2019 HELLCAT REDEYE WIDEBODY EXPOSING THIS SERIOUS RUST ISSUE VIDEO 2 OF 2
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- Опубліковано 17 лют 2019
- I was very surprised when installing rock guards on my new car when I noticed the amount of rusted suspension parts. This Video I go into extreme detail along with a explanation to my beliefs on what we are dealing with. Please LIKE, Subscribe and share this video. Thank you
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Won’t hurt a thing. If it bothers you, scuff it with scotchbright, shoot it with rustoleum and call it a day. I watched some of your vids on the Hellcat and agreed with you as far as the chassis issue and buyback but now chips in paint from normal driving and sticky tires, now some surface rust on the chassis? Sounds like you wouldn’t be happy with anything from any manufacturer. If it runs, rides, and drives like it should, spend a few hours fix the minor things that bother you and then enjoy your nice car. I had a 16 Hellcat and it was awesome, not perfect, but still awesome!!
I work at FCA assembly plant. They dont put them on with the rust on but they sit out in what we call the yard. Probably sat out in the yard with all the other cars for months with all the bad weather. Causing the rust
Man, if you purchase any car that was made in the winter, theres going to be rust. You leave your car outside while driving in the rain, your rotors will show rust the next day. Get some scotchbrite and wd40 and throw some elbow grease into scrubbing it off if you're soo worried.
One of the earlier posters said you made a mistake and ordered the Rust Eye package
Had to Laugh on that one, Ha Ha
Numan Newbern. Now that's funny.....
I'm a corrosion engineer in the oilfield but also know the SAE specifications on corrosion. That surface rust is normal even for a new car. You are looking at unfinished surfaces exposed to atmospheric condensation. High strength heat treated steel rusts faster and should remain uncoated. Unpainted surfaces next to galvanized fasteners are also subject to galvanic corrosion. You do not want to paint those surfaces or you will subject those surfaces to under-coating attack and premature failure. My 1956 Nomad came from the factory with a partially painted engine and an unpainted transmission. Normal production, and it has lasted 63 years so far. Even the Duesenberg chassis had a sloppy paint job with unpainted parts and surface rust. They were very expensive cars back in the day. They are now over restored million dollar cars now, so you don't see that. If you take this to court, I would be an expert witness for the defendant. You might want to study the SAE specifications on how rust is controlled in design, manufacture, and assembly.
THANK GOD. A higher thinking individual has posted. Everything pictured here is SURFACE RUST. Listen to the engineer!!!
Well then, when that day does come I will smile at you when you argue for FCA that everything is alright, it's perfectly normal, but when that big hammer comes slamming down, well then you will know.
@paul klein ua-cam.com/video/z_EeCAoWbBw/v-deo.html
Buddy those suspension parts are not normal to look like that. They have seen a long time in the elements and I also agree with Paul that they most likely have seen years of it. That crust does not happen over night and you don't build a new vehicle with shit like that.
Ive had 5 Srt’s and about 10 grand cherokees, they all have this. Its surface rust.
This is just nit picking.
Undercoat it or take the rusty parts off and have them powder coated. It’s a Dodge Challenger not a Ferrari. You pay for what you get.
the components you're pointing out as rusted are made out of a mild steel. from what i can see, it's all surface rust. i'm not sure what makes you think those parts have been out in the atmosphere or under water for 5-6 years. the nastiest bolt looks like it's maybe a year old.
i also don't see any surface galling on the bushings. you would expect to see that if they were pressed in while rusted.
you point out the head of one bolt, but the shaft of another and ask why they are rusted differently. first, you're pointing out bolts that may be of a different composition because they're on different parts of the car. but the issue is more likely that the anti corrosion film on the threads has been worn off because they were threaded through a nut. you'll also often see that the leading edges on the bolt heads have small spots of rust from contact with the driving tool.
to all of this, you might ask why do they not use stainless products in their suspension? mild steel tends to have a greater tensile strength and yield rate. that's something you want when it comes to components which are going to be put under the types of stresses you see in a suspension. because they're built in canada, i suspect they use metric grading. the bolts theyre using are probably an 8.8 or 10.9 class, depending on the metal theyre mating to. to get the equivalent tensile strength of those in stainless, youd probably have to go to an A4 bolt. that'd quintuple, at a minimum, just the price of the bolts.
aside from that, because of using dissimilar metals, they would have to take extreme care in whatever the bolts were fastening. you generally shouldn't be mating a stainless bolt into a mild steel component. it will cause corrosion and exacerbate what you think you're trying to make chrysler fix.
Nice to see a person take the time to explain it for him. The rust he is pointing out is completly normal for a production vehicle. Thanks for posting what i was thinking.
@@zfamgaming2120 However what if you don't have rust of your vehicles like that, never have. I'm in Colorado did once live in Michigan and shit rust fast there. Pretty dry here, I believe the UA-camr is in Las Vegas if I recall so it's dry there too.
@@Meekerextreme True, but the car wasn't built, stored, and shipped from Vegas. It may have been sitting in a lot in Canada for 3 months waiting to be shipped. It's called normal oxidation.
Omg it's bare metal! Bare metal will rust no matter if the car is parked in the garage or driven daily. And it is a Dodge. The metal will rust 10x faster on it! The parts you are pointing out are not coated in anything. They're bare metal! The bolts that have no rust are zinc coated. Zinc doesn't rust. Surface rust will not affect the bolts clamping force and is in no way dangerous as you put it. It really does sound like you're going after a buy back to me. I have a 2018 BMW M6 and I live in SC. The car has never seen the rain or snow is always parked in a heated/cooled garage under a cover and guess what? There's rust in those same exact places. It's part of having bare metal exposed to air. Have I complained? Not one bit! And that's on a $130,000 car. Quit complaining and just deal with it.
Hi Paul, it's good to make people aware. Yes the car is $90K and it should NOT BE ACCEPTABLE - they should at least fix the nut on the front suspension that is cracked bare minimum!!!
Paul I was with you with the whole lemon law car but man this is something else bro. I just feel like you're never going to be happy with anything. That's surface rust.
You ever see the hot side of a turbo? Starts to look like shit....but completely harmless.
Just enjoy the fact that you're able to afford a badass car....
Haywood Jablomie just constant bitching now
You're correct that the suspension is brought into BAP (Brampton Assembly Plant) as bolt on module. The module is supplied by TRW (St. Catharines, Ont.) as a tier 1 supplier to the OEM.
The corrosion spec. used calls for ASTM-B117 (Salt Spray Test). Per PS-508, E-coat Black @ 240 hrs - w/no visible orange rust. Per PS-79, Zinc-Dichromate yellow (bushings and bolts) @ 96hrs - w/no visible white rust.
The black E-coat is done on suspension parts for appearance only (as a class B surface) and does not affect the longevity or seviceability of the parts. The zinc dichromate parts could have seviceability issues if not properly treated at manufacture.
I believe that TRW does their own E-coat in house but sends the zinc out to a tier 2 sub-contractor (for which the tier 1 takes full QC responsibility). Seems that TRW is falling short as those parts should NOT be in that condition at this point.
That said, the failure mode observed would be regarded as a minor cosmetic / customer satisfaction issue. Onesies / twosies would be repaired on a "goodwill" basis by the OEM. But, if TRW has displayed a systemic problem with their process the OEM will smack their pee-pee, place them on a costly containment plan and threaten to forward warranty costs to them. At this point "goodwill" replacements will likely cease. Best you can get then is a wire brush treatment and some rattle-can tough coat from the dealership on TRW's dime.
I've seen your other vids and the troubles you've had and I feel you man. The Hellcat is a halo-car and it's just shit that this happened. But it really is a minor issue and, from an engineering standpoint, a rattle-can fix (done with care) is just as good as new parts.
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That car is built in ontario canada.... put on a truck and hauled down salt covered highways... no unsafe rust on that car...
Unacceptable.....$90,000 + for a car built with rusty parts.. it is not ok.
4 years later its a gd dodge at the end of the day its cheap shit just like any american car
For the amount of time it took to make this. You could have easily made a How to ... prep... coat clean these parts... and be good. wd40 ... undercoat.... ect...
Actually I would rather take the time and warn others of manufactures using shit materials to build cars,
The car was built in Ontario Canada. It was outside to be loaded on to the transport. Then it is being shipped to super dry Vegas heat. Just enjoy the car Paul!
They didn't put rusty parts on the car. I'm sure it's from salt spray during transportation. Metal bushings will begin to rust overnight if exposed to salt spray....but it still takes 10 to 14 years for them to rust out when exposed to salt on roads where I live...If treated that will be just fine.
Will you keep buying Dodge cars? They seem to be nothing but trouble
How long between build date till when you purchased it ? How many miles on it when you picked it up ? I agree the parts sat in a wire trainer out in the rain , the is no protective coating at all .
Have to ask what exactly was the problem with your 2017 hellcat I’m in the market for a use 16 or 17 think you said the alignment was bad pulled to the right ? Also totally agree you have 90,000 reasons to be disappointed I own an 09 Srt8 that looks like yours does now
I agree with you that It's not right, but I disagree that it is unsafe. Saying it is unsafe is going too far. Don't go that direction. Attack it from a quality control and customer expectation perspective.
You are starting to seem like a customer that can’t be made happy. Maybe you should switch to leasing cars.
How can he be happy with 2 quality control issues back to back? Would you? If so, we live in different worlds...
jkroner659 it’s like somebody that gets the wrong flavor refill on a soda then refuses to pay for his 40$ steak dinner.
Tim Watson honestly I hope your not in a customer service role in any capacity lol. Those 2 situations are not similar.
My 2018 Charger gets rust on the rotors when I don't drive it for a couple of days. I noticed it in the summer of 2018, I thought it was "normal" but you are RIGHT it is definitely NOT NORMAL .. does your lawyer recommend anyone in California? THANKS FOR THE VIDEO
Paul - I have a 2019 scatpack widebody on order and will be looking for this when I get it. If there is some surface rust found on the suspension parts, can something be done to help minimize it? WD40 or something until it can be fully addressed
Man I know Dodge hates to see this guy coming 😂😂🤣🤣
Everyone does! Lol
They probably don't mind that he's basically making a complete fool out of himself.
Poor cadmium plating on steel bushings. You can plainly see that it’s not powder coated nor was there cad plating. Straight up raw material exposed. I would clean it and corband 35 it or spray AV 30. FCA needs to CPC prolonged stored parts that are exposed to the elements.
As someone who works at a dealership in the rustbelt that aint shit. I was behind you in the lemon law vid, now you're just grasping at straws.
My same exact feelings. This is not a concern whatsoever. Any amount of moisture will cause all of this surface rust. I'm in northern Ohio and I would pray to work on this "rusty" car. There is absolutely nothing wrong here.
Id have to agree with Paul and most of the sane people that have commented, if i spend all that money on a car to have it delivered right to me that vehicle should not have any rust on it, those parts should be coated from the manufacturer to prevent those issues, obviously over time that coating will wear off and we as consumers then should be responsible for upkeep, my 2017 gmc canyon denali has 20,000 miles on it and doesnt have that kind of rust and that was driven through Idaho winters with salt and snow on the roads, my 2013 chrysler 300 doesnt have rust on my suspension, i also have a trackhawk on the way and if it comes with those issues i will not accept it if it has this issue, it should be their responsibilty to coat those parts not mine. I also went to go buy a charger hellcat for my fiance the other day and after seeing Pauls redeye in person the first thing i did was look under that charger and decided not to buy it because of the rust. Pauls pictures do not do the rust justice, its worse in person then in the pictures.
You may.not have rust on the suspension but if you look hard enough there is rust on parts under those vehicles. It's pretty much impossible not to.get some underneath. The frame is pretty.muxb the only thing to really worry about imo....
It’s surface rust. It’s fine. You seem to be losing yourself in your conspiracy theories.
Who doesn't know bare metal will rust in as little as days if any salt is in the air or on the roads
A $10 can of POR 15 will covert the surface rust and neutralize it. MY 06 SRT8 Charger had surface rust on the same parts, I had it for 10 years and 120k + miles. Had no problems.You forget these cars are built in Canada and sit in rail yards in places like Michigan and NY during the winter months once they get into the US before being shipped off. That amount of rust can happen in a short period of time.Just drive the car and enjoy it.
Looks like those parts came out of a rusty barrel sitting outside in the rain at the factory. Looks like some old parts from factory
These cars are manufactured in Canada. Your recieved your car while they are going through their winter. Snow and moisture in the air will rust bare metal in a matter of a couple of days. You live in Vegas. I'm from Vegas. Things dont rust in Vegas. That rust wont hurt a damn thing. Just remove the rust and prep the metal.
I guess I should check to see if mine is rusted out
My 2018 hc, had same issues with 20 km's on it. I put the rust convertor on all those parts. Now everthing is black. No new rust has shown since.
Dude, build your own car from scratch.
Talk about nit picky.
Dude is an IDIOT smh. Park your car in your living room and never drive it is what he will do
I saw cars like this all the time when they came off the carrier up here in the North East. that car came from the north on salty roads and will see that 100% of the time. After 8 hrs of sitting my car will show rust on the rotors. FCA will be laughing at you
This guy wouldn't last a minute up north. Bought a new car in November. Already have rust on driveshaft and suspension components.
So how do they fix it it? The bolt and nut are two different types of metals I believe.
My 2¢ - I would get the dealer or a service facility to document the rusty parts so you have a record of it in case it gets much worse. Even if you do get the mfg or dealer to replace the rusted parts, what makes you think the new parts won't rust ?
They will, after five years...
I have a Scat Pack that was special ordered in April and delivered in June of 2016. Upon delivery, my car had rust on suspension arms, bushings, and hubs similar to your Redeye but no where near as extensive. I just checked the bushings on mine, they have rust but no where near as much as yours. And mine in almost 3 years old. What mine does not have is severely rusted ball joint bolts like yours does. The coating on the suspension parts on my car is not good, the coating on yours is terrible, in some places there is no coating at all. The bushing on yours and mine do not appear to be coated at all. Since your car was special ordered I don't buy the "it sat in the yard" story.
The extensive rust on the ball joint bolts is troubling, possibly a safety issue. I would press to get them replaced under warranty. I disagree that the rust on the suspension components is a safety issue but agree it is unacceptable on $93K Redeye Hellcat. I would suggest that rather than purchase new suspension components (they will likely rust just as the originals did) that you remove, media blast, and paint the components. It will look sharp and give you the least rusty Challenger suspension on the road.
While I may disagree with you on the safety issue I am in agreement and sympathize with you that the undercarriage or your Hellcat should not appear as it does. Ironically I have been contemplating ordering an Indigo Blue Redeye Hellcat for several months. Your video won't dissuade me but if I order one I will give a minimal deposit and examine it on the lift before taking delivery. If it looks like yours they can put it back on the truck.
Good luck Paul.
In reality it's a $25,000 car. FCA isn't putting any extra special care into building a Hellcat vs a V6 SXT.
The plants in Canada are bad. Have raw metal parts sitting in a giant bin and are rusted and stuck together. You think they'd be soaked in oil. I cleaned the bin out and was about 15lbs of rust powder at the bottom
I'm curious if there was any updates...if dodge is going to cover the costs?
Who buys a dodge expecting top notch quality. Lol
Part of the problem is that the base you start with for the $96,000 car is the same base they make the $26,000 car with.
I hear your disappointment. All kinds of cars have those issues. I had a brand new 2012 Chevrolet Silverado pick up $48k . I went under it to do the first oil change and was shocked at the amount of surface rust . I put 120k on that truck with no issues at all .
Lol finally, someone else realizes that stock car parts are stock car parts. Every person you go to, will all tell you that their car made by X has rust on it. Saying that FCA is the only one with new car rust is just ridiculous and shows obvious bias.
And that's not to say the 2012 Silverado is a piece of shit right? I'm sure that truck is great for what it was made for. People need to realize, no matter what price, it's difficult to quality control every single inch of the undercarriage of a car, from the factory
I bought a new 2017 Silverado LTZ with off road Z-71 package. When I did my first oil change I found out that my pick up--with the off road package--has a plastic engine shield! The sticker on my truck was for over $52,000!
So the small circle inside of the rotor - that’s part of the hub, that isn’t the rotor itself. And talking about rotors coming from the factory coated in rust - chrysler rotors come coated in a grey material(You can even see it on the outside edge and inner diameter of the rotor where the pads never reach) to protect them during shipping and to break in the pads, I am a chrysler tech and EVERY rotor comes this way, if you see shiny rotors, then that means the pads have grabbed the rotor at least once. Once that shiny metal is exposed, rust will accumulate. I can park my car for a week outside with shiny rotors then come back to see rust, but that’s okay as it is just surface rust and when you brake for the first time the rust comes right off.
Is there not some kind of anti-corrosion coatings they could use ?
Speaking of rust how did you like the snow last night? Snow in the desert unreal, lol
You bought car that was delivered on a truck that drove though the Midwest in the middle of winter and it probably got soaked in brine for a week. How the fuck is that FCAs fault? I get it though, you got a taste of the spotlight with your first video and if you’re not whining you’re not relevant. I guess keep up the good work?
I have followed him since the first video and I personally have faith in Paul. He will give us an update and knows his stuff. He wouldn’t let his viewers down. Sometimes you can’t talk about things immediately once they reach a certain step.
I'd say the car hauler drove that down in a multi day constant spray from salty wet roads. And the car got soaked in salt. They will corrode almost immediately from salty wet roads. It's all about the quality of the steel. The higher grade bolts are less prone to rust than cheaper ones etc... The cheaper the steel (the more inferior the steel) the more it will rust. Porsche chassis and parts are hot dipped or something like that and also use a lot of galvanized, stainless, and aluminum parts. (no rust under my Boxster S) It is rare to see rust on higher end euro cars. Even if they are driven in the salt. Your car was made with cheap steel and forged components. And they weren't hot dipped, or coated at all. At the very least they should have a waxy spray coating to keep rust at bay for a few years. Get your new parts and the underbody of the car treated by a dealer that uses Krown rust preventer. May be hard to find in your area but common up north. Also you will have trouble bleeding your brakes and everything. My last Dodge Ram diesel was not old and rusted out bad. The dealer told me they could not bleed the brakes or adjust the headlight angle the parts were that rusty. It was 3 years old. Our 9 year old Volkswagon diesel Jetta has no rust under it anywhere and it is driven in the northeast and not treated with anything. The Euro cars have much higher quality metals and treatments. Think about the last time you saw a Jetta with the fenders rusted out (never) and the last time you saw a Ram truck with the fenders rusted out (literally every day here in PA). This is shitty. You have the right to be disgusted. I would be sick in my stomach to see that.
The Demon I ordered was delivered in mid Jan. 2018, it had a white residue (salt?)under the car and the same rust you described, I THOROUGHLY cleaned the undercarriage and wire wheeled all the rust off everything, it was all surface rust, used touch up to detail and a rust prevent on all the parts to keep the parts free of future rust. I knew what I had to do but I shouldn’t have to go to that extreme on a new car!
Yeah not for $20k, not for $40k, not for $90k. This should not be acceptable on a new car.
I just got 2019 Honda Accord 2 months ago it’s been driven in a lot of rain and it sits outside all the time looked under today still very new looking under there and zero rust nothing
The only problem you have is that its a Honda Accord. My sincere condolences.....
well for one... could be wrong but the RT bushing housing almost appeared to have a galvanized coating to it could be that they skimped out on that on the SRT. But I wouldn't say that I would expect that stock factory parts are that great anyway. But either way I would be upset too which is why my 08 car has been 1/2 apart in my garage for 3 years as I am repainting everything on it.
Understood
That's what happens when bare steel is exposed to H20, O2 and possibly chlorides. It's surface rust!
I guarantee you will find rust on a ferrari somewhere on the underpinnings after a few months of driving it.
These cars are transported across Canada. It's a couple months sometimes before they make it to the dealer. Sitting in our crap weather up here causes surface rust which is what that is.
Why are they made in Canada shouldn't it be made here
@@emiliolopez7644 not sure if it's actually made in Canada but its shipped from east to west through Canada.
Thanks for posting !!! I was ready to purchase a brand new Jeep Grand Cherokee, but now I’ll stick to my 2003 Tahoe with 232k miles. It’s rusty, but not costing me anything 😉
I have worked on various cars for over a decade. Having surface rust is completely normal. What I see here is surface rust. If you want to see rust issues go look underneath a car in Chicago. If you don’t want to see rust then you would need to apply some sort of undercoating like what people do in the salt belt. The car from what I have read is built in Canada so it’s certainly possible that could be rust from transporting. Just saying.
At the end of the day its the same 30k challenger with a bigger motor adding 60k to the price. your paying for the red dot. lol
That outter tie rod lock nut has been loosened too. Look at the paint stripe. It dont line up
Thank you for posting!!! I was going to buy a Dodge this weekend. been looking for a few weeks but not anymore!!!! I already
If FCA won't do nothing about the superficial rust, just take care of the rust yourself, it's not hard to fix.
This guy is ridiculous any car that gets wet at all this will happen it’s normal!!
Thats what i was sayin. Now he does live in vegas. So he might have a point. No rain there. & its a new car. But he kinda seems like kinda a idiot. Like the video of him bitching about the rock chips.
When you get the new parts do a video on them, also would be a good time to do the"precautionary" steps I mentioned earlier. Also would like to see that cracked component magnafluxed. If it is indeed cracked I think FCA and the NHTSA needs to get involved. There may be many more out there.
Question is this your first new car purchase?
Why dont you message scotty Kilmer
Rev your Toyota!
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I had a $109k 2009 Mercedes E63. Rotors would flash rust after a rainstorm or car wash within hours. Bushings would have surface within months but since they were consumable items, it never mattered because they were replaced with normal maintenance. As for your contention about this is not normal for a 'new car'. The car is only 'new' to you. It may have been built 4 months ago and sitting outside waiting to be shipped. If you're unhappy, sell the car. Otherwise, stfu and drive it.
They make gun metal spray you can put on those spots from time to time to keep them from rusting as well. REMINGTON ACCESSORIES REM OIL AEROSOL LUBRICANT 10 OZ $5 for a junk can at walmart or local sporting good store.
I have to agree with you Paul. I live in Wisconsin and we get that rust mighty quick on a brand new vehicle. But I would not be happy living in Las Vegas and have my brand new vehicle looking like that underneath. I was seriously thinking about buying a new Scat pack in the spring time, now I will think very hard about making that purchase. Thanks for this video.
@John Williams You can keep the rust in control pretty good for 6 or 7 years, but you have to wash off the salt every time you come home in the winter. Otherwise, it will start looking pretty ugly after just a couple of years.
I'm about to purchase a 2019 Challenger Scat Pack wide-body brand new I think part of my contingency will be to have it put on the lift and have rust inhibitor painted on all those parts I've used xtend I've seen other products out there that work it good as well
My 2015 Scat pack, my 2017 TA 392 and my 2019 hellcat, all brand new, all the exact same way. Drive the car, enjoy the car, it’s all warrantied.
Bought a 2020 hellcat 2 days ago brand new, it was build in October 2020. I looked under the car just to check it out and I have these rust spots too, the exhaust also, it definitely looks like it is covered with dust underneath( I live in SC, no salt over here). These cars are build in canada so they probably were transported through some crappy weather with salt all over the place. I’m gonna hose the undercarriage off and spray some wd40 on and be done with it. Was disappointed to see it though, especially after spending this much money.
Ive notice similar rust on the bushings on my 2011 Gt500 bushings as well, for some reason they don't coat the outside of the bushing. I believe painting might deterioate the bushing. I purchased aftermarket lower torque arms for the rearend and they had the same kind of bushing uncoated. Yes the manufactures are half assing coating the undercarriage to save a buck wich really sucks for the consumer.
So you get them to replace the parts and you get the same rust allover. Take it apart and get the components plated or corrosion treated.....aint gonna get fixed unless you do it.
So.... Did your lemon law attorney at least wait for you to leave his office before he laughed at you? Or did he laugh in your face?
Come on do u know anything about metals uncoated will rust in hours with any moisture dude sell it if u dont like it .by the way a judge would laugh u out of court
Right like wtf under the car looking at this. Like this dude b***hes about everything.
My 2010 Challenger R/T looked about the same as this car did when I bought it. I had little concern. Almost 8 years later, I was fixing the front end from all the potholes around here and looked over the car and it didn't look all that much different. The car was driven all year round for a little over 62K when I traded it for my Scat Pack. It's got rust on the suspension parts too, it's not a big deal and most other cars have it anyway. Doesn't matter who made it or where. If you're worried about it, get an extended warranty.
That's some good inspection you going to make everyone do a more thoro inspection
I know before I buy mine I'm definitely going to look under the car so thank you to the boss man $100,000 on a car I don't want no rust on my car. So thank you again
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$30,000 car with $70,000 in options lol
You are worried about nothing. The comparison to the 2015 is invalid - they use different components and materials.
I can watch my brake rotors rust on my 2015 SRT after a wash. If you don’t want the suspension to surface corrode then don’t drive it in weather.
I know you live in Las Vegas but have the parts been exposed to road salt or any type of saline air? Did u drive it to the coast?
Old stock has to go somewhere until its used up, your helping use it up, lucky you!
From my experience, all those bushings work as they should and will continue to do their function without being affected by the surface rust. This is all normal. Look underneath all the school buses, police cars, ambulances, all the cars on the road are like this. You have to learn to manage your OCD.
dude got a vigina...all the bitching he does
I’ve been anti Chrysler products for years and was seriously considering a Challenger, thanks for the reminder. I’ll stick with my boringly reliable Toyota’s.
Christian Friis Jespersen true man, my heart want a charger but my brain is tell me to get a boring reliable Toyota 😭
You def have a point and if its an issue to you then it needs to be addressed. With that said, its a simple fix....just get a rattle can of undercoating from your local NAPA store and give these areas a good coating. I live in Maine and I have to do this every year with our cars. My 2013 Jeep and 14 Sequoia have undercarriages that look new. I have an 18 Scat Pack that I store in the winter and do not drive in the rain. Not a spot of rust in the suspension.
Well... You just Made my descion to get the CTSV instead of the hellcat alot easier. So sorry your going thru all this man. Hope it gets better !
God.. I regret giving your videos my one extra view.. at first I thought what you did with the green challenger was called for, it seems like you genuinely had a bad experience but now you got your way and you're trying to get UA-cam famous through bashing dodge.. if you want Ferrari quality sue them again and go get one of those I suppose Haha but not trolling or "giving Hate" just my honest opinion.. maybe if I get my feelings hurt bad enough I'll be able to have my dream car too
Hunter Miller How about you go spend 93K on a car and find out the suspension is rusted and corroded beyond what anyone would accept on a brand new car - see how that makes you feel like
@@ThePaul1551 Thank you for your response. I'm sure you are completely aware how fast surface rust can pop up on open steel and how minor it is to clean off sure 93k is alot of money (not that I would know.) But I think when you buy a car like that the majority of the money is put into the performance not so much the aesthetic.. (not that I would know anything about that either) but with all that being said you are entertaining to watch I mean hell you made me watch like 47 minutes worth of your videos I guess the last one irritated me for some reason.. but thank you for taking the time to reply to your viewers that will go a long way for you and I guess if I'm being honest probably a little jelly of the cool cars you have Haha that's what I'm working towards.. only like $90k to go.. wish you the best of luck with getting that rust off
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Wow you’re a car dealer nightmare drive the car enjoy it
Thanks for the video Paul. I like the Red Eyes but after watching this I wouldn't buy one. I was just looking at Kerbeck Corvette inventory. They have 46 brand new 2019 ZO6 corvettes priced from 71k-87k. Not a bad deal for someone looking for a nice car.
did you get rid of the redeye for a lambo?
BubbaHoTep01 No, I’ve had that Lambo for 5 years
Oh Paul. Do you really think they care what you don't like? Answer == No!
"THAT'S NOT NORMAL" You're looking at a 2019 car and comparing it to a 2015 car. They save money where ever they can. The metal or the coating they are using in 2019 is totally different from what they used in 2015. So your statement "THAT'S NOT NORMAL" Is incorrect. It is normal for a 2019. Now, Is it right that it's that way? Answer == No.
I can't answer that part really. But I don't think so?
Yes. Everything you just videoed is just surface rust. Scrape, sand some off. You'll see that 99% of the rusted area's do not have pitting going on under the "surface" rust. I mean, how many of us told you "NOT" to buy another Dodge. But you went ahead and spent another 100k on another Dodge. Now you're not happy with the product you bought.
I wish you would have asked some of us if we would like to bet that you'll be happy with your new car. I'm pretty sure I would have taken that bet.
I'll also bet they don't leave them sitting outside for any length of time. They more than likely do assemble them then install as a unit. But outside for any length of time. I highly doubt it.
So what are you going to do now? If you go out and purchase all new parts that have no surface rust. Install them. A month or two down the road. They'll be rusted again! If you are going to replace all of them. Take them down to the powder coating place first. Powder coat them a stock silver. Them a few years down the road. They will look brand new. Just like a "Normal" 100k car should. Not a Dodge car. They will always be cheap somewhere. This is your "Where"
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Rolling on floor laughing you made a 1 hour video where you ramble on about the exact same stuff that you rambled on in the first video for a minute I thought you actually knew something about cars when you started talking about the upper and lower control arms and then you pointed at the rust on your brake rotor sing the fear has no rust on your brake rotor it is on your hub and it just started going downhill from there you started ranting on about if you drove through puddles and snow and left it outside there would be no rust on your brake rotor all your rust is surface only I I have seen the exact same amount of surface rust if not more on 2019 Chevy Corvette ZR1 which is $150,000 car depending on the package you have cheap end is $125000 I am an ASE Certified Technician at a Chevy dealership please before you make another video where you rant and rave on try to do some research also if you do a class action lawsuit please make sure it is video tape so I can see how hard the judge laughs it is understandable that you are ignorant about the rust that is under your vehicle but ignorance is no excuse when you won't listen to people that are trying to explain it to you
You are not as intelligent as you make yourself out to be, please seat yourself in your favorite sofa and watch how the future unfolds and sorry to break open your snowflake world
@@ThePaul1551 I was on your side with the first Hellcat debacle. And I thought you deserved better treatment then, but now. I think you're just a whiney bitch complaining about anything hoping to repeat your earlier success. FYI - you're not a crusader for justice. You're a dude that bought a car and had it lemon law'd. Join the masses and drop the 'I'm the smartest guy in the world' bit.
@@ThePaul1551 Rofl instead of trying to call me a snowflake or trying to say that I'm not intelligent you could try to prove me wrong the simple fact that you commented online comment it means you read through it and being an ASE certified technician means I do know what I'm talking about so please by all means sit down do your research and listen to your technicians don't go on a hour and 45 minute rant in 2 videos because you are only making yourself look on the intelligent and you seem like a very intelligent individual besides this video and the last one I do apologize if you don't like the truth being told in your comment section
Even VW/Audi sprays a thick wax layer underneath the cars to protect from surface rust…. FCA doesn’t have a leg to stand on
The quality of your character is refreshing, you must be born before the 90's lol
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So not right you are absolutely correct fuck all them people talking shit they obviously haven't spent that kind of money before I will be checking over my 2018 Camaro SS as soon as I can it's put up for the winter now but seeing this video makes me sick I can't believe this shit is going on 93k WOW not right
Show me a car with no surface rust... Bare metal will rust no matter what plain and simple.
The machined surfaces of the ductile iron parts could have at least been coated. They can get rusty real quick especially after pressure washes. But I agree, the bushing sleeves should have at the MINIMUM been Nickel plated with at most tiny rust lines showing from being pressed into the control arms at about 75,000 miles. That is quite a lot of money and corners are being cut.
I had the same issue with my 2013 challenger srt8 when I bought it new but I didn't think nothing of it. I guess I didn't know any better.