beat me to it. i remember seeing the story on another channel and tearing up because of how sweet the farmer was regarding the situation, and how everyone was paying the utmost respect. i feel like i remember hearing that the farmer was a fan of him, too, or some kind of other coincidental relation. might be wrong, though
This and Helios Flight 522 give me chills to think about. A plane cruising overhead, everyone on board is either incapacitated or dead due to lack of oxygen. If you saw this plane flying above, you might just think it's a normal flight when in reality you're staring at a flying tomb.
or, most likely in the most recent case, the pilot had a heart attack and the passengers are in back asleep, totally unaware that anything is wrong, and probably never become aware until the plane smacks the ground
There are other stories of decompression and it's genuinely horrifying when it's slow, hearing on the CVR the confused crew slowly and unknowingly dying and the reports of fighter jets saying that everyone was as still as a statue. Peaceful-ish but very grim way to die
Hypoxia seems to be a major issue with smaller jets like these. This 1999 accident wasn’t the only one. With one in 2022 involving a Cessna 550 citation which spiraled out of control and crashed into the Baltic Sea after both engines flamed out due to fuel exhaustion and another incident in June 2023 involving yet another Cessna 550 citation which spiraled out of control and crashed in Virginia after both engines failed from fuel exhaustion
There was another instance in... the late 90s/early 2000s I think, where a plane flying to the West Australian goldfields decompressed and ended up crashing somewhere in eastern Queensland. I was acutely aware of that one because the father of a friend of mine at the time was on the plane.
I was in high school when this happened and played on the golf team. Payne Stewart was a great guy and it was a terrible tragedy for the world of golf to lose him to such a freak accident.
Just say "you" instead of "people". People don't say that; you say that. People aren't stupid enough to fall for that level of gullible horseshit; it's just you.
I'm like 99% certain that the pressurization system never engaged in the first place, considering how soon they lost contact. Also, if it were a sudden loss of pressure, surely there'd have been immediate attempts to descend. This sounds more like they stuck her on autopilot and unknowingly climbed without pressurization, gradually falling unconscious.
Apparently the checklists were poorly written Most checklists for loss of cabin pressure start off with putting on oxygen masks (as you don’t have much time until you lose consciousness), but apparently on this plane that item was much further along in the checklist The checklist apparently put troubleshooting first (oxygen masks should be the very first thing, then perhaps some troubleshooting after levelling off, and if that doesn’t work, then begin a decent, large jets don’t immediately begin a decent following loss of cabin pressure, there are other steps done first, which includes troubleshooting) Frosted windows is generally a sign of rapid depressurisation
This just re occurred here In Maryland. One f-16 went supersonic over the state to track an unresponsive private plane. It crashed into the Virginia woods with 4 losses. I believe this may be a case very similar here. I’m sure they also had a rapid decompression.
It doesn't have to be rapid, slow decompression is actually probably more dangerous because when rapid decompression happens you know it happened because the entire cabin will fill with fog. Slow decompression will sneak up and you won't even know you're running out of oxygen, you'll just start feeling euphoric and giggly almost like being drunk and if you don't recognize it right away then it's probably too late because your brain is already lacking oxygen.
Just a note, we know it wasn't explosive decompression but we can't be sure whether it was sudden or gradual. Had it been explosive, the plane would neither have been fully intact during the intercepts nor would it have made it all the way to the site of the crash as explosive decompression means the fuselage has actually opened up.
Aaaaahhhh - What a treat! I’m in bed, just finished texting my way who is away for the weekend and I’m about to try and get myself to sleep somehow… Qui r is so soothing and somehow familiar that it calms down regardless of the topic.
Canadian here i remember this, the government was setting up a bunch of fireworks to knock the plane out of the sky......as we have no airforce to complete with that private jet.
I vaguely remember news of an identical scenario couple months ago. Travelling northeast over spain france germany and finally downward spiral over baltic sea
Could you please make a video on the 1993 World Trade Center bombings? Many people talk about 9/11 but at least in my country very few are aware of the previous bombing attempt taken on the towers.
If you are interested in this topic please check the accident of Helios Airways, flight 522 on 14th Of August 2005,on a routine flight from Larnaca via Athens to Prague .The tragic loss of this plane with 121 people on board.
5:39 Does anyone else find it almost harrowingly nihilistic that this plane was seemingly designed in such a way that as soon as it detected the fuel running completely dry, it shut itself off without any need for input from a human whatsoever? It feels like some A.I. that saw the end was coming, knew there was no longer any chance for rescue or recovery, and just said, "Peace Out, homies. Deuces!"
Would it be possible for a heavy lift aircraft with a huge net below it to catch up with out of control planes closer to when they are running out of fuel and catch them with the net mid-air, allow it to run out of fuel, go low and slow to the ground, release the net and allow the plane to crash at slower speeds without fuel to possible have a chance of saving the people onboard? I know it sounds stupid but I can't think of any other way
@@Dylan_Sterling Feel free to expand on that. To clarify, I mean in the event of a depressurization, if there was no interaction from the pilot within say 10-15 seconds, to lower the altitude and begin broadcasting an emergency response, or something to that effect
@@jacob_90s You somehow made your terrible idea even worse. For starters that kind of programming would be a gigantic pain in the ass and wouldn’t work if the autopilot was disengaged. It would also create a dangerous situation for everyone else in the air space.
Plane companys should invent a cargo plane with a large inflatable pool object on top of it,, just incase of these situations, This plane will fly up under the nonresponsive plane and guide it into a safe landing zone..
At least they died in their sleep. RIP everyone. If you didn't know when pressure is lost at that height it is now called a ghost flight. I believe Helios flight 522 on August 14th 2005 had the same problem so many year's ago. All 121 passengers and crew died the same way. May God rest their souls. And Good ole Canada was going to shoot them down. How thoughtful. I wonder if then someone on the ground would have been killed?
Sorry but there is absolutely no way it was a burning wreckage on the ground. The jet had completely run out of fuel then it crashed. If it was out of fuel what would have caused this burning?
Reminds me of Helios Flight 522, a commercial flight where the cabin presurization switch had been turned to manual (instead of the normal automatic mode) during a test. However the technicians forgot to turn it back to automatic mode and the pilots never checked what position it was in. However a steward was able to stay awake using a portable oxygen mask but wasnt able to take control of the airplane nor use the radio for help, and sadly all 100+ occupants died
It is recorded that he did call for Mayday but because of how weak his voice had gotten at that point no one heard him. He was planning or in the process of becoming a pilot himself. Very sad.
It’s worth mentioning that the Learjet’s emergency checklist for a decompression was poorly laid out, and instead of starting with telling the crew to put in their oxygen masks it instead had a warning, which meant the crew had quite possibly started to read the checklist, but had become incapacitated before it told them to put on their oxygen masks
A friend’s dad was on the investigation of this crash. A mystery was that no significant body pieces were found at the site, just a lot of red soaked clothing. There was no post crash fire since fuel was exhausted but the impact was very hard at 500 mph straight down. It turns out that they had been at altitude at -40F long enough to freeze solid, and shattered like glass on impact. The shards melted by the time authorities arrived.
You missed a few critical details. 1. The icing on the window suggests it was a rapid decompression. Slow decompressions such as Helios 522 don’t generally cause that effect, rapid fogging(or in cold enough conditions, ice formation) occurs when the pressure suddenly drops. This is seen in planes that have holes ripped in them as well. 2. Because of this, the reason they didn’t put on their masks COULDN’T have been confusion or lack of awareness over what’s was going on(which is what happened to Helios 522). Investigation later concluded the Learjet’s loss of pressure checklist was badly written, instructing pilots to try to fix the problem first, only telling them to put on oxygen masks at the end, 10 pages deep.
I wouldn't say he *missed* them, just that he didn't elaborate on them because exploring each individual theory isn't really the point of this series. Qxir tends to go by the official report in order to explain the nature of the death, rather than the exact circumstances surrounding it
I have depressurization and hypoxia training, and when you lose pressure quickly, you KNOW it, the entire cabin explodes in fog, not just the windows, it is like someone just kicked on a smoke machine. I can't see someone so rigorously sticking to the checklist over a depressurization event and not going for o2...It is highly sudden and confusing, and you have less than 30 seconds and fl360 before passing out, and literally seconds before hypoxia kicks in, which is different for everyone. If they didn't train for depressure events properly and didn't instantly go for the masks, o know how to get them out when they couldn't see, then that would do it.
@@HicSvntDracones you say that, but wasn't there that one flight where the plane was literally on fire yet the pilot didn't make an emergency stop in front of the emergency personal waiting for them? He slowly taxied and made a gentle stop down the runway. I could be misremembering, but I'm pretty sure that pilot stuck so fricking hard to the manual that he got everyone killed (that and incompetence and ignoring how serious the situation was).
This exact same situation just happened a couple days ago. Basically when you set a route with autopilot, it follows that route to a T but does NOT change altitude unless you do it manually (you have to request with ATC). When an aircraft gets close to its destination the autopilot can land the plane by itself if you instruct it to (pending you request with ATC). The plane did its entire route but never changed altitude once it overflew its destination runway, prompting a scramble. It kept flying south west before finally crashing in some mountains in Virginia. No survivors.
@@tony_5156 I know this is quite late but he is playing largo from dvorak's new world symphony. One of my favorite tunes so I hope you end up seeing this, quite a nice touch to it considering the words to it are mostly going home.
Quick correction, they departed from Orlando-Sanford airport instead of Orlando International. That’s my home airport and this was an unfortunate event in its history.
@mattwilliams3456 I guess we'll just have to take your word for it. Nothing says "I have a great life" like dropping nuggets of knowledge about airports on UA-cam. Letting every one know what your "hOmE aIrPoRt" is. I'm sure a lot of girls got wet reading that one.
Having see the door seals of a Lear 35, I'm amazed they work at all. Especially when compared to other aircraft of a similar size and era, like a Hawker.
@@luichinplaystation610 This Lear 35 was most likely built in the 70s or very early 80s. I doubt gulfstream IIs of that era had such a function either.
Many years ago I remember a LearJet crossing into UK air space. Jets were scrambled but no contact could be made. They shadowed the jet until it passed out of British air space heading west out over the ocean. This was in the 70s I think and I assumed it crashed into the sea, although I don't really know for sure. I have thought about it over the years when something triggers the memory, about what could have happened, about the people on board, did they live or die? Guess I'll never really know.
1996, a training flight of a LearJet 25B conducted by the West German (lol) charter company Air Traffic encounters effectively an identical situation to this one, it passes over Scotland eventually crashing into the Atlantic between the UK and Iceland where it is not recovered, the crew of 3 (correctly) is presumed dead. One twist is that the cockpit is found to be empty, leading to many speculative scenarios. I bet the disunified germany made your brain auto-boomerfy it. That or we really just need a "put on your own mask first" reminder disaster every 10 years or so...god it's that isn't it?
It was probably a slow decompression, it can really sneak up on you. And it can take mere minutes. My brother is in the navy, has some stories about faulty equipment during training almost killed a couple people.
Rapid decompression sneaks up on you too and the time you have to react is very small. As has been noted, the windows being frosted does not imply a slow decompression
All I know that manual book or checklist said what to do and what not to do, only to mention, in an emergency, wear an oxygen mask later on TEN PAGES DEEP!! Come on folks!! Get right! Whats with you?!
When I started to get really passionate about aviation I remember my dad telling me about this accident like 4 or 5 months ago (about the time ago I started to really get invested in aviation) cause he said that the lady first officer of this flight was on the swim team with my dad during high school, and that my dad's brother actually even took her to prom one year. Kinda crazy actually seeing a video on it now
Similar thing literally happened last week. The plane flew from Tennessee to Long Island. It overflew the airport and went on autopilot back to Tennessee. Jets were scrambled flying over DC, eventually crashing in Virginia
With tech nowdays I feel like it'd be possible to have planes equipped with a function to automatically lower the craft to a safe alt during a decompression episode that way if the pilots are out, the plane lowering has a chance of giving them o2 so they can recover the plane. Just a thought that I had.
Another great UA-camr, Ward Carroll, covers this crash in great detail. He knew Payne Stewart, and he's a former F-14 RIO (among other aviation accomplishments). Also as others note, this just happened again with another plane which crossed into restricted air space before eventually crashing. Private planes that can land themselves in an emergency are a thing now (very high end planes, but still). I would assume eventually all autopilots with landing capability will be able to detect loss of pressure and land themselves safely. Even cars now have systems that watch the driver, so something that monitors a pilot's eyes, heartrate, etc. isn't that far-fetched. Great video Qxir! 👍
Don’t even necessarily need the aircraft to land itself, descending to below 10,000 feet will restore (near) normal oxygen levels. Of course, for this to work, the aircraft needs to descend fast, and maintain that low altitude for long enough for the pilots to recover
By the way, F14 rear seat is called RIO, for Radar Intercept Officer. F15 (and F4) back seat is WSO, Weapons Systems Officer. Ward Carroll is a good source of information and experience.
It's believed this may have been responsible for the missing Malaysian airlines flight as well. The sudden U-turn was to make an emergency landing most likely but then overshot the landing and never made it, due to everyone being dead or unconscious. A decompression event or a fire where smoke fills the cabin both lead to these sorts of ghost planes. They fly silently until they hit something or run out of fuel. There's no one conscious - or alive, onboard.
A few thoughts on this type of decompression accident: a) The crew had less than a minute to notice & use their masks. b) The decompression was slow & gradual. the reason that the crew didn't notice it. c) The frosted windows indicated to the fighter pilot that everyone was already quite dead. d) This apparently happened to the jetliner that crashed west of Australia.
A slow leak doesn't cause fogging like that, an instant depressurization however does instantly fill the cabin with fog, and at the altitude, they would have less than 30 seconds to be conscious, but hypoxia kicks in literally instantly, which could prevent them from even getting a mask on, all depends on the person, which is why hypoxia raining is so critical, also why we always say put your mask on first...
I guess the confusing thing for me, is the pilot being prior active, and current reserve would almost certainly have been through a hypobaric chamber several times with training for the air force. He absolutely would have known what was going on unless something else happened to him
@@spacesabove8780 One thing that's missing in this video is that the emergency checklist for the cabin pressure alarm did not have donning oxygen masks as one of the first steps, and was also written using confusing wording - both of which were changed as a result of this accident. It was noted that the checklist was terribly written, incorrect, and would have also been hard to parse while the alarm was bussing away.....that a light or notice to don oxygen masks would be much more helpful than a buzzer
There was just a crash that happened a few days ago and they suspect it was the same cause. However some also think the pilot had a medical issue and no passenger could fly. Either way very sad in both incidences
I remember we were following this on the news at work while it was happening. Once we had an idea of what might have happened in the cockpit, we all felt a sick combination of helplessness, despair, and worry (about where the jet might ultimately crssh). [To be clear, none of us knew anyone on board, we weren't golf fans or involved in aviation, and we weren't anywhere near the path of the jet...we just couldn't help but feel awful about what was unfolding in real time.,]
The other clue to what happened was the Cabin Altitude Alarm could be heard on the cockpit voice recorder. It's a loud shriek that sounds just as terrifying as one would expect for that situation.
99.9% of the time - a recording of a tragedy like this, hasn't been released to the public... and it's just someone's sick recreation, made for nothing other than.. well, I don't know why. I guess just to start some kind of nonsense.
@SaladofStones you don't need to hear some random guy and girl screaming with a bunch of bear grunting noises to have a full understanding of the Grizzly Man documentary - it adds nothing of substance - the real one wouldn't even do that, as long as you know what happened. People are just looking for some kind of thrill, and intense emotions from something sickening and/or shocking, happens to accomplish that.
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The farmer set up a memorial and still lets people come to the field and pay their respects.
beat me to it. i remember seeing the story on another channel and tearing up because of how sweet the farmer was regarding the situation, and how everyone was paying the utmost respect. i feel like i remember hearing that the farmer was a fan of him, too, or some kind of other coincidental relation. might be wrong, though
What a GC
Thx for that bit of info Jason. It's always comforting to know there's ppl out there like that farmer . . . Thx to you too Timmy 😉 lol
@@Aieieo ay total cangsta gunt
Kinda interesting considering they didn't actually die anywhere near that location.
This and Helios Flight 522 give me chills to think about.
A plane cruising overhead, everyone on board is either incapacitated or dead due to lack of oxygen.
If you saw this plane flying above, you might just think it's a normal flight when in reality you're staring at a flying tomb.
and a missile with what are essentially random coordinates.
or, most likely in the most recent case, the pilot had a heart attack and the passengers are in back asleep, totally unaware that anything is wrong, and probably never become aware until the plane smacks the ground
@@HicSvntDracones that's why there is a co pilot.
@@jeffpienta4532 and autopilot
There are other stories of decompression and it's genuinely horrifying when it's slow, hearing on the CVR the confused crew slowly and unknowingly dying and the reports of fighter jets saying that everyone was as still as a statue.
Peaceful-ish but very grim way to die
Hypoxia seems to be a major issue with smaller jets like these. This 1999 accident wasn’t the only one. With one in 2022 involving a Cessna 550 citation which spiraled out of control and crashed into the Baltic Sea after both engines flamed out due to fuel exhaustion and another incident in June 2023 involving yet another Cessna 550 citation which spiraled out of control and crashed in Virginia after both engines failed from fuel exhaustion
1999 was before 2022 and 2023 btw
@@baronvonhoughton so it's not b.c.?
There was another instance in... the late 90s/early 2000s I think, where a plane flying to the West Australian goldfields decompressed and ended up crashing somewhere in eastern Queensland. I was acutely aware of that one because the father of a friend of mine at the time was on the plane.
I think the Cessna 550 needs a looking-into
The most recent crash in June was not depressurization. I don’t know how you came to that conclusion.
I was in high school when this happened and played on the golf team. Payne Stewart was a great guy and it was a terrible tragedy for the world of golf to lose him to such a freak accident.
People say tiger woods was involved in the crash
@@russellnindynine5905 lol
Ya never know
No, we literally do know that he wasn't involved.
Just say "you" instead of "people". People don't say that; you say that. People aren't stupid enough to fall for that level of gullible horseshit; it's just you.
How ever animated this did a amazing job
I think it's from a Smithsonian channel video on it. It isn't a full episode but a short to get you to subscribe to their own service.
@@residentevil5681 They (Smithsonian) just take these animations from Air Crash Investigation
its an investigative series called "Mayday", more specifically animated by cineflix
@@thatdamnFERRARIguyNo, that would be called copyright infringement. Smithsonian makes their own animations
@@6z0 Read up on it. Air Crash Investigation made these animations, not The Smithsonian.
I'm like 99% certain that the pressurization system never engaged in the first place, considering how soon they lost contact. Also, if it were a sudden loss of pressure, surely there'd have been immediate attempts to descend.
This sounds more like they stuck her on autopilot and unknowingly climbed without pressurization, gradually falling unconscious.
Apparently the checklists were poorly written
Most checklists for loss of cabin pressure start off with putting on oxygen masks (as you don’t have much time until you lose consciousness), but apparently on this plane that item was much further along in the checklist
The checklist apparently put troubleshooting first (oxygen masks should be the very first thing, then perhaps some troubleshooting after levelling off, and if that doesn’t work, then begin a decent, large jets don’t immediately begin a decent following loss of cabin pressure, there are other steps done first, which includes troubleshooting)
Frosted windows is generally a sign of rapid depressurisation
I remember exactly where I was when I heard a radio report about the unresponsive crew. The updates kept coming. Surreal.
This is like the Helios 522 accident, just on a smaller scale.
This just re occurred here In Maryland. One f-16 went supersonic over the state to track an unresponsive private plane. It crashed into the Virginia woods with 4 losses. I believe this may be a case very similar here.
I’m sure they also had a rapid decompression.
It doesn't have to be rapid, slow decompression is actually probably more dangerous because when rapid decompression happens you know it happened because the entire cabin will fill with fog. Slow decompression will sneak up and you won't even know you're running out of oxygen, you'll just start feeling euphoric and giggly almost like being drunk and if you don't recognize it right away then it's probably too late because your brain is already lacking oxygen.
@@smilingsamurai5590 aren't there sensors that can detect decompression, even slow ones?
@bullshitdepartment7638 yes there are but they have to activate before your brain goes loopy.
The quality of your content gets better every video! I always look forward to a new post!
I'm from South Dakota, the state where the plane finally went down, and I vaguely remember hearing about this.
Just a note, we know it wasn't explosive decompression but we can't be sure whether it was sudden or gradual. Had it been explosive, the plane would neither have been fully intact during the intercepts nor would it have made it all the way to the site of the crash as explosive decompression means the fuselage has actually opened up.
MOOOOOOOOM! Qxir uploaded another video!
This would be one of the best channels around if the vids were more frequent and/or longer.
Aaaaahhhh - What a treat! I’m in bed, just finished texting my way who is away for the weekend and I’m about to try and get myself to sleep somehow…
Qui r is so soothing and somehow familiar that it calms down regardless of the topic.
Nearly 1 Million!!!!!!
I feel bad for those fighter pilots. They saw what was happening but they couldn't help them.
How crazy he released this video in a similar thing just happened it seems
Remember this. Lord...what a f___d up moment in history, everybody thought that plane would be shot down.
RIP to Payne Stewart and all the victims. 🙏
I allways get so interested when watching
They were kidnapped by aliens who wanted golf coaching/advice.
5:39 most CVRs only hold the last 30 minutes of audio
I can't believe it, this incident repeats again somewhere Washington
Canadian here i remember this, the government was setting up a bunch of fireworks to knock the plane out of the sky......as we have no airforce to complete with that private jet.
just a suggestion, but have you heard about lambey in dublin bay and the animals on it? it would make an interesting/weird topic.
I vaguely remember news of an identical scenario couple months ago. Travelling northeast over spain france germany and finally downward spiral over baltic sea
And apparently, it just happened again with a private jet over Washington DC
Kudos to the cameraman in the opening sequence.
I literally just got done watching a video about the Helios Airways Flight 522 incident. Similar situation as well.
waiting for tesla autopilots to do the same thing when grandma has a heart attack.
Bag pipes are always rough for me.
Could you please make a video on the 1993 World Trade Center bombings? Many people talk about 9/11 but at least in my country very few are aware of the previous bombing attempt taken on the towers.
Great timing...
this just happened again in virginia a week ago
thats a weird ass f 16 model you used with both Norwegian and US roundels.
did you make those animations?
Funny how quickly interception happened here. Much faster than 9-11 or recent incident.
You should do a video on the U-2 Spy Plane Incident.
If you are interested in this topic please check the accident of Helios Airways, flight 522 on 14th Of August 2005,on a routine flight from Larnaca via Athens to Prague .The tragic loss of this plane with 121 people on board.
5:39 Does anyone else find it almost harrowingly nihilistic that this plane was seemingly designed in such a way that as soon as it detected the fuel running completely dry, it shut itself off without any need for input from a human whatsoever?
It feels like some A.I. that saw the end was coming, knew there was no longer any chance for rescue or recovery, and just said, "Peace Out, homies. Deuces!"
Ironically I flew to Dallas a few days ago .-.
What a tragedy.
Nice
1:21 my guy the ai thing definetely made the pic worse why would you use it lmao
Catching a flight in a couple days; I did this to myself
Imagine being that close to heaven. Then going supersonic to hell
were any bodies found?
Wow still more wreckage than flight 93... weird.
whys nobody mentioning the Canadian prime minister saying that they’d shoot it down for no reason at all other than it crossing the northern boarder?
Topical!
When you already know the story very well but you like Qxir so you're watching the whole video.
Would it be possible for a heavy lift aircraft with a huge net below it to catch up with out of control planes closer to when they are running out of fuel and catch them with the net mid-air, allow it to run out of fuel, go low and slow to the ground, release the net and allow the plane to crash at slower speeds without fuel to possible have a chance of saving the people onboard? I know it sounds stupid but I can't think of any other way
Too risky and pointless. The brain can only last a few minutes without oxygen. They were dead long before the plane crashed
I Remember
if it was explosive decompression, the plane wouldn't have continued as normal
These new animations are great and all but I miss the original ones. Maybe it's just my smooth mayo brain struggling with all this fancy hullabalo 🧠😢
RECALL TO ALL PRIVATE JETS TO DO PRESSURIZED TESTS
how hard did you cry when we lost dolores?
Rather sad the autopilot couldn't bring them down to a lower altitude. Wonder if that capability has been added since
No that would be a terrible idea.
@@Dylan_Sterling Feel free to expand on that. To clarify, I mean in the event of a depressurization, if there was no interaction from the pilot within say 10-15 seconds, to lower the altitude and begin broadcasting an emergency response, or something to that effect
@@jacob_90s You somehow made your terrible idea even worse. For starters that kind of programming would be a gigantic pain in the ass and wouldn’t work if the autopilot was disengaged. It would also create a dangerous situation for everyone else in the air space.
Not the worst way to go by any means
But if it was decompression why didn’t they respond at the initial climb out when they were still at lower altitudes?
Because the event happened after the that transmission
Nothing to add, just feeding the algorithm
Do you think you could consider lowering your intro by like -3/-5 decibels maybe?
I remember this from the time (Boomer), it was very sad. He'd been on a good run and was a popular figure.
Is there not cameras in planes?!?!?
WHY WOULD YOU NEED CAMERAS ON A PLANE? WASTE OF SPACE
Plane companys should invent a cargo plane with a large inflatable pool object on top of it,, just incase of these situations, This plane will fly up under the nonresponsive plane and guide it into a safe landing zone..
We’re almost at 1000000 boys!
Really wierd timing qix
You're not afraid to BE the lava lamp! Sad story, though. 😐
At least they died in their sleep. RIP everyone.
If you didn't know when pressure is lost at that height it is now called a ghost flight.
I believe Helios flight 522 on August 14th 2005 had the same problem so many year's ago. All 121 passengers and crew died the same way.
May God rest their souls.
And Good ole Canada was going to shoot them down.
How thoughtful.
I wonder if then someone on the ground would have been killed?
Sorry but there is absolutely no way it was a burning wreckage on the ground. The jet had completely run out of fuel then it crashed. If it was out of fuel what would have caused this burning?
The fumes of the remaining fuel?
huh, I thought "since when does qxir do news?"
Reminds me of Helios Flight 522, a commercial flight where the cabin presurization switch had been turned to manual (instead of the normal automatic mode) during a test. However the technicians forgot to turn it back to automatic mode and the pilots never checked what position it was in. However a steward was able to stay awake using a portable oxygen mask but wasnt able to take control of the airplane nor use the radio for help, and sadly all 100+ occupants died
My worst nightmare must’ve been terrifying
Can you imagine being the only awake person on a flight
@@danevertt3210 well it definitely calls for a smoke and raid of the liquor trolley
It is recorded that he did call for Mayday but because of how weak his voice had gotten at that point no one heard him. He was planning or in the process of becoming a pilot himself. Very sad.
@@Kato69 you'd have to take of the mask lol..
It’s worth mentioning that the Learjet’s emergency checklist for a decompression was poorly laid out, and instead of starting with telling the crew to put in their oxygen masks it instead had a warning, which meant the crew had quite possibly started to read the checklist, but had become incapacitated before it told them to put on their oxygen masks
It was something like go through 3-4 minutes of checklist before telling the crew to don oxygen masks and start emergency descent
@@quantumsniper9433 I didn’t realise it was that far into the checklist
@@quantumsniper9433 Jesus Christ, That is insane.
Well, that explains it. 14 seconds into the checklist, and it was no longer their problem.
A friend’s dad was on the investigation of this crash. A mystery was that no significant body pieces were found at the site, just a lot of red soaked clothing. There was no post crash fire since fuel was exhausted but the impact was very hard at 500 mph straight down. It turns out that they had been at altitude at -40F long enough to freeze solid, and shattered like glass on impact. The shards melted by the time authorities arrived.
Jesus f*cking christ that’s freaky to think about
The perfect crime perhaps 🤔
No need to specify units for -40, it’s the same temperature for Celsius and Fahrenheit. Kinda neat.
Fun fact, -40 is the same in freedom units and Celsius. Science! (Now I will be somber and respectful, I was just momentarily excited by science. 🤓)
Ah, whoops. @microTrash28 beat me to it hours ago. Reading is fundamental, I guess. I was blinded with science.
You missed a few critical details.
1. The icing on the window suggests it was a rapid decompression. Slow decompressions such as Helios 522 don’t generally cause that effect, rapid fogging(or in cold enough conditions, ice formation) occurs when the pressure suddenly drops. This is seen in planes that have holes ripped in them as well.
2. Because of this, the reason they didn’t put on their masks COULDN’T have been confusion or lack of awareness over what’s was going on(which is what happened to Helios 522). Investigation later concluded the Learjet’s loss of pressure checklist was badly written, instructing pilots to try to fix the problem first, only telling them to put on oxygen masks at the end, 10 pages deep.
I wouldn't say he *missed* them, just that he didn't elaborate on them because exploring each individual theory isn't really the point of this series. Qxir tends to go by the official report in order to explain the nature of the death, rather than the exact circumstances surrounding it
6:10 ?
I have depressurization and hypoxia training, and when you lose pressure quickly, you KNOW it, the entire cabin explodes in fog, not just the windows, it is like someone just kicked on a smoke machine. I can't see someone so rigorously sticking to the checklist over a depressurization event and not going for o2...It is highly sudden and confusing, and you have less than 30 seconds and fl360 before passing out, and literally seconds before hypoxia kicks in, which is different for everyone. If they didn't train for depressure events properly and didn't instantly go for the masks, o know how to get them out when they couldn't see, then that would do it.
The pilot was extremely experienced, as well
@@HicSvntDracones you say that, but wasn't there that one flight where the plane was literally on fire yet the pilot didn't make an emergency stop in front of the emergency personal waiting for them? He slowly taxied and made a gentle stop down the runway. I could be misremembering, but I'm pretty sure that pilot stuck so fricking hard to the manual that he got everyone killed (that and incompetence and ignoring how serious the situation was).
This exact same situation just happened a couple days ago. Basically when you set a route with autopilot, it follows that route to a T but does NOT change altitude unless you do it manually (you have to request with ATC). When an aircraft gets close to its destination the autopilot can land the plane by itself if you instruct it to (pending you request with ATC). The plane did its entire route but never changed altitude once it overflew its destination runway, prompting a scramble. It kept flying south west before finally crashing in some mountains in Virginia. No survivors.
Similar situation happened in the Baltic last year.
I don't think the route was engaged, just the altitude. It didn't follow the actual flight plan, but kept going straight until it fell out of the sky.
nope, the windows weren't frozen over. the F-16 pilot could see the citation pilot slumped in his seat. not hypoxia
@@jasondavis4385 the crew and passengers were sniped by aliens with a microwave beam
Thank you for informing us
I think ending with the clip from the memorial was quite respectful and a nice touch
I’m hoping to know the tune that the piper is playing
@@tony_5156 I know this is quite late but he is playing largo from dvorak's new world symphony. One of my favorite tunes so I hope you end up seeing this, quite a nice touch to it considering the words to it are mostly going home.
Quick correction, they departed from Orlando-Sanford airport instead of Orlando International. That’s my home airport and this was an unfortunate event in its history.
I’m so happy when I have a flight that leaves from Sanford instead of MCO. Such a nice and quiet airport
Who cares about your "home airport"? Eff your "quick correction".
@@Ted_Sheckler it feels so good knowing my life is better and happier than yours :)
@mattwilliams3456 I guess we'll just have to take your word for it. Nothing says "I have a great life" like dropping nuggets of knowledge about airports on UA-cam. Letting every one know what your "hOmE aIrPoRt" is. I'm sure a lot of girls got wet reading that one.
@@Ted_Sheckler It’s another wonderful day of not being you :)
And to think we had another one of these incidents quite recently just outside Baltimore (I think it was, it was somewhere on the east coast)
DC actually. That one was really sad, there was a 1 year old baby on board.
@@Calvin_Coolage oh god, that's horrendous.
@@Calvin_Coolage it was a 2 yr old, plus her mother and the nanny that were the passengers.
@@kutter_ttl6786 Yeah I couldn't remember. That's basically a wholeass family gone.
The crash happened in Virginia
Having see the door seals of a Lear 35, I'm amazed they work at all. Especially when compared to other aircraft of a similar size and era, like a Hawker.
Most Gulfstream jets have an automatic feature that directs the aircraft to a breathable altitude. Even some small jets have that feature
Because they build a better plane
Well the is Learjet we're talking about
@@luichinplaystation610 This Lear 35 was most likely built in the 70s or very early 80s. I doubt gulfstream IIs of that era had such a function either.
And could you take a wild guess at the incident that caused that feature to be implemented?
Many years ago I remember a LearJet crossing into UK air space. Jets were scrambled but no contact could be made. They shadowed the jet until it passed out of British air space heading west out over the ocean. This was in the 70s I think and I assumed it crashed into the sea, although I don't really know for sure. I have thought about it over the years when something triggers the memory, about what could have happened, about the people on board, did they live or die? Guess I'll never really know.
They’re probably dead, sorry to break it to you
@@Sniperboy5551 even if they weren't, they would've been irreversibly brain dead via hypoxia
1996, a training flight of a LearJet 25B conducted by the West German (lol) charter company Air Traffic encounters effectively an identical situation to this one, it passes over Scotland eventually crashing into the Atlantic between the UK and Iceland where it is not recovered, the crew of 3 (correctly) is presumed dead. One twist is that the cockpit is found to be empty, leading to many speculative scenarios. I bet the disunified germany made your brain auto-boomerfy it. That or we really just need a "put on your own mask first" reminder disaster every 10 years or so...god it's that isn't it?
1983*
It's really horrifying knowing these dead people were just... carried around for a long time.
You ever been to a funeral?
Also, boats.
Why?
Why?
Yeah, that happens whenever a plane depressurized on autopilot. It's like a creepy flying casket.
@@arnaldofernandez it just... Is
It was probably a slow decompression, it can really sneak up on you. And it can take mere minutes. My brother is in the navy, has some stories about faulty equipment during training almost killed a couple people.
Rapid decompression sneaks up on you too and the time you have to react is very small. As has been noted, the windows being frosted does not imply a slow decompression
All I know that manual book or checklist said what to do and what not to do, only to mention, in an emergency, wear an oxygen mask later on TEN PAGES DEEP!!
Come on folks!! Get right! Whats with you?!
When I started to get really passionate about aviation I remember my dad telling me about this accident like 4 or 5 months ago (about the time ago I started to really get invested in aviation) cause he said that the lady first officer of this flight was on the swim team with my dad during high school, and that my dad's brother actually even took her to prom one year. Kinda crazy actually seeing a video on it now
There's something oddly reminiscent of old tales of ghost vehicles carrying the souls of the dead about this case.
This sounds familiar...
Pre Malaysia
Crispy cream twin towes
Circumstances sounds very similar to what happened earlier this week near Washington, DC.
Very…
MH370 flashbacks
Similar thing literally happened last week. The plane flew from Tennessee to Long Island. It overflew the airport and went on autopilot back to Tennessee. Jets were scrambled flying over DC, eventually crashing in Virginia
With tech nowdays I feel like it'd be possible to have planes equipped with a function to automatically lower the craft to a safe alt during a decompression episode that way if the pilots are out, the plane lowering has a chance of giving them o2 so they can recover the plane. Just a thought that I had.
This case has been referenced in the recent private jet crash over Washington last week. Its tragic that this type of accident can still happen
Oh well, to each their own. That's why my feet staying on the ground! It was basically a flying tomb in the air.
Another great UA-camr, Ward Carroll, covers this crash in great detail. He knew Payne Stewart, and he's a former F-14 RIO (among other aviation accomplishments). Also as others note, this just happened again with another plane which crossed into restricted air space before eventually crashing. Private planes that can land themselves in an emergency are a thing now (very high end planes, but still). I would assume eventually all autopilots with landing capability will be able to detect loss of pressure and land themselves safely. Even cars now have systems that watch the driver, so something that monitors a pilot's eyes, heartrate, etc. isn't that far-fetched. Great video Qxir! 👍
Don’t even necessarily need the aircraft to land itself, descending to below 10,000 feet will restore (near) normal oxygen levels. Of course, for this to work, the aircraft needs to descend fast, and maintain that low altitude for long enough for the pilots to recover
@@mistertagnan yeah good point!
Petter of Mentour Pilot is the best in this category
@@laratheplanespotterDragged out, tv style production sponsored videos? Def aint the best in the category bud
By the way, F14 rear seat is called RIO, for Radar Intercept Officer. F15 (and F4) back seat is WSO, Weapons Systems Officer. Ward Carroll is a good source of information and experience.
It's believed this may have been responsible for the missing Malaysian airlines flight as well. The sudden U-turn was to make an emergency landing most likely but then overshot the landing and never made it, due to everyone being dead or unconscious. A decompression event or a fire where smoke fills the cabin both lead to these sorts of ghost planes. They fly silently until they hit something or run out of fuel. There's no one conscious - or alive, onboard.
It was basically a flying tomb.
A few thoughts on this type of decompression accident:
a) The crew had less than a minute to notice & use their masks.
b) The decompression was slow & gradual. the reason that the crew didn't notice it.
c) The frosted windows indicated to the fighter pilot that everyone was already quite dead.
d) This apparently happened to the jetliner that crashed west of Australia.
A slow leak doesn't cause fogging like that, an instant depressurization however does instantly fill the cabin with fog, and at the altitude, they would have less than 30 seconds to be conscious, but hypoxia kicks in literally instantly, which could prevent them from even getting a mask on, all depends on the person, which is why hypoxia raining is so critical, also why we always say put your mask on first...
I guess the confusing thing for me, is the pilot being prior active, and current reserve would almost certainly have been through a hypobaric chamber several times with training for the air force. He absolutely would have known what was going on unless something else happened to him
@@spacesabove8780 One thing that's missing in this video is that the emergency checklist for the cabin pressure alarm did not have donning oxygen masks as one of the first steps, and was also written using confusing wording - both of which were changed as a result of this accident. It was noted that the checklist was terribly written, incorrect, and would have also been hard to parse while the alarm was bussing away.....that a light or notice to don oxygen masks would be much more helpful than a buzzer
There was just a crash that happened a few days ago and they suspect it was the same cause. However some also think the pilot had a medical issue and no passenger could fly. Either way very sad in both incidences
I remember we were following this on the news at work while it was happening. Once we had an idea of what might have happened in the cockpit, we all felt a sick combination of helplessness, despair, and worry (about where the jet might ultimately crssh).
[To be clear, none of us knew anyone on board, we weren't golf fans or involved in aviation, and we weren't anywhere near the path of the jet...we just couldn't help but feel awful about what was unfolding in real time.,]
when he says that they have 4 - 5 hours of fuel at 1:45 , you know shits gonna go bad
Keep them coming 👌
The other clue to what happened was the Cabin Altitude Alarm could be heard on the cockpit voice recorder. It's a loud shriek that sounds just as terrifying as one would expect for that situation.
99.9% of the time - a recording of a tragedy like this, hasn't been released to the public... and it's just someone's sick recreation, made for nothing other than.. well, I don't know why. I guess just to start some kind of nonsense.
@@Frosty_tha_Snowman There are a lot of recreations made for educational purposes either by official sources or by people within that community.
@@SaladofStones that's not educational, and you won't convince me that it is.
@SaladofStones you don't need to hear some random guy and girl screaming with a bunch of bear grunting noises to have a full understanding of the Grizzly Man documentary - it adds nothing of substance - the real one wouldn't even do that, as long as you know what happened. People are just looking for some kind of thrill, and intense emotions from something sickening and/or shocking, happens to accomplish that.
@@Frosty_tha_Snowman I don't think you realize how important it is to study events like this so they don't happen again.
This exact situation just happened this past week in Virginia, excellent and accurate depiction of events as always Qxir, well done 👍