Entrepreneurs should always say that their favoured Dragon is the one which can serve the product best, and not disclose which Dragon they prefer. Let the Dragons bicker and barter between themselves. Negotiate if the Dragons are keen on your product and let them undercut each other or possibly team up. Rich and successful people like the Dragons are very smart, but bear in mind that their success is inextricably bound with their egos, which can be fragile. You are there for their connections and expertise, so stay eloquent, respectful, and most importantly, impartial.
Don’t think it’s an ego thing. They are asking for their money. To say they have a preferred dragon without even knowing what their speciality is just shows to the rest of them then a lack of respect. If you are going to be asking for their money you should at least know what their speciality is…
Common this aren’t even interesting discoveries! Where’s the guy with the poisonous nail polish and the woman who didn’t know she was a subsidiary of a German candy maker? Or tax penalty guy?
I would have invested on the spot cultural influenced snacks are a great niche there are so many people (including students) that are very interested in differenty cultures yet are unable to visit or pay for a good restaurant the second best thing would be authentic snacks. Some of the dragons just dont have any vision left.
I think it’s because of the growth. it’s nice that she made 100k in 3 years but there investing 100k into 17.5% of the business. From what I could get, it means they would need it to be worth 600k to actually pay back in their investment. Of course, I could be terribly wrong but that’s just my guess
These comments are crazy. It was a bad business and would’ve been a terrible investment. Think about the target market, what their preferences are, and why they would even turn to a niche snack among the many others. There’s no business here, it’s a low barrier to entry, and the ‘entrepreneur’ didn’t demonstrate business ability imo
If you’ve watched dragons den for any amount of time, you’ll learn that “letter of intent” is the equivalent of “patent applied for.” It really means next to nothing in securing a deal with the dragons
That’s because they are very rarely genuine letters of intent, they are almost always simple proposals. Genuine LoIs include minimums & indicative penalty & liability clauses. That’s what the Dragons are looking for, an idea of what the eventual contractual terms are likely to be. I suspect that many of the LoIs in the Den were solicited by the Entrepreneurs for their pitch, and thus the buyers could only offer letters of interest.
She has a great idea and seems like a nice person. There are definitely times where the person has a respectable idea, but it's just not worth the investment of someone with the standards of the Dragons.
I swear! It's like people who come on this show don't watch previous episodes. How many times do we have to hear the "Valuation is based on potential growth in the future" "So you're telling me to invest in your business TODAY at next year's value?" Conversation? It's exhausting.
My god, Deborah turned down the chance to invest because her ego was bruised not to be first choice...I mean if selling off your family's business after quite a few years not making any ripples yourself makes you a guru then she's right. Worth to note Blue badge company secured that investment based on their own valuation and seem to be continuing to grow with over 500k/annum sales already., so not sure the flaw they spotted there?? . The Dragon's have some good experience but their arrogance sometimes is overwhelming, despite having missed countless multimillion returns. And Peter's obsession with suits shows what a privileged toff he is, valuing the school you went to over talent.
You forget it’s their money, they can give it to who they want. Why should they give money to someone who’s insulted them? If a charity person on the street was rude to me, I wouldn’t chuck a quid in their bucket. Why should I?
I'm a Brit living in Thailand. What I miss most is/are pies and pasties. In fact, anything you can buy in Iceland for example, does not exist here. I am so so bored of rice.
To date they have 189 episodes. at least 3 pitches per episode for the last 20 years. That is at least 567 pitches but I suspect a bit more for the quicker ones.
@@TheMafio88 they definitely do. One I can think off is the misfuel prevention device. Or the dude with the self filling bath asking for 1 million lmao
The Indian snacks is tough but glad to hear it's doing good. It's like Samosas don't look that good but they are so tasty! We need more international treats!!
Touker always talks the entrepreneur down before making them an offer. Wouldn't want a toxic "you're nothing without me" relationship like that with a business partner haha.
@@Haywood-Jablomieexactly, he is rich because there are others who are not. You don't become rich because you're a good person who takes care of other people
Who's the weak, shallow one? Peter only asked him aout his tattoo, the one the guy had rolled his sleeves up just enough to expose. It was the other guy got 'mardy' about clothing.
Yeah, it often seems like they remember at the last second that they have to say "I'm out". "I think your business has xyz problems due to abc, so I won't be investing. ... oh, uh, so I'm out."
Bruh yall dont gotta be pointing out someone's got dyslexia again when they already mentioned it cuz they remembered something. Like, nobody's sitting here like "HOLY COW, how could a dyslexic person possibly remember something she memorized! What a miracle!"
Yeah, never answer that question and if you do, don't answer truthfully. Answer 'whoever will help my business'. If you answer it, you give power over to the greedy investor so never do that.
It’s true, I have dyslexia too and I’m able to really easily recall lines for acting purposes when learning them. I think dyslexic people have almost photographic type recall
They don’t. I’m dyslexic and also have dyscalculia, so much so I needed actual special education to learn how to read. I do not have photographic anything, nor had any of the kids with similar issues I met.
Why does Touker always do an entire speech about how much he dislikes a product and how much better they'd be with him involved and then make a ludicrous offer. They all have fragile ego's but he loves making people feel low before offering.
It’s the business version of negging haha, he tries to make you feel small and desperate so that you’ll be manipulated into taking whatever he has to offer
She indeed snitch defeat from the jaws of victory. I think Touker messed her a little bit by suggesting Nick but I totally understand why they got trepidatious. You can't suck up to someone to get them on board and then m say 'oh but no'. They were very harsh, unfairly, but I understand it.
I loved Ellen. She has principles and stuck to them! She knows what she has and wasn't going to give away the candy store. The dragons puzzling over how their money didn't talk was priceless!
How disgraceful of Peter to have a go at the last guy saying "have you come here for counselling" when any single mum or widow gets a tonne of sympathy and generally an easier ride in comparison. Didn't even ask what he's been through or challenges he might have faced during the product development
He's talking about marketing and business counseling. Either way he's there to pitch a product. These people aren't gonna invest because of emotional pleas, it's business through and through
The first madame seemed quite competent. clear to the point answ3rs, and a confident inspiring composure to her behavior infront of the dragons. "Howdah secures a tasty deal with Morrisons" // Howdah, a gourmet Indian snack company and social enterprise, has secured a product listing with leading supermarket chain Morrisons. The deal places the innovative Manchester-based start-up’s snack range - comprising Onion Bhajis, Peanut Pakora, Bombay Puri and Bakarawdi Bites - on the shelves of 135 Morrisons stores across the country. //
Not a good idea to tell an investor on a panel "hey you're my second choice". You want all investors feeling wanted, even if there's a clear correlation to one of them.
Frankly all of the dragons should have pulled their offers after her being so rude. Not cool to ask for money and make sure they know who's money she prefers. What an ungrateful brat. Basically saying I don't want your money but I guess if my first choice says no I'll take it.
@@josephferreira4917 his rude comment had nothing to do with business, when people say business is ruthless they are referring to deals, money, investments, and partnerships. Business does not involve digging at someone personally.
What is Touker talking about. He is saying he doesn’t know this market well, yet he bangs on about having these close connections with M&S and all the multiple supermarkets.
@@redblade8160theoretically when they had salt packets there was less salt, McDonald’s in the US used to have salt packets for the fries. They didn’t salt them at the time. Now they’re salted for you and always over salty and disgusting 🤮
The sharks make great sense...you don't own a patton,anyone can copy your snacks ,you have a niche product that cant go into some supermarkets.. And most non Indians can't tell the difference between the quality of your snack.
The world food or international aisle in supermarkets sells already very large and establish brands, they have limited shelves space so they only sells brands that already made itself very popular and recognisable to people who wants to give it a try or those wanting something familiar from their own country. You can't start and grow from there.
The last one, I have a much better tablet stand, came with my lenovo 8 inch tablet, solid and you can also charge via it too. I upgraded to a 10 inch tablet, it fits, charges and is still very stable. Stuck it on my dashboard and use tablet for google maps.
@@KuchiKopi179 I really don't think so. The pitch was in 2016 and that looks like a really nice stand. Myissue is what Peter said that majority of people have covers which have the stand built-in and that's why it won't sell a lot.
It baffles me why they get so offended on valuations when they all know they're gonna rip it to shreds with their offers. I've only even seen a couple of investments actually shake hands on their initial offer. 😅
Peter would not be the best dragon because he's so obsessed with people wearing a suit despite the fact that the other dragons don't wear them. He's sooooo old fashioned.
But if you *know* your target audience appreciates the compliment of you presenting yourself well before them, why would you invite their disrespect by doing the opposite? Indeed, this is old fashioned - many younger folks appear to have *zero* concept of what respect *actually* means.
I am genuinely surprised Nick didnt hand the letter of intent to Deborah. And i am curious at what point she thought saying her preferred dragon was a good idea.
Valuation. Isn't that a subjective number? What difference would it make what someone "thinks" their company is worth, in the near future? If I had a genuine, money-making business, that was appealing to a investor... why would they choose not to invest, based solely upon what I thought it might be worth?
I think the dragons want valuations based on actual evidence or proof, and not based solely on projections. If you are way off on your valuation, that might be a sign that you don't actually have any idea about your business or industry.
'have you come here for investment or counseling?" idk if this dude is trying to be the mark cuban of this version but big yikes lol mark at least has the credentials to be blunt but he's never rude for no reason. so out of place and odd.
Howdah snacks positioned itself in a wrong way. If you are targeting Indian diaspora, it's not conventional supermarkets but the Indian stores. The Indian stores have a lot of choices of both known Indian brands and bespoke offerings. These snacks should be placed in the chips and snacks aisle in supermarkets and a major target market for such snacks are in the pub and bar market. Unfortunately Shaloo did not do enough research before getting into the den. It's good she is doing well right now but once she reaches a certain volume, Haldirams, Bikaji and MTR will swoop in. In the middle East, these brands have forced supermarkets to create an aisle for these products
Not really. They always have to get the best percentage. Don't forget the dragons r the ones giving the money. If it fails it's them that's out of pocket.
blue badge thing is nothing 1000s of sellers make them cheaper. also the people that make the blue badges literally tell you not to put it in these holders due to the sun
Entrepreneurs should always say that their favoured Dragon is the one which can serve the product best, and not disclose which Dragon they prefer. Let the Dragons bicker and barter between themselves. Negotiate if the Dragons are keen on your product and let them undercut each other or possibly team up. Rich and successful people like the Dragons are very smart, but bear in mind that their success is inextricably bound with their egos, which can be fragile. You are there for their connections and expertise, so stay eloquent, respectful, and most importantly, impartial.
got an investment did you....
Sometimes better to fake which is your preferred so they lower equity stakes to beat each other.
This is an amazing advice.
Well Indian sweets taste absolute Crup!
So these people are putting in maybe .25% of their wealth how much time do they expect them to spend on it? 5 minutes a week?
Never tell the dragons your preferred dragon, this will just cause drama
Yup, people who are used to hearing ‘yes’ all the time have very fragile egos.
@@albino5995 I have a fragile ego hearing no all the time 😭
@@bash547 me too my friend….me too 😩
Don’t think it’s an ego thing. They are asking for their money. To say they have a preferred dragon without even knowing what their speciality is just shows to the rest of them then a lack of respect. If you are going to be asking for their money you should at least know what their speciality is…
You may aswell tell the other 4 dragons to F off. Because that's what they're hearing. 🤔🙈
This channel is literally the gift that keeps giving. Nothing but love for this channel!
Common this aren’t even interesting discoveries! Where’s the guy with the poisonous nail polish and the woman who didn’t know she was a subsidiary of a German candy maker? Or tax penalty guy?
vol 2...
@Salty dystopian Writer Exactly! Those were actually interesting discoveries
Agreed, only the first one was even slightly interesting.
Volume 2. Followed by volume 3, featuring "Wait, you've got a 90% shareholder who isn't here?" 🤣
@@Jawanaka calm down…… this is only vol 1 🤯
It is quite strange that Touker was her preferred dragon when he ALWAYS suggests manufacturing in China or elsewhere to massively decrease costs.
yea she would have got rid of those disabled people in a heartbeat , very disingenuous. She only seemed concerned about the percentage.
Touker is a sly tw@t. He’d sell his own mother.
Amazes me how this is considered good business and not common sense
5:25 “Touker finds another problem” Has eaten most of the food on the tray.
THAT’S WHAT IS WAS THERE FOR, TO EAT.
THAT’S WHAT IT WAS THERE FOR. 🙄
In 2018 the net worth of Howdah snacks was £700 and in 2021 its increased to £100k. With a dragons help that could've been 5x more. She's doing well
it's unfortunate they rejected her but it makes sense for the reasons they listed.
she was so sweet, but it is what it is
I would have invested on the spot cultural influenced snacks are a great niche there are so many people (including students) that are very interested in differenty cultures yet are unable to visit or pay for a good restaurant the second best thing would be authentic snacks. Some of the dragons just dont have any vision left.
I think it’s because of the growth. it’s nice that she made 100k in 3 years but there investing 100k into 17.5% of the business. From what I could get, it means they would need it to be worth 600k to actually pay back in their investment. Of course, I could be terribly wrong but that’s just my guess
These comments are crazy. It was a bad business and would’ve been a terrible investment. Think about the target market, what their preferences are, and why they would even turn to a niche snack among the many others. There’s no business here, it’s a low barrier to entry, and the ‘entrepreneur’ didn’t demonstrate business ability imo
2018 £700.
2021 £100k
Are there really people watching this who are so unskilled in business that they don’t see the problem here?
If you’ve watched dragons den for any amount of time, you’ll learn that “letter of intent” is the equivalent of “patent applied for.” It really means next to nothing in securing a deal with the dragons
That’s because they are very rarely genuine letters of intent, they are almost always simple proposals. Genuine LoIs include minimums & indicative penalty & liability clauses. That’s what the Dragons are looking for, an idea of what the eventual contractual terms are likely to be.
I suspect that many of the LoIs in the Den were solicited by the Entrepreneurs for their pitch, and thus the buyers could only offer letters of interest.
Not in the case of the cowboy with the jerky though.
@@b8888whale yes, that one met with Deborah Meaden’s approval.
@12:03 "The business deal she was offering, failed to "CURRY" favor". Wow! That was terrible.
This program is full of puns.
@@xkimxangelx Police Interceptors and the like are the same.
I had a smal chuckle at that.
@@xkimxangelx If that were to happen to a black person, it would be termed racism. Hypocrisy at it's best.
Only if by terrible you mean awesome
The first lady was very impressive. Not a shred of nerves
She has a great idea and seems like a nice person. There are definitely times where the person has a respectable idea, but it's just not worth the investment of someone with the standards of the Dragons.
Yep. Respectful, believes in her product, doesn't lose her cool. I wish her product were more investible, I'd love to see her succeed in her business.
I love how hm the dyslexic lady was the best with numbers that I've seen
I swear! It's like people who come on this show don't watch previous episodes. How many times do we have to hear the
"Valuation is based on potential growth in the future"
"So you're telling me to invest in your business TODAY at next year's value?"
Conversation? It's exhausting.
Anyone would think these are the only investors in the world 🤦🏼♂️
Deborah’s face and behavior after she hears she is not the preferred dragon.
that little comment lost her everything. the moment she said that they both knew they would drop out.
I love the snacks that lady makes and it's nice to see that she did well after the den.
Really what happened!?
@@HeatSeekingMouse She sold a 2 packets at a car boot sale I think
@@alansmith4729 Howdah snacks are widely available in London at least. I buy them all the time they are great.
@@Eddiearch where in london
@@mzaidi256 You can get them online too, pretty sure she has a website
In the first one Deborah is disappointed that Nick got his hands on the shady paperwork first lol
My god, Deborah turned down the chance to invest because her ego was bruised not to be first choice...I mean if selling off your family's business after quite a few years not making any ripples yourself makes you a guru then she's right. Worth to note Blue badge company secured that investment based on their own valuation and seem to be continuing to grow with over 500k/annum sales already., so not sure the flaw they spotted there?? . The Dragon's have some good experience but their arrogance sometimes is overwhelming, despite having missed countless multimillion returns. And Peter's obsession with suits shows what a privileged toff he is, valuing the school you went to over talent.
True
You forget it’s their money, they can give it to who they want. Why should they give money to someone who’s insulted them? If a charity person on the street was rude to me, I wouldn’t chuck a quid in their bucket. Why should I?
It's her money though...she can withhold it for any reason, honestly.
first one was real good ngl. I am one of those people that love to try other world snacks.
Have you come here for investment or councelling? Brutal 😂😂😂
so unnecessary too. like Peter you literally asked, why are you upset that he responded lol
I'm a Brit living in Thailand. What I miss most is/are pies and pasties. In fact, anything you can buy in Iceland for example, does not exist here. I am so so bored of rice.
Random place to write this 😂
@@harrydavey9884 sorry
@@MaroonedInDub
do you bake?
maybe start a bakery in Thailand!
They’ve got Iceland, and Tesco stuff here in the Philippines.
You are probably healthier
God I love Sarah. She’s so pleasant and smart.
3 times Dragon's Den UA-cam channel doesn't upload a new fresh video from hundreds of episodes
THIS ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️
I dont think they have any new left. It could be that all were already published. I hope not.
@@TheMafio88 If you extract every pitch from every episode, there should be 1000 videos I think
To date they have 189 episodes. at least 3 pitches per episode for the last 20 years. That is at least 567 pitches but I suspect a bit more for the quicker ones.
@@TheMafio88 they definitely do. One I can think off is the misfuel prevention device. Or the dude with the self filling bath asking for 1 million lmao
Touker is def the most shady out of these so called “dragons”, dude def has 3 generations of children making his products in basements factories
The Indian snacks is tough but glad to hear it's doing good. It's like Samosas don't look that good but they are so tasty! We need more international treats!!
Samosas look fine?
@@Nocturnalux I said they don't look good.
@@infjmale91 I don’t see it, they look wonderful to me and always have.
@@Nocturnalux Okay, I mean I wasn't knocking them. They are great. It's all good. We are on the same team here.
I wish that they would at least give us the original air dates of these clips that they make so much money off of.
Kevin. I agree. I wind up having to Google each business.
That so few (if any) official channels do that is absolutely annoying
Touker always talks the entrepreneur down before making them an offer. Wouldn't want a toxic "you're nothing without me" relationship like that with a business partner haha.
Yeah but the dude IS rich from that attitude... 🤷🏾
@@Haywood-Jablomie and the others are rich without it 🤙
@@graceyeah3926 🤣 So true.👍
@@Haywood-Jablomieexactly, he is rich because there are others who are not. You don't become rich because you're a good person who takes care of other people
Peter asking the guy whether he needs counselling just after getting mardy because the guy’s not wearing a suit.
What a weak, shallow man.
Peter has had NO education, he's a failed Tennis player.
For real lmao
Who's the weak, shallow one? Peter only asked him aout his tattoo, the one the guy had rolled his sleeves up just enough to expose. It was the other guy got 'mardy' about clothing.
@@team3383I dont think education is entirely important when you have a net worth of over a billion quid lol
@@team3383 He didn't need education or a tennis career in that case to make more money than you could ever dream of.
It's kind of weird when they say "I'm not going to invest and I'm out" because that's basically saying the same thing twice.
Yeah, it often seems like they remember at the last second that they have to say "I'm out". "I think your business has xyz problems due to abc, so I won't be investing. ... oh, uh, so I'm out."
"I'm out" is the show's catchphrase.
Bruh yall dont gotta be pointing out someone's got dyslexia again when they already mentioned it cuz they remembered something. Like, nobody's sitting here like "HOLY COW, how could a dyslexic person possibly remember something she memorized! What a miracle!"
can we have that in English, please?
3 time a dragon has been “unusually quiet.”
Not a good idea to say what dragons you prefer.. Deborah face said it all!
Yeah, never answer that question and if you do, don't answer truthfully. Answer 'whoever will help my business'.
If you answer it, you give power over to the greedy investor so never do that.
Isolates everyone and loses ur bargaining position at the same time. So counter productive
She doesn't pull a face when someone says she's the preferred dragon
@@3znCOLDyeah it very rarely works in favor unless they have a very impressive business already making tons of money
Peter didn’t want to see that lady’s face any extra second “Thank you, BYE”
Rory and the search for Scottish seaweed continues…he’ll find some soon..
I think I have seen every episode now. Although I refuse to watch any episode with a 'reaction room'
It’s true, I have dyslexia too and I’m able to really easily recall lines for acting purposes when learning them. I think dyslexic people have almost photographic type recall
They don’t.
I’m dyslexic and also have dyscalculia, so much so I needed actual special education to learn how to read. I do not have photographic anything, nor had any of the kids with similar issues I met.
I've never forgotten that guy with the tanner thing and giving Duncan one liners
Why does Touker always do an entire speech about how much he dislikes a product and how much better they'd be with him involved and then make a ludicrous offer. They all have fragile ego's but he loves making people feel low before offering.
It’s the business version of negging haha, he tries to make you feel small and desperate so that you’ll be manipulated into taking whatever he has to offer
@@afusa1765 yeah that makes sense, I get why he does it but I don’t like it at all
Touker "i want 50%" Sulieman
She indeed snitch defeat from the jaws of victory.
I think Touker messed her a little bit by suggesting Nick but I totally understand why they got trepidatious. You can't suck up to someone to get them on board and then m say 'oh but no'.
They were very harsh, unfairly, but I understand it.
I love watching with subs on this type of video.
So funny
😂 'Pizza Jones' 😂
I loved Ellen. She has principles and stuck to them! She knows what she has and wasn't going to give away the candy store. The dragons puzzling over how their money didn't talk was priceless!
Failed to ( curry favour) with the dragons. Did he actually just say that 😂😂😂😂. I hope im wrong🤞
He did. I laughed when I heard it too. Couldn't believe the stretch.
Proper dad joke 🤣
How disgraceful of Peter to have a go at the last guy saying "have you come here for counselling" when any single mum or widow gets a tonne of sympathy and generally an easier ride in comparison. Didn't even ask what he's been through or challenges he might have faced during the product development
He meant business counselling not emotional since previously the guy was saying he has no idea how markets work
He's talking about marketing and business counseling. Either way he's there to pitch a product. These people aren't gonna invest because of emotional pleas, it's business through and through
He might be a fap addict
2nd pitch: wow what a shame
Sounds like marketing but Howdah make amazing snackies ;)
I have to agree, I've bought the,m a few times and they are really tasty
The first madame seemed quite competent.
clear to the point answ3rs, and a confident inspiring composure to her behavior infront of the dragons.
"Howdah secures a tasty deal with Morrisons"
// Howdah, a gourmet Indian snack company and social enterprise, has secured a product listing with leading supermarket chain Morrisons.
The deal places the innovative Manchester-based start-up’s snack range - comprising Onion Bhajis, Peanut Pakora, Bombay Puri and Bakarawdi Bites - on the shelves of 135 Morrisons stores across the country. //
Deborah so fragile, she hates being second choice
Not a good idea to tell an investor on a panel "hey you're my second choice". You want all investors feeling wanted, even if there's a clear correlation to one of them.
@@random-nz7dy only deborah seems to get hurt by this though, it's never a problem for anyone else
Frankly all of the dragons should have pulled their offers after her being so rude. Not cool to ask for money and make sure they know who's money she prefers. What an ungrateful brat. Basically saying I don't want your money but I guess if my first choice says no I'll take it.
Not happy for it to be on TV, then dude why are you here? This is a tv show you plank
15 for a plastic tablet stand is insane.
I’ve bought a few and wouldn’t ever pay more than a couple of quid
I like how Deborah was with the snack lady, who apparently is now doing really well.
Really well is an overstatement
Peter seems to think it’s cool or clever to be unkind to people. A trait I pray he has not passed on to his children.
it's why Peter is where he is a Dragon 🐲 called business it's ruthless !!!
@@josephferreira4917 his rude comment had nothing to do with business, when people say business is ruthless they are referring to deals, money, investments, and partnerships. Business does not involve digging at someone personally.
@@berrymerry1141 I only continued watching because of him and Duncan having the occasional outburst. It’s a good for entertainment.
Sometimes being unkind is the best thing you can do for someone
@@roseedge5626 What Rubbish. You can be direct and honest without being cruel or unkind.
The plinth tablet stand is now number 1 in a google search...
What is Touker talking about. He is saying he doesn’t know this market well, yet he bangs on about having these close connections with M&S and all the multiple supermarkets.
@25:23 Her expression was one of: “I think I just forgot to use my travel miles card…” This is YOUR BUSINESS we’re talking about here!!!
Toukah: I've got expertise in a lot of areas.
If by areas, he means the square metreage of his office space? Then yes. :D
Did they want her to stand by her principles or take the money? You literally can't make them happy
To turn this into a viable business, she needs to put the little, blue salt sachet inside every packet, like "Smiths Crisps" used to do.
Wow the days when they would ADD salt to your crisps ,..how times change
@@juliet7703
Adding salt to crisps is a bad idea; they always add too much and the reason why they do it is to keep the salt companies in business.
@@redblade8160 yes thats what i mean in that you would never imagine they did such a thing...good point on keep the big salt companies bisness
@@redblade8160theoretically when they had salt packets there was less salt, McDonald’s in the US used to have salt packets for the fries. They didn’t salt them at the time. Now they’re salted for you and always over salty and disgusting 🤮
Touker should have offered the office space
Have you come here for investment or counselling....? Brutal
The sharks make great sense...you don't own a patton,anyone can copy your snacks ,you have a niche product that cant go into some supermarkets..
And most non Indians can't tell the difference between the quality of your snack.
Howdah is still going strong 🙏🏻
The owner was shot though
The world food or international aisle in supermarkets sells already very large and establish brands, they have limited shelves space so they only sells brands that already made itself very popular and recognisable to people who wants to give it a try or those wanting something familiar from their own country. You can't start and grow from there.
It gets me how people don't listen to people who's doing it and been there if it was good they would give a offer
Touker would sell his own mother. He’s the greediest dragon ever to have been in the den. Can’t stand him.
Poor Ellen. They want her to give a leg and her to join her production team in order to invest.
@ 31:36 I am sure Sarah got it wrong - he said that he doesn’t come up on the first page of Google
blue badge company valuation was crazy at this point business was barely worth anything
They seem to be doing well though, based on a quick look at their website.
Would say its mostly a alien taste to older generation. The younger would try more. These snacks looks great
The Plinth?!?😳 Did this guy hold a contest to see who could come up with the worst name?!?🙄🤦🏼
I would call it
Standifold
When the Food is too expensive that it is not being sold, It is a rippoff and it is that simple>
I bought the the Dalmatian print furry blue badge holder and a giraffe print furry blue badge holder. I absolutely love them!
The last one, I have a much better tablet stand, came with my lenovo 8 inch tablet, solid and you can also charge via it too.
I upgraded to a 10 inch tablet, it fits, charges and is still very stable.
Stuck it on my dashboard and use tablet for google maps.
The pitch was years ago
@@benthompson8256 they had good tablet stands even back then lol
@@KuchiKopi179 I really don't think so. The pitch was in 2016 and that looks like a really nice stand. Myissue is what Peter said that majority of people have covers which have the stand built-in and that's why it won't sell a lot.
Small town mumbai 😂😂😂 it's like biggest town of india..
A small town near Mumbai. Not Mumbai.
Dragens are straight up bullys 😅
It baffles me why they get so offended on valuations when they all know they're gonna rip it to shreds with their offers. I've only even seen a couple of investments actually shake hands on their initial offer. 😅
Peter would not be the best dragon because he's so obsessed with people wearing a suit despite the fact that the other dragons don't wear them. He's sooooo old fashioned.
The only one who doesn't is Steven because he is clearly too cool for a suit.
But if you *know* your target audience appreciates the compliment of you presenting yourself well before them, why would you invite their disrespect by doing the opposite? Indeed, this is old fashioned - many younger folks appear to have *zero* concept of what respect *actually* means.
I am genuinely surprised Nick didnt hand the letter of intent to Deborah. And i am curious at what point she thought saying her preferred dragon was a good idea.
Dragons should encourage made-in-house products, not put that down in favor of horrible working conditions offshore. Very disappointing.
What is it with people "inventing" food and thinking they are going to compete with the big brands 🤣
The food company is doing quite well
You can't believe someone walking off without taking money.?
"She failed to curry favour with the dragons."
Debbie chin melted into her neck lol
12:00 Failed to curry favour 😂☠️
Does that nick ever invest
Touqar is just greedy. Specially the way he put down the brand or value by saying it’s mediocre.
Why wouldn't the Plinth guy reveal his manufacturing cost?
Why do people say they have a preferred person to invest in their business?
I bought a perfect chinese made tablet stand on line for £2.95.
Valuation. Isn't that a subjective number? What difference would it make what someone "thinks" their company is worth, in the near future? If I had a genuine, money-making business, that was appealing to a investor... why would they choose not to invest, based solely upon what I thought it might be worth?
I think the dragons want valuations based on actual evidence or proof, and not based solely on projections. If you are way off on your valuation, that might be a sign that you don't actually have any idea about your business or industry.
@@7Cedira Or that you're lying. Good point. Thanks for chiming in.
Anybody else think nick should be brought back? Best dragon bar Peter
I miss Jenny and Duncan.
Duncan 100%
Cmon Richard Farley OP
'have you come here for investment or counseling?" idk if this dude is trying to be the mark cuban of this version but big yikes lol mark at least has the credentials to be blunt but he's never rude for no reason. so out of place and odd.
Dragons den came first !
If you offer touka a finger hes gonna grab you, your whole family and at least the next 2 generations
Howdah snacks positioned itself in a wrong way. If you are targeting Indian diaspora, it's not conventional supermarkets but the Indian stores. The Indian stores have a lot of choices of both known Indian brands and bespoke offerings. These snacks should be placed in the chips and snacks aisle in supermarkets and a major target market for such snacks are in the pub and bar market.
Unfortunately Shaloo did not do enough research before getting into the den. It's good she is doing well right now but once she reaches a certain volume, Haldirams, Bikaji and MTR will swoop in. In the middle East, these brands have forced supermarkets to create an aisle for these products
She wasn't really targeting Indians
These dragons egos are unreal! Nasty malicious human. It’s business and they make it personal!
Considering the rapid growth, Ellen's valuation was not so far off. Seems to me the dragons were trying to scam her.
Not really. They always have to get the best percentage. Don't forget the dragons r the ones giving the money. If it fails it's them that's out of pocket.
such a shame they have discontinued the Bakawadi
3. Who the **** would want / need one of those?
15.04 "This is our niche" ???
mumbai is not a small town, it is the business hub of India.
near Mumbai not in Mumbai
She said a small town near Mumbai. Not Mumbai.
Small town Near Mumbai...some of you are so Thick,
Some people don't listen properly. Small town near Bombay/Mumbai.
blue badge thing is nothing 1000s of sellers make them cheaper. also the people that make the blue badges literally tell you not to put it in these holders due to the sun