What most trailer manufacturers do not tell you is that the 83" width on the spec sheet is not overall but inside the fenders. That is very important when you're trying to figure out if the equipment you are hauling will fit inside the railing of the trailer!! This is a very informative video and it might save you a lot of grief from getting the wrong trailer! I know it helped me! Thanks!
Man that’s a proper trailer salesman. The place I bought mine from they acted like they could hardly be bothered to give me any attention. Even when I was like, ok here’s the trailer I want to buy, they didn’t ask anything about what I was going to do with it or anything.
My son bought a buggy hauler... I was thoroughly impressed with the craftsmanship and quality of materials. Not to mention, it was powder coated instead of being just painted.
Don’t want or need a trailer! I watched it because it’s better than TV! Lol. That being said, what a great presentation! Informative, easy to understand, just great! Mr. Rick could sell water in a flood zone!
Guy has game👍Best review I have ever watched and if I lived near you would have bought one just from the care taken to make sure customer is pleased❤️Just listening to his presentation let’s you know they have it together
I have a 2014 20 foot with 7k axles, brakes on all 4 wheels, manual hydraulic tilt. A powered one is fine but actually slow. I can bring a loader or mini excavator up to it, push it down, drive on to the point in tilts back to lock position. Power down is just wrong. The 4" cross members on mine are on 14" centers so the floor will handle about anything you can safely put on it. Yes it weighs a little more but not that much. I put 14 ply tires on it after the originals starting getting scary looking. Stand up ramps are noisy, cut your mileage always, hard to move with age. Stowable ramps are a back ache and prone to noise making. For a bit more money, get a tilt, at least 5k axles, and always brakes all around. See if Powder coating is available over any paint process. Way more durable.
I look for welds across the flange of the beams in flexing areas. Many small trailer manufacturers make the mistake of welding in the wrong places. When you work these small trailers every day, all day long, they'll have cracking problems. For recreational periodic uses, they're typically fine.
Two things forgot to mention... 1- the extra 2 feet of trailer means 500lb less cargo because the trailer weight is increased by that weight and the gross stays the same. 2- the low dovetail scrapes the ground on a quick incline like into a driveway or even some roads. Nonetheless, I went with the extra two feet and the dovetail 😁
I ordered the 20ft with the 2ft dovetail. Started regretting not going for the extra 2ft but if it's adding more weight and scrapes the ground, then I think I'm good. I will be hauling low cars so I'm not sure tbh.
@@MrSharkBait561 Just looked up the specs. Capacity difference between a 16' to a 22' is only 330 lbs (55/ft). The longer dovetail isn't lower. It's just more gradual. Yes, it's a little further back from the axles making it rub a little easier but it's very minimal. I'd without hesitation get the 22' instead of the 20' for an extra $75.
Wow, this guy. Nice and knowledgeable and there to explain what you may like and to give you the options for you to make a choice. Id pass 6 trailer dealers to get to this 1...impeccable
Great video, but would like to know more about the various types of trailer jacks, and axels. I bought a Hudson trailer with mobile home axels. I later found out the mobile home axels are inferior. The trailer salesman didn’t educate me on this shortcoming.
I love this video. The supper buggy hauler is my choice for my needs. Im just not ready for a trailer but when I'm ready to pull the trigger it's the one. Thanks for posting
THAT steel deck at the very end of the trailer is slicker than SNOT , when Dry , and really slick when wet ! PJ should have welded 1 inch square tubing every six inches across the steel deck for traction !
You do a excellent job on describing options on the trailers you sale. I wish you were closer to Kings Mountain N.C. Great video I appreciate it so much.
I recently bought a brand new 20 ft dovetail trailer it really looks good but after using it a while it's not what I expected for the money the break have never worked right they slow the truck down but even in Grass you can't adjust them to where they'll lock the tires at I think the brake drums are so out of round they just occasionally will catch one of the fenders has already broke loose from where it was welded together I think that happened when the guy delivering it pulled in the driveway I heard a loud popping noise and it seemed like it was coming from the fender the hitch on front of trailer is not adjustable it's too big for the 2-inch ball not big enough for 2 and 5/16 so it just flops up and down on empty trailer. I bought it in Alabama so that's too far for me to carry it back I just want to hope it holds together the only good thing I can say about it is the trailer is set up so you can use your tailgate down
Great video. I’m looking to purchase a one car hauler, equipment hauler tight trailer and this was extremely helpful. I don’t know if I can afford a PJ or a diamond see but I will be looking at them.❤
If I lived anywhere near Illinois, I would go see Mr. Rick and come home with a proper trailer for my needs! But thanks Mr. Rick, I will look for a 22’!
Some things Ive learned over many years, you will never buy a shed that"s too big, and never buy a trailer that is too long. A tractor with bucket in front and bush hog on the back will fill it up. an old Cadillac with the eng/trans in front, will fill the 222ft trailer. If it's used, there will be times when you will wish you would have gotten the 25ft trailer.
How much is the trailer with the side walls, the side ramp entry, the generator tool box on the front? How long is it? I’m looking for something to haul a car, a mobility scooter, a generator, a flat ocean kayak and a supboard. Easy ramps with no fuss no frustration, no perfect aim 😉
I will go out of my way to avoid PJ trailers. I have been somewhat disappointed in the quality of mine. I have a few friends that will never buy them again either. The axles are fine. Everything else is the problem. The biggest deal breaker is the powdercoating job and low quality steel It was awful. It rusted out so fast it wasn't funny. I have had about 25 trailers in my life including building a few and custom ordering one. I have bought cheaper enamel painted ones that got less care and lasted longer. A real shame. Because I live in the rust belt. The dealership for PJ is near by and has an awesome service and a good supply of parts for all makes so that is nice.
@@ifyoutip I agree, I have yet to see a quality made trailer. My buddy has a PJ 40ft triaxle gooseneck. I was underneath, and just going around with a fine tooth comb, so many cut corners. Wiring is always garbage, hand cut cutouts with slag still on them, stuff that is (should be) CNC cut and bent still hammered into place. I've been a welder for a decade now, so I do speak from experience, not just throwing a company under the bus. I want quality through and through.
My tires that came on my 2020 7×16 gooseneck dump trailer tires came apart 2 of them, 1 on each side and torn up the fenders with less then 500 miles on it.
What always strikes mewith the American trailers is just how far back the axles are mounted - while this would make sense with a 'fifth wheel' setup, it puts a LOT of tongue load on the tow bar. In Some countries, like down here, there are relatively low tongue weights than can be used, largely because of the affect it has on the dynamic loading of the tow vehicle and the tow vehicle specified loadings.
WWhat I find weird is the most there trailers are C channel where we use box and there axles are underrated I’ve seen so many UA-cam videos with bent trailer axles hat I find weird is the most of there trailers are C channel where we use box and there axles appear to be underrated I’ve seen so many UA-cam videos with bent trailer axles
@@hamscanner I'm not sure which side of the Atlantic(?) you're on, but on the American side they 'seem' to have a lot of problems with wheel bearings - but that may be due to the higher loadings, much higher speeds, and greater distances they subject them to? And, of course, they may be statistically very rare and it's just because of the trailer-miles that make them seem more common.
When some many American truck have 1000 to 3000lbs tonge weight. 1/2 truck to 1 ton truck.(1 ton dual rear wheel truck are towing 36k lbs trailers now) Tongue weight is not as big of a problem with our larger trucks.
If you look at the purpose of these trailers, they are equipment haulers... the heavy equipment is centered or just forward of the axles for the best load and tongue weight distribution. A good demonstration of this is a box trailer construction. Barn doors indicate a more centered load and a forward axle and a ramp door is a more rearward axle.
Are OrangeLine SU-35 utilty trailers any good? Buying a Kubota Zero-Turn mower and OrangeLine are in cahoots with Kubota and can be included in the zero percent Kubota financing. Good video!
I have a 20 ft tilt deck, way better than a ramp trailer in opinion dont have to worry about being lined up and easy to load the race cars or anything else actually
Make side rails in shorter sections as an option . Raise tail lamp assembly 18” to eye level of the average vehicle following the trailer . Install transport chain spools between pockets . Install car haul hinged tie-downs assembly to floor ( pooch plates ) Black paint is the worst color for nighttime visibility of a trailer .
So for practical use, I like thebone with the solid sides at 20 feet. But I'd love to have the one that wide enough for a half ton to sit on. I wonder if the other are wide enough for a modern f150 to sit on without any rubbing.
Does the length include the dovetail? I'm confused with a different lengths dovetails what 20 ft is? So is the would 20 ft plus the different lengths dovetails or is it all together included in the length?
@@Toolsinaction hey i have a 117 acres country home land ranch farm style home and I'm thinking of getting a new blower and trimmer which best sthil or husqvarna or echo not john deere because new john is not good
Geez, I went trailer shopping yesterday, they basically told me to just walk around and look. Price and size was on the tags. Not one ounce of help. Sure wish this place was near me!
Thanks Patrick!! Rick has been here 20 years and is one of the industry’s best. He goes above and beyond to ensure the customer gets exactly what he needs based on expected application. And with so many options out there, he does a great job explaining the pros and cons based on how it’ll be used. Thanks again!!
Nice trailer I wish that they would have keep going straight with the side braces up by the front d rings instead of curving them in. Could have been a extra spot for heavy duty ratchet straps that don't have the normal hooks. That type won't fit in D rings.
You’re definitely right that D rings are not made for hooking to that type of strap. You should be able to hook those straps to the stake pockets and/or rub rails.
What most trailer manufacturers do not tell you is that the 83" width on the spec sheet is not overall but inside the fenders.
That is very important when you're trying to figure out if the equipment you are hauling will fit inside the railing of the trailer!!
This is a very informative video and it might save you a lot of grief from getting the wrong trailer!
I know it helped me! Thanks!
“We dont sell things here, we educate people and help them make a good choice” 👍
Well if they sold that toolbox on the front, I'd buy it 😎
Providing extreme value 🔥
Love this! I sold cats this way too!!!
Man that’s a proper trailer salesman. The place I bought mine from they acted like they could hardly be bothered to give me any attention. Even when I was like, ok here’s the trailer I want to buy, they didn’t ask anything about what I was going to do with it or anything.
lol, i walk straight out of those places. wish more folks were like this guy!
I don’t even need a trailer… what a great video… I watched the entire thing. Def would buy from this guy.
My son bought a buggy hauler... I was thoroughly impressed with the craftsmanship and quality of materials. Not to mention, it was powder coated instead of being just painted.
Finally UA-cam suggested a video I actually want to see and was interesting .
Golly, I learned a lot about trailers from the very start. Don't mind a 20 min video that keeps giving good information. *****
That was 20 minutes ago ? ! It seems so short I wanted more information and others different types of great trailers ‼️🇺🇲🇺🇸✝️🗽⚖️❤️
Don’t want or need a trailer! I watched it because it’s better than TV! Lol. That being said, what a great presentation! Informative, easy to understand, just great! Mr. Rick could sell water in a flood zone!
Guy has game👍Best review I have ever watched and if I lived near you would have bought one just from the care taken to make sure customer is pleased❤️Just listening to his presentation let’s you know they have it together
I have a 2014 20 foot with 7k axles, brakes on all 4 wheels, manual hydraulic tilt. A powered one is fine but actually slow. I can bring a loader or mini excavator up to it, push it down, drive on to the point in tilts back to lock position. Power down is just wrong. The 4" cross members on mine are on 14" centers so the floor will handle about anything you can safely put on it. Yes it weighs a little more but not that much. I put 14 ply tires on it after the originals starting getting scary looking. Stand up ramps are noisy, cut your mileage always, hard to move with age. Stowable ramps are a back ache and prone to noise making. For a bit more money, get a tilt, at least 5k axles, and always brakes all around. See if Powder coating is available over any paint process. Way more durable.
I look for welds across the flange of the beams in flexing areas. Many small trailer manufacturers make the mistake of welding in the wrong places. When you work these small trailers every day, all day long, they'll have cracking problems. For recreational periodic uses, they're typically fine.
Two things forgot to mention...
1- the extra 2 feet of trailer means 500lb less cargo because the trailer weight is increased by that weight and the gross stays the same.
2- the low dovetail scrapes the ground on a quick incline like into a driveway or even some roads.
Nonetheless, I went with the extra two feet and the dovetail 😁
I ordered the 20ft with the 2ft dovetail. Started regretting not going for the extra 2ft but if it's adding more weight and scrapes the ground, then I think I'm good. I will be hauling low cars so I'm not sure tbh.
@@MrSharkBait561 Just looked up the specs. Capacity difference between a 16' to a 22' is only 330 lbs (55/ft). The longer dovetail isn't lower. It's just more gradual. Yes, it's a little further back from the axles making it rub a little easier but it's very minimal. I'd without hesitation get the 22' instead of the 20' for an extra $75.
I bought a Sure- trac 16 ‘ with 2’ steel sides 5k axles and 7k jack and got oak flooring instead of pine. I love my trailer
Very professional presentation by the salesman!👍
I like my 22 ft PJ straight deck, I ordered it with rub rails and mounted winch. The only thing I messed up on was next time electric Jack.
Why would you be wanting a electric jacks ? Where are you going to be able to find a electric power plug out on the highway and dirt road 🛣️.😲🤦🇺🇸🗽⚖️❤️
Thanks for making this video explaining The differences between them and options.
Very very good trailer dealership. Got a friend in Illinois with a construction company, will be recommending this dealership.
Wow, this guy. Nice and knowledgeable and there to explain what you may like and to give you the options for you to make a choice. Id pass 6 trailer dealers to get to this 1...impeccable
Great video, but would like to know more about the various types of trailer jacks, and axels. I bought a Hudson trailer with mobile home axels. I later found out the mobile home axels are inferior. The trailer salesman didn’t educate me on this shortcoming.
I love this video. The supper buggy hauler is my choice for my needs. Im just not ready for a trailer but when I'm ready to pull the trigger it's the one. Thanks for posting
Thanks! The Buggy Hauler is awesome!
I like the crawler haulers with a camper on the front for multi day trips.
THAT steel deck at the very end of the trailer is slicker than SNOT , when Dry , and really slick when wet ! PJ should have welded 1 inch square tubing every six inches across the steel deck for traction !
coatings
You do a excellent job on describing options on the trailers you sale. I wish you were closer to Kings Mountain N.C. Great video I appreciate it so much.
That was great, I was spec-ing out a trailer in my head as he went through the features, brilliant!
Thanks!
I recently bought a brand new 20 ft dovetail trailer it really looks good but after using it a while it's not what I expected for the money the break have never worked right they slow the truck down but even in Grass you can't adjust them to where they'll lock the tires at I think the brake drums are so out of round they just occasionally will catch one of the fenders has already broke loose from where it was welded together I think that happened when the guy delivering it pulled in the driveway I heard a loud popping noise and it seemed like it was coming from the fender the hitch on front of trailer is not adjustable it's too big for the 2-inch ball not big enough for 2 and 5/16 so it just flops up and down on empty trailer. I bought it in Alabama so that's too far for me to carry it back I just want to hope it holds together the only good thing I can say about it is the trailer is set up so you can use your tailgate down
I like the heavy duty split ramps. Much wider so there's no worry in backing off the trailer.
I love the trailer guy. Seems like a nice place to shop. I’m in the area and will check his place out.
Great video. I’m looking to purchase a one car hauler, equipment hauler tight trailer and this was extremely helpful. I don’t know if I can afford a PJ or a diamond see but I will be looking at them.❤
If I lived anywhere near Illinois, I would go see Mr. Rick and come home with a proper trailer for my needs! But thanks Mr. Rick, I will look for a 22’!
I am so shocked at how affordable the upgrade/options are. I guess they all add up though.
Some things Ive learned over many years, you will never buy a shed that"s too big, and never buy a trailer that is too long. A tractor with bucket in front and bush hog on the back will fill it up. an old Cadillac with the eng/trans in front, will fill the 222ft trailer. If it's used, there will be times when you will wish you would have gotten the 25ft trailer.
Great video and what an awesome trailer dealership! Wish all salesman were like that.
Thanks! 👍
How much is the trailer with the side walls, the side ramp entry, the generator tool box on the front? How long is it? I’m looking for something to haul a car, a mobility scooter, a generator, a flat ocean kayak and a supboard. Easy ramps with no fuss no frustration, no perfect aim 😉
Awesome video, I have the PJ buggy hauler trailer and love it.
awesome knowledgeable salesperson.
I’m definitely going to look at PJ for my next trailer. Super presentation.
Thank you :}
I will go out of my way to avoid PJ trailers. I have been somewhat disappointed in the quality of mine. I have a few friends that will never buy them again either. The axles are fine. Everything else is the problem. The biggest deal breaker is the powdercoating job and low quality steel It was awful. It rusted out so fast it wasn't funny. I have had about 25 trailers in my life including building a few and custom ordering one. I have bought cheaper enamel painted ones that got less care and lasted longer. A real shame. Because I live in the rust belt. The dealership for PJ is near by and has an awesome service and a good supply of parts for all makes so that is nice.
@@ifyoutip I agree, I have yet to see a quality made trailer. My buddy has a PJ 40ft triaxle gooseneck. I was underneath, and just going around with a fine tooth comb, so many cut corners. Wiring is always garbage, hand cut cutouts with slag still on them, stuff that is (should be) CNC cut and bent still hammered into place.
I've been a welder for a decade now, so I do speak from experience, not just throwing a company under the bus. I want quality through and through.
My 2020 7×16 dump trailer from pj is a rust bucket, and it only has about 1000 miles on it.
Rusting from the inside out buyer beware.
Great, Great, Great video. I don't have a trailer, but I would love one. This was a very informative video.
Glad you loved the video. Let us know when you’re ready. 😎👍🏻
Thanks brother
You never tie anything to the rub rail, it is not designed to secure loads to. It is there to protect your tie-downs if you get rubbed or sideswiped.
My tires that came on my 2020 7×16 gooseneck dump trailer tires came apart 2 of them, 1 on each side and torn up the fenders with less then 500 miles on it.
Now that is a great salesman. Knows his product line, also knows how to treat his customer!
A cold beer also helps to relax, sort the pros and cons to make the best choice.😁
I'm looking for a car hauler, this is good info, thank you much!
Bought pj last year love it
Real good Tailer salesman. Very knowledgeable
Excellent method to teach about trailers, Great job training
Great video very educational I want to see more different trailers
Great presentation, awesome questions
Good job guys 👍 lm doing trailers in Zimbabwe
What always strikes mewith the American trailers is just how far back the axles are mounted - while this would make sense with a 'fifth wheel' setup, it puts a LOT of tongue load on the tow bar. In Some countries, like down here, there are relatively low tongue weights than can be used, largely because of the affect it has on the dynamic loading of the tow vehicle and the tow vehicle specified loadings.
It is like 2 different worlds European trailers look so weird and small to me lol
WWhat I find weird is the most there trailers are C channel where we use box and there axles are underrated I’ve seen so many UA-cam videos with bent trailer axles hat I find weird is the most of there trailers are C channel where we use box and there axles appear to be underrated I’ve seen so many UA-cam videos with bent trailer axles
@@hamscanner I'm not sure which side of the Atlantic(?) you're on, but on the American side they 'seem' to have a lot of problems with wheel bearings - but that may be due to the higher loadings, much higher speeds, and greater distances they subject them to?
And, of course, they may be statistically very rare and it's just because of the trailer-miles that make them seem more common.
When some many American truck have 1000 to 3000lbs tonge weight. 1/2 truck to 1 ton truck.(1 ton dual rear wheel truck are towing 36k lbs trailers now)
Tongue weight is not as big of a problem with our larger trucks.
If you look at the purpose of these trailers, they are equipment haulers... the heavy equipment is centered or just forward of the axles for the best load and tongue weight distribution. A good demonstration of this is a box trailer construction. Barn doors indicate a more centered load and a forward axle and a ramp door is a more rearward axle.
This is a dang master class and I love it!
Are OrangeLine SU-35 utilty trailers any good? Buying a Kubota Zero-Turn mower and OrangeLine are in cahoots with Kubota and can be included in the zero percent Kubota financing. Good video!
That's Pecatonica! I live on the river up in Wisconsin, didn't know about them and will be checking them out for sure!
Thanks for sharing this video its so helpful.new friend here from the philippines.staysafe and healthy
I have a 20 ft tilt deck, way better than a ramp trailer in opinion dont have to worry about being lined up and easy to load the race cars or anything else actually
Looked at an aluminum 20 foot tilt trailer. Sure like the idea.
Wow such a beautiful presentation
Make side rails in shorter sections as an option . Raise tail lamp assembly 18” to eye level of the average vehicle following the trailer . Install transport chain spools between pockets . Install car haul hinged tie-downs assembly to floor ( pooch plates ) Black paint is the worst color for nighttime visibility of a trailer .
Can see one half a mile away easily with reflective strips on the sides. 🤦🏻♂️
Only thing bad about the ramps being on the rear is if you use bullet hinges those things are junk and will freeze up
So for practical use, I like thebone with the solid sides at 20 feet. But I'd love to have the one that wide enough for a half ton to sit on. I wonder if the other are wide enough for a modern f150 to sit on without any rubbing.
Great explanation of trailer options. Thanks!
Good video Dan. I just watched it for the second time.
Awesome! Thank you!
Great video very informative and helpful
Does the length include the dovetail? I'm confused with a different lengths dovetails what 20 ft is? So is the would 20 ft plus the different lengths dovetails or is it all together included in the length?
Great video! Very informative and good presentation!
Glad you liked it!
What about one for hauling family camping vacation gear
Single axle
This guy knows how to sell
I just bought a bobcat and trailer
The trailer is in good shape for the year it was made
If you guys do trade, I will surely buy one from you
Got to see this trailer in person. its a beauty!! nice video!!
Thanks!
This trailer guy is great. 👍🏽
3:50 Goodride tires? Sound like a good cheap tire.
I'm sorry, I looked this tire up on ebay. It's a mid price tire.
I wonder if you can have the axles mounted further forward or back if it would work better for you?
No. There is an optimal point for axles. If you change that you severely impact the stability and maneuverability of the trailer.
Man I wish I had a yard to keep one of these lol they come in so handy! Thanks for the video guys! TIA#1!!!
Our pleasure!
@@Toolsinaction hey i have a 117 acres country home land ranch farm style home and I'm thinking of getting a new blower and trimmer which best sthil or husqvarna or echo not john deere because new john is not good
@@Toolsinaction also nice video keep up the great work as always
Stihl for sure
Man I'd be happy with a 1700 pounder from HF!
Dude is a guru..
Great video. PJ makes great trailers
Thanks!
The hydraulic dove tail PJ has is well worth it
Great information on trailers especially the pj brand
Thanks
Very helpful, but pricing is a very high consideration
Love this sales CONSULTANT. Awesome!
Very nice tour.
Drop the shorts and tennis shoes. Pants and square toe boots Texas style - go a long way. Great trailers!
Great VIDEO!!!!...should have 'at least' given MSRP PRICING
Geez, I went trailer shopping yesterday, they basically told me to just walk around and look. Price and size was on the tags. Not one ounce of help. Sure wish this place was near me!
For the price of these, isn't it worth a trip to IL?
I wonder why a tilt bed wasn’t considered....
What a trailers he's doing. We need that technology in Kenya.
PJ trailers
This man knows his product.
I would like to have seen a deckover included
No Tilt deck? It completely eliminates the whole ramp question.
I live in Michigan. Where are my PJ dealers?
Good salesman/educator!
Thanks Patrick!! Rick has been here 20 years and is one of the industry’s best. He goes above and beyond to ensure the customer gets exactly what he needs based on expected application. And with so many options out there, he does a great job explaining the pros and cons based on how it’ll be used. Thanks again!!
Rick is the trailer master. He knows things you never would think about.
Excellent vid, thx
Excellent Video Guys
Thanks
Great video, awesome salesman
Glad you enjoyed it
Do most people store trailers inside or is outside fine?
What do you do with it during winter?
Tarp it?
Most leave them outside. PJs are powder coated. They don’t rust quite as fast. Saying that, trailers kept under a roof will last much longer.
Dude just sold me on a PJ trailer and I live in Kentucky
Excellent video!
What if I wanna haul a race buggy with my weedeated, zero turns, ladders, blowers and porta potty...?
Nice trailer I wish that they would have keep going straight with the side braces up by the front d rings instead of curving them in. Could have been a extra spot for heavy duty ratchet straps that don't have the normal hooks. That type won't fit in D rings.
You’re definitely right that D rings are not made for hooking to that type of strap. You should be able to hook those straps to the stake pockets and/or rub rails.
Thanks so much for this information.
Great video guys
Thanks so much!
WOW, You impressed me. 👍
Thank you for the information very helpful information thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Why is no backup light on.? I have to put a backup light on my
I wonder if they make a tilt bed?
they do