This hand is a good example of why we always consider pot odds. Do you agree with the decision? With the given action would you have expected to win this spot often enough to justify calling?
Absolutely easy call for the sole fact that at these levels the skill level is horrendous. River shove wasn’t purposely turning J9 into a bluff. I’m pretty sure there’s no real thought process there - it’s more “oh they all checked to me? Top pair? Ok all in!!” Then “uh oh… she’s about to call? Crap. I must be beat! Why didn’t I just check??” That’s the thought process (or lack thereof) at the low stakes. So yea… it’s a call esp given the pot odds.
@@craigs.t.3321 lol, that just about sums it up, he 100% was betting for that reason. It's really funny how the Button and the UTG were absolute opposite ends of the spectrum of low stakes ridiculousness.
The “spaz factor” is so underrated, especially at lower stakes. It’s so easy to apply logic to someone else’s thinking without taking into consideration their lack of experience and knowledge.
It’s why sometimes when they have a tiny number of value combos you need to call even if you can’t think of any bluffs…there’s always that chance they’re just going wild with some random hand.
I was watching the cash game championship stream happening on coinpoker yesterday, apparently back in the early 00’s this was referred to as “retard equity” lmao
@@JohnSmith-nx7zj as long as they don’t button click with something better. Had a hand where I iso’d from BTN with T9s, we went like 4 ways to K76, checked through, turn was a 5, I bet small, only BB called, river was a 9, he donked half pot, I called and he flipped over pocket jacks.
Villain didn't know he was bluffing when he jammed the river, he knew he lost because nothing worse calls his jam. It's a slight difference in mentality.
@@Mr.Muckington My exact thoughts 😂 Op just said “he bet the river thinking it was for value but knew he was beat when he was called.” How tf does that make any kind of sense 😂😂
I’m only on pre-flop action, but generally I don’t let the players behind me dictate on how I’m going to play my hand - unless there is only 1 player left to act behind me. There are too many variables once you add 2 or more players to act behind you. Just play your hand/range. This is a 3-bet with JJ all day; because I think most low stakes players have wider UTG opening ranges.
I’ll pretty much only do it on the button with a big hand if one or both the blinds are aggrofish. In the CO with a fish on the button you’re too often going to end up against a calling station out of position, which is far from ideal.
Caller gave the UTG credit and didn't want to be 4bet jammed. It's kinda a nit move to flat with pocket Broadways, but it's not a bad play. It's for pot control when you're in position and want to re-evaluate on the flop. The $45 flop bet was good enough to call as well, because you want to see if you can spike a 10. You never want a bloated pot with an overpair.
I always hate to put a player on a specific hand but after the flop C-bet and turn bet of the same amount on this texture of a board it screams AT (or something equivalent) where he’s naming his own price. The river fold supports this theory. Putting him on a big overpair in this exact setup seems wrong to me.
@@JeffreyHaefner people have capped ranges when they check. Utg just had like KTs ATs type of hand and has a victim mentality because he wants attention. Btn is a whale. Easy game.
Bart, you totally stole my word. I call that the "10% spazz factor". It is not uncommon that recs spazz bluff when a card pairs on the river that isn't supposed to be in their range.
Spaz Factor? It's like they know me! I think the button shoved for value in his mind. Top pair, lack of experience, checked to on river. Never occurs to him that no worse hand is going to call. Probably something I'd do in the heat of the moment when it's hard to think clearly.
Heads up on the turn you turn your hand into a bluff and raise the small sizing. With a guy behind me I probably sigh call and figure I'm losing the pot unless I spike a ten.
Jamming turn with blockers would not be a bad idea. As played hero got full value but if utg is folding a river jam he’s also folding a turn jam. Btn was probably jamming as a bluff here
Having reached the end of the call now…I’m calling this one. Almost all of the value raises flop or turn. Hero’s hand blocks JT. Hero is getting over 3 to 1. There’s the random spaz factor. And finally, I could imagine some low stakes players that do get to the river with (say) 87 not realising that their hand now loses to overpairs.
This caller sounds like the type of person who is 3-betting only AA, KK, QQ, and AK suited pre-flop in this specific setup. Caller - if you’re seeing this comment, you can’t be afraid of monsters under the bed. You have to 3-bet with weaker hands - broadway cards, suited connectors, and AX suited hands. Otherwise people can narrow your range so much that you become too readable. You lose out on value.
Dude, they're playing a fishy 2/3 game only 80 BB's deep. There's no need to balance the 3-bet range and no lost value. GTO and balance are almost meaningless at low these stakes.
@@noex100 when i am i live, I can notice how tight a person is playing to the point where i narrow their range down to AA, KK, or AK suited, and i can truly punish them for all their money when i make a decent hand because i know EXACTLY what they 3-bet with.. on the other hand, against a player who is 3-betting properly, i can't get as much value, and I sometimes Value OWN myself against them, because their range is wider.
When you say low stakes players arent turning pair plus straight draw into a bluff, it’s for good reason, cause no one is folding JJ on the river here for this sizing with these odds
These people just bet once everyone shows weakness. Button is a moron and thinks he has the best hand, he's not bluffing, he's just absolutely unaware of what's happening.
Yeah agreed. He bets because everyone checks to him and he has top pair. Then when he’s called he realises he’s always beaten. I remember doing this very early in my poker playing days, basically because I felt like an idiot if I checked behind and then had the best hand, even though no worse hand would call me.
IDK why Bart, or the comments section doubts the UTG claim here. No one would fake getting pissed off, and then state to the whole table that they're a big pussy who folded Aces unless it was true. Random 2-3 player is not trying to project a false image. He folded Aces, because "All In" is "A lot of Money" ... and that 4 put out straights and full houses out there! It's an outlier play as most low stakes players aren't this horrible, but doubting his claim is too misunderstand low stakes psychology.
@@imonoke7903 She sure was an old nit this hand. It won her the max despite having only 2 outs the whole time, not hitting them, and not being the cause of the better hand folding, despite having 2 or 3 chances to do so.
Funny how preflop she appeared to be on top of what everyone's stack was, and understood effective stack. But on the turn, UTG went from having $64 more than the button, to having either $109 or $154 more than button, depending upon whether she meantr he had $240 (vs $131 for button) before/after his $45 bet.
I could see the villain who jammed river having 77 or 88 and was afraid of the straight but then boated up. I haven't heard the reveal yet but that is my take.
I did watch that video. Hungry Horse is a sick player ngl, but Charlie is also rating people in a " who should you try to learn from" ranking system, not necessarily how good he thinks they are at the game right. At least I thought that's what he said at the start of his video. Also he prefers explotitive play styles over gto so that plays into it as well.
@@andrewadams530 It is clear to me that Bart wants people to learn something, and I am sure that I learn a lot from these callins. That makes it quite interesting to see what Charlie would say about Bart, as viewed from his same vantage point. And of course in turn to learn what Bart has to say about Charlie.
@@tommyrjensen yea agreed 100%. I think it would be cool for Charlie to do Bart next in his series. It does seem like he does some somewhat random people imo.
@@andrewadams530 Except I suppose it would not really work if Charlie insists on only rating vloggers who comment on their own hands. That would not apply to Bart I think.
987 is a horrible flop for JJ. You're only ahead of one pair bigger than 66, namely TT. TT has a better draw than you, and with nobody folding even Tx, counting the two remaining jacks as outs is somewhere on the spectrum of dangerous to insane.
Born and raised in NE. No one here came up with the term “out to lunch” I’ve been hearing it my entire life 😂 As played jam turn, you have outs versus his over pairs and there’s a good chance he has tens and calls you off.
The pot size bet on the flop and same bet on turn is very indicative of AA or KK in lower stakes like this. The player feels they have to bet something on turn but are afraid to size up. On the flop the player is about a 3:1 dog to an over-pair; and getting 2:1. So they have to ask: can they make another $45 if they hit? That made me think, what about a min-raise on the flop here? It probably shuts out the button and stops the utg player cold. Then you can take a free card on turn if you like.
I've played for 35 years. I also dealt in Houston underground games for a year once trying to get out of the poker hospital. My biggest takeaway from dealing is this. The lower the stakes, the more sure the players are of putting people on hands, after the cards are turned up. Some 1/2 players are so specific. " I put you on AdJc all along. While at the 25/50 PLO and HL tables the table talk was more like, " I was afraid you might have AJ but I was hoping it was something worse".
I mean no preflop raise is just poor at this level you just wanna make the raise. But yeah I'm definitely just calling flop but I think I jam turn to drive the UTG out. I don't see how he can make the call to that big raise when you consider hero's image, the pot odds you get, a jam to 2 people in an overbet flop, I think you steal this one from the UTG. Now the BTN having so little behind I think would raise if he already had a straight on the flop, so as Bart said he probably has those pair+straight draw hands. I considered that maybe he has like 87 for two pair but he probably raises that too on the flop because he has a lot of bad turn cards to see. So I think you steal this one, it was really obvious with the turn size-down that UTG had an overpair to you, which I think he folds all day because he isn't comfortable betting for value anymore on the turn. I think on the river I call because of the pot odds.
I’ll point out the obvious, UTG definitely didn’t fold AA. I don’t know why but low stakes players, especially the ones who fancy themselves as $2/$3 pros, lie about folding AA more than any other hand.
@Mr.Muckington I once dealt to some 1/2 players who successfully called players hand, after the cards are turned up, specific to the suit. " I knew you had AsJd !!° I also dealt 25/50 PLO pot limit and 50/100 in Houston. They would say, " I was afraid you might have AJ but I was hoping you had worse ".
That's not obvious. People get skittish all the time with one pair (even the best pair) and look for excuses to fold. There are 2 ways that bad players play aces, they act like they are made of granite and indestructible or they are made of tissue paper and always going to be cracked. It's plausible and normal for people to fold to all ins there. And I suspect, just like this particular hand, all those other times you also have zero evidence other than your feels about what hand he had.
Do you know anything about LA casinos? Heading there in a few months to grind some live but I want a decent atmosphere if I'm gonna be in there for 30+ hours a week. So far all I've been told is to avoid Hustler but don't know if that's true.
@@Fred-rg5vw yep perfect river for an over pair. And what’s more wild is that he then folded hahahahahahahagahaga. “Tell me you suck at poker without telling me you suck at poker” utg player should just quit poker for life 😂
RIP Poker this is why games are so fkn bad and tight right now, you are afraid of giving a REC PLAYER $131 LOL that is absolutely who you give the money to not taking shots at the caller but anyone who was saying this is a fold / so weak tight the games today, its so boring
Hahahaha he folds aces?!????? The players at Sycuan are SO bad and very small stakes players. Zero pros play there bc games r so small and usually weak tight.
@pot_kivach160 nah. He wouldn't have gotten mad with 10s. Plus, 10s blocks the straight. If he isn't being honest, maybe an over pair or ak. I see a lot of people get angry with ak.
@@michaelstephens9852 two 10s block straight (??) So, 2 cards can block the two other of the same kind cards to show up??This is against elementary school algebra! Where did you learn that? I mean what poker school teaches that crap and be able to sell it?
This hand is a good example of why we always consider pot odds. Do you agree with the decision? With the given action would you have expected to win this spot often enough to justify calling?
@@CrushlivePoker SNAP CALL. Easiest call ever. Especially after we check river. Glad UTG didn’t call.
Yeah easy call .
Absolutely easy call for the sole fact that at these levels the skill level is horrendous.
River shove wasn’t purposely turning J9 into a bluff. I’m pretty sure there’s no real thought process there - it’s more “oh they all checked to me? Top pair? Ok all in!!” Then “uh oh… she’s about to call? Crap. I must be beat! Why didn’t I just check??”
That’s the thought process (or lack thereof) at the low stakes. So yea… it’s a call esp given the pot odds.
@ yea and also bc of the no raise on the button on the flop or turn 🎯
@@craigs.t.3321 lol, that just about sums it up, he 100% was betting for that reason. It's really funny how the Button and the UTG were absolute opposite ends of the spectrum of low stakes ridiculousness.
I like how caller explains her thinking. Straight to the point, no bs.
Solid thought process. Would be damn proud if my mom/grandma was able to think through hands like this.
shit I'd be proud if I could! 😂
I would like to hear more calls from this lady
Lady knows what she is talking about. I would not get out of line vs this lady.
"is there another man in your life named Marc?" 😂
Yes, yes there is... 😊
I listened to it ten times and couldn't understand her reply. Was she just calling Bart the wrong name?
@@branchtana315no, sure was talking about Marc Goone (@hungryhorsepoker).
@@branchtana315no, she’s referring to Marc from the hungry horse youtube channel, another live cash poker content creator.
Button should have gone all in on the turn.
If I'm in that table and a guy says "I folded aces" I'd just say "Yeah, me too"
“Button has roughly $131” 😂😂😂 that’s as specific as it gets lady
The “spaz factor” is so underrated, especially at lower stakes. It’s so easy to apply logic to someone else’s thinking without taking into consideration their lack of experience and knowledge.
It’s why sometimes when they have a tiny number of value combos you need to call even if you can’t think of any bluffs…there’s always that chance they’re just going wild with some random hand.
I was watching the cash game championship stream happening on coinpoker yesterday, apparently back in the early 00’s this was referred to as “retard equity” lmao
@@JohnSmith-nx7zj as long as they don’t button click with something better. Had a hand where I iso’d from BTN with T9s, we went like 4 ways to K76, checked through, turn was a 5, I bet small, only BB called, river was a 9, he donked half pot, I called and he flipped over pocket jacks.
@@natejohnson3638 well yeah they can also be doing it with something better. But if you’re getting pot odds it can still tip a call over to a fold.
Villain didn't know he was bluffing when he jammed the river, he knew he lost because nothing worse calls his jam. It's a slight difference in mentality.
How can u not know your bluffing when you know you lose when called? 😂
I think I agree. He realized he was bluffing when hero made the call.
Maybe he thought 109 would call?
@@convictions181 that doesn't even make sense. It's value or a bluff. If you know it's not value when called its a bluff obviously.
@@Mr.Muckington My exact thoughts 😂 Op just said “he bet the river thinking it was for value but knew he was beat when he was called.” How tf does that make any kind of sense 😂😂
5:30 Bart's determination to push through + not clear his throat is a True Testament to his focus 🙌
I actually enjoyed listening to her talk poker.
Folding aces on that runout is criminal.
@@joncorb540 yea idk that's even possible with stack sizes unless your a super noob or you arrived at the casino on the short bus
He certainly did not have AA.
I’m only on pre-flop action, but generally I don’t let the players behind me dictate on how I’m going to play my hand - unless there is only 1 player left to act behind me. There are too many variables once you add 2 or more players to act behind you. Just play your hand/range. This is a 3-bet with JJ all day; because I think most low stakes players have wider UTG opening ranges.
I’ll pretty much only do it on the button with a big hand if one or both the blinds are aggrofish.
In the CO with a fish on the button you’re too often going to end up against a calling station out of position, which is far from ideal.
Caller gave the UTG credit and didn't want to be 4bet jammed. It's kinda a nit move to flat with pocket Broadways, but it's not a bad play. It's for pot control when you're in position and want to re-evaluate on the flop. The $45 flop bet was good enough to call as well, because you want to see if you can spike a 10. You never want a bloated pot with an overpair.
“Out to lunch” is a thing. It means crazy… “this guy must be out to lunch calling with that hand”
Utg is pissed because he probably folded TT. Had he called JJ would fold. The whole hand is fishy typical 1/3
I always hate to put a player on a specific hand but after the flop C-bet and turn bet of the same amount on this texture of a board it screams AT (or something equivalent) where he’s naming his own price. The river fold supports this theory. Putting him on a big overpair in this exact setup seems wrong to me.
Why? When you practice this over and over it gives you a huge advantage narrowing the range to a specific hand or two.
Call 15 pre
Call 45 flop
Call 45 turn
XC 130 river for 1/3 pot.
Why is this hard on 98744?
@@RunItTw1ce4858 was like a basic elementary hand lol
But hey it’s Sycuan, what else do we expect lol. 2/3 is the biggest game they’ll have 99% of the days.
@@JeffreyHaefner people have capped ranges when they check. Utg just had like KTs ATs type of hand and has a victim mentality because he wants attention. Btn is a whale. Easy game.
Bart, you totally stole my word. I call that the "10% spazz factor". It is not uncommon that recs spazz bluff when a card pairs on the river that isn't supposed to be in their range.
Did Pechenga close its poker room? I used to love going there.
Yes it did. I played there many times.
Shoutout Marc Goone
Spaz Factor? It's like they know me!
I think the button shoved for value in his mind. Top pair, lack of experience, checked to on river. Never occurs to him that no worse hand is going to call. Probably something I'd do in the heat of the moment when it's hard to think clearly.
Heads up on the turn you turn your hand into a bluff and raise the small sizing. With a guy behind me I probably sigh call and figure I'm losing the pot unless I spike a ten.
I don't believe utt folded AAs, you just know JJ is best on the river so either trapping or bad play.
My grade school biology teacher always said kids were out to lunch. Dr. Diangelo - great guy who recently passed away.
Can't get effective stacks term usage correct is wild to me
Jamming turn with blockers would not be a bad idea. As played hero got full value but if utg is folding a river jam he’s also folding a turn jam. Btn was probably jamming as a bluff here
Bart is unintentionally the funniest person ever
Having reached the end of the call now…I’m calling this one.
Almost all of the value raises flop or turn. Hero’s hand blocks JT. Hero is getting over 3 to 1. There’s the random spaz factor. And finally, I could imagine some low stakes players that do get to the river with (say) 87 not realising that their hand now loses to overpairs.
22:40 First time hearing about 'Really Thick Nuts' 😮
This caller sounds like the type of person who is 3-betting only AA, KK, QQ, and AK suited pre-flop in this specific setup. Caller - if you’re seeing this comment, you can’t be afraid of monsters under the bed. You have to 3-bet with weaker hands - broadway cards, suited connectors, and AX suited hands. Otherwise people can narrow your range so much that you become too readable. You lose out on value.
Dude, they're playing a fishy 2/3 game only 80 BB's deep. There's no need to balance the 3-bet range and no lost value. GTO and balance are almost meaningless at low these stakes.
@@noex100 when i am i live, I can notice how tight a person is playing to the point where i narrow their range down to AA, KK, or AK suited, and i can truly punish them for all their money when i make a decent hand because i know EXACTLY what they 3-bet with..
on the other hand, against a player who is 3-betting properly, i can't get as much value, and I sometimes Value OWN myself against them, because their range is wider.
@supersmoo7377 But not in games that play 80 BBs deep. In those super-shallow live games you cant really "punish" unbalanced players.
When you say low stakes players arent turning pair plus straight draw into a bluff, it’s for good reason, cause no one is folding JJ on the river here for this sizing with these odds
These people just bet once everyone shows weakness. Button is a moron and thinks he has the best hand, he's not bluffing, he's just absolutely unaware of what's happening.
Yeah agreed. He bets because everyone checks to him and he has top pair. Then when he’s called he realises he’s always beaten.
I remember doing this very early in my poker playing days, basically because I felt like an idiot if I checked behind and then had the best hand, even though no worse hand would call me.
@JohnSmith-nx7zj absolutely what happened
If i have Mary Beth's image, this turn is such a perfect shove spot.
IDK why Bart, or the comments section doubts the UTG claim here. No one would fake getting pissed off, and then state to the whole table that they're a big pussy who folded Aces unless it was true. Random 2-3 player is not trying to project a false image. He folded Aces, because "All In" is "A lot of Money" ... and that 4 put out straights and full houses out there! It's an outlier play as most low stakes players aren't this horrible, but doubting his claim is too misunderstand low stakes psychology.
This is the way. Pretty clear to me.
It's a snap call, the 9 J is anything but shocking and the guy who shoved took MB as an old nit because she is.
Shes not
@@imonoke7903 She sure was an old nit this hand. It won her the max despite having only 2 outs the whole time, not hitting them, and not being the cause of the better hand folding, despite having 2 or 3 chances to do so.
@@EfficientRVer2 outs? Check your math, buddy.
Funny how preflop she appeared to be on top of what everyone's stack was, and understood effective stack. But on the turn, UTG went from having $64 more than the button, to having either $109 or $154 more than button, depending upon whether she meantr he had $240 (vs $131 for button) before/after his $45 bet.
how can anyone be surprised by any play at 1/2 or 1/3?
Questionable logic but I think she played the hand perfectly
This seems to be really short stacks for 2/3 blinds.
I thought UTG had something like A10 and button something like 96
I could see the villain who jammed river having 77 or 88 and was afraid of the straight but then boated up. I haven't heard the reveal yet but that is my take.
I know this game very well 👍🤑👍
the pot is 180 on the turn. she's getting exactly 4:1, and her equity is 22%, against AA-QQ.
her equity is 1/2 of that on the turn with 6 outs. You maybe thinking of with 2 cards to come
is it just me or is there crazy audio desync in this vid?
The caller is sweet, but she’s definitely playing the way I’d profile her at my table.
I would absolutely love to play a table filled with Mark Goon students
Did he really said the real thick nuts? When reference to just the blocker J
A Mark Goon fan, eh? Did you notice that Charlie Carrell rates Hungry Horse over Gary Blackwood? Maybe we can ask Charlie to rate Bart Hanson?
I did watch that video. Hungry Horse is a sick player ngl, but Charlie is also rating people in a " who should you try to learn from" ranking system, not necessarily how good he thinks they are at the game right. At least I thought that's what he said at the start of his video. Also he prefers explotitive play styles over gto so that plays into it as well.
@@andrewadams530he also had a ranking for who is good at poker hhp was still s tier
@@andrewadams530 It is clear to me that Bart wants people to learn something, and I am sure that I learn a lot from these callins. That makes it quite interesting to see what Charlie would say about Bart, as viewed from his same vantage point. And of course in turn to learn what Bart has to say about Charlie.
@@tommyrjensen yea agreed 100%. I think it would be cool for Charlie to do Bart next in his series. It does seem like he does some somewhat random people imo.
@@andrewadams530 Except I suppose it would not really work if Charlie insists on only rating vloggers who comment on their own hands. That would not apply to Bart I think.
Marc’s got first name recognition. He’s like Jesus.
Marybeth has found herself a great game
Id call
I had an inexperienced player spaz out on me the other day…he bet 94o for value with 2nd pair
We know live poker is dying when 2/3 players are turning top pair into a bluff on the river 😂
Lol!. When he shoved I put him on I9.! Crazy.
Aces? lmao....I gotta find this card room.
987 is a horrible flop for JJ. You're only ahead of one pair bigger than 66, namely TT. TT has a better draw than you, and with nobody folding even Tx, counting the two remaining jacks as outs is somewhere on the spectrum of dangerous to insane.
Born and raised in NE. No one here came up with the term “out to lunch” I’ve been hearing it my entire life 😂
As played jam turn, you have outs versus his over pairs and there’s a good chance he has tens and calls you off.
its possible he had AA and misplayed the turn. I can see folding it in his position.
The pot size bet on the flop and same bet on turn is very indicative of AA or KK in lower stakes like this. The player feels they have to bet something on turn but are afraid to size up. On the flop the player is about a 3:1 dog to an over-pair; and getting 2:1. So they have to ask: can they make another $45 if they hit? That made me think, what about a min-raise on the flop here? It probably shuts out the button and stops the utg player cold. Then you can take a free card on turn if you like.
I've played for 35 years. I also dealt in Houston underground games for a year once trying to get out of the poker hospital.
My biggest takeaway from dealing is this.
The lower the stakes, the more sure the players are of putting people on hands, after the cards are turned up. Some 1/2 players are so specific. " I put you on AdJc all along.
While at the 25/50 PLO and HL tables the table talk was more like, " I was afraid you might have AJ but I was hoping it was something worse".
Big mistake just calling pf with jacks i would of bumped it up to 60
He 4 bets u go all in
UTG had AK 100%
I mean no preflop raise is just poor at this level you just wanna make the raise.
But yeah I'm definitely just calling flop but I think I jam turn to drive the UTG out. I don't see how he can make the call to that big raise when you consider hero's image, the pot odds you get, a jam to 2 people in an overbet flop, I think you steal this one from the UTG. Now the BTN having so little behind I think would raise if he already had a straight on the flop, so as Bart said he probably has those pair+straight draw hands. I considered that maybe he has like 87 for two pair but he probably raises that too on the flop because he has a lot of bad turn cards to see. So I think you steal this one, it was really obvious with the turn size-down that UTG had an overpair to you, which I think he folds all day because he isn't comfortable betting for value anymore on the turn.
I think on the river I call because of the pot odds.
I like her
I’ll point out the obvious, UTG definitely didn’t fold AA. I don’t know why but low stakes players, especially the ones who fancy themselves as $2/$3 pros, lie about folding AA more than any other hand.
2 3 pros lol
@Mr.Muckington I once dealt to some 1/2 players who successfully called players hand, after the cards are turned up, specific to the suit. " I knew you had AsJd !!°
I also dealt 25/50 PLO pot limit and 50/100 in Houston.
They would say, " I was afraid you might have AJ but I was hoping you had worse ".
Fancy play syndrome is a loser at low stakes.
@@OneOut1 why did u write that? Lol
That's not obvious. People get skittish all the time with one pair (even the best pair) and look for excuses to fold. There are 2 ways that bad players play aces, they act like they are made of granite and indestructible or they are made of tissue paper and always going to be cracked. It's plausible and normal for people to fold to all ins there. And I suspect, just like this particular hand, all those other times you also have zero evidence other than your feels about what hand he had.
Used to deal at Sycuan. The poker players in Cali are so rude to the dealers.
Do you know anything about LA casinos? Heading there in a few months to grind some live but I want a decent atmosphere if I'm gonna be in there for 30+ hours a week.
So far all I've been told is to avoid Hustler but don't know if that's true.
@ yea commerce is great. Played there a lot. Haven’t played a ton in LA tho. Played at seven mile in Chula Vista, solid games there but a small room.
@@JeffreyHaefner cool, thanks. I have been leaning towards Commerce for no real reason so that's good to hear.
I dont think its a difficult spot at all, tbh. You get over 3:1 and you'll never have a better hand than JJ here. Besides, his line doesnt make sense.
Lol at pic in thumbnail..caller didnt sound like she was 84 yrs old
At my level I'm checking to induce the button to bet and drive utg off his hand then snap calling.
At low stakes, everyone is a fish until proven otherwise.
J9 is a good bluffing candidate by villain. Blocks nut straight AND nines full
Mary Anne ... Mary Beth ... What's in a name Bart?
This table must have been great to play on.
What a cringy skill level at 2/3.
this is what happen when all (3) parties involved play their hands wrongly.
This. Although I think this is the case in a good percentage of hands at this level. I know I play most of my hands wrong at this level.
He folded 7-8
Really under the gun woulda checked aa or kk on river ?
Even i bet there and im an omc.
And then he folded lol.
Where do tou find donkeys like this ?
@@Fred-rg5vw yep perfect river for an over pair. And what’s more wild is that he then folded hahahahahahahagahaga. “Tell me you suck at poker without telling me you suck at poker” utg player should just quit poker for life 😂
Mary Beth doesn’t understand poker. She is using phrases she knows and has heard but she doesn’t understand poker
He didn't have aces. He had shit. Probably a 10
Ellen Degeneres on the call I didnt even know she played poker lol
RIP Poker this is why games are so fkn bad and tight right now, you are afraid of giving a REC PLAYER $131 LOL that is absolutely who you give the money to not taking shots at the caller but anyone who was saying this is a fold / so weak tight the games today, its so boring
Hard to think of a better bluff candidate than J9 tbh and I would start reevaluating if this guy is a rec 😂
Hahahaha he folds aces?!????? The players at Sycuan are SO bad and very small stakes players. Zero pros play there bc games r so small and usually weak tight.
he was joking about 2/3 pros.
It was sarcasm
She dodged a bullet with the BB bluff shove. Filed under the "people are goofy". That is why we play against humans.
Is it me or is Ellen Degeneres calling this hand in as “MaryBeth”
Says east county like you're supposed to know which east county exactly XD Typical Californian.
"I folded aces." Congratulations, sir. You made a fold with great pot odds.😂
nah. He had folded TT.
@pot_kivach160 nah. He wouldn't have gotten mad with 10s. Plus, 10s blocks the straight. If he isn't being honest, maybe an over pair or ak. I see a lot of people get angry with ak.
@@michaelstephens9852 two 10s block straight (??) So, 2 cards can block the two other of the same kind cards to show up??This is against elementary school algebra! Where did you learn that? I mean what poker school teaches that crap and be able to sell it?
@@pot_kivach160 TT is a losing hand. Why would he be mad about folding the second best hand? Do you people even think about what you are saying?
@pot_kivach160 Thanks for gibberish. Wtf was that. 😂
This is an example of 3 players misapplying concepts from their study. It is interesting how many are trying to play like Marc Goone.
Marc’s concepts are good at 200bb+ deep. Gonna go broke playing like that at 1/3 with 300-400 stack
@@pokerqAK47 the whole point of Marc's challenge is to prove what can be done at low stakes, but he found a high stakes game with a $5 big blind.
I’m not Marc goone sucks 6k on Hendon mob I have 90k
You did not come up with the term ‘out to lunch’. You do this every so often claiming you invented a term and more often than not it’s just not true.
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Ya I heard that saying alot.😊
i bet you ask to see the manager a lot don’t you.
I love when someone comes in to just deliver that epic roast. Well done, man. Truly epic
You must be very fun at parties
No more 1-3/ 2-3 call ins for 2025 please 🎉🎉🎉 this was unbearable
Turns out everyone lost to the rake. (Also, jam the flop with jacks)
Both of those things are wrong
They’d lose to the rake if they chopped 3 way 😂 what are you even talking about
"out to lunch" does mean clueless. and "Out of left field" means unexpected, odd, or strange.