Installing a Temporary Electric Service Pole
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In this video I install temporary electric service in the yard of the house I'll be renovating to sell. This service is just for working on the house. A meter base, breaker box and 4 gang outlet are mounted to a 6X6 post. All the work will be done from this source, once work is complete the temporary pole will have power disconnected and reconnected to the houses new service. The renovation won't happen overnight, so stay tuned for updates over the following months. Thanks for watching.
I've watched many of your videos over the years, and I've come to respect and admire your self reliance. It's a trait that was once very common when most Americans were rural farmers who had to fend for themselves. But this trait is vanishing...I have actually known men who did not know how to use a screwdriver. Please keep setting a great example for the rest of us.
The times they are a-changing. I know middle-aged men who still don't know how to use even the most basic computer functions or plug it in despite it being as difficult as "match the shape to the hole". Household computers have been around 40+ years! A little longer than I've been alive.
@@ironocy496 and yet I'm 24 and I'm watching in horror vendors respond to that failure to plug-in by changing everything to be USB-C.
You live the life I want to live. You possess the skills I wish I had. Always enjoy your videos. Thanks.
Well it's not hard to achieve, just takes a while......I always think what other people are doing looks much harder....up at the crack of dawn, dressed and headed to work all day. I've just patiently dealt with not making a lot of money and slowly built up income sources, including passive, it's just now starting pay off........the main advantage to all this is being in charge of my own time and how i spend it. The biggest way to achieve almost anything is limiting your responsibilities so that you have the time and money to do what you want.
The Homestead Craftsman you need to write another book!
"If the inspector has a problem, I'll have my sledgehammer" #thingsoutofcontext
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Awesome educational video! Straight to the point without a lot of unnecessary slow talk or rambling...admirable!
Recommend installing "In Use Covers" on the receptacles. The kind shown are allowed by code only for temporary clear weather use or under a porch overhang to keep rain off them. Also recommend changing the receptacles to GFCI type. Those two changes will help folks get a pass by the local inspectors.
Also weather-resistant and tamper-resistant rated receptacles are required. I would tend to use a combo breaker and re-use it in the main panel if just using for a temporary.
Your a genius setting that pole! I'm a single female always looking for ways to work smarter not harder and I can do what you just did!
I'm not a licensed electrician but this is seems to be a PASS by inspector job! very clean. good work.
I like you method of using the long 6x6 post. Very efficient. However, there some serious issues with this installation:
1. There is no main disconnect, fuses or main breaker between the meter and the main lugs!
2. I don't know if I missed it, but there is no main bonding jumper installed, which bonds the neutral to ground, and with non-metallic connections between everything, this creates a potential difference between neutral and ground.
Very Helpful, I am a High School Student in the 11th grade and I am Currently in the process of making one with my team. We go to Construction Careers Academy, very cool school. Lots of strand to choose from but i'm in Elec/ Hvac. This is very helpful thank you so much, now I know what to do.
Had the opportunity to attend such a school for 11th/12th grade. Unfortunately, I didn't want to do the interview, so I didn't apply. But I had toured the school several times prior to being able to attend and I think I would have loved to.
Super Helpful! I've been told by electricians in the family this is an easy task but your video made it a much less daunting task to tackle!
I have to do this same project soon. Thanks for such detail instructions. Your cool demeanor in explaining also helps even more.
it's enjoyable watching someone work who knows what they are doing..maybe you should make some videos of you struggling to figure out how to do something so I know there is hope lol
Ha, those clips get deleted!
cheater :P
Omgosh this guy is so efficient and smart ..I bet he can build a house by himself!!
Great video. I know doing all the work to film and edit these videos must at least double your work time, if not more. I really enjoy all of your videos and I am very much looking foreword to everything you put out in relation to this project. Please film as much as possible... thanks again for putting in the time to share with the rest of us
Indeed it does, I've made certain projects that should have taken no more than a week that turn into a month from filming......not including editing. Sometimes it's a bit much, but I'm into cameras/filming/editing as a hobby as well so its not too bad. I've got a good bit of time I've set aside from making and selling tables in effort to focus on making videos, my website and personal projects......and working on this house. So you'll be seeing an increased number of videos than I was able to post in the past. Thank you for watching, it's much appreciated.
Nice Vid. Good Stuff!! As idea: Would be good to include a bit of video on that bonding screw that the inspector wanted you to shove in. Lots of folks get tripped up on when to, and when not to, use that bonding screw... and when to use ground rod, UFER etc. etc. perhaps for when you stick you main panel up?
Nice step by step video on setting up the temp power. Well done Sir.
Thanks
Great video, very clear footage and really in-depth explanatory commenting. Thanks very much HC!!!
Next time I see one of these ugly poles, I'll pay my most homage and respects! Thanks to you for showing so well, how much goes into 1.
You are a man of all trades! I wish I had that knowledge.
Practice and experience
Perfect pacing/instruction/information when u just want to see how to do it well. Thx!
Thanks this really helped me! Im going to be installing my meter base and grounding rods this weekend.
Hey Ooo girl how are you
HC,
Again, I thoroughly enjoyed this video. It actually covers many of the steps I will be tackling in the future. Running electricity to my new shop from the panel in the house or out from the pole (prolly the house). I've been doing much research on the electrical part of the project and just can't tell you how much seeing it preformed, step by step means to me. I'm a show and tell type learner when possible !
Thanks again for your generous & considerate sharing,
Steph_Louisiana
That shouldn't be too bad. I put a 100 amp sub panel in my basement shop off of the main panel upstairs. All my wiring is surface wiring in PVC to metal work boxes. I've been very happy with it. I've got outlets and lights everywhere, much better than working off an extension cord.
You bet. I've been doing that since I moved out here to the country. :) Been working on the yard for 1-1/2 but only recently transported my shop (tools and all) to the new place here. Step by step, slowly & surely getting it all done. It's a slow process but very rewarding as well !!
Thanks for the reply,
Steph_Louisiana
you couldn't just run a piped line underground and throw up a few gfi?
Well done. I'm an electrician. Might wanna hide that copper you left exposed.
It's not quite that bad, it should be ok. Thanks for watching.
It's amazing what you are allowed to do yourself over there. No wonder things are so much cheaper.
Yeah, I know there's big differences throughout the world but it still blows my mind the things people are not "allowed" to do in other countries. Especially something like this.....all your doing is digging a hole, screwing boxes to the pole, cutting wires to length and tightening bolts. Since it has to be inspected by the city before the power company will hook to it you can't really mess up......cause they will tell you to fix it. The basic rule over here is if you own it, you can work on it. What I can't do is do the work for my neighbor for cash......without a license that is. If I had to pay someone to do everything....I would not be able to do any of this. I would define it as part of the American spirit, it's still the wild west in many ways compared to heavily regulated places....granted, rules are different depending on the state, county, city, etc. While that does have a bearing on price of real estate, there's a lot more that goes into price, like the shear volume of houses and the US being so big compared to the United Kingdom...I'm assuming that's where you are.
The Homestead Craftsman
Spot on, nah Oz here - the ultimate nanny state - although it really is about making money.
The argument is, of course, that you might own it now but what about when you sell it?
That's nonsense of course, because you still need to get it inspected.
I am actually qualified to do it but it isn't worth paying for the license if you aren't doing it for a living.
I asked a contractor if he would let me do all the work and just go over it and organise the inspector - but no.
Here once it's inspected you can do anything you want, there's no difference between living in it and selling it, inspected is inspected.
The Homestead Craftsman
Who does the inspection?
nanny state indeed, I'm in OZ too, you need a license to cut a blade of grass out here........okay maybe not but not far off the truth lol
Interesting seeing the house you are working on painted mustard when I 've I always seen it white! Looking forward to seeing you work on this house.
That’s a different house, that is now torn down. You can see it in earlier videos, the one i’m working on is on the other side, always been white.
Thanks for sharing this process! Great work!
Your welcome.
I'm getting over a recent breakup and for some reason this video helped. I don't know sh*t about this stuff, this guy just seemed like a bro
Bro time.
Nice, neat installation. You've come a ways since we last talked about utilities. If you don't already have one, suggest you get a padlock for the breaker panel. Don't want to pay for the neighbors electric welder after hours.
Ha, I'm planning on it but I'm pretty safe on my street regardless. Thanks for watching.
As far as I know, and this could be my local rules vs your local rules:
1: You are not allowed to use the white PVC pipe to connect the load center to the quad box auxiliary outlet you mounted on the pole. Of course, it affects utterly nothing and PROBABLY an inspector would let that go for a less than 1 foot section of "conduit". Point being, you're supposed to use the grey conduit. However, this (white pipe instead of grey pipe) being a "red flag" right in the inspector's face, I would not call this a good idea.
2: More importantly it appears you have two separate circuits running to that quad outlet box. They would never allow that here, never in a million years. And they would see it because they would want the deadfront off the load center for the inspection. You can have the 2-duplex outlets of course and I certainly understand the idea that from that outlet you are probably going to be operating some hefty power tools or maybe even the whole house off long extension cords so the two different circuits are desirable but at least out here (CA) you can only have 1 circuit in 1 box. That makes some sense if not a lot of sense if you think about it. If "A" breaker blows maybe you think the whole dual outlet box is dead and you go poking in there; meanwhile "B" breaker is live. Know what I'm sayin'? Frankly, if you have connected one of your duplex outlets to one leg of the 240-volt main feed and the other outlet to the other leg of the 240-volt feed it's much worse because now you have the full 240-volts inside that one box but that box looks like it is a 120 volt affair since it has 120 volt outlets. Only one circuit is allowed per box. I also think those outlets would have to be GFIs but they ought to be, anyway. Of course, standard outlet #2 can be slaved off of GFI outlet #1 (again, this would mean that only a single circuit is running to that aux outlet box) so you would not need two GFI outlets. THIS WOULD NOT BE A BAD IDEA AT ALL given that most new GFI outlets have an LED "power on" light. Handy.
In MA for a temporary service you are allowed to have 2 circuits going to a single box. I see electricians doing this all the time here for the reasons you've mentioned (hefty power tools connected). Though you would need a 8 ft grounding bar COMPLETELY buried in the ground, we just push it deeper when the service is removed.
Worry much? What are the odds that a neighbor has a welder let alone wants to steal power after hours? Haha.
Thanks for showing the entire process .
Nice job! Now you can use it on the next house when your done with this one. :)
Indeed, money well spent!
Good job on the explanations, and the photography was mighty good too. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you
Though I obviously need to learn some things first; I think by the time we buy our property I will be able to install a temporary power pole. (TY for my next good reason/ 'argument' for a small truck! ;) ) Thank you, you made that look very straight forward, and not to complicated.
It's really not that complicated once it clicks........and yes you need a small truck and a big one! Good luck.
Thanks for the video! I am getting ready to run power for my future house and this is one thing I have been struggling to find info on. I'm confident in running and repairing simple circuits within the house, but I've never ran new service and am not aware of the codes for that portion. Technically, I don't have to build anything to code here, because there are no inspections, but I still want to do it properly. I've talked to a co-worker who is a licensed electrition and I hope to do the majority of it myself so I can learn and just let him supervise and inspect my work.
Good idea, I got started doing electrical having a cousin help me, he still helps me wire up houses but I know how it's all done now. There's no faster way to learn than actual experience. Setting up this pole is just as easy as anything else. Just look up a diagram or watch a few videos like this. That's cool there's no inspections, I imagine some crazy stuff gets built that way, but I would love to have to bother with them.
Good easy to follow video. Thanks for sharing. I’m starting my own new home build and one of my next steps is putting in the temporary pole. I will be using your video as a reference throughout the process. Thanks again and keep sharing knowledge.
Very interesting. Thanks for the segment.
Your welcome
It's amazing. I almost get the whole thing. If you can explain slowly step by step about wiring , I would like to built one for my self. I really need a temporary pole for my animal at my property.
Amazing. You are such a hard and skilled workers. Love watching your projects. Keep up the good work.
Thanks
Cut that other limb over the house, I learned the hard way, had a limb go through the roof, I am now cutting down all the trees around buildings. Expensive lesson learned
I plan on it but the day I was cutting the first branch I did not have electricity yet and my pole saw is electric. I need to nibble on this branch to avoid it hitting the aluminum siding.
Any Amish in your town? . But, I know where you are coming from, maybe put a rope around the limb to be cut, to another limb, so when it is cut it won't drop on the house? I had one tree no one would touch for any amount of money, it was near the electrical wires and other obstacles. Happens, I had a Amish man ask me about my apple trees, he wanted the apples, so I bartered with him to get that tree down. Happens he ran a sawmill where he came from, so had the knowledge. end of story, the tree was cut, I got firewood, he got apples and a few dollars more as he took care of the brush, also.
I don't mind doing it, just could not do it that day. Now that power is present, I'll do it with a pole saw starting at the top, cutting off just a little at a time. It was just to risky to do it the way I did the first branch.
Don't forget to record that operation! We have had high winds, and I'm watching the deadwood trees coming down, this week. Gust up to 50 mph
In 1984 we were living on a temporary power pole in our construction site, when some bulbs got brighter and some got dimmer. The 3 wires from the transformer on the street pole are 110VAC, 110VAC and center tap. A limb of a tree in the storm had rubbed though the center tap wire to the temp power pole and it was disconnected. Our loads were not perfectly balanced.
Wow what a great video, thanks
Great Job...and anticipation on the ground rod depth adjustment.
Thanks
Great well illustrated and explained video. Now I'm an expert. thanks!
Thanks. I need to do this for a project this year.
Good luck
Well, according to my wife, maybe I don't. She set me strait on my new plans for the year.
Impressive work
Thank you very much for your video a very nutritious teaching
I hope to pass the inspection
That’s a video that will come in handy real soon
Nice work as always. I love a clean and tidy panel box. In fact they should make a clear panel cover so that one could admire the work put into keeping the wires pressed back and in order. Lol. I enjoy electrical work, anyway good video as always
Ha, that would be funny. I also like electrical. I like any trade when it's new work.....running new wires, new plumbing, etc. Basically I like installing not servicing.......for example, working on old plumbing, not fun........but love doing new work. Thank you.
Anthony Ramsey I've even considered the idea of clear cover plates for switches to showcase antique ones as a conversation piece.
I think of service&repair work is the second tier of skill mastery, making old good again (unless it is too far gone or out-of-date to be viable).
Awesome series. Really enjoying it and am learning a lot. Keep up the good work.
Cool, glad you liked it.
Great work” made it look simple and easy…
Excellent video. I learned a ton. Way to go.
Thanks John
Helpful video bud. I am going to be doing this soon. Because a bad wind storm up here in washington state brought down a tree across the powerline. Hope it works.
Should have put gravel in the hole first for the pole to set on and then back filled with gravel compacted in six inch lifts or foam like the utility poles.
The pole is still there and looks the same. it’s just a temp pole.
Bro there is no way I'm going to do this just wanted to make sure before I hire a pro I'm not wasting money 💰 😂 God bless you though
Another good video, I did notice by the end the missing green bonding screw and the ground rod not being in the ground all the way which the inspector had you fix to pass. In my area we generally use a 4x4 pole, I can't imagine using a 6x6 holy crap lol. We also are required to run pvc from the top of the meter to a weather head at the top of the pole. Only other issue i'm surprised the inspector didn't catch is the use of NM cable for the temp plugs as NM is not allowed to be installed in wet locations and anything outside a house is considered a wet location via the NEC. But, it is just a temporary and will work just fine.I couldn't tell if the outlet box was grounded from the grounds of the nm cable, if a hot comes out of the gfci and were to touch the metal box with out a grounding path, touching the box energized makes for a bad hair day... :-) Thumbs up on the use of noalox on the aluminium feeders! I'm currently installing a 200 amp meter main on my house and a 200 amp panel inside over 10' from the meter main. Being an electrician for 20 years has it's advantages for doing stuff at cost on your own home. Keep up the good work and keep the videos coming!! Have a great weekend.
Yeah, temp poles are a little more relaxed since it's well, temporary and out in the middle of the yard. I could have used a 4x4 but since it's crossing the street I had to have it kind of high. I was going to use conduit and a weather head, I actually bought it all but had the SE cable from another job so I saved a little money. Yes, the out let box was also grounded.....twice, in case one came loose, I also made sure all the lines where tight. In my house I live in I also did a service upgrade and completely ripped out everything, new wire, work boxes, etc. It had 60 amps, went to 200. My panel has about a 25 foot run from meter base with a disconnect. I also did a 100 amp sub panel in the basement for my shop. I love doing electric, only thing I wouldn't do is work the big stuff hot, that's whats nice about having a disconnect I think I would install one even if the panel was in range of the meter to not have one. I had a main breaker go bad in another house and instead of repairing it I just had the power disconnected it and upgraded that house as well, just finished it up.......so this is the third house I will wire and looking forward to it, except cost......even if it is MUCH cheaper than paying an electrician.
Good video... thanks for posting. In Canada you would get flagged by the inspector for the missing service box and main breaker/disconnect, neutral is not bonded to ground unless the bonding screw is installed in the distribution box (looks like it's missing), grounding conductor should be terminated on neutral in the missing service box or else in the meter base, distribution panel is not bonded, non-metallic sheated dry cable on line side of meter base cannot be used in a wet location and exposed to UV, male pvc should not be treaded into female metal hub due to thermal expansion coefficient, most jurisdiction require three legs on a temp service, ground rod should be all the way in
Nice job man thanks for sharing your knowledge
Exceptionally well done
I wanted to do something similar in South Africa but there are municipal restrictions when ch mean I have to use government contractors who want to charge in excess of $5800 (converted) for a job that has material costs of $500. Makes me rather envious of the freedom folks in the USA have. A lot of my friends have immigrated and they are constantly tell me it's paradise. Anyway, love your channel!
+Stomp It is a paradise.....something many people here dont realize.
+The Homestead Craftsman So few people appreciate what they have... especially if they have no comparison. But every country has its advantages.
Be well!
Great video! Thank you for posting that, it really helped me on mine.
Great video, seems like you know your stuff. But looks clean , neat , and professional
Nice work
Thank you!
Really enjoying these videos. Keep up the good work.
Awesome video!!
Always enjoy your videos! Can't wait for the next one.
Thank you, I've got a bunch coming out, about 10 filmed, editing them all now.
Thank you 😊
Great and helpful video, thanks for sharing it. Nice and neat job, good luck and best wishes on your remodeling project!... Steve
Thanks. That was helpful.
Nice video pal!!
Good job
Dude you rock thanks for the tips and education!!!
This being you main and not a sub panel the neutrals and grounds can be together you don't need to separate them
Great video
Good job nice &neat
What a phenomenal video!! I need to get this done, thank you!
Romex inside conduit in this circumstance is a code violation if I recall. Romex can be ran in a conduit, but only in a dry location such as inside or a crawlspace. Outside you would need to use UF cable or THWN wire.
Great video, well put together, nice.
What is allowed, etc is up to the different municipality local codes for temp power poles. However, even though temp power, best no to use the white PVC should still use the grey for outdoor electrical, better UV resistance, and some local code may no allow even temp power. Two things I really liked, was using the GFCI, which again may be required but would do anyway, and really glad to see using the proper ground rod clamp. Also I prefer to run conduit up the pole with a proper weather head, leaving extra cable, for the many times removing and using elsewhere each time cutting and spicing to the power service cable, being outdoors all the time while in use I do not like the sealing connectors used here. but then again for temp power still will get the job done. One thin I always have on my temp pole other than plenty of standard (GFCI) outlets, is one 240V outlet. I have a 240 50A in case need but also I have long 240 cable with twist lock connectors I run when at a distance and use a breakout box at the end with another twist lock and duplext recp's, each with their own breaker in the breakout box, for those large jobs.
Very good job sir
Absolutely helpful, man. Thank you very much
Impressive...keep up the good work.
Thanks, will do.
Awesome. I have some undeveloped land I want to do this with.
You are fortunate that the electric company where you live will allow you to do all that. Where I live, the electric company insists on doing everything to the meter. They charge big time for their "services".
Are you in the US?
No, southern Ontario.
peggyt1243 it is the same in Australia 20 to $30,000.00 is what it costs here. There is no way they would ever allow a home owner to build this.
So you basically get punished for doing something productive, that's a good way to go about it. I didn't spend that much on the house I live in to buy and renovate the entire house......including all the upgraded electric.
I hope you will video every step of the renovation, if it needs renovation that is. Thanks.
Hard to find square D breakers these days. Good job
NICELY DONE AND THANK YOU
Nice work!
Thanks
nice work but has to be THHN inspector will fail once he sees the NM-B
+Frank J passed. They dont look too hard at temp poles
What's that mean
Very Nice work.
Thanks
Well produced video
This is your electrical expert here my name is tony
Nice work but four things need to be corrected. The NM cable need to be in conduit. Ground and neutral needs to be bonded in the panel. White pvc pipe need to be grey, or has to be painted. 2 x 8’ grounding bars need to be 6’ minimum distance. Some inspectors will ignore the above four things as it’s just a temporary panel but some won’t.
Smart fella
How temporary is temporary 😂 Just out of curiosity what state is this (forgive me if you mention it within the video, I kind of fast forwarded intermittently)? Did you pull an open permit? Quality work though. Thanks for the video. 👍
Great work! 2 questions for you..Shouldn't the ground and neutral be bonded since it is a main panel? And why a 6x6 and not 4x4? Worth the extra money?
Great Video sir, I enjoyed it very much. My electric company just put in my service. The last pole is about 80 feet from the house I'm building. They have the 'empty' meter base on the pole and they are telling me that I just need to get a quick disconnect or a box like you did and then a GFCI after that. What brand and what model number breaker box did you use?
What did you use for the main breaker/switch box? There are so many products out there I am curious what specs are appropriate
Thanks for posting!! Nice work, your very thorough. I was waiting for you to tie it into the power lines. Any idea wbere i can get see a video or information about tying into the the power lines in the street?
Thanks!
The electric company will do that part for you. You're usually not allowed to tap into the street lines yourself.
sir i need all the materials yu used, stareting from 3:40 , the one that is connected to the meter base and the one you put a white tape
Good job.
Thanks John
What is the G or those orange-reddish wires that are commonly used for these poles? I believe each line of the cable is comprised of several shielded thinner wires, all kept together in the final reddish shield, so please correct me if wrong what is the general code for wire size?