I had this same Ioniq. My first electric car.And I made the France Norway trip in July 2022 with my daughters..A wonderful trip to a magnificent country with a superb car. 5900 km in total with an average consumption of 14 kWh.... I loved my Ioniq... With the great ventilated seats for the summer. Thank you for your great video. Thank you for introducing him to electric cars. Today I upgraded to a basic 2021 Model 3. Thank you for all the information you provide us. You have a lot of fans in France ☺️
I had the same EV-career: first Ioniq classic, then M3 LR, after that MY LR, which we are now selling to get an VW ID.7. Bjorn is a real influencer, I am so glad he ist spreading the word... Cheers Julius
This has been my first car at 21 and also my first electric car, love ioniq had done many good adventure with it, then one year later I bought model 3 performance 😁
28kWh Ioniq still has probably the best charging curve of any EV to this day, when actually considering capacity, going by C rating and not just looking at raw kW. It can hold 70kW to ~78%, that's equivalent to 210kW with an 84kWh battery. Only some cars with 84kWh or more today can peak at 210kW, none of them can hold it to anywhere near 78%.
@@HoltAlex 28kWh Ioniq can charge at 70kW, which is already quite impressive for the size of the battery, but what makes it even more impressive is that it will stay at 70kW and not drop until 77-78%. A car with triple the battery size should theoretically be able to charge at least triple the power, and while some cars today with 80-100kWh battery do reach 200+ kW under peak optimal conditions, but all of them start to drop at somewhere 40-65%. If you hypothetically put 3 Ioniq 28kWh batteries together, you would have a 84kWh battery that can charge at 210kW flat curve until 78%. That is still better than any current EV battery charge curve to this day. Better than Tesla, Taycan, and new Ioniq. And it's air cooled!!
The Ioniq of my wife is about 6.5 years old now and the average energy consumption over all these years is 10.7 KWh/100 km. She can't decide to buy another car because there is no such car available on the market which this efficency. So, she will drive this car as long as possible furthermore. In all these years she didn't have any problems with this car. Till today the car has the same range as on the first day.
I think the inside trim was related to the outside color, at least for Austria. I had a Marina Blue one with the highest trim and it had the silver inserts. White was with copper.
It’s six years since I got my classiq Ioniq, after following your videos at the time. I put 120k km on it before getting my Model 3, but my wife preferred to get rid of her own Toyota and take the Ioniq off me, and she’s delighted she did. Great car, given us no trouble apart from the rear door handles which were replaced under warranty but went again recently. A small complaint about a great value, practical and well-specced car.
We recently sold ours. Was specced just like yours! A lot of car for the money, comfortable, all the tech and android auto support. Loved it. We sold it because we recently moved to a place a few hundred meters above sea level, and we quickly figured out that it's not good in winter. Ours got stuck a lot when driving uphill, even with a brand new set of premium winter tires. Was a bit scary. I guess it's mostly due to the fact that the heavy batteries are placed too far back (under the rear seats) and it's FWD. Not a good combination. So replacing it with an AWD Nissan Ariya.
I have 28kWh Ioniq (2018) and it also has those copper details outside and inside. And it is "barebones" edition without heatpump or anything (no heated steering wheel, no heated seats...) Copper details are only on Electric versions, Plug-In version has blue accents, except on console sides as it is different on Electric than Plugin and Hybrid.
@@ME-cb1vw Finland, with a Ioniq imported from Frankfurt area, Germany. My one is with projector lights and really bare bone options, more blanks than switches. My wife have same age Ioniq (2018 electric) with leather interrior, led lights and it has heated seats (front & back), heated wheel and heatpump. That was imported from Sweden. So there were 2018 some cars with a very basic options. To be honest, I like fabric seats more than leather ones that better equiped one has. Too slippery for me. In past 2 winters difference with or without heatpump has been 20~30km.
I bought a 2017 Ioniq after one of your reviews and I still have it. It has been the most reliable vehicle I have ever owned. I still get 200kms of range. I never DC charge, maybe that’s why my battery is still in excellent shape.
I bought a classic ioniq too thanks to your video's which i've been following for years! I just drove all the way to Copenhagen this month to test it. Mine has 130.000km and almost no degradation! Unbelievable car!
Nice surprise! I own the ioniq 28 and it is great. It seems like there is no degradation because the bms increases the upper voltage limit. The only things i dislike are the sound isolation, the sound system and the fact that it is fwd.
We are almost at 220.000km with our ioniq 28kWh. Bought due to Björn Nylands entusiasm about it. Still lovely to drive, no problem doing 200km in bad winter weather (although we have no Norwegian winters). The only out of the ordinary maintenance was a broken air-conditioning at about 200k km. Overall a significantly cheaper car to maintain compared to your average petrol car. The only car thats cheaper to maintain is the old Nissan Leaf.
My heartrate is rising, that's one just like mine, even the same km readings. These copper coloured frames are original btw. We all touched the hot cigarett lighter 🤣
I did the same two years ago! It is a great car, pretty much the best reliability I've ever had. Charges on the road at 70kW no matter the temperature. It finishes is 20 minutes, faster than I can finish eating at the station while stopped.
Bought a used 2017 Ioniq Premium in march this year. Would be super interested to see degradation and modifications! Mine had 150 000 kilometres when I bought it. The reduction gear box made some quiet sounds when accelerating out of a corner. But it was still in the original warranty period (2 weeks left), so they actually replaced it and the motor (because at first they thought it was the motor bearing.) So, dear ioniq friends, don't go too crazy on the accelerator if you want your differential to be happy for a long time. :) I made an Aviloo battery test back then and got 91%. The BMS is still reporting 100% SOH. Last time I tried to drive from 100% to 5% I got slightly above 220km. That was mostly driving 90km/h if I remember correctly. Best consumption I ever got on my 50km work trip was 8.9kWh/100km. Usually I get between 10-11. When I am in a hurry it is more like 14. I think rain increases consumption by 10-20%. With the heated seats and heated steering I barely even use the heatpump. I wish it hat heated pedals though :D Heated steering goes a long way on saving energy in winter. Something I didn't expect beforehand. 95% of the time I just use the granny charger. Perfectly usable with a 28kWh battery. Love it ^^ I wish there was a setting to stop charging at 80%. Instead I made a small excel sheet with starting percentages and times, where I can quickly look up to what time I have to set the timer for the delayed charging. This way it is at 75% and warm every morning.
I own Ioniq 28 kWh from the end of 2019. I'm living in Bergen, Norway. Still a very nice car. Both, for city use and longer trips. When buying it I had choise between it or e-Golf. Ioniq won thanks to cost-to-standard and higher charging speed.
"Reklame" that's funny - this word (exactly the same spelling) was common for advertising in germany aswell when I was a child (in the 70s/80s) but was more and more replaced by what's the common word today: "Werbung" I still drive my Ioniq classic which I bought in 2018 in the German top trim "Premium", which apparently is the same as the one Marcus bought. Still a great car and I'm not planning on replacing it anytime soon. The copper trim (on the interior and at some spots on the exterior aswell) was standard for that trim with most colours! Only some, like the red-ish "phoenix orange metallic" and a gold-ish yellow metallic have aluminium-ish applications instead. I have the "phoenix orange", was difficult to get in the time frame I wanted to replace my older Skoda (boring white was the easiest to get), and I'd have prefered the copper interior, but Hyundai designers thought that wouldn't match, and it wasn't possible to choose. Well, I can live with that 🙂At least it doesn't have blue applications (which was common "hey I'm an EV!!!" yelling styling back then and still available for some cars like some lower-trim [I believe] BMW EVs), which in the Ioniq was only forced on the lame hybrid versions.
I loved my classic Ioniq! Given the daylights it seem to be the original with more charging power, isn't it? However, I now have the Ioniq 6 and basically this classic version was foreshadowing what was coming.
I found it happened when I forgot to lock it one night. Woke up to a dead 12V. Gave it a Google and apparently it's a 12V battery logic issue; aka it doesn't charge the 12V when the car is off and unlocked.
Ioniq 28 kWh was my second EV after a Renault Fluence. Are there still any Fluence's in Norway? The Fluence was a very nice car to drive but a 1000 km challenge with that one would be an absolute nightmare (topspeed 135 km, PTC heater, no fastcharging and only 20 kWh battery)
Yes, I see one in Fredrikstad every once in a while. Sometimes I see a Rav 4 with a sticker that says "Tesla inside" and sometimes I see a VW Golf Citystromer.
Three years ago he did a lot of videos on the 2020 e-Up! As a 2018 e-Up! driver I watched them all. The slower DC charging above 50% and that you have to disable the "lane assistant" every time is really annoying on the new model.
Bjørn what a nice car. It's not gold in the interior, but copper (looks) . The first Ioniq electic's had these in and exterior copper looks to emphasize electric power ( copper wire) . By the way i still drive this "classic" because of your review back in the days. Thx again for your video's Greetings from the Netherlands
The car I bought thanks to recommendation from Bjørn. Still works like a dream :) I think I got lucky with a model so far. 67k km and would like to see my deg as well.
Hi Björn and Marcus could you pls buy a VW eUP ! 2020. I Carried out a degradation test on my eUP! 2020 and I measured 26,46 kWh until it died. But I do not have another vehicle to compare.
Yup, I bought at the top 🤦♂️ Still a great car but it's so painful to see what it's worth now, although some of the difference is eaten up by higher interest rates.
Won't be anywhere near as efficient, but if you need the range.. Maybe consider a used Kona or Niro? Very similar charging and battery specs to the shiny Niro EV, with very similar toys inside too, just looks a bit older and possibly older Euro NCAP safety ratings to consider.
I still have my 2017 Ioniq EV, basic edition, no cooper trim. 108,000 miles (174,000 km), very little degradation, and still runs like a charm.
I had this same Ioniq. My first electric car.And I made the France Norway trip in July 2022 with my daughters..A wonderful trip to a magnificent country with a superb car. 5900 km in total with an average consumption of 14 kWh.... I loved my Ioniq... With the great ventilated seats for the summer. Thank you for your great video. Thank you for introducing him to electric cars. Today I upgraded to a basic 2021 Model 3. Thank you for all the information you provide us. You have a lot of fans in France ☺️
I had the same EV-career: first Ioniq classic, then M3 LR, after that MY LR, which we are now selling to get an VW ID.7. Bjorn is a real influencer, I am so glad he ist spreading the word... Cheers Julius
This has been my first car at 21 and also my first electric car, love ioniq had done many good adventure with it, then one year later I bought model 3 performance 😁
I still have my Ioniq after 6 and a half years ago, with 152.000km, I have measured a degradation of only 3,43%
The classic Ioniq is still the blueprint for an ideal EV. Enough range for normal use, fast charging when you are on a trip and very, very efficient.
28kWh Ioniq still has probably the best charging curve of any EV to this day, when actually considering capacity, going by C rating and not just looking at raw kW.
It can hold 70kW to ~78%, that's equivalent to 210kW with an 84kWh battery. Only some cars with 84kWh or more today can peak at 210kW, none of them can hold it to anywhere near 78%.
@@ashton9699 and the batteries seem to be holding on to their capacity pretty well as they age.
@@ashton9699Please could you explain the comparison here? I have an Ioniq 28kWh and love it 😊
@@HoltAlex 28kWh Ioniq can charge at 70kW, which is already quite impressive for the size of the battery, but what makes it even more impressive is that it will stay at 70kW and not drop until 77-78%.
A car with triple the battery size should theoretically be able to charge at least triple the power, and while some cars today with 80-100kWh battery do reach 200+ kW under peak optimal conditions, but all of them start to drop at somewhere 40-65%.
If you hypothetically put 3 Ioniq 28kWh batteries together, you would have a 84kWh battery that can charge at 210kW flat curve until 78%. That is still better than any current EV battery charge curve to this day. Better than Tesla, Taycan, and new Ioniq. And it's air cooled!!
@@ashton9699that's the problem, you can't put 3 of them together, it's becoming more and more complex, like transistors in cpu
The Ioniq of my wife is about 6.5 years old now and the average energy consumption over all these years is 10.7 KWh/100 km. She can't decide to buy another car because there is no such car available on the market which this efficency. So, she will drive this car as long as possible furthermore.
In all these years she didn't have any problems with this car. Till today the car has the same range as on the first day.
Fun that you are going to test the Ioniq Classic again! Was my first car, did 85000 before i upgraded to the Ioniq 5
It had copper inserts as standard in the highest versions
I think the inside trim was related to the outside color, at least for Austria. I had a Marina Blue one with the highest trim and it had the silver inserts. White was with copper.
@@lucas7793 white and black paint had copper trim. All others this white siverish. And hybrids had blue trim
My red Ioniq have copper inserts as well. The basic model.
Marcus is great! What year is the car from?
@@ME-cb1vw My gray also has a copper finish
It’s six years since I got my classiq Ioniq, after following your videos at the time. I put 120k km on it before getting my Model 3, but my wife preferred to get rid of her own Toyota and take the Ioniq off me, and she’s delighted she did. Great car, given us no trouble apart from the rear door handles which were replaced under warranty but went again recently. A small complaint about a great value, practical and well-specced car.
We recently sold ours. Was specced just like yours! A lot of car for the money, comfortable, all the tech and android auto support. Loved it. We sold it because we recently moved to a place a few hundred meters above sea level, and we quickly figured out that it's not good in winter. Ours got stuck a lot when driving uphill, even with a brand new set of premium winter tires. Was a bit scary. I guess it's mostly due to the fact that the heavy batteries are placed too far back (under the rear seats) and it's FWD. Not a good combination. So replacing it with an AWD Nissan Ariya.
I have 28kWh Ioniq (2018) and it also has those copper details outside and inside. And it is "barebones" edition without heatpump or anything (no heated steering wheel, no heated seats...)
Copper details are only on Electric versions, Plug-In version has blue accents, except on console sides as it is different on Electric than Plugin and Hybrid.
which country do you live? In germany all variants had seat heater and heated steering whell.
@@ME-cb1vw Finland, with a Ioniq imported from Frankfurt area, Germany. My one is with projector lights and really bare bone options, more blanks than switches. My wife have same age Ioniq (2018 electric) with leather interrior, led lights and it has heated seats (front & back), heated wheel and heatpump. That was imported from Sweden.
So there were 2018 some cars with a very basic options. To be honest, I like fabric seats more than leather ones that better equiped one has. Too slippery for me.
In past 2 winters difference with or without heatpump has been 20~30km.
I bought a 2017 Ioniq after one of your reviews and I still have it. It has been the most reliable vehicle I have ever owned.
I still get 200kms of range. I never DC charge, maybe that’s why my battery is still in excellent shape.
You should really do a test to see how well the ioniq compares to modern EV's. I think it will do very well still.
Between this and the second-hand e-Golf it's quite interesting to see what the 2nd hand market is like.. What these cars are like, degredation etc.
I think funnily enough the reviews for the old gen will do more good for the EV adoption than reviewing the shiny new toys!
I bought a classic ioniq too thanks to your video's which i've been following for years!
I just drove all the way to Copenhagen this month to test it.
Mine has 130.000km and almost no degradation!
Unbelievable car!
The classic Ioniq is the best, I have not yet found a replacement.
simply because there is none
Time for an e-golf vs Ioniq race? Haven't seen Pawel in a while, maybe he could help with a head-to head? 🤔
Yes I like pawel vs born race
Nice surprise! I own the ioniq 28 and it is great. It seems like there is no degradation because the bms increases the upper voltage limit. The only things i dislike are the sound isolation, the sound system and the fact that it is fwd.
The Classic ioniq Is awesome, i want One but in Italy are very rare to find. We have a Kona.
A ioniq with this spec in Italy cost 20.000-24.000€
I think it would be a good idea to bring him from the Dutch or German market, where their availability is high and prices are more affordable
We are almost at 220.000km with our ioniq 28kWh. Bought due to Björn Nylands entusiasm about it. Still lovely to drive, no problem doing 200km in bad winter weather (although we have no Norwegian winters). The only out of the ordinary maintenance was a broken air-conditioning at about 200k km. Overall a significantly cheaper car to maintain compared to your average petrol car. The only car thats cheaper to maintain is the old Nissan Leaf.
My heartrate is rising, that's one just like mine, even the same km readings. These copper coloured frames are original btw.
We all touched the hot cigarett lighter 🤣
I just bought a 2018 with the same specification and same mileage. It will replace my Ampera with a mileage of 280,000 km 😀
I did the same two years ago! It is a great car, pretty much the best reliability I've ever had. Charges on the road at 70kW no matter the temperature. It finishes is 20 minutes, faster than I can finish eating at the station while stopped.
Bought a used 2017 Ioniq Premium in march this year.
Would be super interested to see degradation and modifications!
Mine had 150 000 kilometres when I bought it.
The reduction gear box made some quiet sounds when accelerating out of a corner. But it was still in the original warranty period (2 weeks left), so they actually replaced it and the motor (because at first they thought it was the motor bearing.)
So, dear ioniq friends, don't go too crazy on the accelerator if you want your differential to be happy for a long time. :)
I made an Aviloo battery test back then and got 91%. The BMS is still reporting 100% SOH.
Last time I tried to drive from 100% to 5% I got slightly above 220km. That was mostly driving 90km/h if I remember correctly.
Best consumption I ever got on my 50km work trip was 8.9kWh/100km.
Usually I get between 10-11.
When I am in a hurry it is more like 14.
I think rain increases consumption by 10-20%.
With the heated seats and heated steering I barely even use the heatpump. I wish it hat heated pedals though :D
Heated steering goes a long way on saving energy in winter. Something I didn't expect beforehand.
95% of the time I just use the granny charger. Perfectly usable with a 28kWh battery. Love it ^^
I wish there was a setting to stop charging at 80%.
Instead I made a small excel sheet with starting percentages and times, where I can quickly look up to what time I have to set the timer for the delayed charging. This way it is at 75% and warm every morning.
When he buys you a car, you know it must be true love 😂🎉
My 2017 Ioniq28 has negligible battery degradation and has 150000km now. Great car.
That was my first EV, had better software than my current ID4
IONIQ ftw!
how is yours? Are you in still in contact with the buyer?
@@ME-cb1vw everything is fine. Update is coming.
We had the original Ioniq before upgrading to a model Y, thanks to your videos!
My call : no noticeable degradation, 150km of range. Easy to calculate, 28kWh battery so as soon as you are over 14kWh/100km, less than 200km.
Looking forward to the upcoming Ioniq videos! Fantastic car!
Imagine if that car had a 64kWh battery 😍
The Ioniq is still a good car.
Looking forwards to this one the classic Ionic. Also I have ordered a new Kona so can’t wait to see what you make of it. 👍👍👍
My Ioniq are almost 5 years, and 128 t km.
finally! i love the classic evs session
KiaBjørn in the house!
Kudos to Marcus!
Classic Ioniq is a beast.
I would love the Aux input still, but apparently according to the manufacturers I do not want it any more...
I own Ioniq 28 kWh from the end of 2019. I'm living in Bergen, Norway. Still a very nice car. Both, for city use and longer trips. When buying it I had choise between it or e-Golf. Ioniq won thanks to cost-to-standard and higher charging speed.
"Reklame" that's funny - this word (exactly the same spelling) was common for advertising in germany aswell when I was a child (in the 70s/80s) but was more and more replaced by what's the common word today: "Werbung"
I still drive my Ioniq classic which I bought in 2018 in the German top trim "Premium", which apparently is the same as the one Marcus bought. Still a great car and I'm not planning on replacing it anytime soon. The copper trim (on the interior and at some spots on the exterior aswell) was standard for that trim with most colours! Only some, like the red-ish "phoenix orange metallic" and a gold-ish yellow metallic have aluminium-ish applications instead. I have the "phoenix orange", was difficult to get in the time frame I wanted to replace my older Skoda (boring white was the easiest to get), and I'd have prefered the copper interior, but Hyundai designers thought that wouldn't match, and it wasn't possible to choose. Well, I can live with that 🙂At least it doesn't have blue applications (which was common "hey I'm an EV!!!" yelling styling back then and still available for some cars like some lower-trim [I believe] BMW EVs), which in the Ioniq was only forced on the lame hybrid versions.
In Croatia we still say and spell reklame 😁
YESS, looking forward for som tests with this classic car. First the golf lately and now this. Need to buy popcorn.
Lots of releases lately...I like it !
I loved my classic Ioniq! Given the daylights it seem to be the original with more charging power, isn't it? However, I now have the Ioniq 6 and basically this classic version was foreshadowing what was coming.
Interesting to see if you'll suffer for the 12 V battery drainage. Some of the Ioniqs are suffering for it in winter and Hyundai not able to fix it.
I found it happened when I forgot to lock it one night. Woke up to a dead 12V. Gave it a Google and apparently it's a 12V battery logic issue; aka it doesn't charge the 12V when the car is off and unlocked.
Ioniq 28 kWh was my second EV after a Renault Fluence. Are there still any Fluence's in Norway? The Fluence was a very nice car to drive but a 1000 km challenge with that one would be an absolute nightmare (topspeed 135 km, PTC heater, no fastcharging and only 20 kWh battery)
Yes, I see one in Fredrikstad every once in a while. Sometimes I see a Rav 4 with a sticker that says "Tesla inside" and sometimes I see a VW Golf Citystromer.
I have one! Just a wonderful and amazing car. Love to drive it. Looking forward to all the upcoming videos👍👍
Björn you really need to test the VW e-up 2020 it efficient has a lot of space only thing it charged slow
Three years ago he did a lot of videos on the 2020 e-Up! As a 2018 e-Up! driver I watched them all. The slower DC charging above 50% and that you have to disable the "lane assistant" every time is really annoying on the new model.
I love the classic Ioniq!
I think we're all waiting for Marcus to buy a new Model 3 for you.
Bjørn what a nice car. It's not gold in the interior, but copper (looks) . The first Ioniq electic's had these in and exterior copper looks to emphasize electric power ( copper wire) . By the way i still drive this "classic" because of your review back in the days. Thx again for your video's Greetings from the Netherlands
The car I bought thanks to recommendation from Bjørn. Still works like a dream :) I think I got lucky with a model so far. 67k km and would like to see my deg as well.
I'm at 120kkm , no Degradation ;-)
67k km is nothing to worry about. check again at 167k.
Time for some 4K podcast soon?
Hi Björn and Marcus could you pls buy a VW eUP ! 2020. I Carried out a degradation test on my eUP! 2020 and I measured 26,46 kWh until it died. But I do not have another vehicle to compare.
When you will be able to test Telsa Model 3 Highland?
140. 000 NOK is around 11.800 € or 12.500 $...
Wow these things really dropped in value. A few months ago they were worth 20k euro
Yup, I bought at the top 🤦♂️ Still a great car but it's so painful to see what it's worth now, although some of the difference is eaten up by higher interest rates.
Yes finally! fine, fine!
Finally Snowwhite came to Tesla Bjørn 😁👍
I'm considering upgrading from the Ioniq 28 to the Kia Niro EV but the Kia is 3 times the price and I'm not sure it's actually worth it...
Won't be anywhere near as efficient, but if you need the range.. Maybe consider a used Kona or Niro? Very similar charging and battery specs to the shiny Niro EV, with very similar toys inside too, just looks a bit older and possibly older Euro NCAP safety ratings to consider.
the pickup looks awesome
@Bjørn, where da Highland testing? Ioniq, Elbilmek, e-Golf, broken Toyota, broken BMW i3, Leaf, Xpeng G9... But where da Highland?
Marcus is still waiting for delivery...
@@bjornnylandgot it 😊 really looking forward to it
Finally ioniq 👍
Full service video.
Is it 28 or 38 kwh?
Classic = 28 kWh
@@bjornnylandthanks. Though I’m a bit disappointed, that my 38 kwh Ioniq from 2020 is not classic 😢
This is the Ioniq they nerfed the DC charging on? Gotta do another 1000km test if that's the case 😊
The way it looks, it's still the good early one with 28kWh and roughly 70kW charging. The one to get, IMO 👍
They nerfed the charging?! which model year did that happen
No, this is the good old one 28kWh Ioniq. They nerfed the charging with the 39kWh Facelift model.
I'm very interessted at the Ionic 6 and I'm looking for a used eCar...
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The logo reads "Marcusail"
😂 Cigarette lighter.
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When I saw e-Golf video this was crossed my mind 😂
I guess everyone who was born before around 2005 learned to respect the cigarette lighter. Maybe yunger ones too.
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