buffed her she was useless and then they just put her 15 secs cooldown (17 secs were before) and BOOM, she became a meta cookie for a short time, but a meta cookie after all.
@@irmacastro7766 Plus don't increase the summon based on the cooldown.
@@irmacastro7766 Yeah man
@@daridon2483 no only the cooldown requirement, her purpose is to support not dealing damage (I’m looking at you eclair and cotton). She’s a crit aoe buff and tanks which is already good. Nerf the cooldown requirement and she will be fine.
I guess she's more as an defender since her summons are time limited.
Honestly to me this update was a huge letdown. It was hyped up *so* much and me and other players I’m sure we’re excitingly waiting for this update. I’m upset that oyster was such a huge letdown, as it seemed she could turn the super epic popularity around. She seemed like she would make the arena and other game modes exciting and finally change the arena team setup around. But since she was a disappointment and there was not a single other cookie that came out today honestly made this update pretty boring, especially when I was originally incredibly excited for it to come out. The costumes were very cool, but honestly that shouldn’t have to make up for this update that was marketed as being incredibly massive and special. Honestly really upset.
This cookie is like Licorice Cookie which is a "Swift Choco Dependent Cookie" (Unless u can have a Lv. 12 Jelly Watch)
Also she is a support. Not a Charge/Magic Cookie.
She needs a buff, like a little heal, More Damage. and not just adding some CRIT stats.
Yep! Oyster is Mediocore
Ur right but she aint bad
kittens' photos during the stream were better than shattered expectations about a new support cookie 🐚
As a tip, instead of trying the combos in arena, I can suggest to ask a friend or someone you may know to make a good used combo then you can free battle against them instead so you may not worry about losing trophies bc i feel your pain when your losing ‘em. idk if this may help you or not :(
She was honestly very underwhelming for being a super epic.She needs a buff like a big one
Complete disagree. This is a perfect example of how a cookie can be built to be a perfect addition to team synergy rather than being a broken cookie.
Her increasing crit % makes crit focused teams stronger, which in turn makes healers stronger too. I used her in one team today and got almost 9 million damage out of my dark cacao who is running apple jelly toppings.
It’s a focus that people sadly aren’t seeing yet because of the standard way of building and using cookies.
Get oyster to max cd of 25% for before set bonus, with a dr of 30% and a attack of 15% and you’ll easily see her power. I’m not even at that level of toppings yet and the two teams I had her in, I was pleasantly happy.
@@cinnamoncookies_gaming do you realize that 25% cd before set bonus and 30 % dmg resist are basically impossible?? nobodys gonna get unrealistic toppings like that
@@cinnamoncookies_gaming well considering the fact that she’s supposed to be better than epics, ppl do expect something way better
@@cinnamoncookies_gaming i think people just wanted her to be built easier and more realistic, as she is already hard to obtain + promote.
@@cinnamoncookies_gaming I'm not saying she's bad or that she is useless in any way also I do agree but at the same time she is a Super epic and for that title not just me but everyone had a high expectation.Even normal epics like cotton are able to summon 3 minions but as a super epic and around 18 percent cooldown just to summon 3 minions is a bit too much.
plus not everyone can farm cooldown toppings like ftp players or even new players.Again I do agree with you I just think she need a slight buff like less substats or even higher attack but idk
I feel like the amount of starter Soldier is too low (only 1) and 18% CD per soldier is tooo high. Her buffs are definitely helpful, but the drawback is that the soldiers doesn’t last long enough to take advantage of these buffs. She’s also very dependent on CD toppings, that is, unless you want only 3 soldiers which cuts her damage and tanking capabilities. The problem with all CD toppings is her damage resist will be compromised and she’ll die too quickly. She’s very hard to build (you need fully upgraded Clock thingy and high enough Pin Cushion) with little benefit. I mean if you need a summoner why not just use Cotton instead.
I think the best buff they can do is actually increase the starting soldiers into 2 so that maximum soldiers is 5, also reduce CD of her skill where she only has 2 secs window of not having her soldiers. I’m fine with the soldiers not doing too much damage, just need them to be constantly there and be reliable damage soakers. Additionally, I think she shud have a damage sharing effect with her individual soldiers where 5% of damage on her will be distributed to her soldiers INDIVIDUALLY that means she can basically have 25% damage reduct if she has 5 soldiers, in that way, investing CD on her won’t be a total waste.
i think the reason they always underpower super epic cookies its because the gacha law, with the law u can't directly nerf characters (in this case cookies). So the only things they can do for making the game still balanced now is by underpowering it and then buff when neccesary to match the expectation.
Oyster Cookie’s misheard skill line:
*There will be no birthdays*
trancending old cookies having a little bit of image progression maybe, adding relics in addition to toppings making it more indepth. just few idea that I have in mind.
6:14 how are they both #3,157?
I sense dark enchantress cookie
Not her getting the Clotted cream treatment-
Whoever at Devsis did the beta testing for the two super epics seemed to be doing a very lackluster job lately. Why are they repeating the same mistake that Clotted Cream's release had? Two updates back to back. This kinda ruined the hype of Super Epic.
Guess cotton cookie has another day to live on my team :)
They're probably going to have to emergency buff her just like they did Clotted Cream Cookie
Like the way this unit is designed is just bizarre. A Cookie who requires cooldown buffs to meet their full potential, but is not only squishy enough so she doesn't compensate but the summoned units aren't even all that impressive apart from the Crit Dmg buff. No idea what they were thinking here
24.3% is quite literally near impossible for almost anybody. They need to reduce the max cool-down of her skill. 17 seconds is EXTREMELY LONG
I think she is very underwhelming currently.
Mkay, here's some view from me. I feel like's going to be buffed in the future just like clotted cream. But the 5-6 million dmg in the trailer was probably quickly realized to be overpowered. She's great but not amazing right now. But it's definitely disappointing.
I feel like Oyster can be REALLY strong in a summoner team ( I use Crunchy - Pumpkin - Oyster - Cotton - Parf and had a ~ 85 % Winrate in border m2 pv server in around 25 or so matches ) but I think that they should change it to where Oyster starts with like 2-3 soldiers but you'll need a lot cd for an extra soldier . Personally the fact that Oyster starts with ONE soldier feels pretty underwhelming which makes having some cd toppings on her a necessity to be usable , overall though I think Oyster is really strong in PVE and can be really good in arena in the right summoner team .
lets just wait for her to get fixed, she's being so weak in the arena rn
She kinda weak not gonna lie
i use summoner team too pumpkin crunchy cotton but i need oyster
In total you need 49.5% for 4 oyster soldiers level 12 watch and toppings 24.5 cool down
I believe its 49.3% making it 24.3% which is at least 0.2% lower for anything missing that extra 0.2%
she definitely needs a buff. I mean she's a super epic. If im not mistaken, super epics are supposed to be a little bit better than epics
She definitely gonna get buffed. She's led the team well. And by the team, I mean, the entire population of cookie run kingdom against CRK.
I honestly prefer that they release underpowered cookies and buff them to a good level like they did with clotted. Makes it to where it’s not immediately a must have cookie and we get compensation awards after the rework 😁
she looks slaying
And old
Looking at her right now, she looks pretty bad but i think something similar will happen like with clotted cream and she will get buffed and become a useable and good cookie but not required for anything
My luck sucks, I literally had 40,000 crystals,I did so many pulls and now I only have 1,000 crystals with no oyster cookie…
Same, I was so overhyped and wasted 42k crystals trying to get atleast a *SINGLE* Oyster's cookie soulstone and... I got absolutely nothing. I feel dumb, I was grinding my crystals for weeks and got really nothing, just some Ancient and Legendary soulstones but nothing impressive! Seeing Oyster cookie being *obnoxiously* attached to cooldown percentages feels underwhelming, not gonna lie... :|
@@nyahjikan same I worked super hard for those crystals and I didnt even get a single ancient or legendary just some soulstones.
Same, wasted 53k crystals and no oyster
i was in the stream when he filmed this- and can i just say-
R.I.P WALLETROOL (istg everyone in chat was screaming at hyrool to not buy it 😭)
Love the new editing style
maybe that oyster cookie needs to buff her as well so she can be prove that she is meta with other crunchy comps as well in arena!
She needs a buff like clotted when he first came out he was not that great but now clotted cream is very good so she might get a buff
i only pulled for oyster cookie because SHES SO CUTE, even though she may not reach the expectations of a “good” super epic, nor a decent one for that matter, she will never leave my team, i love her a lot
I think the reason the Super Epics start out underwhelming is because they're guranteed free cookies (if you do the event)
They cant make a free cookie more OP than a gacha cookie (besides Tea Knight but he's very niche and has a specific condition to become OP)
What about the ancients though? They’re gacha’s are just like the super epics
Hmmm
@@skizzpulse Probably because you can't get them completely for free (Barring Frost Queen) without paying. I recall always being a few draws short of getting the Nether Gacha guarantee. Unlike for Super Epics being that you will get them if you are a vigilant F2P player
@@sermajore1187 Theming, I guess? Eh. I have no insight on what's happening on the inside.
I planned to invest in her
But now i think i wont
I got her in the very first summon I got in the new oyster treasure thingy very op
The summon is Gud but the cookie in it 😶
Came from the live genuinely got a sad face seeing her being so underwhelming
Me too
And yes
i was saving a slot for her in my hall of ancient hero’s but after all this i just went ahead me put sorbet in there, if she ever gets a buff in the future and is actually a defining character i will make a place for her but as of now i’d rather give my spots to other better cookies even if they’re phased out of the meta by now
The problem is that you need like a fully maxed out cooldown toppings. I have 24.5 cooldown without the set bonus and she barely has 4 soldiers
The cool thing is (I’m pretty sure) zap doesn’t actually get rid of the soldiers’ shields
Ya it does not, at least from what I have seen multiple times fighting dark cacao.
If you want to get 4 soldiers, you have to increase the CD topping to 24.3 % or 24.1 %
It is 24.3% but with a maxed out jelly watch. I tried it but its just not worth it being that for most people, you may need to sacrifice dmg resist
I think they should buff oyster cookie, decrease the cooldown, buff the damage, etc.
When i saw Oyster, she was just (in my eyes) a replacement for Snow Sugar or Licorice in summon comp.
Fun fact: the first Oyster Cookie I battled in pvp had all 4 of the soldiers. I only saw her ability after the battle, I am shocked now.
FINALLY! MY ALL SUMMON TEAM IS COMPELETE
I feel they’re making weaker cookies on release so they don’t have more game breaking cookies and instead buff them later to make them on par with the meta
People including myself wouldn't be as mad if she's an epic, but as a super epic, it's very underwhelming tbh
Just got her on my first single pull. I also got clotted cream on my first ten pull. I thought they were guaranteed on the first pull.
I really feel as if Oyster is host a worst version on Cotton. Cotton can do more damage in MOST situations and can also heal. Also the cooldown on Cotton is a lot more effective than it is on Oyster. I wouldn't build Oyster unless you don't have cotton.
Can you try oyster with twizzly cookie? I feel like people didn't notice twizzly got indirect buff by the crit dmg landmark and now the release of oyster with her crit buffs with also CRIT build crunchy chip cookie it could be a great team
Oh yeah! Especially since twizzly's crit rate increases while using her skill
U can use cookies that lower cool down to get a maximum soldiers of 5
i dont know if her being underwhelming being intentional or not, but honestly did they not remember how it was when clotted cream were released?? it was underwhelming too and they had to buff him so why doing it again..
Haiya she looks underwhelming as a Super Epic. She was hyped to be the next powerhouse support, and yet she is nowhere near as good as meta supports rn (I was even extremely eager to take her as a staple member of my team, but she is way below my expectation). Hopefully she gets a buff like Clotted Cream Cookie, and a HUGE buff.
haiiiyaaaaa indeed. thought she's gonna be a game changer. :')
As of now I saw that you need like 24.5% cooldown (possibly a bit lower) to get 4 Soldiers, it's so weird though xd
I was saving so many star jellies for her but since clotted cream got a buff later in his release, that means oyster probably will as well. Should I still save up my star jellies or just spend them on leveling up my team right now?
I would suggest you wait at least a little bit before dumping stuff into her as of now
@@HyRoolLegend alright thank you!
thanks for the review btw 🙏
Hyrool have you tried a crit build?
I would say right now personally after more testing after the livestream, I found best result with mixed build of almond and chocolate. I wouldn’t say crit is worth sacrificing the extra cd that you would need to summon more than 2 soldiers (assuming you are using a jelly watch)
And the answer to question btw is yes and tried full attack too
She is possibly gonna be used like Licorice, only used by the ultimate (starting attack). And she could be recieving a buff in the next update.
I always get different stats from topping vids I watch even tho I added the exact toppings, why is that?
Because of the substats
@@HyRoolLegend so every topping has different stats? (even if they are the same type?)
This was so disappointing, we all were so excited for her release, but it turns out she's very weak and useless, especially being a super epic. The arena has not changed at all, I expected her to be like what the trailer is, but no..Not close at all, ( i guess ) Also, the lack of support powders, i had two. Two pristine powders, embarrassing
I would say she is not completely “useless” but definitely underwhelming considering she is a super-epic. She can show results if used in a team made for her/toppings that is better optimized. However, she is nothing everyone needs to rush for as of now. (But I wish they made her a little bit closer to how the video was)
I think she will be buffed like clotted, because even if she have a nice buff for the team, for a Support that doesn't heal, at least need a good amount of damage, similar to eclair (but not a big amount). I will probably buff her base kit, or the cooldown of the skill, or even the inizial soldier, like starting at least with two, and then maximum 4 but with minor requirements
Yo hyrool I have been using dcc n wildbereywith cotton and sorbet and éclair is this a good team what team do u recommend me to use Mr legend
I am so happy. She came on my first free emblem pull 🤗
First time seeing hyrool doenst have enough skill powders
SHE IS GOOD, BUT SHE'S NOT LIKE COTTON AND ECLAIR.
ALL HAIL THE REAL SUPER EPICS OF CRK, GODTTON, ECLORD, DADDYBERRY, AND CARAMOMMY.
“ECLORD,DADDYBERRY,GODTTON,CARAMOMMY” I’m dying pls- 😂💀
So true, plus oyster probably smells like coochie sweat
true, why did they even add super epics in the first place lol
@@youi_n0me265 the epic quadro
@@insanity2034 i think theyre supposed to be like legendary power but guaranteed (kinda free cookie) in the event?
Hi i want to ask a question, so my team right now for PVE AND PVP is
Caramel Arrow
Dark Cacao
Wildberry
Cotton cookie
Sorbet shark
So i want to ask should i remove sorbet for :
-1 star pumpkin pie cookie
-2 star crunchy chip cookie
Thank you, please give me some recomendation.
So you need a PERFECT cooldown to use all 4 of her summons at once?? That's so disappointing T-T At least shes pretty!
Well atleast it's not another broken one. I hate it when they just let old cookies fade to obscurity by power creeping.
Please do another review on Red Velvet and Werewolf since they got buffed
Will do!
i just want her on my collection haha
Samee
And right now clotted cream is what tier for arena?
Definitely SS for clotted
you need speed to get more soliders
More cooldown. With a max jelly watch you need 11.2% to get third and 29.3 to get the fourth
Actually that game mode where she did 5m damage was different
Was it the battle from Odyssey chapter 2? Is it just a scene within the story? (I haven’t played the second chapter yet so I don’t know)
If she is not that good as of now, does that mean we get free gems if oyster gets buffed?.. (If it is then thats pretty good)
Possible but we will just have to wait and see
I don't think she sucks but she's that type of cookie that only work on a comp which is summoner comp.
But yeah she didn't live up to the hype.
I mean considering her kit making her broken would probably need to change how she fundamentally works i don't think she needs to be busted (though that may be my disdain for her I just don't like her it's some personal things) but some extra soldiers and lowered cooldown would help
Try to do a no tank team with her since her soldiers could tank a lot
Will be sharing that soon!
pls try this speed comp, werewolf, wildberry, caramel, Madeline and mint, the stun from werewolf and wildberry is really good
If I understand The problem isn't that shes bad no no not at all but compared to the trailer she did not deliver The expectation and role she was supposed to fill especially as a super epic, her not meeting these expectations made her feel a bunch of people a bit disappointed
she may need a buff like clotted cream and I hope she can enter the meta if said buff comes
Completely agree with this comment!
First and I love your vids❤
they finally stopped with the supports are godly line!
Do all your paragon cookies in the hall have to be lvl 70 for deciple cookies to be lvl 70?
I'm a decently og player, but havnt played in a while so is thsi better than Eclaire?? I have Eclaire and can level up but should I just wait for Oyster?
Eclair will definitely help out in a lotttt of different gamemodes so invest in him if you need to choose between the two
@@HyRoolLegend thanks, also I can't believe you responded, and while I'm here can u rate ny team lol, its PV, Pom, Caramel Arrow, Wildberry and Eclaire, I'm gonna get Dark Cacao but would you recommend anything else??
Tho I’ve not got her I’m feeling a lil bit underwhelming hope they lower the cooldown for the soldiers like I don’t understand that much
(Don’t know if they’ll make her heal but it’ll be ok if they change her skill )
Personally I feel some of these new cookies like: tea knight, affogato, crunchy chip, clotted cream, and oyster aren’t “bad” they are just more specific in there build and their team comps. Unlike some previous cookies. But even as A F2Player I hope oyster gets a buff.
clotted cream doesn't fit in with the others you listed, he's much stronger
@@magk2524 I guess but I was talking about when he first came out before the buff. But my point still stands for the others.
@@andrewharris1344 before the buff he literally didn't work properly actually
how is it that ur oyster has no toping and is not leved up stronger than mine non leved up
Hey hyrool, you should check out red velvet and werewolf cookie buff!
If she’s to good I might remove Carmel arrow or pumpkin pie but if I remove Carmel I might get more help
i literally got oyster cookie AFTER i got pure vanilla cookie, IN THE SAME DAY