@@kruidjehetparkietjeActually, from the time I started working on this to the time I actually made this recording, I worked on this for a little over a year (most precisely fifteen months), if you consider a day's work being four hours of practicing this. But don't forget that it took that long, to a great extent, dut to having to have had my piano re-voiced, the action re-regulated and maintained, the hammers hardened and the hammer shank rollers replaced. All this while running on an extremely low budget. So it makes sense to discount a few months to allow for all these changes. If I had had a much bigger budget, I would've finshed a lot sooner.
Thanks for including me in your video! Although I disagree with the placement of Le Preux, the Tchaikovsky should be switched with it. It is easier to play the Tchaikovsky super fast than it is to play Le Preux even slowly. Great work though.
Dreyschock was the first one to play Chopin's revolutionary etude in octaves, and at the correct tempo. It's said he incorporated this octave version in every performance he gave. According to Kullak (a famous music teacher who taught royalty), he said that Dreyschock's technique was even finer than that of Liszt's. There's an account of an interaction where Dreyschock showed Liszt this octave version and Liszt responded with playing Chopin's op25 no2 in octaves (at correct tempo). Not sure what is more impressive, but would've been amazing to see! I don't think any pianist today could do this, and if they could, probably not at the correct tempo.
This is an amazing comparision! Also I love that you used caleb hu's recording of le preux! also damn I remember watching that revolutionary etude arrangement a few months ago and I was astonished
man i desagree so bad with the tchaikvosky, le preux octaves are much harder tbh, because le preux octaves jump so much more, and even if the tchaikovsky ones are faster, you dont have to be super precise in jumping
@@Jartious i mean, i can play the tchaikovsky octaves, but the le preux when i tried, impossible, the beggining of le preux octave is easy ofc, but when we get to like the middle to the end, just too hard
the reason being the jump distance, when you play octaves near each other is very easy tbh, but when it is over 1 octave jump IN OCTAVES, i mean tchaikovsky has some but le preux have way more and are way harder, and tchaikovsky ones lead you to possibilities to use rubato like 99% of the pianist who do it
@@brent3522 i dont know, for me and everyone i've ever met until now octaves repetition were easy and acuracy on jumps in octaves were hard, but you're right everyone has its own dificulties
I was expecting Chopin's Octaves Étude(Op. 25 No. 10) to be on here somewhere, but still, an interesting list. Level 9 looked painful, but level 10? It's probably hard enough playing the Revolutionary Étude as it is, but doing it with octaves? That performer's definitely a madlad!
Absolutely bonkers. When I saw "octaves in the title" I immediately thought of hungarian rhapsody no 6 and i thought it would be like the last one but OHH BOIII I WAS WRONG 😂😂😂
I'm 11 and my dream piece is the Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto No. 2 lol (and you know its bad when the entire left hand is octaves for 50 measures straight)
I'd say the double octave passsage (in Eb) in the first movement of Tchaikovsky PC 1 are more difficult than those towards the end of the last movement. An extremely difficult and thrilling octave passage is in the 5th variation of the 2nd movement of Prokofiev's PC3 - it has leaps in both directions at great speed!
I love the Alkan etude op. 35, it’s such a pretty and fun piece…to listen to, at least 😂 I’ve tried playing the Tchaikovsky octaves, and the only really hard part (in that specific octave passage, there’s also a few in the first movement) is the jumps at the end. Which is why a lot of people either slow down at the end or play the end messily. But Argerich plays it perfectly 😮🤩
Of course it’s subjective, but I personally think that the Liszt rhapsody #6 is MUCH harder than most things on here - at least to play well enough to be deemed acceptable by the standards of most people today. It takes incredible endurance and is harder than any pieces I have played with difficult octaves - definitely more difficult than say Erlkonig or the coda of the Liszt b minor sonata, and harder for sure than the octave passages in the Tchaikovsky B-flat concerto. It’s not all that difficult to hit the right notes, but it is difficult to last for that long and to take a fast enough tempo and then speed up, as the music says to do. Props to anyone who can do it well.
It's my favourite recording of this piece. Although Argerich and Grynyuk have stunning speed, I feel like they kinda make it sound mushy towards the end.
Great video once again, I've heard of all of these, me personally I loved the Tchaikovsky octaves, even if I'm quite a huge fan of Alkan lol. Le Preux is just a bit overrated imo
not a good list at all... try Scarlatti Sonata K 44 , Grieg/Ginzburg in the hall of the mountain king. Volodos Alla Turca...Least you got alkan, that's nice...but still...cziffra sabre dance...
Thanks so much for including me in your video! 👋
No probs, you're a great pianist
Bro, how much practice did you have. like 14 years per day????!!?!?!???
@@kruidjehetparkietjeActually, from the time I started working on this to the time I actually made this recording, I worked on this for a little over a year (most precisely fifteen months), if you consider a day's work being four hours of practicing this. But don't forget that it took that long, to a great extent, dut to having to have had my piano re-voiced, the action re-regulated and maintained, the hammers hardened and the hammer shank rollers replaced. All this while running on an extremely low budget. So it makes sense to discount a few months to allow for all these changes. If I had had a much bigger budget, I would've finshed a lot sooner.
@@extremepianochannel 14 years 4 hours… I was pretty close right (but no joke, insane performance )
@@kruidjehetparkietje Much appreciated!
you know shits gonna go crazy when le preux is only a level 6
I missed the Brahms Concerto No.2 (second movement), that octaves passage is hard as fuck
what was so insane with lvl 10 is the keys he had hit previously hadnt even recovered fully before he returned to them he was
moving so fast
Wait until you see my Yamaha ju109 😂
It's because of the bad piano key mechanisms.
level 1: rondo alla turca (turkish march) 0:12
level 2: czerny etude op. 553 no. 3 0:30
level 3: hungarian rhapsody no. 2 0:43
level 4: hungraian rhapsody no. 6 1:14
level 5: alkan etude op. 35 no. 12 1:49
level 6: alkan le preux 2:19
level 7: korsakov/czriffa flight of the bumblebee 2:47
level 8: tchaikovsky concerto no. 1 3:16
level 9: mereaux op. 63 no. 60
level 10: chopin revolutionary etude in octaves 4:43
Cziffra's Flight of the Bumblebee remix sounds more like a swarm of bees tho.
Swarm of angry bees*
You do realize you can edit comments, right?
@@vhanzesp ye but i want everyone to see the original version
Its not a “remix” its a “transcription”
@@ClassicallyPerfezionista I'm aware, I just say it like that
Thanks for including me in your video! Although I disagree with the placement of Le Preux, the Tchaikovsky should be switched with it. It is easier to play the Tchaikovsky super fast than it is to play Le Preux even slowly. Great work though.
yes wait until you sight read it up 💀
Dreyschock was the first one to play Chopin's revolutionary etude in octaves, and at the correct tempo. It's said he incorporated this octave version in every performance he gave. According to Kullak (a famous music teacher who taught royalty), he said that Dreyschock's technique was even finer than that of Liszt's. There's an account of an interaction where Dreyschock showed Liszt this octave version and Liszt responded with playing Chopin's op25 no2 in octaves (at correct tempo). Not sure what is more impressive, but would've been amazing to see! I don't think any pianist today could do this, and if they could, probably not at the correct tempo.
Lol I have read about all these accounts and they never fail to make me smile!
Hard to believe they would play as quickly as todays performers in octaves TBH.
That Mereaux is brutal 😂
fr, my hand would fall off about 30 seconds in
What i love is just how Martha continues being a virtuous pianist. Its beyond me
@@beastasfiist I think I'll learn it just for the bants
This is an amazing comparision!
Also I love that you used caleb hu's recording of le preux! also damn I remember watching that revolutionary etude arrangement a few months ago and I was astonished
Yeah, he had the cleanest sound and nice sounding piano in my opinion.
No. 9 is just diabolical!! Very well executed too
man i desagree so bad with the tchaikvosky, le preux octaves are much harder tbh, because le preux octaves jump so much more, and even if the tchaikovsky ones are faster, you dont have to be super precise in jumping
I personally find the Tchaikovsky octaves harder, since it's almost double the speed and for longer
@@Jartious i mean, i can play the tchaikovsky octaves, but the le preux when i tried, impossible, the beggining of le preux octave is easy ofc, but when we get to like the middle to the end, just too hard
the reason being the jump distance, when you play octaves near each other is very easy tbh, but when it is over 1 octave jump IN OCTAVES, i mean tchaikovsky has some but le preux have way more and are way harder, and tchaikovsky ones lead you to possibilities to use rubato like 99% of the pianist who do it
@@davikersulks9525it's almost like different pianists have different strengths and weaknesses 🤔
@@brent3522 i dont know, for me and everyone i've ever met until now octaves repetition were easy and acuracy on jumps in octaves were hard, but you're right everyone has its own dificulties
Then someone will casually say “is just having the right technique” like BRUH.
It kinda is
yea just play well 4head
I was expecting Chopin's Octaves Étude(Op. 25 No. 10) to be on here somewhere, but still, an interesting list. Level 9 looked painful, but level 10? It's probably hard enough playing the Revolutionary Étude as it is, but doing it with octaves? That performer's definitely a madlad!
Absolutely bonkers. When I saw "octaves in the title" I immediately thought of hungarian rhapsody no 6 and i thought it would be like the last one but OHH BOIII I WAS WRONG 😂😂😂
Lmao not even 5th place
Man i remember when i was like this.. thinking these big monumental pieces were hard, until i got deeper in the hole and traversed the glacier more
@@TheRealChopin I wonder how much deeper this all goes
@@TheRealChopin It's like the duning kruger effect where someone doesn't know what they don't know
@@BambooNtertainmentIsEpic exactly
I'm 11 and my dream piece is the Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto No. 2 lol (and you know its bad when the entire left hand is octaves for 50 measures straight)
Good for you! Shoot for the stars.
I expected Liszt to be here.
Who didn’t
#10
I can't even play wrong notes that fast
Shit you lost me at level 3 🤣🤣🤣🤣
4:59 ARE YOU SERIOUS
actually i heard thats dreyschocks idea of playing "revolutionary' lh in octaves
The octaves in Le Preux are harder than those in Tchaikovsky and those in the Cziffra transcription for sure.
You should have included Sonata in B Minor and Etude No.7 "Eroica" Eroica has really insane octaves
Dat Mereaux's reminds me of Schumann's Toccata, but with LH octave barrages 💀💀💀
Although Le Preux should go 7th or 8th place I think, thank you for making this list. agree overall
Its gonna be crazy when HR No.6 is only level 4
Godowsky's study on chopin's op 25 no 2 should've been here
I'd say the double octave passsage (in Eb) in the first movement of Tchaikovsky PC 1 are more difficult than those towards the end of the last movement. An extremely difficult and thrilling octave passage is in the 5th variation of the 2nd movement of Prokofiev's PC3 - it has leaps in both directions at great speed!
Level 2 is so beautiful! Like level 4. And level 8. But level 7 IS MADNESS OF HELL. Mereaux' music is excellent!
i think le preux should be above evil bumblebee and tchaikovsky
fr
1:15 should also be in ur "10 levels of left hand jumps" vid
It is! Just not this exact recording.
Should have put Schubert Wanderer fantasie
was lvl 10 even possible? Amazing.
I love the Alkan etude op. 35, it’s such a pretty and fun piece…to listen to, at least 😂 I’ve tried playing the Tchaikovsky octaves, and the only really hard part (in that specific octave passage, there’s also a few in the first movement) is the jumps at the end. Which is why a lot of people either slow down at the end or play the end messily. But Argerich plays it perfectly 😮🤩
Hungarian rhapsody no 6 in level 4💀
What the hell was wrong with mereaux. What could we as pianists possibly have done to him.
Of course it’s subjective, but I personally think that the Liszt rhapsody #6 is MUCH harder than most things on here - at least to play well enough to be deemed acceptable by the standards of most people today. It takes incredible endurance and is harder than any pieces I have played with difficult octaves - definitely more difficult than say Erlkonig or the coda of the Liszt b minor sonata, and harder for sure than the octave passages in the Tchaikovsky B-flat concerto. It’s not all that difficult to hit the right notes, but it is difficult to last for that long and to take a fast enough tempo and then speed up, as the music says to do. Props to anyone who can do it well.
Yeah honestly. For some reason I can play le preux coda fairly well, but give up at around the 1 minute mark of hr6 Friska
That Chopin Revolutionary Etude arrangement sounds so "Godowsky"
IK its by Dreyschock btw
I knew there was something wrong with you if you already had the rondo as level 1
I’m exhausted
I'm surprised Schubert D. 760 and/or 784 didn't make the cut...
yea course preux octaves are make me sweating
1:21 I actually have seen this recording before
It's my favourite recording of this piece. Although Argerich and Grynyuk have stunning speed, I feel like they kinda make it sound mushy towards the end.
No surprise there lol
La campanella by Liszt:
Great video once again, I've heard of all of these, me personally I loved the Tchaikovsky octaves, even if I'm quite a huge fan of Alkan lol. Le Preux is just a bit overrated imo
Everything from le preux and on doesnt look real lol
I would argue the Flight of the Bumblebee octaves are easier than Le Preux from my own experience with the pieces.
Lmao ofc Cziffra
How are your wrists btw?
10 levels is repeated notes?
pls?
I sub
I suggest adding something by prokofiev in your next "10 LEVELS" video, if there's going to be one
how about a trancendal etude 7 and sonata in b minor is octave
Guy, what about Ruslan and Lyudmila Variations? Is it Level 6 or Level 7?
By Volodos
Pov: you saw le preux on level 6 💀
Look up gallop in a minor by Liszt, level 11 for sure
when i saw the last level is chopin etude i said are you seriouse u said yes XD
Alkan's 35-12 is actually not that hard, immensely easier than HR6. The other day I managed to sightread through it pretty well lol
Wait no 10/16!!!
Me figuring out the time signature at 1:55
Sees Hr6 in 4/10, *visible confusion*😂
What about an octave + a fifth
2:44 HOW TF BRO PLAYS THAT FAST
Bè a voi piace lo studio di chopin così?
Where does Schubert Der Erlkonig fit here?
I guess around HR 6, maybe higher??? You have to do it for a longer amount of time
The octaves aren't the issue there, it's the repetition.
@@GSHAPIROYrepetition is part of the octaves difficulty
You chose a really s*** recording of the 2nd Hungarian Rhapsody.
Glissando octave should be somewhere in this ranking 🙈
Mereaux was kind of a sick F, huh?
Der Erlkönig by liszt?
I dont get the explaination of why Tchaikovskys PC being level 8...
there isnt one tbh lol
Let’s be real revolutionary etude in right doesn’t sound good at all
and piano concerto 3 rach is octave
For a Turkish march is ez so don’t even say it’s my dream bruv, I can already play nocturne op 9 no 2 bro rn
Ty
And now I can play moonlight
What about etude op25 no10 it’s literally called octaves
Yes
Spero mi rispondiate nel modo giusto..
NICE
hungarian rhapsody 6 wins because liszt
6 is easy for me though. 2nd rhapsody is way harder overall, but for the octaves it might be a bit easier.
In my opinion, Level 7 is already hard enough. But I think actually Level 10 is not harder than Chopin Octave Etude
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not a good list at all... try Scarlatti Sonata K 44 , Grieg/Ginzburg in the hall of the mountain king. Volodos Alla Turca...Least you got alkan, that's nice...but still...cziffra sabre dance...