Katrina S Lately, I've haven't thought of suicide lately, but before that I thought about suicide every single day for most of this year and more than a couple of times through the years.
exactly, i completely lack of the seven qualities, there is nothing that psychologists can do on my case, want to suicide and only don't do it because is painful.
You're only half right. People who study psychology and have experienced a friendship with someone suicidal (that talks about it) can understand why. I think what you meant is that they can't relate to the feeling.
@Anarchist Zero I earn a lot of money but life is still torture. No one likes me. I have no friends. Probably because I get extremely violent if someone offends me. BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO ASHAME ME IN THE PUBLIC. I HAD ENOUGH.
+Urist McPoster You already said the reason. "Other". I thought it was a good answer. Though at this point I think you should reconsider, because you seem ok. But I guess I don't really know.
It could be easy and painless, but our capitalist overlords intentionally dont give us the tools, like for example secobarbital, because we are an investment and a "human resource" to them.
Otama Mama lol good point, i think she meant that the thought of choosing to leave this world has made her comfortable with her pain, the thought that she can end it whenever she wants..
i hate when people say that suicide is selfish because u make your pain go away but then make everybody around u hurt as well, saying "oh he didn't even think about his friends and family" is like saying "I don't give a shit that he was in so much pain that he rathered not to exist anymore, how could he be such an inconvenience to our happiness?"
No, it isn't a matter of hypocrisy and another sense of selfishness. I know how it is to have suicidal thoughts. Even now, I struggle with them. I'm in a dark abyss with no help. But I'm not going to just end my life. Each and every one of us are unique as individuals. We all were here for a substantial reason. Ending your life would give the love, support, memories, and everything that both you and people held dearly to loss. It follows the same pattern of something like a big business project that took years of hard work and dedication, only for it to be scrapped due to a problem or so. I know things are hard, and they may even get harder, but isn't that what life is? For whatever greater meaning, whether there is one or not, it is to test us and strengthen us collectively as a whole. There is more than it being selfish. That is beyond a doubt. But you're hurting both you and those who have cared immensely for you by doing such an action. Whether you have an extrovert or introverted look on life, you have to see that there are other options, no matter how deep or terrible things may be.
People will truly never understand if they’ve been fortunate enough to never have suicidal thoughts. You might have thoughts and still be riddled with the guilt and back thought of providing grief to your friends and family and just peers around you once you leave. But... there also comes a certain point where your own existence and burdening thoughts become so heavy that no matter the consequences you can no longer feel that guilt keeping you here. You don’t care about the pain you’ll give your mother, or sister or best friend or (ex) lover. It doesn’t matter to you because you’re so apathetic you can no longer sympathize their greatest grief. It’s awful, I know it is. But I speak from experience. So yes, perhaps to an outsider, it’s selfish, and it’s completely understandable. But there is a point where you’re so far gone and weighed down that your own consciousness can no longer process or even comprehend or care about others, because you’re gone. There is no way to validate suicide, I’m not defending it by any means, but I’m trying to provide reasoning and understanding for those who are privileged enough to never quite get it.
It is more than acceptable to play Devil's Advocate. And yes, that mental cloud and vision can be one to blind you, me, and us all, if I am to be honest. However, I just know there is a glimmer of hope and light to rid of this lack of vision. Life is a mess. There is no doubt to that. It is full of hate, bigotry, divide, whatever the case may be. But there is always something to look to. Something to keep you going. It may not be visible now, but you have to venture deeper into the abyss if you are to find it. It won't come to you, rather, you have to come to it. Go, and seek forth, until you find this hope. This help. This guidance. No matter it's quantity or size, it's quality should give the aspiration and drive to get you out of this rough situation. I thank you for this approach, as seeing the other side of the table is a healthy and plentiful approach to society. One I appreciate so highly.
RejectChannelIUseForCommenting been experiencing this a lot lately. I was so depressed for so long and in the past was having severe depression symptoms and anxiety and panic attacks and self destructive behavior. And I’d thought I’d for the most part gotten over the worst of those issues and it was in the past (was like 5 years ago) but i feel as though the issues have been here the whole time still, they’d just been dulled down a little and can easily sharpen at any moment
I don't understand why ppl try to talk with me to not commit suicides, but if i reveal my problems to them, they are silent and can not offer help. They just using poor cliches to try to look cool and they try to detach themselves from the point that life has no meaning because they try to give pointless meanings for their life what is not available on my level. A youth without a future = increase of suicidal tendencies.
Give / Help / Move / tracking / rest / try new things / meditate / social life / new goals / keep smiling / eat healthy food. These can cause happiness-likely feelings but these are not enough to get over a depression or be happy. So yeah. Thanks. I know about these things. These are not helping. I give ppl help and money on the street when they ask it. I buy foods and medication to homeless ppl. I help out the local animal shelter. I miss my exercise, but i ride my bike 2 times a week for more than 1.5 hours. I make long-walks in the nature. Resting: I use internet to disconnect to my daily job for 40-90 minutes a day. I sleep at least 7 hours a day usually i wake up before the alarm. I like to try out new things, Though i don't have the time and the money for it. I'm meditating 2x10 minutes every fucking day. I could work on my social life, but when i go out it board me... PPl talking about silly, meaningless things. I don't have purpose or goals. I had once. But it was crashed by our loved government when they made 40% increase in prices within 6 month. Thanks. Fucking grate! I'm working a lot to make money but what's the point of that after such happenings? There is no point to work for anything any more. I would like to have children but for that i have to have a place to live and for that i have to earn money to be able to pay my rent or get a mortgage, and since i'm an engineer i can make that much money in 25 years that is enough to start a mortgage. If i calculate with the tendency that effects the house prices it would be even more years. I'm 35. When i would be 60y old. I could be able to buy a mortgage that i could not pay back before i die. So no point for working at all. Fuck it! No future! I even lost my appetite. AIR BNB has an 350% inceasing effect on the rent prices. So as an engineer my payment is enough to buy food and pay for a 35 square yard rent and that's it. Still i have no future. Stupid decision. Maybe. But i'm thinking about hanging myself in front of the parliament with a sign that says: you took my future away with the increased house prices - and you took my life away. I bet it worth it. But i'm a fucking coward and i cannot end my life. So i sill in misery and i heart asshole ppl on the street who are pushing me, or just annoying me, because i'm so stressed out. BTW if i would have colored skin i could ask for houses for free. WTF? A jobless gypsy worth more then a developer.
I'm just here to say that these things you wrote were very touching and meaningful for me. I study psychology and your comments are kind of enlightening. I'm not analyzing you or something, these things make think about "normal" people. You remind me of how uncapable is most common people of understanding something as elemental and fundamental to our nature as these feelings of emptyness, and accompany the people that feel them. Most people only have cliches or advice given in the wrong terms, be cause they arent able to understand the experience, what are the real needs of people experiencing it. They aren't able to just connect and feel empathy for the other. They regard this state as an "inferior" state, a casual and temporal thing, that you can just shrug off doing something else with enough intensity. Or, even worse, as a sickness. Fortunately, not all people are like that (and I'm not just talking only about therapists and consuelors). Many nice and caring people are willing to give those feelings a place to be expressed, a place to feel them with out any kind of remorse or judgment, and to be acepted and used like any other feeling. But this knowlege has to be spread and thought. If common people isn't able to give at least some minimum and actually useful help, is because we as a society are psychologicaly inmature. _"ppl try to talk with me to not commit suicides, but if i reveal my problems to them, they are silent and can not offer help. They just using poor cliches to try to look cool"_ _"They dont really care about us. [...] They are living happily enjoying life why would they think? Why would they want to think about others suffering?they only care about having more fun [...] optimists may not be stupid.But they are surely selfish"_ _"they can talk down to us because they know we are the one needing help they have a chance to show how cool they are without actually helping"_
i have more respect for people that choose to wake up the next morning then for people that die and pass their burden onto their close ones. im not here to tell you or to make you happy, in my eyes, your just a first world shit living a confrontable life talking about how you have depression from not getting likes in facebook (of courses not but just to exemplify). i do not know you so your life is meaningless to me or anyone you speak in the internet, don't expect other to give sympathy to you. just like how you think others simply can not fathom the point you're in, the way you think, you may not know that someone that was actually trying help you in your need was fighting a battle bigger than your own but the difference was that unlike you who shunned the people just for asking and trying to help, they actually liked that. I dont care if you've hit rock bottom. i dont care if you want to die. what i care is the way you treat people who are just trying to help. "They just using poor cliches", the narcissistic that you are right now, it feels like you think its others people's jobs to actually give you a reason to live. they don't have to give you a cliche or even talk to you, but they do.
I was suicidal last year when you commented this. Now I'm here and life isn't ideal, but it has gotten so much easier. I actually enjoy the little things now. Take this as a sign that your situation will improve. Just keep living and everything else will happen naturally. Much love to you.
I am going crazy. My brain tells me to kill myself. When I see a car drive past,my brain tell me to run into the road. When I hold or see a knife,my brain tells me to stab myself. My brain just tells me to kill myself using everything. I want to end it...
Pretty much everyone who doesn't spout the commonly accepted social shtick gets called a psychopath on the internet. People in general are intellectually lazy, so they toss around ad hominems to both reassure themselves as well as stop the flow of information that is opposed to their worldview. It is a disposition that is essential to forming productive, satisfying social groups, such as political parties, religions, armies, tribes, and other such constructions that aid in the survival of the human species.
To understand the subconscious mind of another you simply look at the subject of the sentence. "I don't hate you" conveys a completely different message from 'I Love you."
I don't know what to say to you for that that but I'll be damned if I'm going to sit hear an watch you type that! yeah I know things have not always been the best but saying someone made the right choice about committing suicide is beyond sick I suggest you seak help, your gonna need it.
strength can only prolong what is inevitable, realisation and understanding is what turns another page in your book. they dont say get OVER it for nothing.
But the issue is it does not really solve anything, but to leave most closed ones with grief for the rest of their lives, People die every single day and become alive again the next day, life is like a game of throwing heavier things on us as we grow to see how much one can handle, but behind ever obsticle there is a a hidden meaning , and fighting Inspite of all the hopelessness is what makes a difference between a People like Mandela and Gandie, and Mohammad Ali and the rest of us.. If we keep fighting we will realise thar pain it self is crying to us for it is in need of help itself... But nothing is forever not even our suffering, But in the long run pain that scars us becomes our identity and part of our recognition.. I use my pain on guitar and music writing and book writing and I have written some 500 hundred or so incomplete songs and writings and at times I wonder if my heart was not broken twice would it get this far...
@Hope4U Who gives a shit what you think. If you don't want to commit suicide that's fine, not everyone is you though and you shouldn't have a say in what a person does with their life.
I almost killed myself last year due to anxiety and my life but i stopped at last moment many times..the frustration not able to do anything..i just joined gym this year and it gives me some satisfaction and i somehow sleep at night looking forward to same next day
a kid i went to school with who gave me a hard time shot himself recently and i cant wrap my head around it. he was handsome, wealthy, had a good degree, was starting a beautiful family literally picture perfect in my mind. and as adult we interacted only once but he showed me respect and it was all water under the bridge i hope he can learn to forgive himself because i forgive him rip max we weren't friends by any means but i hope the pain is gone now brother.
I've thought of suicide so many times that I've become desensitized at the seriousness of it. I'm like "yes, sooner or later I'm gonna do it, why reach out for help anyways"
I hope your alive and i pray God helps u through your pain it’s gets better ding Jesus and repent today and watch him transform your life for the bettee
Ever since I was a kid I've contemplated it. It still lingers in my mind a lot especially with the sense of disappointment and loneliness that I feel about my life.
Same. I have 40 years of experimenting with my own depression, testing things in the depths of my most extreme lows, I have a sort of depression hack. When you feel it beginning to flood your body, revert to living like it's pre 2000, imagine it's 2000's or eariler. Stop using social media. Pretend there's no internet. Read books and make things instead of buying. Pick a movie night and get popcorn.
I agree. I imagine there have been people that were just bored with life. I plan on doing it some day but the only reason is because I wanna go out according to my own rules. Of course there's no guarantee that will happen.
Suicide may be the only true boon given to us by nature. The ability to end our own suffering. I'm amazed at all the people who come up with all the reasons suicide is so wrong. It's like we value personal freedom unless of course you actually try to use it. That's why in America we've pretty much lost personal freedom.
That's because the freedom we have isn't really freedom. We're forced to stay on this planet so people tell themselves that suffering is a part of life as a coping mechanism
I've thought about suicide everyday since I was about 12 or 13, and I just know that that's how I'm going to leave this world. I see other people imagining themselves doing the cliché things (marrying, having kids, buying a car, etc), progressing with their carriers or education... I just can't "see" what comes next. It feels like I've stopped at the edge of cliff and have been sitting here for ages.
Please just wait it out until you are older, it will get clearer and things change a lot. For example the people you view as successful in life now, will likely take completely different paths than you expected them to and your understanding of how messy and chaotic life is really improves and that we are all struggling and your not alone.
Yes, to the point where it's amusing when other people try to make your day darker on purpose, but their attempt at doing this is really a lighter version than the places you bring yourself, no help necessary. Like really? you think this will make my day dark? It's actually funny because you brought something brighter than the place where I am currently at! 🤣
I'm literally thinking about it because of so many reason...unrealistic love,stress,depression,the past haunting me...even pure boredom. It's weird when you think about that self destructive behaviour
I sort of feel like this channel has a movement in it. Not necessarily a political one but something. it advocates for the same things over and over and seems to have good at it heart even if a lot of people wouldn't click on some of their videos. Although that is a point in itself, take this video for example - many people I know would never click on this because they know someone who has taken their own life and don't want to reflect on it. When really understanding could help them in the future and even go towards stopping it themselves or another community member.
I've noticed that too. It seems to me like they want to foster a positive and informed contemplation of life problems that often get ignored or are otherwise not addressed. That's just the feel I get.
+moytura Moriarty This is a great channel... my own life experience has shown me there are only two paths when living life. The path of fear or the path of love. If fear is chosen (usually automatic for most folks, due to our environments-physical and emotional.) life becomes a series of conversations that support that fear-based mindset, this way we create proof that life is hard and we're all victims. A self-perpetuating cycle begins of attack thoughts, which we then waste our energies on defending. The ego uses all of this drama to validate how bad and awful our lives are. Thus proving life is cruel and hard. The path of love means rising above our meager egos, seeing who we truly are beyond our limited skin bags. If we don't seek to attack, but rather give compassion and forgiveness we have nothing to defend, so we become free to just be present in the moment, rather than consumed by our pettiness and perceived slights on our egos attempting to defend some negative hateful thoughts. This channel speaks to our higher abilities without denigrating our lower ones. We are human, we are a remarkable species upon this planet. We all sink into some form of debauchery and climb out of the pit of despair when we become aware of our unique abilities to shift our consciousness from pain to love. Our perceptions change with our outlooks. We don't have to be victims of our pasts, we can take the gentle reminders from this channel to help us ease out of the divisive "world conversation" that life is hard and unforgiving, into a more inclusive conversation where we are brothers and sisters all deserving to be acknowledged and appreciated for who we are.
I believe their goal is human synergy. I think they want to make man whole again. To get rid of taboos that don't make sense all the while trying to bring humans closer together, to teach people empathy, something we have lost. Ostracization and alienation lead to suicide. When man is no longer apart of the tribe, we break down. We are so much more in common with ants than we think. We need a support group of varied yet united people. Western civilization doesn't have that. I'm sure you notice that the issues this channel represent don't exist in Asia or Eastern Europe. That's why activists display cult like behavior; the revolution is romantic. They face strife with their brothers and sisters in arms, and that is the biggest happiness of man. To join together and fight, even if it's wrong. I think this channel wants to unite people through empathy, actual legitimate caring for one another. It might be possible, but the culture has to be established first.
"Suicidal tendency is great in educated circles, this is due, to the weakening of traditional beliefs and to the state of moral individualism." Émile Durkheim - Suicide
Existentialist Dasein Educated circles look beyond dogma and "traditional beliefs" to find the actual truth of things. Doing so has, traditionally, made them outcasts and pariahs of societies that cling to those beliefs and reject them simply for not believing as they do. Being demonised and hated by a group simply because you do not conform lends itself to feelings of self loathing and worthlessness. We should stop viewing suicide as a selfish act and, instead, as a byproduct of failed social dynamics that prioritize specific features instead of valuing inherent human worth. Empathy is key. Not conservatism.
People who are suicidal believe the only way to end their pain is to end themselves. Others just don’t understand this. That is what makes suicide so prevalent in society today...
I´ve been always intrigued by fates of those who are able to willingly cross the line of mortality. The ability not to cling to life when there is just no more reason to, strucks me as deeply brave, and noble.
it's not always brave, I'm not sure if it's even usually brave. I personally have no will to live. not depressed, just don't feel the desire to live. living is a challenge. while the possibility of fucking up suicide is pretty terrifying, a painless, easy death is as appealing as the thought of taking a warm bath. for those who are actually depressed, I'm sure that feeling is only bolstered by their brain chemistry.
...... or an easy way out leaving family and friends with all the pain and sorrow. What would a mother feel when her son or daughter takes his or her own life. With all the good attempts of putting yourself in her place, it's still unimaginable. I have experienced it very very close by and there is no dignity or bravery in suicide. Life is sometimes a bitch and we all get our shares of shit and have to deal with it !!!
i’ve lived with suicidal thoughts since I was very young this is continued every day of my life I know this next part is gonna set off some people but I’m sorry I believe it’s a human right no one not family friends not anyone has a right to tell someone else what they can or cannot handle.
I don't understand the perspective that suicide is selfish, irrational or that life is a gift. You do not choose to be born. You spend your whole life depressed and don't fit in. You are in constant pain and suffering. What kind of gift is this? How is it not rational to end the misery permanently? Is it not more selfish to want someone to stay alive so they can take care of you? I am setting things up for my family and then I am out. I can take any temporary pain to be out of this world forever.
People are terrified to confront the subject of suicide because it confronts them with the question that life is indeed meaningless. And that even if one is NOT in constant pain and misery. It is also a confrontation to society that all that is promoted as so great about life in this world is actually shit. The technology has certainly been no advance to giving life quality or meaning.
Misconception: Anyone who considers or attempts suicide is being selfish and cowardly. This is a very pervasive stereotype, and also one of the most untrue. People attempt suicide for a variety of reasons, whether that's due to a long history of depression or recent traumas, and oftentimes people in the grip of depression who are considering suicide attempt it out of a desire for it to "all to be over." The best way to help someone who's attempted or is about to attempt suicide is not to tell them they're being 'selfish' or 'inconsiderate', but to assist them in getting the help they need. Sometimes, the suicidal person will feel that they are burdening society with their existence and actually feels selfish for not killing themselves. I did just copy&paste this from the useful notes article on TV Tropes, but all this "you're burdening your family and friends" bullshit I keep hearing needs to stop. It discredits the potentially real issues someone is going through, vilifying them for those issues, and guilt tripping them into not taking their life. Same goes for the "there are people who've suffered more" argument I keep hearing, because it sounds like a defense mechanism to hide someone's lack of empathy and understanding. Describing someone who's worse off doesn't magically make anyone feel better about themselves. It's not a matter of who's suffered more, but of who's suffered and what you can do to help.
I can't deem people who choose suicide as evil, selfish, or weak, but what I can say is that they are putting others in deep distress. Even if one person is sad because of my death, I'm still going to power through. I almost did it once, and I had sent one of my best friends a suicide note. They spread it to every other one of my friends and I came back to see dozens upon dozens of worried frenzied messages. That hit hard, it truly brought me out of the dark cloud that only reflected upon myself, warping everything into darkness and despair; it let me realize that people actually give a shit about me. To anyone reading this, actually considering suicide, please get help. No matter how desolate your situation, as long as you can afford therapy, or have a good friend or family, TALK TO THEM. Don't mope around by yourself, falling deeper into the downward spiral. PUT the effort in to drag yourself out. Don't let yourself fall so deep that no one can help, like so many others i've seen on this comment section.
It’s getting harder everyday to stay every time some small inconvenience happens my immediate thought is suicide,there are days where I just cry myself to sleep, wishing I were someone else.I am alone,I have no friends,my parents doesn’t care about mental health,they refuse to get me therapy because “I haven’t been through anything” you can have a “perfect family, “perfect” friends, “perfect” life and still be depressed or experience suicidal thoughts. But most people don’t get that,so I just pretend I’m happy,fake a smile in every conversation,but I’m tired of pretending to be someone I’m not, I’m tired of my parents,I’m tired having no friends,I’m tired of my life,honestly I’m tired of my existence as a whole.
Why would the default choice be to live? Rather than saying I'm thinking about suicide, I'd say I'm thinking about life. However, I'm not convinced. The very only reason I see not to kill myself is because it would be harsh for my family. Other than that, yeah learning is great, art is awesome, I like sports and staying healthy. I still don't see the point. To live is pretty random. I could not be writing this if I wasn't so scared about the discomforts DIY suicide technics beget.
+Farine ziq read absurdity and suicide by albert camus and you will see why suicide is the wrong choice. there is not a point in living or dying, as in one, objective meaning that everyone will discover. you must make your own meaning, and that is why life is fulfilling. while it is great that your decision not to act upon it is based on your love for your family and other people, the decision is much more stable and satisfying if you are doing it for yourself. life is absurd, we can agree on that. but to escape the absurd is to escape the only thing we know. not only this, but hoping that there is another "life" or that something is beyond what we already know is close to suicide. embrace the absurdity of life and you will be liberated
+thersten Life is random. You don't know what comes next. What's the purpose in expecting to contradict that. Death is restful peace over the alternative.
Suicide can be a rational decision. There are so many people with zero quality of life and without any prospect of happiness. That's why I think that everyone should have access to drugs like pentobarbital. To release oneself from this world of suffering should be a human right.
There are also plenty of people who think that's the case when it's not. Suicide is not usually a rational decision. But I do think that euthanasia suicide should be allowed in cases of terminal illness or through a living will for things like dementia.
MarcusSchmalzlockus They should at least have to take some time and discuss it with a therapist to decide if it's really what they want to do. That's what people who want a sex change have to do. If we don't let people get a sex change operation on a whim, why should we let people commit suicide on a whim?
MarcusSchmalzlockus Finnaly someone who is more smart then 99% of the population. Suicide is a choice an intimate choice. People have done this with rational thinking once they felt that they reached a certain limit of their life. Finnaly someone who understands these things better then most of the people.
After 20 years I think I've found it is a permanent problem so when people give me platitudes about suicide being a permanent solution to a temporary problem. It makes me want to laugh, the problem is and will never go away.
To live is the only chance you have to experience the world around you, to discover the complexity of both the natural world and the human condition. Death is the ultimate violation for it annihilates every chance you could ever have to be happy, to cry, to get angry, to hug your loved ones. Suicide is often a wish one makes because this thing called "life" just isn't for them. There are people who cannot stand the foulness of modern society or the hypocrisy people are drowning in and just give up on the world. There are people who are scared and alone, who were rejected by others because they just couldn't blend in in other's mud made of conformism and idiotic thinking. People don't know how to deal with their emotions, or some situations. Society always forces us to stay strong and overcome problems so we may receive its most delicious fruits, those who cannot or barely can are just left out, in the coldness of "failure". Our society needs to change, it needs to become more compassionate as we ourselves do. We all deserve happiness, it doesn't mean we'll never experience sadness or grief, but at least we deserve that moment in which we can safely say "I am okay". If one cannot, if someone just can't stand the weight of life, just let them go. Let them be at last the master of their own life. Since we as humans are mostly incapable of truly understand each other, for we're always alone in our minds, let's try to be less pretentious and let others be what they want, let's start being what we want. If it won't harm anybody, where's the problem to exist? If existing harms ourselves, it means you're not a problem to be solved, but just someone who simply want to end suffering, at your own terms, and they are perfect.
Kale Jay but there are so many beautiful things in the world to see, listen to... I think we all deserve another chance and just the fact of being alive is a privilege not everyone can afford, therefore we should take advantage of that! & I understand we are free or we should, but try to give yourself a chance, enjoy what you like, and just breath and be, just to try it, to try how it feels, with no thoughts attached... life’s indeed short, now you are here you will get to “the other life” one day but first, now that you have bought your ticket, came to the world, enjoy it, don’t spend more buying another one to leave earlier, that dat will come, don’t rush, enjoy the trip, the present... Just giving my opinion here tho...
but I guess to raise better parents is to raise better sexually active teens. Those who have good parents needs to be shown those who do not, so as to truly appreciate what has been bestowed apon them, and those with "bad" or poor quality parents at least need to see that there are different parents. yours is simply one of them or two.. there are others... everyone has to see how chance had a hand in it, and that you can't win this particular fight with chance.. don't fight too much or take it too much for granted.. cause you didn't earn it. it was by chance....
i started crying at 1:55 because i have none of those in my life and i fear i never will. i hate that i think of my two suicide attempts as failures. why was i delt such a bad hand when i was born with crippling depression and anxiety. how can i accept and be happy with myself when everyone around me is in loving relationships and see so much success in their life? ive never been in a relationship and that lack of experience only convinces myself that ill die alone by my own hands. and now i cant stop crying
Drac I'm praying that you're still here and I'm going through the same exact thing as you are but I'm not giving up on myself. I'll always strive to be better everyday and love those who don't love me. I promised myself I'll see this out until the very end and I plan on doing such. They say if you're going through hell to keep going. Keep Fighting and bettering yourself mentally, spiritually and physically and I PROMISE you that you'll see that light at the end of the tunnel you've been looking for.
How can you tell that to a person that's never had it? Even if what you say is true. Your on the other side of the issue and don't know what it is like in that state, and if you do, I would doubt to what extent. Not to mention different people have different drives. So for some the lack of it may cause little to no problems to others it is unbearable.
Viridian the answer is you don’t tell any one who just cant relate, but instead you tell people who can relate, i wish more people who has mental illnesses would stick together in some way, idk if theres something like that already, and i also dont know how it would even help, maybe it would help with the self acceptance part, maybe status, idk, nvm
People are so hypocritical when they say suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem and when someone kills themselves those same people say that their pain is both permanent and the fault of the person who died. Society always tries to force people to live when they're obviously suffering and spin it as "the way life is"
I have thought about suicide so many times, and the reason was about how hard the life is, and how missed up the world we living in. I reach to the point to there is no purpose of life whatsoever in my point view. Now I am continue living with absolutely no purpose in life.
Then give it a reason. I have one. I have a reason. But IF that so called "reason" dissapers, i... i... I will suicide... I don't want to that happen, but if there will be no one to support me, it will happen... Conclusion: we NEED friends...
Seannn M you could really easily find a reason to live if you look for it, helping others, learning things, environmentalism, love, etc. it's all pointless when you consider that the sun is going to die an all... but It's better than nothing
Thank you Jose Pablo .. and to be honest there is nothing to live for, but now am just keep going with this live cuz when you look closely live is full of pain. I hope one day will better for all humankind :)
I guess a lot of people of native South American decent are still branded by the surnames of their ancestor's Spanish invaders.... (Unless she's on about the plight of the Spanish?... with their Inquisitions, and Conquistadors, and Catholicism, and their Empire....)
I'd like to believe that the purpose of life is to do your best and make good use of what you're given and to help one another make this rotating sphere a better place for the next person and to help each other out in whatever way we can. I'm glad you're here. Please reach out to someone you can trust or a professional. If you need someone to listen, you can give me a message here too.
lol suddenly this comment became active 2 months ago, and I wasn't even notified untill now. And yes I'm still here cause I'm picking up the courage to "go to the garage"
I've had suicidal thoughts multiple times and still do on some days. What helps me on some matters is knowing that while I may not value my life there are plenty of people who value it for me
There is bad in life, where one feels as if one would rather skip the upcoming days. As if one would rather be dead instead of living the upcoming future. But I feel that with time, there can be good in life, again. Times, where one would wish the days had more hours to enjoy and where one would wish to live forever like this. I feel that one main challenge in life is to maintain faith that there will be a future with good times. Things might feel impossible right now, but my experience tells me that seemingly hopeless situations will work out and that seemingly unsolvable, agonizing problems can be resolved.
@@Thaifunn1 "but my experience tells me that seemingly hopeless situations will work out and that seemingly unsolvable, agonizing problems can be resolved." And others' experience tells otherwise.
It really fucking sucks to be conspicuously rejected as an introvert by my extroverted peers at school. And to top it off, my family not giving a damn or not even lending an ear to have me explain every single rough day I go through. I hope I can become genuinely happy again... and this video was truly inspirational.
people always say that suicide is a sign of weakness. but all suicide is showing is that people weren’t getting enough attention from the people who needed to help them. they didn’t notice the signs or the way they were acting. people only ‘care’ about you, when it’s your funeral...
@Never take the Mark of the Beast And you think using the "god loves you" bullshit is going to help anyone? Grown up, enough with this imaginary friend crap.
I frequently ideate about suicide. After three failed attempts I did a ridiculous amount of research and am fairly certain I have a found a method that I am comfortable with. Ironically, this makes it easier for me to keep going, since I know that I have an exit strategy if everything falls apart again. I have also found that writing suicide notes is highly therapeutic because they allow me to be fully honest and open about things since there really is nothing left to lose at that point. Feeling like I need to explain in detail why I choose to die early reminds me of how empathetic I am to those who will be most effected by it, and ironically it tends to make me feel better enough to hold off for another day or two. Sometimes I am feeling good and I can mentally push it out to a few years down the road, other times the best I can do is to force myself to "sleep on it". Unfortunately I struggle a lot with mental illness and physical health issues. Out of the 7 things they listed in this video of people being in need of, I have deficiencies in 5 of those areas. Still, I am doing way better than I was 3 years ago so I am feeling a lot more hopeful than it probably sounds from my post here.
This may sound strange but I find that having an obsession keeps me going: my primary obsession is biochemistry so I always think "What's next?" I always make sure I am watching at least two television serials so I have something to look forward to each week and I am constantly reading so I have an interesting story to follow. It may not be for everyone but I find it keeps me going. Currently I am hooked on Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels and the work of John Le Carré. Watching The Night Manager unfold from the pages each week constantly reminds me that if I keep going there will be more. The wait for The Winds of Winter has kept me going for about a year. I know that putting such investment into a fictional world can seem sad. However, fiction can offer an escape from the trials of daily life. People pour their souls into stories which enrich the lives of others and I am so grateful for that. Thank you to everyone who made these stories: you have saved my life many times.
+Ralph Livingston It gives me something positive to think about. I still get morbid thoughts but I use this kind of thought to keep me going: "The Nobel Prizes are announced soon - don't you want to see who wins?" "I want to see what happens in Game of Thrones next." Then, just before my obsession comes to an end I find something else to be hooked on.
I watched this and I cried. I consider myself a very strong and positive person, always looking for the bright side. I don't get angry easily. When I'm sad, I recover from it the next day. But there are times when I have suicide thoughts, like if I die, I don't have to deal with all these anymore. Comparing to others who are worse off than me only makes me ashamed and guilty of feeling that way. I don't want to kill myself, I know I'm a good person and love myself, it's just that sometimes life is too hard. That's why I turn into something that takes the burden away. I love writing and it saves me every day. I'm able to look forward to a new day, excited to fill a new blank page with words. I guess I'm lucky I've found what I love doing, it's become my purpose to live. Thank you for this video.
6 yrs later and still one of the best videos on suicide. I've moved on to palliative care and finishing my affairs and this is the only vid on the topic that makes sense
Exactly two years ago I decided to leave this life. I stood on the rooftop of my house looking down on the streets for good two hours. It was actually one simple phone call that saved me. I called the suicide hotline and this guys didn’t say that much - he listened to me most of the time. After that phonecall I stood there for two minutes, turned around and took the stairs back down. Today I’m glad that I didn’t do it. I got some things to do in this world... It’s not my time to go yet, not yet....
Some people don't want to commit suicide, they just want to be alive in a sleep like state and not have to deal with the world or anything else for a while.
The opening is really good, those facts are incredible and really explains our collective denial that perhaps there's a problem with the competitive and violent ways we live.
Why we condemn suicide? i mean, the only way to achieve true happiness is when you are dead. No more thoughts and feelings, struggle and sufferings, all of those vanish. And all that left is a peacefulness so serene you dont even know you are not existing anymore. Life become non-life again just like the way it is before it was born to this world. A life that is not chosen.
No. You are not left with peacefulness. You are left with nothing. Suicide is a permanent response to temporary grief and suffering. There is always calm after the storm
+Hamsaphina the reason is they cant handle a short [relative] term problem, killing your self is a perment answer to a short term problem, if you keep at it you will find at least a little happiness
So sad, yet so true. I often find myself wondering if it were better if I were ... nonexistent. I think this by the fact that it would make so many people happy, whether it be future people or past. But I still pull myself back, remembering how many people would be in grief over my loss, and remember that there's still good things in the world, and that if I keep going I'll one day find it.
I have firmly decided to end my life on my own terms and will do it with dignity. I have failed in pretty much all aspects in my life, but, I am going to wait till my parents pass away. I will take care of them when they need me and once they go, I will go too. I cannot live alone, I know I will be miserable. With no husband and children to my name, I find no one to look forward to. Sounds very needy and clingy, but I cannot be miserable without a family to look after. I am not ashamed of this decision that I have made. It actually helps me feel better that I will not be miserable and alone. It's the harshest and hardest decision I have ever made in my life.
I find it quite ironic that the comments on this video are so nasty after Alain just explained that we need to be more compassionate to one another. Suicide should never be an option, but we can't judge someone elses decision when we never knew the pain they were enduring. Collectively as a society we can help by treating each other better. If you see someone looking lost or alone say hi to them and ask them how are you? A small gesture can make a world of difference for someone struggling and the very fact that you acknowledged them as a human being can put a positive spin on their day. I hope this comment can reach people and even make just a small difference. Take care people 😊✌
True, I read about a golden gate bridge jumper who just wanted someone to smile at him. They didn't and he jumped...Thank God he lived! He said he regretted his decision as soon as he was over the edge!
If suicide weren't an option, I would be in so much pain right now. Thinking about suicide gives me relief when I see things out of my control that will cause great pain and grief..
I needed this video so much. I've been thinking about it a lot lately because of mental health/being extremely behind in school/not having any talents/ not having any friends/ and just in general not seeing any meaning or true joy in my life anymore. I feel suffocated because if I talk about this to anyone they just immediately just would say to get help, when communication with people we're close to rather than just therapists and whatnot is so important, because there is that connection that we don't have with strangers. I never used to feel this way, and I'm sure so many never would if it weren't for the fact that society bases value upon things like intelligence, money and status, rather than kindness, understanding of others or love. I feel as though I don't belong in a kind of world like this, and I know so many others do for all these reasons. I realize that everyone is so completely alone, since birth all the way to death, in their thoughts, beliefs and dreams. To be a person is to be alone, as much as it hurts. Beyond all this though, I have to believe we will eventually find something to live for each day. Keep holding on, we're all in this together.
As someone who suffers from depression and who's attempted suicide I can attest to the value of those seven qualities you mentioned and their ability to save lives.
I sincerely wish to be there for those contemplating on ending their lives. 2 of my cousins did so and for one of them it was because of girlfriend who left him. It was devastating for my whole family when we heard about it, he was only 19. At that age he didn't realize there is so much more in life than just relationships..Thanks School of Life for making so meaningful content.
I love the compassion given in school of life... its very reaching and this one makes me weep.... humanity at it's best... feel sad for those so desperate to do such a thing though I know I have felt so super low at times in my life but fond it is so good to listen to Alain De Botton and crew on many aspects. I enjoy the concepts and certainly gets me reflecting a lot in a good way. Thank you
SCARSSURVIVED i think its normal to have different phases in which you think differently about your life and whether one should keep living it. i too, sometimes think about how unsignificant and absurd my or anyone elses life is but theres so much worth living for, so much to gain if youve got the right mindset, so much to experience and so much change to be made in the world and i wouldnt swap it for being dead longer
dumb gal You know what ....your comment was actually heartwarming, nice to feel there are people what keep on going despite all the pointlessness in life . Maybe getting a goal set our mindset differently, so we not seen each others as just atoms?
Great vid. It's sometimes good to rationalise things. As much as you can rationalise suicide. I stood and just watched my world crumble into nothing this year. I've had depression for a while to varying degrees of severity but this year opened up a pandora's box of all my life's failures and regrets that on the one hand took me to the darkest place i've been, but also taught me more about life than I've ever learnt. During the very worst of times I stayed in bed for days and weeks on end with the curtains shut. No concept of time anymore. Then at that very moment I hit rock bottom I had some sort of realisation. I don't know why but I suddenly realised that in that moment I owed nobody anything anymore. The world had rejected my love and so in an instant I shook off all those things, material and non-material that I had built every aspect of my life around. All the misplaced expectation and faith in things and people that in the end, were nowhere to be found when I needed them...I realised that the process of losing all this meant that really, it was a process of becoming free of the emotional bonds that chained me to false hope, fake security, contrived love.......it left me truly free to begin healing myself again, from the very ground up. Building myself from scratch again without the interference of 28 years of life. More importantly, it allowed me to let those that truly loved me, back in....it allowed me to rebuild those relationships to something even stronger, because I have finally allowed my entire being, to give all my love and dedication to the few things and people that were real. So now, I see those days not as a negative thing, but as process that allowed a death and rebirth of sorts. A process that afforded me the ability to emerge almost like a newborn baby. I'm still recovering, but every day I get a little better. There are setbacks, but I follow my routine and I remember that the things and people I need to survive will always be there with me, unconditionally. Now I don't know what the point of my post even really is...but I guess what I want to say is that everybody needs to reduce the noise. By that I mean the things in life that just dilute your love and energy, and good feelings. The things that don't deserve your time and energy but you think they do. I can promise you that if you can see a way out of those bindings, then there's hope. Know that others have shared a great pain and have made it out of the other side. Peace.
I lost count of the many times suicide was on my mind.
Katrina S Lately, I've haven't thought of suicide lately, but before that I thought about suicide every single day for most of this year and more than a couple of times through the years.
Katrina S Thanks, it's definitely a work in progress
same
“Should I kill myself, or have a cup of coffee?” Albert Camus
+Reginald Pippin i hope u get better soon
If you've never been suicidal, you'll never understand why people do it.
THANKYOU
exactly, i completely lack of the seven qualities, there is nothing that psychologists can do on my case, want to suicide and only don't do it because is painful.
Danny Butler I’m a bit afraid that I can understand it too well. Perhaps it’s time for me to come to the realisation that I have been or is depressed
Danny Butler true
You're only half right. People who study psychology and have experienced a friendship with someone suicidal (that talks about it) can understand why. I think what you meant is that they can't relate to the feeling.
I wish I could just sleep forever.
Propofol od i guess
If you don't have aboyfriend
@@itzcomedyss4086 nah, i do have one
I wish I could lucid dream forever
@@Kosni_bmj me too i hate when I have a good dream but then I wake up an wish I didn't
to force another to die is murder.
to force another to live is torture.
Koldatt DAYUM
Yes!
I know it. Life is torture.
I want to be in the other world already.
@Anarchist Zero I earn a lot of money but life is still torture. No one likes me. I have no friends. Probably because I get extremely violent if someone offends me. BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO ASHAME ME IN THE PUBLIC. I HAD ENOUGH.
Upon my inevitable suicide my note will read as follows:
Reason: Other.
+Urist McPoster why inevitable?
fetus asparagus good question.
+Urist McPoster Do you have a good answer?
+Jalen Anderson does it matter?
+Urist McPoster
You already said the reason. "Other". I thought it was a good answer.
Though at this point I think you should reconsider, because you seem ok. But I guess I don't really know.
If suicide was easy and painless, I would have done it already. Come on science.
Yep... Spot On!
It could be easy and painless, but our capitalist overlords intentionally dont give us the tools, like for example secobarbital, because we are an investment and a "human resource" to them.
Same
Fentanyl overdose is probably the only painless way to go
@Mercy so is heroin..
But yeah fentanyl is better option..,Carfentanil is best...
" Thinking of suicide is what kept me alive all this time long "
Otama Mama lol good point, i think she meant that the thought of choosing to leave this world has made her comfortable with her pain, the thought that she can end it whenever she wants..
i hate when people say that suicide is selfish because u make your pain go away but then make everybody around u hurt as well, saying "oh he didn't even think about his friends and family" is like saying "I don't give a shit that he was in so much pain that he rathered not to exist anymore, how could he be such an inconvenience to our happiness?"
No, it isn't a matter of hypocrisy and another sense of selfishness. I know how it is to have suicidal thoughts. Even now, I struggle with them. I'm in a dark abyss with no help. But I'm not going to just end my life. Each and every one of us are unique as individuals. We all were here for a substantial reason. Ending your life would give the love, support, memories, and everything that both you and people held dearly to loss. It follows the same pattern of something like a big business project that took years of hard work and dedication, only for it to be scrapped due to a problem or so. I know things are hard, and they may even get harder, but isn't that what life is? For whatever greater meaning, whether there is one or not, it is to test us and strengthen us collectively as a whole.
There is more than it being selfish. That is beyond a doubt. But you're hurting both you and those who have cared immensely for you by doing such an action. Whether you have an extrovert or introverted look on life, you have to see that there are other options, no matter how deep or terrible things may be.
People will truly never understand if they’ve been fortunate enough to never have suicidal thoughts.
You might have thoughts and still be riddled with the guilt and back thought of providing grief to your friends and family and just peers around you once you leave.
But... there also comes a certain point where your own existence and burdening thoughts become so heavy that no matter the consequences you can no longer feel that guilt keeping you here. You don’t care about the pain you’ll give your mother, or sister or best friend or (ex) lover. It doesn’t matter to you because you’re so apathetic you can no longer sympathize their greatest grief. It’s awful, I know it is. But I speak from experience.
So yes, perhaps to an outsider, it’s selfish, and it’s completely understandable. But there is a point where you’re so far gone and weighed down that your own consciousness can no longer process or even comprehend or care about others, because you’re gone.
There is no way to validate suicide, I’m not defending it by any means, but I’m trying to provide reasoning and understanding for those who are privileged enough to never quite get it.
It is more than acceptable to play Devil's Advocate.
And yes, that mental cloud and vision can be one to blind you, me, and us all, if I am to be honest.
However, I just know there is a glimmer of hope and light to rid of this lack of vision. Life is a mess. There is no doubt to that. It is full of hate, bigotry, divide, whatever the case may be. But there is always something to look to. Something to keep you going. It may not be visible now, but you have to venture deeper into the abyss if you are to find it. It won't come to you, rather, you have to come to it. Go, and seek forth, until you find this hope. This help. This guidance.
No matter it's quantity or size, it's quality should give the aspiration and drive to get you out of this rough situation.
I thank you for this approach, as seeing the other side of the table is a healthy and plentiful approach to society. One I appreciate so highly.
Thank you, Annie.
Annieeeeeee, I have this thought everytime people call suicide selfish as well, thank you.
When you think you got over depression, but it keeps on coming back.
RejectChannelIUseForCommenting thats me everyday
Well obviously you have a smart way of thinking, and stick through it :)
RejectChannelIUseForCommenting facts
RejectChannelIUseForCommenting been experiencing this a lot lately. I was so depressed for so long and in the past was having severe depression symptoms and anxiety and panic attacks and self destructive behavior. And I’d thought I’d for the most part gotten over the worst of those issues and it was in the past (was like 5 years ago) but i feel as though the issues have been here the whole time still, they’d just been dulled down a little and can easily sharpen at any moment
Emily Meatball how are you doing now?
I don't understand why ppl try to talk with me to not commit suicides, but if i reveal my problems to them, they are silent and can not offer help. They just using poor cliches to try to look cool and they try to detach themselves from the point that life has no meaning because they try to give pointless meanings for their life what is not available on my level.
A youth without a future = increase of suicidal tendencies.
Give / Help / Move / tracking / rest / try new things / meditate / social life / new goals / keep smiling / eat healthy food.
These can cause happiness-likely feelings but these are not enough to get over a depression or be happy.
So yeah. Thanks. I know about these things. These are not helping.
I give ppl help and money on the street when they ask it. I buy foods and medication to homeless ppl. I help out the local animal shelter. I miss my exercise, but i ride my bike 2 times a week for more than 1.5 hours. I make long-walks in the nature. Resting: I use internet to disconnect to my daily job for 40-90 minutes a day. I sleep at least 7 hours a day usually i wake up before the alarm. I like to try out new things, Though i don't have the time and the money for it. I'm meditating 2x10 minutes every fucking day. I could work on my social life, but when i go out it board me... PPl talking about silly, meaningless things. I don't have purpose or goals. I had once. But it was crashed by our loved government when they made 40% increase in prices within 6 month. Thanks. Fucking grate! I'm working a lot to make money but what's the point of that after such happenings? There is no point to work for anything any more. I would like to have children but for that i have to have a place to live and for that i have to earn money to be able to pay my rent or get a mortgage, and since i'm an engineer i can make that much money in 25 years that is enough to start a mortgage. If i calculate with the tendency that effects the house prices it would be even more years. I'm 35. When i would be 60y old. I could be able to buy a mortgage that i could not pay back before i die. So no point for working at all. Fuck it! No future! I even lost my appetite.
AIR BNB has an 350% inceasing effect on the rent prices. So as an engineer my payment is enough to buy food and pay for a 35 square yard rent and that's it.
Still i have no future.
Stupid decision. Maybe. But i'm thinking about hanging myself in front of the parliament with a sign that says: you took my future away with the increased house prices - and you took my life away. I bet it worth it.
But i'm a fucking coward and i cannot end my life. So i sill in misery and i heart asshole ppl on the street who are pushing me, or just annoying me, because i'm so stressed out.
BTW if i would have colored skin i could ask for houses for free. WTF? A jobless gypsy worth more then a developer.
I'm just here to say that these things you wrote were very touching and meaningful for me. I study psychology and your comments are kind of enlightening.
I'm not analyzing you or something, these things make think about "normal" people. You remind me of how uncapable is most common people of understanding something as elemental and fundamental to our nature as these feelings of emptyness, and accompany the people that feel them.
Most people only have cliches or advice given in the wrong terms, be cause they arent able to understand the experience, what are the real needs of people experiencing it. They aren't able to just connect and feel empathy for the other.
They regard this state as an "inferior" state, a casual and temporal thing, that you can just shrug off doing something else with enough intensity. Or, even worse, as a sickness.
Fortunately, not all people are like that (and I'm not just talking only about therapists and consuelors). Many nice and caring people are willing to give those feelings a place to be expressed, a place to feel them with out any kind of remorse or judgment, and to be acepted and used like any other feeling.
But this knowlege has to be spread and thought. If common people isn't able to give at least some minimum and actually useful help, is because we as a society are psychologicaly inmature.
_"ppl try to talk with me to not commit suicides, but if i reveal my problems to them, they are silent and can not offer help. They just using poor cliches to try to look cool"_
_"They dont really care about us. [...] They are living happily enjoying life why would they think? Why would they want to think about others suffering?they only care about having more fun [...] optimists may not be stupid.But they are surely selfish"_
_"they can talk down to us because they know we are the one needing help
they have a chance to show how cool they are without actually helping"_
i have more respect for people that choose to wake up the next morning then for people that die and pass their burden onto their close ones.
im not here to tell you or to make you happy, in my eyes, your just a first world shit living a confrontable life talking about how you have depression from not getting likes in facebook (of courses not but just to exemplify). i do not know you so your life is meaningless to me or anyone you speak in the internet, don't expect other to give sympathy to you. just like how you think others simply can not fathom the point you're in, the way you think, you may not know that someone that was actually trying help you in your need was fighting a battle bigger than your own but the difference was that unlike you who shunned the people just for asking and trying to help, they actually liked that.
I dont care if you've hit rock bottom. i dont care if you want to die. what i care is the way you treat people who are just trying to help. "They just using poor cliches", the narcissistic that you are right now, it feels like you think its others people's jobs to actually give you a reason to live. they don't have to give you a cliche or even talk to you, but they do.
Yeah - i'm crying because i don't get enough likes on fb. That's clever.
you are egotistical.
"Suicide" Recommended for You... Well Thanks UA-cam.
Dawood Aleem lol
Nooooooooooo
Lol
damn
I’ve come to expect that kind of thing. 😔
I really just want to disappear right now
I was suicidal last year when you commented this. Now I'm here and life isn't ideal, but it has gotten so much easier. I actually enjoy the little things now. Take this as a sign that your situation will improve. Just keep living and everything else will happen naturally. Much love to you.
We should make protests and ask our government to make suicide is legal Other wise , we have to make riot
MrEwamasa, You’re right, suicide should be legal. If somebody wants to die for their own reasons, let them for god’s sake.
I am going crazy. My brain tells me to kill myself. When I see a car drive past,my brain tell me to run into the road. When I hold or see a knife,my brain tells me to stab myself. My brain just tells me to kill myself using everything. I want to end it...
I know what you mean..I feel you..Hugs..
Has anyone else noticed that "other" is partly responsible for almost every single problem we have?
Indeed. Someone in Washington should do something to address this "Other" epidemic.
Pretty much everyone who doesn't spout the commonly accepted social shtick gets called a psychopath on the internet. People in general are intellectually lazy, so they toss around ad hominems to both reassure themselves as well as stop the flow of information that is opposed to their worldview.
It is a disposition that is essential to forming productive, satisfying social groups, such as political parties, religions, armies, tribes, and other such constructions that aid in the survival of the human species.
This discussion doesn't seem too intelligent. What are you people disagreeing about?
To understand the subconscious mind of another you simply look at the subject of the sentence. "I don't hate you" conveys a completely different message from 'I Love you."
This is such a philosophical statement. Love it
I've lost a friend to suicide. I've been missing him for 24 years.
im sorry to hear that. best wishes :)
oh jeez...
Dude, Just let him go. Let old ghost rest.
Dude, let they guy miss his friend. It's beautiful that people are able to remember and miss people. It truly shows the unbreakable bond one can have.
I don't know what to say to you for that that but I'll be damned if I'm going to sit hear an watch you type that! yeah I know things have not always been the best but saying someone made the right choice about committing suicide is beyond sick I suggest you seak help, your gonna need it.
Life is hard it's like we are paying the price just by being alive
And then we are shamed if we chose to leave
Exactly
@@oMehrcy 😣😣😞😖
You have to literally pay for everything and I mean everything. It's insane really
The fact that I'm here involuntarily and I'm not really allowed to leave because of egotism is bugging my mind too damn much.
YES!
exactly!!!
This is the most relatable thing I’ve ever read across UA-cam
Strength to every single one of you unique people
strength can only prolong what is inevitable, realisation and understanding is what turns another page in your book. they dont say get OVER it for nothing.
WeirdoOverlord 2 None of us are unique. That's the problem. We're just grist for the mill. Nothing more.Especially if you're male.
There are some real downers in this comment thread.
Who shat in your cereal @coconut bliss @James Estrada?
Luka Miskovic Just calling it as I see it. If life has been great for you well then......
yes, unfortunately commenting difficulties on a youtube video reduces those problems
I don't know how much longer I can live like this.
Please tell me you're still here
King Wewuz ok, thanks for letting us know.
hope youre doing better
Still here? Wanna talk?
I second that motion!!
It's interesting that we see suicide as _self-harm_ when from the perspective of the desperately tormented it's a cure.
yess
i myself wouldn‘t say i try to cure myself. it‘s rather a way to end suffering and stress and anxiety, but for a great great price.
But the issue is it does not really solve anything, but to leave most closed ones with grief for the rest of their lives,
People die every single day and become alive again the next day, life is like a game of throwing heavier things on us as we grow to see how much one can handle, but behind ever obsticle there is a a hidden meaning , and fighting Inspite of all the hopelessness is what makes a difference between a
People like Mandela and Gandie, and Mohammad Ali and the rest of us..
If we keep fighting we will realise thar pain it self is crying to us for it is in need of help itself...
But nothing is forever not even our suffering,
But in the long run pain that scars us becomes our identity and part of our recognition..
I use my pain on guitar and music writing and book writing and I have written some 500 hundred or so incomplete songs and writings and at times I wonder if my heart was not broken twice would it get this far...
@@mansoor7571 Ugh what a stupid comment.
@Hope4U Who gives a shit what you think. If you don't want to commit suicide that's fine, not everyone is you though and you shouldn't have a say in what a person does with their life.
I have lonelinees and i feel like nobody loves me.
Better is death than a dumb life
Well said
Agreed
ChocCroc Gacha couldn’t agree more
Death is better than ANY life.
Same here
I almost killed myself last year due to anxiety and my life but i stopped at last moment many times..the frustration not able to do anything..i just joined gym this year and it gives me some satisfaction and i somehow sleep at night looking forward to same next day
my love and wishes :)
☺
hey man keep it up
Give your beautiful testimony to other people, it may help to save a life. God is good, thank you for sharing.
Thank you for the support :)
a kid i went to school with who gave me a hard time shot himself recently and i cant wrap my head around it. he was handsome, wealthy, had a good degree, was starting a beautiful family literally picture perfect in my mind. and as adult we interacted only once but he showed me respect and it was all water under the bridge i hope he can learn to forgive himself because i forgive him rip max we weren't friends by any means but i hope the pain is gone now brother.
I've thought of suicide so many times that I've become desensitized at the seriousness of it. I'm like "yes, sooner or later I'm gonna do it, why reach out for help anyways"
I hope your alive and i pray God helps u through your pain it’s gets better ding Jesus and repent today and watch him transform your life for the bettee
ever look up at the stars and wonder why
Martial Sunwalk no
HG Tudor
Why are you asking UA-cam, go Google it.
The Wanderer mixing opiates, benzos and alcohol would be painless
No.
I look up at the stars and see the endless black around them.
Ever since I was a kid I've contemplated it. It still lingers in my mind a lot especially with the sense of disappointment and loneliness that I feel about my life.
Same.
I have 40 years of experimenting with my own depression, testing things in the depths of my most extreme lows, I have a sort of depression hack. When you feel it beginning to flood your body, revert to living like it's pre 2000, imagine it's 2000's or eariler.
Stop using social media. Pretend there's no internet. Read books and make things instead of buying. Pick a movie night and get popcorn.
Same. Since second grade
That "Other" bothered me. Should have explored that slice of the pie in this video.
Why? i guess its shit like taking LSD and thinking you can fly.
Happened to me yesterday. I've died 12 times.
I agree. I imagine there have been people that were just bored with life. I plan on doing it some day but the only reason is because I wanna go out according to my own rules. Of course there's no guarantee that will happen.
+Haye Zette Thanks. I approve of me, too. 😊
when someone commits suicide he has multiple important issues. so that slice pie is nonsense.
I'm not afraid to die, I'm afraid of living the rest of my life in pain.
Suicide may be the only true boon given to us by nature. The ability to end our own suffering. I'm amazed at all the people who come up with all the reasons suicide is so wrong. It's like we value personal freedom unless of course you actually try to use it. That's why in America we've pretty much lost personal freedom.
Agreed.
That's because the freedom we have isn't really freedom. We're forced to stay on this planet so people tell themselves that suffering is a part of life as a coping mechanism
i dont see the point of life if so many want to die but can't
hangman is great. it teaches people that saying wrong things can lead to death
Z... *dies*
Oh wow that changed my view of that hangman game. It's actually a pretty deep one!
woah!! thats very profound!! do I have permission to steal this statement?
Crazy German wtf
Bruh...
I've thought about suicide everyday since I was about 12 or 13, and I just know that that's how I'm going to leave this world. I see other people imagining themselves doing the cliché things (marrying, having kids, buying a car, etc), progressing with their carriers or education... I just can't "see" what comes next. It feels like I've stopped at the edge of cliff and have been sitting here for ages.
Please just wait it out until you are older, it will get clearer and things change a lot. For example the people you view as successful in life now, will likely take completely different paths than you expected them to and your understanding of how messy and chaotic life is really improves and that we are all struggling and your not alone.
I feel you, i really does horrible things to person...
hope you're doing a bit better nowadays
Your mind can go to unbelievably dark places..
Yes, to the point where it's amusing when other people try to make your day darker on purpose, but their attempt at doing this is really a lighter version than the places you bring yourself, no help necessary. Like really? you think this will make my day dark? It's actually funny because you brought something brighter than the place where I am currently at! 🤣
I'm literally thinking about it because of so many reason...unrealistic love,stress,depression,the past haunting me...even pure boredom. It's weird when you think about that self destructive behaviour
I sort of feel like this channel has a movement in it. Not necessarily a political one but something. it advocates for the same things over and over and seems to have good at it heart even if a lot of people wouldn't click on some of their videos. Although that is a point in itself, take this video for example - many people I know would never click on this because they know someone who has taken their own life and don't want to reflect on it. When really understanding could help them in the future and even go towards stopping it themselves or another community member.
Empathy?
I've noticed that too. It seems to me like they want to foster a positive and informed contemplation of life problems that often get ignored or are otherwise not addressed. That's just the feel I get.
***** I see what you did there :3
+moytura Moriarty This is a great channel... my own life experience has shown me there are only two paths when living life. The path of fear or the path of love. If fear is chosen (usually automatic for most folks, due to our environments-physical and emotional.) life becomes a series of conversations that support that fear-based mindset, this way we create proof that life is hard and we're all victims. A self-perpetuating cycle begins of attack thoughts, which we then waste our energies on defending. The ego uses all of this drama to validate how bad and awful our lives are. Thus proving life is cruel and hard.
The path of love means rising above our meager egos, seeing who we truly are beyond our limited skin bags. If we don't seek to attack, but rather give compassion and forgiveness we have nothing to defend, so we become free to just be present in the moment, rather than consumed by our pettiness and perceived slights on our egos attempting to defend some negative hateful thoughts.
This channel speaks to our higher abilities without denigrating our lower ones. We are human, we are a remarkable species upon this planet. We all sink into some form of debauchery and climb out of the pit of despair when we become aware of our unique abilities to shift our consciousness from pain to love. Our perceptions change with our outlooks. We don't have to be victims of our pasts, we can take the gentle reminders from this channel to help us ease out of the divisive "world conversation" that life is hard and unforgiving, into a more inclusive conversation where we are brothers and sisters all deserving to be acknowledged and appreciated for who we are.
I believe their goal is human synergy. I think they want to make man whole again. To get rid of taboos that don't make sense all the while trying to bring humans closer together, to teach people empathy, something we have lost.
Ostracization and alienation lead to suicide. When man is no longer apart of the tribe, we break down. We are so much more in common with ants than we think. We need a support group of varied yet united people. Western civilization doesn't have that. I'm sure you notice that the issues this channel represent don't exist in Asia or Eastern Europe.
That's why activists display cult like behavior; the revolution is romantic. They face strife with their brothers and sisters in arms, and that is the biggest happiness of man. To join together and fight, even if it's wrong.
I think this channel wants to unite people through empathy, actual legitimate caring for one another. It might be possible, but the culture has to be established first.
"Suicidal tendency is great in educated circles, this is due, to the weakening of traditional beliefs and to the state of moral individualism."
Émile Durkheim - Suicide
Existentialist Dasein Here's a dimension of suicide worth pondering over.
Existentialist Dasein people be lonely
Existentialist Dasein Educated circles look beyond dogma and "traditional beliefs" to find the actual truth of things. Doing so has, traditionally, made them outcasts and pariahs of societies that cling to those beliefs and reject them simply for not believing as they do.
Being demonised and hated by a group simply because you do not conform lends itself to feelings of self loathing and worthlessness.
We should stop viewing suicide as a selfish act and, instead, as a byproduct of failed social dynamics that prioritize specific features instead of valuing inherent human worth.
Empathy is key. Not conservatism.
Stella blue Thank you.
I try. Not all the time but sometimes.
+Knox Quinn "I try. Not all the time but sometimes." damn i wish i put that as my quote in my yearbook. it suits me perfectly.
When you constantly think about committing suicide but you’re not strong enough to actually do it so you just live in pain
powerful statement
You are strong for staying alive weakness is wanting to opt out
This
@@1sgr1999 That is false, no one is "strong" for staying alive, that saying it nothing more than a logical Fallacy
@@1sgr1999 That is a logical Fallacy
People who are suicidal believe the only way to end their pain is to end themselves. Others just don’t understand this. That is what makes suicide so prevalent in society today...
I'd say something, but then I'd just be accused of looking for attention.
What's wrong with looking for attention?
Dude, You are just looking for attention for saying that you would say something but then remain silent.
you have got attention anyways so just say it -_-
When it's a video about suicide, anyone who says you're looking for attention is not worth noting the existence of
People need human attention, don't shame them for it.
I´ve been always intrigued by fates of those who are able to willingly cross the line of mortality. The ability not to cling to life when there is just no more reason to, strucks me as deeply brave, and noble.
Im sure you have some gems to say about those that say Noooo!!!! its the cowards way out!!!
it's not always brave, I'm not sure if it's even usually brave. I personally have no will to live. not depressed, just don't feel the desire to live. living is a challenge. while the possibility of fucking up suicide is pretty terrifying, a painless, easy death is as appealing as the thought of taking a warm bath. for those who are actually depressed, I'm sure that feeling is only bolstered by their brain chemistry.
+roodles so true I agree I do Not have any desire to live in this society or time
...... or an easy way out leaving family and friends with all the pain and sorrow.
What would a mother feel when her son or daughter takes his or her own life.
With all the good attempts of putting yourself in her place, it's still unimaginable.
I have experienced it very very close by and there is no dignity or bravery in suicide.
Life is sometimes a bitch and we all get our shares of shit and have to deal with it !!!
+RS I agree with you. but my mom is dead, and looking back I realize that she would've felt very sad.
i’ve lived with suicidal thoughts since I was very young this is continued every day of my life I know this next part is gonna set off some people but I’m sorry I believe it’s a human right no one not family friends not anyone has a right to tell someone else what they can or cannot handle.
this!
I don't understand the perspective that suicide is selfish, irrational or that life is a gift. You do not choose to be born. You spend your whole life depressed and don't fit in. You are in constant pain and suffering. What kind of gift is this? How is it not rational to end the misery permanently? Is it not more selfish to want someone to stay alive so they can take care of you? I am setting things up for my family and then I am out. I can take any temporary pain to be out of this world forever.
Glad to see another that understands it, I'll finish my duty and then I'm out.
hope something beautiful showed up for you. no denying the suffering but that's not all of it. there ought to be more
I feel the same. For me commit suicide used to be a emotional thing, now I just think it's the most rational choice.
this is a justification i agree with
People are terrified to confront the subject of suicide because it confronts them with the question that life is indeed meaningless. And that even if one is NOT in constant pain and misery.
It is also a confrontation to society that all that is promoted as so great about life in this world is actually shit.
The technology has certainly been no advance to giving life quality or meaning.
I don't think I've ever heard the word other said in such a cold way
Misconception: Anyone who considers or attempts suicide is being selfish and cowardly.
This is a very pervasive stereotype, and also one of the most untrue. People attempt suicide for a variety of reasons, whether that's due to a long history of depression or recent traumas, and oftentimes people in the grip of depression who are considering suicide attempt it out of a desire for it to "all to be over." The best way to help someone who's attempted or is about to attempt suicide is not to tell them they're being 'selfish' or 'inconsiderate', but to assist them in getting the help they need. Sometimes, the suicidal person will feel that they are burdening society with their existence and actually feels selfish for not killing themselves.
I did just copy&paste this from the useful notes article on TV Tropes, but all this "you're burdening your family and friends" bullshit I keep hearing needs to stop. It discredits the potentially real issues someone is going through, vilifying them for those issues, and guilt tripping them into not taking their life. Same goes for the "there are people who've suffered more" argument I keep hearing, because it sounds like a defense mechanism to hide someone's lack of empathy and understanding. Describing someone who's worse off doesn't magically make anyone feel better about themselves. It's not a matter of who's suffered more, but of who's suffered and what you can do to help.
True
SquareoftheLightOnes
I think offing yourself is selfish and irrational, but I think that the suicide-dee is rarely selfish him/herself
Thank you!!!
I can't deem people who choose suicide as evil, selfish, or weak, but what I can say is that they are putting others in deep distress. Even if one person is sad because of my death, I'm still going to power through. I almost did it once, and I had sent one of my best friends a suicide note. They spread it to every other one of my friends and I came back to see dozens upon dozens of worried frenzied messages.
That hit hard, it truly brought me out of the dark cloud that only reflected upon myself, warping everything into darkness and despair; it let me realize that people actually give a shit about me.
To anyone reading this, actually considering suicide, please get help. No matter how desolate your situation, as long as you can afford therapy, or have a good friend or family, TALK TO THEM. Don't mope around by yourself, falling deeper into the downward spiral. PUT the effort in to drag yourself out. Don't let yourself fall so deep that no one can help, like so many others i've seen on this comment section.
@@ponponpatapon9670 Thank you, I'll try my best to say in this world longer.
someone told me I would die alone. We all die alone. It is living alone that is the pain. Dying is better.
It’s getting harder everyday to stay every time some small inconvenience happens my immediate thought is suicide,there are days where I just cry myself to sleep, wishing I were someone else.I am alone,I have no friends,my parents doesn’t care about mental health,they refuse to get me therapy because “I haven’t been through anything” you can have a “perfect family, “perfect” friends, “perfect” life and still be depressed or experience suicidal thoughts. But most people don’t get that,so I just pretend I’m happy,fake a smile in every conversation,but I’m tired of pretending to be someone I’m not, I’m tired of my parents,I’m tired having no friends,I’m tired of my life,honestly I’m tired of my existence as a whole.
Why would the default choice be to live? Rather than saying I'm thinking about suicide, I'd say I'm thinking about life. However, I'm not convinced.
The very only reason I see not to kill myself is because it would be harsh for my family. Other than that, yeah learning is great, art is awesome, I like sports and staying healthy. I still don't see the point. To live is pretty random. I could not be writing this if I wasn't so scared about the discomforts DIY suicide technics beget.
+Farine ziq read absurdity and suicide by albert camus and you will see why suicide is the wrong choice. there is not a point in living or dying, as in one, objective meaning that everyone will discover. you must make your own meaning, and that is why life is fulfilling. while it is great that your decision not to act upon it is based on your love for your family and other people, the decision is much more stable and satisfying if you are doing it for yourself. life is absurd, we can agree on that. but to escape the absurd is to escape the only thing we know. not only this, but hoping that there is another "life" or that something is beyond what we already know is close to suicide. embrace the absurdity of life and you will be liberated
J-Rod Musik Thanks! I just found a version in my native language, I'll read it.
+Farine ziq How can nothingness be a better choice than life?
+thersten Life is random. You don't know what comes next. What's the purpose in expecting to contradict that. Death is restful peace over the alternative.
BastianBB Rest is for the tired. I ain't tired yet. Not even close.
Suicide can be a rational decision. There are so many people with zero quality of life and without any prospect of happiness. That's why I think that everyone should have access to drugs like pentobarbital. To release oneself from this world of suffering should be a human right.
There are also plenty of people who think that's the case when it's not. Suicide is not usually a rational decision.
But I do think that euthanasia suicide should be allowed in cases of terminal illness or through a living will for things like dementia.
Only the person who lives a life can estimate it's quality and decide if it's worth living or not.
MarcusSchmalzlockus
They should at least have to take some time and discuss it with a therapist to decide if it's really what they want to do.
That's what people who want a sex change have to do. If we don't let people get a sex change operation on a whim, why should we let people commit suicide on a whim?
MarcusSchmalzlockus Finnaly someone who is more smart then 99% of the population. Suicide is a choice an intimate choice. People have done this with rational thinking once they felt that they reached a certain limit of their life. Finnaly someone who understands these things better then most of the people.
Mari Marian i understand it too.
People dont get that life can be more tortute than death is
Oh look, a video on something that I consider nearly every day.
No dont! lifes so precious! never end it! find someone to talk to, or a goal to acheive
hope youre doing better, and that you're still alive beanbon
After 20 years I think I've found it is a permanent problem so when people give me platitudes about suicide being a permanent solution to a temporary problem. It makes me want to laugh, the problem is and will never go away.
This is a very smart channel.
To live is the only chance you have to experience the world around you, to discover the complexity of both the natural world and the human condition.
Death is the ultimate violation for it annihilates every chance you could ever have to be happy, to cry, to get angry, to hug your loved ones.
Suicide is often a wish one makes because this thing called "life" just isn't for them. There are people who cannot stand the foulness of modern society or the hypocrisy people are drowning in and just give up on the world.
There are people who are scared and alone, who were rejected by others because they just couldn't blend in in other's mud made of conformism and idiotic thinking.
People don't know how to deal with their emotions, or some situations. Society always forces us to stay strong and overcome problems so we may receive its most delicious fruits, those who cannot or barely can are just left out, in the coldness of "failure".
Our society needs to change, it needs to become more compassionate as we ourselves do. We all deserve happiness, it doesn't mean we'll never experience sadness or grief, but at least we deserve that moment in which we can safely say "I am okay".
If one cannot, if someone just can't stand the weight of life, just let them go. Let them be at last the master of their own life.
Since we as humans are mostly incapable of truly understand each other, for we're always alone in our minds, let's try to be less pretentious and let others be what they want, let's start being what we want. If it won't harm anybody, where's the problem to exist? If existing harms ourselves, it means you're not a problem to be solved, but just someone who simply want to end suffering, at your own terms, and they are perfect.
agreed
As someome who has been dealing with suicidal tendencies since the age of nine, this comment is all that I want people to understand.
I completely identify with your statement. Thank you for sharing
the gay knight I'm suicidal plus when my aunt died I saw a dead body at the crash site so yea that memory comes up sometime
Kale Jay but there are so many beautiful things in the world to see, listen to... I think we all deserve another chance and just the fact of being alive is a privilege not everyone can afford, therefore we should take advantage of that! & I understand we are free or we should, but try to give yourself a chance, enjoy what you like, and just breath and be, just to try it, to try how it feels, with no thoughts attached... life’s indeed short, now you are here you will get to “the other life” one day but first, now that you have bought your ticket, came to the world, enjoy it, don’t spend more buying another one to leave earlier, that dat will come, don’t rush, enjoy the trip, the present...
Just giving my opinion here tho...
I'm just so done with everything
Hire hookers, and then kill them. It always makes me feel alive.
Just kidding. I thought I'd say something truly bizarre to distract you for a bit.
Just remember at any one time anything you say could make someone kill themselves
This is why I tend to keep to myself unless spoken to. I do not wish to harm anyone through verbal words.
Aye look a trini
"We owe each other and ourselves much more compassion than we currently tend to." UA-cam commenters I'm looking at you.
we just need better parents. start a school for parents.
yessss
So true
TheoreticallyDan fuuck yess. fuck yes.
but I guess to raise better parents is to raise better sexually active teens. Those who have good parents needs to be shown those who do not, so as to truly appreciate what has been bestowed apon them, and those with "bad" or poor quality parents at least need to see that there are different parents. yours is simply one of them or two.. there are others... everyone has to see how chance had a hand in it, and that you can't win this particular fight with chance.. don't fight too much or take it too much for granted.. cause you didn't earn it. it was by chance....
TheoreticallyDan yup
i started crying at 1:55 because i have none of those in my life and i fear i never will. i hate that i think of my two suicide attempts as failures. why was i delt such a bad hand when i was born with crippling depression and anxiety. how can i accept and be happy with myself when everyone around me is in loving relationships and see so much success in their life? ive never been in a relationship and that lack of experience only convinces myself that ill die alone by my own hands. and now i cant stop crying
Drac I'm praying that you're still here and I'm going through the same exact thing as you are but I'm not giving up on myself. I'll always strive to be better everyday and love those who don't love me. I promised myself I'll see this out until the very end and I plan on doing such. They say if you're going through hell to keep going. Keep Fighting and bettering yourself mentally, spiritually and physically and I PROMISE you that you'll see that light at the end of the tunnel you've been looking for.
Drac I luv u stay strong for me
I know how you feel you pretty much described me.
How can you tell that to a person that's never had it? Even if what you say is true. Your on the other side of the issue and don't know what it is like in that state, and if you do, I would doubt to what extent. Not to mention different people have different drives. So for some the lack of it may cause little to no problems to others it is unbearable.
Viridian the answer is you don’t tell any one who just cant relate, but instead you tell people who can relate, i wish more people who has mental illnesses would stick together in some way, idk if theres something like that already, and i also dont know how it would even help, maybe it would help with the self acceptance part, maybe status, idk, nvm
People are so hypocritical when they say suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem and when someone kills themselves those same people say that their pain is both permanent and the fault of the person who died. Society always tries to force people to live when they're obviously suffering and spin it as "the way life is"
I have thought about suicide so many times, and the reason was about how hard the life is, and how missed up the world we living in. I reach to the point to there is no purpose of life whatsoever in my point view. Now I am continue living with absolutely no purpose in life.
we
all
do
Then give it a reason.
I have one. I have a reason.
But IF that so called "reason" dissapers, i... i...
I will suicide... I don't want to that happen, but if there will be no one to support me, it will happen...
Conclusion: we NEED friends...
Seannn M you could really easily find a reason to live if you look for it, helping others, learning things, environmentalism, love, etc.
it's all pointless when you consider that the sun is going to die an all... but It's better than nothing
Thank you Jose Pablo .. and to be honest there is nothing to live for, but now am just keep going with this live cuz when you look closely live is full of pain.
I hope one day will better for all humankind :)
i feel sad reading this..
There is a mass suicide problem in Canada's First Nation reserves. The statistics per capita are jarring.
here in America it is bad as well... it's sad to see my people in such despair...
Kellen Guzman ok?
I guess a lot of people of native South American decent are still branded by the surnames of their ancestor's Spanish invaders....
(Unless she's on about the plight of the Spanish?... with their Inquisitions, and Conquistadors, and Catholicism, and their Empire....)
:( the US too
My son and my daughter keep me here. I love them very much.
The purpose of life is death. So I'll just skip right to it.
Bruh
I'd like to believe that the purpose of life is to do your best and make good use of what you're given and to help one another make this rotating sphere a better place for the next person and to help each other out in whatever way we can. I'm glad you're here. Please reach out to someone you can trust or a professional. If you need someone to listen, you can give me a message here too.
Well technically it’s to replicate your dna before you die
lol suddenly this comment became active 2 months ago, and I wasn't even notified untill now.
And yes I'm still here cause I'm picking up the courage to "go to the garage"
The Wanderer sounds like your an nhilist, nothing wrong in that. atleast there is an solution
"JUST DO IT, MAKE YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE"!
Who else is watching this and crying, knowing he/she want this for a long time now..
I've had suicidal thoughts multiple times and still do on some days. What helps me on some matters is knowing that while I may not value my life there are plenty of people who value it for me
Life is a small portion pointlessness really. Why prolong the agony.
Bravo
Exactly
There is bad in life, where one feels as if one would rather skip the upcoming days. As if one would rather be dead instead of living the upcoming future. But I feel that with time, there can be good in life, again. Times, where one would wish the days had more hours to enjoy and where one would wish to live forever like this.
I feel that one main challenge in life is to maintain faith that there will be a future with good times. Things might feel impossible right now, but my experience tells me that seemingly hopeless situations will work out and that seemingly unsolvable, agonizing problems can be resolved.
The existentialist crisis is real
@@Thaifunn1 "but my experience tells me that seemingly hopeless situations will work out and that seemingly unsolvable, agonizing problems can be resolved." And others' experience tells otherwise.
It really fucking sucks to be conspicuously rejected as an introvert by my extroverted peers at school. And to top it off, my family not giving a damn or not even lending an ear to have me explain every single rough day I go through. I hope I can become genuinely happy again... and this video was truly inspirational.
So relatable , my parents don't care and that makes me even more suicidal they just say i'm just a drama queen
people always say that suicide is a sign of weakness. but all suicide is showing is that people weren’t getting enough attention from the people who needed to help them. they didn’t notice the signs or the way they were acting. people only ‘care’ about you, when it’s your funeral...
I envy those who are dead or who have succeded in comitting suided
If suicide was painless around the world people would just be dropping like when Fly's hit the wall
@Never take the Mark of the Beast And you think using the "god loves you" bullshit is going to help anyone? Grown up, enough with this imaginary friend crap.
"Well, I'm near the end and I just ain't got the time. And I'm wasted, and I can't find my way home."
I frequently ideate about suicide. After three failed attempts I did a ridiculous amount of research and am fairly certain I have a found a method that I am comfortable with. Ironically, this makes it easier for me to keep going, since I know that I have an exit strategy if everything falls apart again.
I have also found that writing suicide notes is highly therapeutic because they allow me to be fully honest and open about things since there really is nothing left to lose at that point. Feeling like I need to explain in detail why I choose to die early reminds me of how empathetic I am to those who will be most effected by it, and ironically it tends to make me feel better enough to hold off for another day or two.
Sometimes I am feeling good and I can mentally push it out to a few years down the road, other times the best I can do is to force myself to "sleep on it".
Unfortunately I struggle a lot with mental illness and physical health issues. Out of the 7 things they listed in this video of people being in need of, I have deficiencies in 5 of those areas. Still, I am doing way better than I was 3 years ago so I am feeling a lot more hopeful than it probably sounds from my post here.
This may sound strange but I find that having an obsession keeps me going: my primary obsession is biochemistry so I always think "What's next?" I always make sure I am watching at least two television serials so I have something to look forward to each week and I am constantly reading so I have an interesting story to follow. It may not be for everyone but I find it keeps me going.
Currently I am hooked on Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels and the work of John Le Carré. Watching The Night Manager unfold from the pages each week constantly reminds me that if I keep going there will be more. The wait for The Winds of Winter has kept me going for about a year.
I know that putting such investment into a fictional world can seem sad. However, fiction can offer an escape from the trials of daily life. People pour their souls into stories which enrich the lives of others and I am so grateful for that.
Thank you to everyone who made these stories: you have saved my life many times.
consciousness suppression
+Ralph Livingston It gives me something positive to think about. I still get morbid thoughts but I use this kind of thought to keep me going:
"The Nobel Prizes are announced soon - don't you want to see who wins?"
"I want to see what happens in Game of Thrones next."
Then, just before my obsession comes to an end I find something else to be hooked on.
+Charlie Hancock Yes, it is consciousness suppression. You forget about the self and the ego and distract yourself with other things.
+Ralph Livingston Yes, my psychotherapist suggested it.
+Charlie Hancock I'm genuinely glad that it is working for you.
Depression is a big one, My uncle had went through it and had taken his life.
LIFE'S IMPRISON OUR SOUL IN THIS PURGATORY WORLD.
I watched this and I cried. I consider myself a very strong and positive person, always looking for the bright side. I don't get angry easily. When I'm sad, I recover from it the next day. But there are times when I have suicide thoughts, like if I die, I don't have to deal with all these anymore. Comparing to others who are worse off than me only makes me ashamed and guilty of feeling that way. I don't want to kill myself, I know I'm a good person and love myself, it's just that sometimes life is too hard. That's why I turn into something that takes the burden away. I love writing and it saves me every day. I'm able to look forward to a new day, excited to fill a new blank page with words. I guess I'm lucky I've found what I love doing, it's become my purpose to live. Thank you for this video.
I know where I want to go in life, but can’t see the way how to get there. And that kills me.
the narrator was very good in this and I felt compassion coming from his words.
I feel depressed and angry all the time so I just shut my self in my room and sleep all day 😞😞
I am so incredibly thankful for this channel, words do not do it justice at how much I appreciate it.
this channel has absolutely changed how I look at life and the people around me.
6 yrs later and still one of the best videos on suicide. I've moved on to palliative care and finishing my affairs and this is the only vid on the topic that makes sense
Exactly two years ago I decided to leave this life.
I stood on the rooftop of my house looking down on the streets for good two hours.
It was actually one simple phone call that saved me.
I called the suicide hotline and this guys didn’t say that much - he listened to me most of the time.
After that phonecall I stood there for two minutes, turned around and took the stairs back down.
Today I’m glad that I didn’t do it.
I got some things to do in this world...
It’s not my time to go yet, not yet....
The only thing I want is just a little love...
Some people don't want to commit suicide, they just want to be alive in a sleep like state and not have to deal with the world or anything else for a while.
Finally...I found a suicide tutorial on UA-cam.My life is complete.
Literally, your life is complete.
I should not have smiled at that… but I did.
me too
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Antimanele104 wut the wut
The opening is really good, those facts are incredible and really explains our collective denial that perhaps there's a problem with the competitive and violent ways we live.
Why we condemn suicide? i mean, the only way to achieve true happiness is when you are dead. No more thoughts and feelings, struggle and sufferings, all of those vanish. And all that left is a peacefulness so serene you dont even know you are not existing anymore. Life become non-life again just like the way it is before it was born to this world.
A life that is not chosen.
If you are dead, you don't feel nothing actually
Tan Kean Yuan you sound like a philosopher
Tan Kean Yuan ive heard some deep stuffs, but thats some pretty gud deep stuffs right there
No. You are not left with peacefulness. You are left with nothing. Suicide is a permanent response to temporary grief and suffering. There is always calm after the storm
cakebox Well, your life is temporary, this doesn't mean, that suffering for years and even decades is prefarble option
I hate when people say people who kill themselves are cowards.. Not only is it not true but it's demeaning to suicidal and suicide victims.
+Hamsaphina the reason is they cant handle a short [relative] term problem, killing your self is a perment answer to a short term problem, if you keep at it you will find at least a little happiness
Unless it's a long term problem
Hamsaphina but still, the problem can be fixed [and I said relative!], but death can not, once your dead your dead!
So, if someone kills themself to save a life, is that still cowardice for that "short ter" problem?
Crono well that's a whole different ideal all together
So sad, yet so true. I often find myself wondering if it were better if I were ... nonexistent. I think this by the fact that it would make so many people happy, whether it be future people or past. But I still pull myself back, remembering how many people would be in grief over my loss, and remember that there's still good things in the world, and that if I keep going I'll one day find it.
I have firmly decided to end my life on my own terms and will do it with dignity. I have failed in pretty much all aspects in my life, but, I am going to wait till my parents pass away. I will take care of them when they need me and once they go, I will go too. I cannot live alone, I know I will be miserable. With no husband and children to my name, I find no one to look forward to. Sounds very needy and clingy, but I cannot be miserable without a family to look after. I am not ashamed of this decision that I have made. It actually helps me feel better that I will not be miserable and alone. It's the harshest and hardest decision I have ever made in my life.
What about adoption? There are thousands of children on orphanages desperate to finally have a loving mother.
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Finally a well thought out lesson as to how important we are to each other. We are more important to one another then anything else in the universe.
I find it quite ironic that the comments on this video are so nasty after Alain just explained that we need to be more compassionate to one another. Suicide should never be an option, but we can't judge someone elses decision when we never knew the pain they were enduring. Collectively as a society we can help by treating each other better. If you see someone looking lost or alone say hi to them and ask them how are you? A small gesture can make a world of difference for someone struggling and the very fact that you acknowledged them as a human being can put a positive spin on their day. I hope this comment can reach people and even make just a small difference. Take care people 😊✌
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True, I read about a golden gate bridge jumper who just wanted someone to smile at him. They didn't and he jumped...Thank God he lived! He said he regretted his decision as soon as he was over the edge!
If suicide weren't an option, I would be in so much pain right now. Thinking about suicide gives me relief when I see things out of my control that will cause great pain and grief..
With the interlocutor missing the point that aforesaid compassion would involve allowing the odd case of suicide for somebody physically healthy.....
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That man in the thumbnail was contemplating suicide over a Gameboy Micro
haha
+Ambidextroid ah I caught that too
+Ambidextroid Gameboy is serious business
What's a game boy micro
+Sotiris Krol a micro gameboy
Suicide is such a serious matter that some people don’t take seriously 😒
I needed this video so much. I've been thinking about it a lot lately because of mental health/being extremely behind in school/not having any talents/ not having any friends/ and just in general not seeing any meaning or true joy in my life anymore. I feel suffocated because if I talk about this to anyone they just immediately just would say to get help, when communication with people we're close to rather than just therapists and whatnot is so important, because there is that connection that we don't have with strangers. I never used to feel this way, and I'm sure so many never would if it weren't for the fact that society bases value upon things like intelligence, money and status, rather than kindness, understanding of others or love. I feel as though I don't belong in a kind of world like this, and I know so many others do for all these reasons. I realize that everyone is so completely alone, since birth all the way to death, in their thoughts, beliefs and dreams. To be a person is to be alone, as much as it hurts. Beyond all this though, I have to believe we will eventually find something to live for each day. Keep holding on, we're all in this together.
As someone who suffers from depression and who's attempted suicide I can attest to the value of those seven qualities you mentioned and their ability to save lives.
I sincerely wish to be there for those contemplating on ending their lives. 2 of my cousins did so and for one of them it was because of girlfriend who left him. It was devastating for my whole family when we heard about it, he was only 19. At that age he didn't realize there is so much more in life than just relationships..Thanks School of Life for making so meaningful content.
I am done with life...
Every new day is a nightmare.
I love the compassion given in school of life... its very reaching and this one makes me weep.... humanity at it's best... feel sad for those so desperate to do such a thing though I know I have felt so super low at times in my life but fond it is so good to listen to Alain De Botton and crew on many aspects. I enjoy the concepts and certainly gets me reflecting a lot in a good way. Thank you
Ive always found that my suicidal thoughts come back every few years before sub siding, never understood why
SCARSSURVIVED i think its normal to have different phases in which you think differently about your life and whether one should keep living it. i too, sometimes think about how unsignificant and absurd my or anyone elses life is but theres so much worth living for, so much to gain if youve got the right mindset, so much to experience and so much change to be made in the world and i wouldnt swap it for being dead longer
dumb gal for a dumb gal you sure are smart!
Thanks
dumb gal You know what ....your comment was actually heartwarming, nice to feel there are people what keep on going despite all the pointlessness in life .
Maybe getting a goal set our mindset differently, so we not seen each others as just atoms?
Great vid. It's sometimes good to rationalise things. As much as you can rationalise suicide. I stood and just watched my world crumble into nothing this year. I've had depression for a while to varying degrees of severity but this year opened up a pandora's box of all my life's failures and regrets that on the one hand took me to the darkest place i've been, but also taught me more about life than I've ever learnt.
During the very worst of times I stayed in bed for days and weeks on end with the curtains shut. No concept of time anymore. Then at that very moment I hit rock bottom I had some sort of realisation. I don't know why but I suddenly realised that in that moment I owed nobody anything anymore. The world had rejected my love and so in an instant I shook off all those things, material and non-material that I had built every aspect of my life around.
All the misplaced expectation and faith in things and people that in the end, were nowhere to be found when I needed them...I realised that the process of losing all this meant that really, it was a process of becoming free of the emotional bonds that chained me to false hope, fake security, contrived love.......it left me truly free to begin healing myself again, from the very ground up. Building myself from scratch again without the interference of 28 years of life. More importantly, it allowed me to let those that truly loved me, back in....it allowed me to rebuild those relationships to something even stronger, because I have finally allowed my entire being, to give all my love and dedication to the few things and people that were real.
So now, I see those days not as a negative thing, but as process that allowed a death and rebirth of sorts. A process that afforded me the ability to emerge almost like a newborn baby. I'm still recovering, but every day I get a little better. There are setbacks, but I follow my routine and I remember that the things and people I need to survive will always be there with me, unconditionally.
Now I don't know what the point of my post even really is...but I guess what I want to say is that everybody needs to reduce the noise. By that I mean the things in life that just dilute your love and energy, and good feelings. The things that don't deserve your time and energy but you think they do. I can promise you that if you can see a way out of those bindings, then there's hope.
Know that others have shared a great pain and have made it out of the other side. Peace.
Probably one of the best video about suicide that I have ever watched. Many thanks.
Actually , this video doesn't help.
not one bit