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Because Issin has no own style/flavor just another one doing the same moves as shingekix, issei, taisuke etc. Just a lot of power moves without any own signature. The reason why bboys like amir, lee, menno, phil wizard smoke these bboys is because they create their own moves/style, And that is a good thing, otherwise the sport wouldn't evolve.
Wow judges were definitely paid off for that one. Lee had some nice moves but Isshin is on a completely different level with his speed, power and control.
why issin lose? because if issin win; he meet victor in final, and issin dangerous for victor... remember, this is in usa ... usa is hometown victor...this is my opinion ✌️ 😁
Issin won this battle 100%, he got first and second battle both 5-0 so maybe judge was just focus on his mistake to find, Lee is amazing dancer but not winner of this battle.
Guys for one sec let’s be honest, we all know that during the red bull bc one final, you have a better chance of winning if you have the red bull mark on you, if you come from the country where you are in the final. Victor has both, guess Who won😂😂. Big respect for Victor one of the best bboy for sure BUT, this competition supposed to be the most important is just 100% fake, only for sponsors branding…
I don't know what Lee is trying to show in this contest. People must have expected a lot of Lee, but he doesn't really show anything. Windmill Elbow Slide Double Elbow Spin is worth seeing
For everyone who's upset at the loss, you have to remember this is his first Red Bull BC One World Final. He is still young, hungry and will most likely come back another year to try and win it. Does anyone remember when Issei's first World Finals? He lost to Victor in the finals. He came back the next year and beat the legendary Hong 10 who was looking really clean that year with little to no crashes. Give this young man some time and he'll be on top with other great names.
@@kurtcur right. at the end of the day, this artform is just subjective to what people want to see and what people think they want to see out of someone. i remember one time i went to a jam where they judged round for round. only one judge voted in favor of my round each time i went out. couldn't be mad at it. at least 1 person liked my rounds. just gotta train harder and better to have people favor you more.
Camera angels so bad, i felt like a pigeon the whole night. Really, NY is the heart of this culture, I was so hyped about the fact that it came back to the roots, but it seems it has only a marketing value to RedBull. Saw more crowd reactions than dance actually.
Issin always do the best.. I hope in this year issin is the winner.. but I dont know why redbull still bring the old winner did't looking for the new winner hufftt
I don’t get why biting is so accepted. Just as an example for stealing creative creations from others 0:29 flea rock 2:43 Robb There so many more tho. To me it makes no sense to be a respected breaker while using other peoples research for success and cloud.
Flea rock did this move in silverback open 3v3 before then. And flea rock also bite this move from a orangutan at a zoo so everyone is biting the orangutan
Plain robbery. 1:32 he even bit victors backspin to airbaby. Ironically even issin called it and it was shown in the slow mo reel. It wouldve been so funny if he did that to victor during the finals.
Lee 2nd round and 3rd is like just get down flow a bit to the left and right repeat the chair freeze which he did earlier and call it a day??? Ishin round has more details and transition than that.
Wait did I see all vote on Lee? He did really well and show clean and originality but very short. I think most Bboy would agree that Issin is the real winner here. Strong power and control. Lack a little style but his overall still outweigh Lee let me realistic here.
judging was solid most of the time, but this one was off! bboy sick seems like a good judge. I wish Issin did just a little more moves in 3rd round just to lengthen his set and secure the win... some judges dont go by the rounds and to them last round seems important
Issin tenía todo para ganar el título y se lo arrebatan 🤌🏼 por miedo que le ganará a Víctor y en su casa , cuando aprenderán que hay talento nuevo para más y bboy Issin volverá, espero que tome ese título que pronto lo ganará
and this is a problem. Judges do this over and over again. Just because they are from the same crew they 100% vote against. In Ayumis eyes, she is being respecful / fair / good decision but in my eyes she is a bad judge and making it easy for herself. What she should do is judge what she actually thinks because she got this job for this competition. What she actually thinks might be that Issin won but she will still vote against him.. wack.
@@fallenangel5268 This is a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. If she votes for Issin, then it looks like she is biased for her crew mate. So people would complain either way. Ideally, you would not have a crew mate be a judge in any battle, but that is difficult to do with everyone in the scene being friends with each other. In the end, it doesn't matter because her vote either way would not have resulted in an Issin victory since they all voted for Lee anyways.
Issin 2x1 Minha opinião Mas ele chega lá apenas 17 anos ainda tem muito pela frente só lutar, como vem fazendo ele é de outro mundo que garoto ligeiro e limpo em todos seus movimentos todos mesmo. Parabéns chegar onde chegou e ainda vem mais por ai
@@alfredallensworthy7831 affirmative action applies to every minority not just black people. "not discriminate against any employee or applicant for employment because of race, creed, color, or national origin"
@@FFmaxxx ignore him loser trolls obsessed with black culture but hate themselves so they close the gap by being racist. just pray for him to find peace next year
The judges were the worst ever. Even if you judge them by music sync Lee was worse. They've pushing these lame bboy from the Netherlands against many better bboys and issin was robbed and they kept pushing lee just to get beaten by victor in the final. Issin, amir, lil zoo and Phil wizard were all better than lee and evn victor
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I don't understand the judges...
Issin clearly won this battle ! 💪💪
lol it's called affirmative action 😂
They want Victor to win bro because hi IS from usa THAT's it
Issin looked formulaic/robotic at times. Same speed no soul. Lee just got that flavor💯
Because Issin has no own style/flavor just another one doing the same moves as shingekix, issei, taisuke etc. Just a lot of power moves without any own signature. The reason why bboys like amir, lee, menno, phil wizard smoke these bboys is because they create their own moves/style, And that is a good thing, otherwise the sport wouldn't evolve.
@@wazzzaaa96 🤫
ISSIN WINNER 🤯
Issin full powers next level👏
Issin is The real winner for 200%👍🏻
I think u need glasses 🤓
@@metalkingslimexwario true bruh
Even the cameraman is biased
His last round bit short and he doesn’t pace himself well. He could of win if he actually approach this more carefully
@@yazuoDarui no THAT's it issin the true winer
lee in slow mo .. more repeating , judges are lost in space .. issin clearly on another level 🔥🔥robbery
Nah the judges just aren't power move heads
Issin is The real winner 👍🏻
Wow judges were definitely paid off for that one. Lee had some nice moves but Isshin is on a completely different level with his speed, power and control.
Speed is because he’s smaller.
Hope Issin goes big next time. He's great to watch.
What the hell how did Issin lose this one? Lee was MEH.
the USA has something called affirmative action
@@alfredallensworthy7831 say that to the judge when you and the crowd knows you won, but loss.
Hopefully issin comes back next year
he should be a wildcard
Why should he, they robbed him so bad. Lee did nothing against issin
Second worst Redbull bc one after the 2014 event.
@@leostarings2535 So true.
of cuz he just only 17 years old :)
This one got into one of the biggest robberies in the history of this competition, just like that, no arguments.
Issin the real winner 💯🤙
Two japanese bboys in the semifinals, what a beast nation 🇯🇵
Lee is a great bboy but Issin takes it
Issin legendary sets 🔥💯
why issin lose? because if issin win; he meet victor in final, and issin dangerous for victor... remember, this is in usa ... usa is hometown victor...this is my opinion ✌️ 😁
Issin won this battle 100%, he got first and second battle both 5-0 so maybe judge was just focus on his mistake to find, Lee is amazing dancer but not winner of this battle.
it was 4-1 the judge on the left voted issin, hard to see thought the same lmao
Guys for one sec let’s be honest, we all know that during the red bull bc one final, you have a better chance of winning if you have the red bull mark on you, if you come from the country where you are in the final. Victor has both, guess Who won😂😂. Big respect for Victor one of the best bboy for sure BUT, this competition supposed to be the most important is just 100% fake, only for sponsors branding…
I don't know what Lee is trying to show in this contest.
People must have expected a lot of Lee, but he doesn't really show anything.
Windmill Elbow Slide Double Elbow Spin is worth seeing
How did lee win? Issin had better musicality and technicality
Lee has moves from unexpected angles and directions, but I don't think he performed well this time.
lee cant toprock Lol
@@aldyazka9789 Lee can top rock and definitely has groove. Let's not use one battle to cloud our judgement.
As usual at each BC one there are steals, this battle is part of it, Issin wins
For 17 years he AWESOME
Issin goes to the final no matter what !!!!
bought judges
For everyone who's upset at the loss, you have to remember this is his first Red Bull BC One World Final. He is still young, hungry and will most likely come back another year to try and win it. Does anyone remember when Issei's first World Finals? He lost to Victor in the finals. He came back the next year and beat the legendary Hong 10 who was looking really clean that year with little to no crashes. Give this young man some time and he'll be on top with other great names.
Issei lost in the first round in 2012, lost in quarterfinals in 2015, tho.
and that hong10 vs issei battle result is still controversial
@@kurtcur right. at the end of the day, this artform is just subjective to what people want to see and what people think they want to see out of someone. i remember one time i went to a jam where they judged round for round. only one judge voted in favor of my round each time i went out. couldn't be mad at it. at least 1 person liked my rounds. just gotta train harder and better to have people favor you more.
Live見てた時は、Issin君が勝ったと思った～
ナイファイ
Love both boys. Lee has a lot of potential to be one of the best but i thought issin should have advanced.
Lee reaches the final by being easily beaten by Amir and Issin
Issin 🔥🔥🔥
Issim Win
Issin 💯💯
B-BOY ISSIN all the way! More limber, moves FLOW from one to the other, moves to the beat, no hesitation to go into the next move.
Props to issin
Id literally pay a band to see a brazilian cartel stream themselves flaying the red bull cameraman alive
camera crew was trash.
The tradition continues of bc one coverage being HORRID 😂😂
Issin Win!
Issin won!
Issin should win red bull bc one world final 🔥🔥
Oh c'mon judges,, bboy Issin clearly won this battle🙄
nonono you just dont understand. this is good judging. it's called affirmative action.
Issin looked formulaic/robotic at times. Same speed no soul. Lee just got that flavor💯
Really, Lee? Across the board?
Issin WIN . 🗿🍷
Camera angels so bad, i felt like a pigeon the whole night. Really, NY is the heart of this culture, I was so hyped about the fact that it came back to the roots, but it seems it has only a marketing value to RedBull.
Saw more crowd reactions than dance actually.
Issin won for sure
Issin is the true winner
Dope battle but Issin should’ve won. Lee is dope tho
Issin win!
Issin winner for me 👌🏽
Issin always do the best.. I hope in this year issin is the winner.. but I dont know why redbull still bring the old winner did't looking for the new winner hufftt
Issin win 🙂
How the hell that Issin loosee ??
Issin🔥
I don’t get why biting is so accepted.
Just as an example for stealing creative creations from others 0:29 flea rock 2:43 Robb
There so many more tho.
To me it makes no sense to be a respected breaker while using other peoples research for success and cloud.
Issin got robbed 😤
if this kind of decision continues than red bull bc world final will lose it's reputation.😮💨😬
00:29 is bite from bboy Gerku(Poland). Gerku did this move in 2018 at The Legit Blast
True !!!
Flea rock did this move in silverback open 3v3 before then. And flea rock also bite this move from a orangutan at a zoo so everyone is biting the orangutan
issin ⚡
ISSIN win
Issin get robbed
Иссин 3:0 в сухую, судей на мыло 🤮
Blindfolded judges, they were probably writing something on their notebooks during Issin’s rounds
Issin robbed in this one.
Yo that 2:17 cc combo is so clean, hitting all the beats 🔥
Plain robbery.
1:32 he even bit victors backspin to airbaby. Ironically even issin called it and it was shown in the slow mo reel. It wouldve been so funny if he did that to victor during the finals.
same with 671 vs india haha
i thought the bite sign was for the traveling backspin that issei does sometimes.
@@dagger_wrist its when he did the air baby issin threw the bite sign
Bboy issin es el verdadero winner
Issin take it!
issin should have won.
ISSIN win!!!
Lee 2nd round and 3rd is like just get down flow a bit to the left and right repeat the chair freeze which he did earlier and call it a day??? Ishin round has more details and transition than that.
I just witnessed a big robbery 😬
Issin é o real vencedor e todos sabem disso.
2:17 what
Wait did I see all vote on Lee? He did really well and show clean and originality but very short. I think most Bboy would agree that Issin is the real winner here. Strong power and control. Lack a little style but his overall still outweigh Lee let me realistic here.
judge on the left voted issin, the only one who had his eyes on
1:34 Victor signature... Issin calls bite
It's just backspin airbaby
@@olivierwarner3018 it's a travelling backspin
who know this judges?! 👎 Amir Loss?! Lee Win in Battle with Amir?!🤣 Red Bull knows who to champion every year💯💯💯
Judges made from cookies lol
judging was solid most of the time, but this one was off!
bboy sick seems like a good judge.
I wish Issin did just a little more moves in 3rd round just to lengthen his set and secure the win... some judges dont go by the rounds and to them last round seems important
Issin claramente ganhou
Wtf!!! Lee???
ISSIN 3X0..Simple
issin is the winner!!! look at this flows, hes dont stopping
Issin the winner
Redbull bc bad 👎👎👎
Issin win
This is just daylight robbery .Issin definitely took this!
Issin
Issin tenía todo para ganar el título y se lo arrebatan 🤌🏼 por miedo que le ganará a Víctor y en su casa , cuando aprenderán que hay talento nuevo para más y bboy Issin volverá, espero que tome ese título que pronto lo ganará
Even Issin's own crew mate (Ayumi) in Body Carnival voted for Lee .
Traitor
and this is a problem. Judges do this over and over again. Just because they are from the same crew they 100% vote against. In Ayumis eyes, she is being respecful / fair / good decision but in my eyes she is a bad judge and making it easy for herself. What she should do is judge what she actually thinks because she got this job for this competition. What she actually thinks might be that Issin won but she will still vote against him.. wack.
@@fallenangel5268 Voted for him in his other 2 battles. What are you smoking?
Ayumi don’t wanna be looked as as biased judge
@@fallenangel5268 This is a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. If she votes for Issin, then it looks like she is biased for her crew mate. So people would complain either way. Ideally, you would not have a crew mate be a judge in any battle, but that is difficult to do with everyone in the scene being friends with each other. In the end, it doesn't matter because her vote either way would not have resulted in an Issin victory since they all voted for Lee anyways.
While Issin was a powerhouse, NGL Lee's moves was smooth like a butter.
Issin 2x1
Minha opinião
Mas ele chega lá apenas 17 anos ainda tem muito pela frente só lutar, como vem fazendo ele é de outro mundo que garoto ligeiro e limpo em todos seus movimentos todos mesmo. Parabéns chegar onde chegou e ainda vem mais por ai
Red Bull was like " we can't show that we invested in the wrong one" (Lee new RedBull Allstar)
Issin can win victor
Roubado demaiss
This is 2024 and I totally agree with the judges. Issin is all power moves. His pace is for uptempo not breaking. And other things.
Red Bull must have adopted affirmative action in their judging
that doesnt mean what you think it means
@@FFmaxxx it means exactly that
@@alfredallensworthy7831 affirmative action applies to every minority not just black people.
"not discriminate against any employee or applicant for employment because of race, creed, color, or national origin"
@@FFmaxxx ignore him
loser trolls obsessed with black culture but hate themselves so they close the gap by being racist. just pray for him to find peace next year
Lol he would win world if it was a thing
The judges were the worst ever. Even if you judge them by music sync Lee was worse. They've pushing these lame bboy from the Netherlands against many better bboys and issin was robbed and they kept pushing lee just to get beaten by victor in the final. Issin, amir, lil zoo and Phil wizard were all better than lee and evn victor
Иссин взял на 100%.
Name of the first beat please 🙏
Fake bull bc one. Issin winners. Bad judges
Issin winn !!
Issin took it
issin won
issin all the way, and clear like sky
For m'y issin
Judges' criteria: originality = 95%, power+difficulty+contorl = 5%.