Thanks for another great informational video. I just have to say, as an avid UA-cam mtb info consumer, you are one of the best presenters. You articulate extremely well and provide all the necessary nuance and detail without unnecessary filler talk. 👍
Attention FL riders the difference is Amazing. I live in FL and just replaced my Stump Jumper tires to Maxxis tubeless XC racing tires. Last weekend I was able ride more miles without any issues. That’s a 30% increase. Guys I now really really enjoy my bike. I love speed in the trails. Please note that now my suspension also needs to be adjusted. Great video Gracias
got a schwalbe magic mary tan wall and a big betty tan wall for my patrol and honestly, they're the best tires ive ever used. the magic mary's grip and HUGE shoulder knobs are unbelievably grippy when ripping around flat corners but i got them in a slightly harder compound so they dont kill me when climbing. the bike weighs almost 37 pounds so obviously im not a huge climber but that doesn't matter because i have fun on the downhills. its surprising how much of a difference good tires make
I run Assegai 29 2.5 in EXO+ Casing Front and Rear. (MaxxGrip compound for the front and MaxxTerra for the rear). I found this combination to pleasantly deliver great performance. I actually enjoy the way you put words together to build sentences.
Very thorough explanation! Love Assegai front Dissector rear combo. Tried DD casings for the first time when I got my eMTB, they're great, very supportive no need for inserts, of course weight is no issue on an eeb
Why do I love needing out on MTB so much LOL this video was made over a year ago, and I could probably spend over a year covering every type of MTB tire (casing, compound, patterns, brand jargon etc.) and still have NOT finish. Love it 🤘🏻
During lockdown in the UK when I've been restricted to local riding (mainly roads and light gravel), I decided to try a pair of Maxxis Ardent Race 2.2" wide and wow they are brilliant. Fast rolling and also enough grip for my riding.
I probably won't go back to Maxxis after trying Michelin WIld Enduro, huge difference from first try, much stiffer side knobs, much better cornering, so they don't have the vague feel, especially at extreme turning angles you notice it, much bigger side knobs and spacing like a mud tyre, good pattern, the side knobs have more support, they don't bend as much as Maxxis does. but it's not too stiff or hard, good dampened rebound and super sticky front, but less sticky rear tyre, lovely combo. very different tyre from what Maxxis offers, as it's a mix of a fast rolling decently spaced but not too close knobs, and side knobs of a mud tyre. They roll a bit better than the Maxxis tyres I tried before too. the tyres I've tried from Maxxis are Highroller2, Shorty( tried both on 29er with cush core) , Minion DHR2(only tried on 26er) both on 23mm rim. I still use 23mm rim. the Michelin were 2.40 and Maxxis were 2.30 Worst tyre handling tyre that still was pretty durable was Bontrager SE4 Team issue, it fish tailed too easily, lost grip in fast turns on dirt, it had quick turning, too, so i crashed on a trial rode many times with HighRoller2. so Maxxis HIghRoller too maintained traction and you could easily stay on line. but Michelin Wild Enduro is even better all rounder. So I might keep this setup for spring, summer, autumn, instead of swapping between high roller2 for spring and autumn and highroller in summer. the good cornering might be a combination of the sticky compound and the supportive side knobs and mid thread pattern. I've not tried Maxxis MaxxGrip. The WIld Enduro work well under braking too. but it has made track stands a lot easier. But I see the Assegai seem to be a better choice than High Roller 2, Minion DHR2.
@@TheLoamWolf but if I would have to select a tyre to try from Maxxis it would be Assegai. As I suspect it might turn better than the other Maxxis tyres I've tried. I know Tha t any love that tyre. By looking at the thread pattern I understand why. But tyres can be harder to get now, at least in certain sizes and models, so ppl should get what they can.
Great video bud. I made the mistake of running a rekon exo+ 120tpi 27.5x 2.6 on the rear and it only lasted 2 months. Had two punctures on the side walls👎. Gonna try the 60tpi rekon
My l.b.s. never told me about maxx speed, guess they know me. I always run dd in rear and exo up front. Next set will be dhr2 2.4 dd maxx terra rear, dhf exo plus 2.5 maxx grip or assagai on levo and dhf on non ebike.
I got the 2.6 DHF/ 2.4 DHR 2 and I think I ended up getting the beefier compound. Ever since I switched the climbing has just sucked. I love them on the way down though! Thanks for the video I'm definitely going to reference this next time I'm in the market!
Awesome thanks so much! And you’re very in tune with your ride and it’s awesome to be able to feel small differences in parts and how they change your ride.
Very helpful video, but one question about sidewalls: the exo has the exo layer, the exo+ has exo and silkshield, does double down have exo and silkshield in addition to butyl, or just butyl?
main weakness of thee Maxxis EXO tyres is the bead, after 4-6 months they can fail, I can wear them out to the nylon, also the tyres warp. but other than that they are pretty decent tyres. But I think this should be improved. but sidewall protection was good enough for where i live, I don't have much sharp rocks. but I will see how the Michelin WIld ENduro does. but so far only two rides on them.
For me I am a pedaler . I ride many 20 mile rides with 2000 ft of elevation climbed . I live in the high desert with rock and loose but i have some hard pack decomposed granite . You would think a faster xc tire would be preferable for distance riding but my local trails ate these for dinner also was a lack of grip climbing and cornering . So i made a big change and went to Maxxis DHr2, 2.3 ,29er exo dual ply . This is basically more of a pointing down type tire but for me I have not had a problem pedaling and keeping the speed also as the rear tire center knobs wear it gets faster but of course you lose some grip but still far better than those xc tires . Now I just got a DHF 3c max terra 2.3 and I am going to put that on the front and will take off my front dhr2 which still has decent knobs and that will go on the back . My rear dhr2 began weeping a bit out the side walls and the DHF was a warranty tire replacement. The 2.3 keeps the weight down and a good size for my 23mm rims . I think the high roller 2.3 was specifically designed for a 23 or 25 mm rim so I considered it the same for the minions .
Try the minion ss DD for rear, great in the dry, rolls crazy fast and has the same cornering performance than a dhf/dhr Its 2.3, so perfect for a sub 25mm rim, works with 30mm too, just gets a bit square then but still works great.
@@michael_the_chef Thanks for the suggestion . Its all about grip for me . Thats the priority and if i can get better rolling resistance outcomes that would be a bonus. I experimented with other tire manufacturers and they just could not hold up to my high desert trails and I will stick with Maxxis unless somebody comes up with a better mousetrap or Maxxis degrades its quality .
@@stevencole7331 if you need mostly grip: assegai, highroller 2, dhr2, and dissector (from most grip and highest rolling resistance to a little less rolling resistance but still good grip. I would go for a maxx terra or dual compound in double down casing to have a bit lower rolling resistance as your rear tyre. I love the high roller 2, even works in the wet, but its almost as draggy as a assegai and it wears a bit faster because of side nob tearing.
@@stevencole7331 if you need mostly grip: assegai, highroller 2, dhr2, and dissector (from most grip and highest rolling resistance to a little less rolling resistance but still good grip. I would go for a maxx terra or dual compound in double down casing as your rear tyre to have a bit lower rolling resistance. I love the high roller 2, even works in the wet, but its almost as draggy as a assegai and it wears a bit faster because of side nob tearing.
Our suggestion is, to think of energy transfer. Energy always finds the next weakest link! If that’s the tire, you flat, if it’s the wheel it’ll crack/dent. If those are both burly, then it’s your frame, suspension and body. Energy doesn’t disappear, so think where you want it to be absorbed based on your terrain, riding level and desired experience. Hope that helps
Go to the dumpster behind the bike shop or ask for used tires at the shop, people throw away tires with tons of life on them. I get a bunch of good tires like this.
@@abelramos8652 rekon exo plus? Minion ss? Dissector exo plus ? If you need speed, go for maxx terra front and dual compound rear. For dry fast trails i would run a dissector front and a minion ss rear. You could try a more narrow dhf dhr2 or highroller (2.3), nobs are smaller there
So my local trails have rocky, rooty, hardpack, sand, and some small creek crossings in various sections, and some of it is all together. Is there a back tire best suited for all of these, or am I SOL?
Yeah. Run an assguy on the front with a high roller rear. Pretty much the best all round set up you can get. If you want better rolling speed but still decent grip try the magic Mary.
If you are in the market for some fresh rubber, whether it’s from Maxxis or another brand, be sure to visit our online retail partner to check out their wide selection of tires here: bit.ly/2PPQHXD
Great video,...yes ok, the guy's voice is kind of "whinny" and he doesn't adjust his speed to an educational pace, just goes for a demo/sales pace. But still, if you play it at .75 speed (just click the gear that pops at the bottom of the screen once your mouse hoovers the picture) you can watch it and learn a lot that you can apply to other brands. Over all good job!
Thanks for another great informational video. I just have to say, as an avid UA-cam mtb info consumer, you are one of the best presenters. You articulate extremely well and provide all the necessary nuance and detail without unnecessary filler talk. 👍
Thank you very much for the kind words. We appreciate it greatly.
Attention FL riders the difference is Amazing. I live in FL and just replaced my Stump Jumper tires to Maxxis tubeless XC racing tires. Last weekend I was able ride more miles without any issues. That’s a 30% increase. Guys I now really really enjoy my bike. I love speed in the trails. Please note that now my suspension also needs to be adjusted. Great video Gracias
got a schwalbe magic mary tan wall and a big betty tan wall for my patrol and honestly, they're the best tires ive ever used. the magic mary's grip and HUGE shoulder knobs are unbelievably grippy when ripping around flat corners but i got them in a slightly harder compound so they dont kill me when climbing. the bike weighs almost 37 pounds so obviously im not a huge climber but that doesn't matter because i have fun on the downhills. its surprising how much of a difference good tires make
I run Assegai 29 2.5 in EXO+ Casing Front and Rear. (MaxxGrip compound for the front and MaxxTerra for the rear). I found this combination to pleasantly deliver great performance.
I actually enjoy the way you put words together to build sentences.
Well thank you very much. They just come out that way.
Very thorough explanation! Love Assegai front Dissector rear combo. Tried DD casings for the first time when I got my eMTB, they're great, very supportive no need for inserts, of course weight is no issue on an eeb
Nice! Stoked to hear that you found a solid new combo and are enjoying the DD casing. We like it as well.
Why do I love needing out on MTB so much LOL this video was made over a year ago, and I could probably spend over a year covering every type of MTB tire (casing, compound, patterns, brand jargon etc.) and still have NOT finish. Love it 🤘🏻
Great to hear!
During lockdown in the UK when I've been restricted to local riding (mainly roads and light gravel), I decided to try a pair of Maxxis Ardent Race 2.2" wide and wow they are brilliant. Fast rolling and also enough grip for my riding.
Awesome thanks for the feedback Ian
Maxxis Assegai front to back 🤟
I probably won't go back to Maxxis after trying Michelin WIld Enduro, huge difference from first try, much stiffer side knobs, much better cornering, so they don't have the vague feel, especially at extreme turning angles you notice it, much bigger side knobs and spacing like a mud tyre, good pattern, the side knobs have more support, they don't bend as much as Maxxis does. but it's not too stiff or hard, good dampened rebound and super sticky front, but less sticky rear tyre, lovely combo.
very different tyre from what Maxxis offers, as it's a mix of a fast rolling decently spaced but not too close knobs, and side knobs of a mud tyre.
They roll a bit better than the Maxxis tyres I tried before too.
the tyres I've tried from Maxxis are Highroller2, Shorty( tried both on 29er with cush core) , Minion DHR2(only tried on 26er) both on 23mm rim.
I still use 23mm rim. the Michelin were 2.40 and Maxxis were 2.30
Worst tyre handling tyre that still was pretty durable was Bontrager SE4 Team issue, it fish tailed too easily, lost grip in fast turns on dirt, it had quick turning, too, so i crashed on a trial rode many times with HighRoller2. so Maxxis HIghRoller too maintained traction and you could easily stay on line.
but Michelin Wild Enduro is even better all rounder. So I might keep this setup for spring, summer, autumn, instead of swapping between high roller2 for spring and autumn and highroller in summer.
the good cornering might be a combination of the sticky compound and the supportive side knobs and mid thread pattern.
I've not tried Maxxis MaxxGrip.
The WIld Enduro work well under braking too. but it has made track stands a lot easier.
But I see the Assegai seem to be a better choice than High Roller 2, Minion DHR2.
Thanks for sharing Johannes.
@@TheLoamWolf but if I would have to select a tyre to try from Maxxis it would be Assegai. As I suspect it might turn better than the other Maxxis tyres I've tried. I know Tha t any love that tyre. By looking at the thread pattern I understand why. But tyres can be harder to get now, at least in certain sizes and models, so ppl should get what they can.
Great video bud. I made the mistake of running a rekon exo+ 120tpi 27.5x 2.6 on the rear and it only lasted 2 months. Had two punctures on the side walls👎. Gonna try the 60tpi rekon
Was that subscribe line a garand thumb reference? 😂
mmmmmaybe! haha.
My l.b.s. never told me about maxx speed, guess they know me. I always run dd in rear and exo up front. Next set will be dhr2 2.4 dd maxx terra rear, dhf exo plus 2.5 maxx grip or assagai on levo and dhf on non ebike.
I want 27.5 assegai 3C, DD, Maxterra in front 2.6 or 2.8 for my Fox 36 fork. With a DHR 3C, DH, Maxgrip in 2.6 out back on my Yeti SB5.
Awesome video and great detailed explanations. The best MTB tire video on YT. Keep up the good work guys!
Thank you so much!
I got the 2.6 DHF/ 2.4 DHR 2 and I think I ended up getting the beefier compound. Ever since I switched the climbing has just sucked. I love them on the way down though! Thanks for the video I'm definitely going to reference this next time I'm in the market!
Awesome thanks so much! And you’re very in tune with your ride and it’s awesome to be able to feel small differences in parts and how they change your ride.
Drew is the PhD of Latex...🤔
Thanks for putting it out there. 🍌
Rubber Doctor
Ribbed for better trail feel
@@TheLoamWolf Just be grateful I didn't write "Drew is Lord of Latex". A title like that could stick!
My hats off to you for that valuable information, Thank you so much for your posting..👍
Glad it was helpful!
important: slower rolling on front doesnt matter as much as slower rolling on the rear.
GREAT video guys!!! Thanks.
Thanks for watching.
Amazingly useful, thank you!
New drinking game. Take a drink everytime the word "knob" is used.
Great video man !
Thank you
Vittoria Mazza! Had Dhf front and rear last season but did not get on with them in moist to wet conditions. The Mazzas corner better too.
DHF is a dry / firm condition tyre and probably the best tyre in those conditions but it’s shit in soft conditions.
Very helpful video, but one question about sidewalls: the exo has the exo layer, the exo+ has exo and silkshield, does double down have exo and silkshield in addition to butyl, or just butyl?
DHF stand for DownHill Front &
DHR is for rear..
Downhill race and downhill free ride
main weakness of thee Maxxis EXO tyres is the bead, after 4-6 months they can fail, I can wear them out to the nylon, also the tyres warp.
but other than that they are pretty decent tyres. But I think this should be improved. but sidewall protection was good enough for where i live, I don't have much sharp rocks.
but I will see how the Michelin WIld ENduro does. but so far only two rides on them.
For me I am a pedaler . I ride many 20 mile rides with 2000 ft of elevation climbed . I live in the high desert with rock and loose but i have some hard pack decomposed granite . You would think a faster xc tire would be preferable for distance riding but my local trails ate these for dinner also was a lack of grip climbing and cornering . So i made a big change and went to Maxxis DHr2, 2.3 ,29er exo dual ply . This is basically more of a pointing down type tire but for me I have not had a problem pedaling and keeping the speed also as the rear tire center knobs wear it gets faster but of course you lose some grip but still far better than those xc tires . Now I just got a DHF 3c max terra 2.3 and I am going to put that on the front and will take off my front dhr2 which still has decent knobs and that will go on the back . My rear dhr2 began weeping a bit out the side walls and the DHF was a warranty tire replacement. The 2.3 keeps the weight down and a good size for my 23mm rims . I think the high roller 2.3 was specifically designed for a 23 or 25 mm rim so I considered it the same for the minions .
Great feedback Steven. Thanks so much for sharing.
Try the minion ss DD for rear, great in the dry, rolls crazy fast and has the same cornering performance than a dhf/dhr
Its 2.3, so perfect for a sub 25mm rim, works with 30mm too, just gets a bit square then but still works great.
@@michael_the_chef Thanks for the suggestion . Its all about grip for me . Thats the priority and if i can get better rolling resistance outcomes that would be a bonus. I experimented with other tire manufacturers and they just could not hold up to my high desert trails and I will stick with Maxxis unless somebody comes up with a better mousetrap or Maxxis degrades its quality .
@@stevencole7331 if you need mostly grip: assegai, highroller 2, dhr2, and dissector (from most grip and highest rolling resistance to a little less rolling resistance but still good grip.
I would go for a maxx terra or dual compound in double down casing to have a bit lower rolling resistance as your rear tyre.
I love the high roller 2, even works in the wet, but its almost as draggy as a assegai and it wears a bit faster because of side nob tearing.
@@stevencole7331 if you need mostly grip: assegai, highroller 2, dhr2, and dissector (from most grip and highest rolling resistance to a little less rolling resistance but still good grip.
I would go for a maxx terra or dual compound in double down casing as your rear tyre to have a bit lower rolling resistance.
I love the high roller 2, even works in the wet, but its almost as draggy as a assegai and it wears a bit faster because of side nob tearing.
A layer of butyl in my tire, sounds like inserting a tube in a tubeless tire, if that makes sense... Resistance is butyl
Awesome as always, my head hurts though.
Haha. You're welcome
My head hurts too. Kind of feel like there are several choices that are not 'wrong' choices. For me don't go too light or crazy heavy.
What would you choose, Assegai or Eddy current?
When the factory sipes wear away, you'll find me with a razor blade, vise grips, and a propane torch. Like watching a SAW movie.
Mmmm, burnt rubber.
Any thoughts on tire choice for stiff carbon wheels vs an alloy wheel?
Our suggestion is, to think of energy transfer. Energy always finds the next weakest link! If that’s the tire, you flat, if it’s the wheel it’ll crack/dent. If those are both burly, then it’s your frame, suspension and body. Energy doesn’t disappear, so think where you want it to be absorbed based on your terrain, riding level and desired experience. Hope that helps
Go to the dumpster behind the bike shop or ask for used tires at the shop, people throw away tires with tons of life on them. I get a bunch of good tires like this.
Good idea! And yes, tires do get tossed with some life still on them!
Is maxxterra just in the middle??
yes
Loam Wolf dont you think theres a lack of proper dry enduro tires? We need those tall knobs for going fast but no slippery trails?
Dhf? 🤣
Minion ss? Aggressor? Dissector?
@@michael_the_chef something for the front?
@@abelramos8652 rekon exo plus? Minion ss? Dissector exo plus ? If you need speed, go for maxx terra front and dual compound rear. For dry fast trails i would run a dissector front and a minion ss rear.
You could try a more narrow dhf dhr2 or highroller (2.3), nobs are smaller there
@@michael_the_chef usually they come R and F spec but i miss more tires like the onza ibex or the rck2
Step 1: Do they have tan walls?
Step 2: If yes, shred.
Right?
I mean... can’t go wrong with that
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
So my local trails have rocky, rooty, hardpack, sand, and some small creek crossings in various sections, and some of it is all together. Is there a back tire best suited for all of these, or am I SOL?
Those are similar to my conditions. I ride with assegai 2.5” exo+ front, aggressor 2.5” DD rear
Yeah. Run an assguy on the front with a high roller rear. Pretty much the best all round set up you can get. If you want better rolling speed but still decent grip try the magic Mary.
If you are in the market for some fresh rubber, whether it’s from Maxxis or another brand, be sure to visit our online retail partner to check out their wide selection of tires here: bit.ly/2PPQHXD
Great video,...yes ok, the guy's voice is kind of "whinny" and he doesn't adjust his speed to an educational pace, just goes for a demo/sales pace. But still, if you play it at .75 speed (just click the gear that pops at the bottom of the screen once your mouse hoovers the picture) you can watch it and learn a lot that you can apply to other brands. Over all good job!
Still confused 😕
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I am first' here drew sir
Yes you are!
Dhf recut
Rock razor recut😂
Lol Maxxis 😂 the shittiest tires I ever rode.
We’d love to know what tread pattern and compound you were riding? Thanks!