And yet Dragon Age Keep does not permit that possibility. In fact, they don't even permit the possibility of Aveline leaving you at all if Fenris was never recruited.
Yes, it does. When you go into the Dragon Age Keep, you can have it say that Fenris died in the final battle and that Aveline did not stay with Hawke. I don't know how much of the Keep decisions actually translate properly into Inquisition cause certain things are set in stone. I had an Aggressive Blood Mage Fem Hawke but when I plugged her into the Keep, she was vehemently against Blood Magic in Inquisition, and I was like "Girl, hypocrite much?" xD
If you are playing as a Mage and made Carver a Grey Warden, he'll join you in the final battle, so you can also have him as your Tank if both Aveline and Fenris leave you. He gets a lot of ability points and stat points you can spend on him at that point in the game, so you can build him into a proper Tank.
Hi Lol, i commented super long ago. Thanks, I usually have Beth alive and Carver dead-partly that he's a brat- that time i was new to this and really like Fenris but got him angry. So i was upset LOL LOL i know how to manage them now. I don't really like C's persona
Fenris pro I like Bethany more than Carver as well, but I like Hawke as a Mage for story purposes, so I usually end up being stuck with him. Although, his attitude is a lot better if you make him a Grey Warden instead of a Templar, so I usually go that route.
Anthony Murano I see so u are playing now? ive played dozens this time im a bloodmage lol. Fenris rom. I like this better than inqui, its easy to win in short spans/ when im stress
No, because if you have a high friendship with Aveline, she will stand by you right away if you choose the Mages. You need the Aveline rivalry and support the Mages in order for her to turn on you, but she will not rejoin you. Fenris will leave you if you support the Mages; however, if your friendship is high, he will come back to you.
I believe you can also have a maxed Rivalry with Fenris to get him to stay with you. In the 1.05 Patch, you can actually get Anders to realize he's a monster with maxed Rivalry and get him to join you if you side with the Templars.
Okay, so even with a maxed Rivalry, Aveline can still side with Hawke. To get Aveline to turn on you, you need to make it so that she ends up resigning from the Guard in Act III and basically ignore her personal quests and be a complete jerk to her.
It depends how you treat her throughout the game. If you don't score enough Friendship or Rivalry points, and you ignore her personal request, don't have her marry Donnec, and get her to resign the Guard, she'll most likely turn on you during Final Straw (provided you sided with the Mages). Siding with the Templars is automatic Aveline support, no matter how good of a relationship you have.
![Dragon Age 2: Party Banter: Fenris & Isabela [complete]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/gmzUGqMh-iY/mqdefault.jpg)
The moment when you realize Sebastian is literally just inserted into this scene. No one, besides Hawke, even acknowledges his existence xD
@Ethan Schultz I know thats why its kinda funny, take him out and it literally changes nothing xD
Ugghhh,... too painful.
And yet Dragon Age Keep does not permit that possibility. In fact, they don't even permit the possibility of Aveline leaving you at all if Fenris was never recruited.
Yes, it does. When you go into the Dragon Age Keep, you can have it say that Fenris died in the final battle and that Aveline did not stay with Hawke. I don't know how much of the Keep decisions actually translate properly into Inquisition cause certain things are set in stone. I had an Aggressive Blood Mage Fem Hawke but when I plugged her into the Keep, she was vehemently against Blood Magic in Inquisition, and I was like "Girl, hypocrite much?" xD
My previous comment: tough to win without ave and fen tanking.
If you are playing as a Mage and made Carver a Grey Warden, he'll join you in the final battle, so you can also have him as your Tank if both Aveline and Fenris leave you. He gets a lot of ability points and stat points you can spend on him at that point in the game, so you can build him into a proper Tank.
Hi Lol, i commented super long ago. Thanks, I usually have Beth alive and Carver dead-partly that he's a brat- that time i was new to this and really like Fenris but got him angry. So i was upset LOL LOL i know how to manage them now. I don't really like C's persona
Fenris pro I like Bethany more than Carver as well, but I like Hawke as a Mage for story purposes, so I usually end up being stuck with him. Although, his attitude is a lot better if you make him a Grey Warden instead of a Templar, so I usually go that route.
Anthony Murano I see so u are playing now? ive played dozens this time im a bloodmage lol. Fenris rom. I like this better than inqui, its easy to win in short spans/ when im stress
some ppl do comment that fenris wouldn bother to side with templars as his problems had been solved
Why aren't Sebastian or Anders at the Gallows? And where is Carver?
Is it possible to lose *and* regain both of them? It'd be amusing to see them both abandon Meredith in a row.
No, because if you have a high friendship with Aveline, she will stand by you right away if you choose the Mages. You need the Aveline rivalry and support the Mages in order for her to turn on you, but she will not rejoin you. Fenris will leave you if you support the Mages; however, if your friendship is high, he will come back to you.
Or infinity friendship, Fenris will refuse to leave Hawke.
Claire Dé Lune Yes, maxed Friendship with Fenris is a guaranteed siding with you.
I believe you can also have a maxed Rivalry with Fenris to get him to stay with you. In the 1.05 Patch, you can actually get Anders to realize he's a monster with maxed Rivalry and get him to join you if you side with the Templars.
Okay, so even with a maxed Rivalry, Aveline can still side with Hawke. To get Aveline to turn on you, you need to make it so that she ends up resigning from the Guard in Act III and basically ignore her personal quests and be a complete jerk to her.
Why would aveline not stand by hawke?
It depends how you treat her throughout the game. If you don't score enough Friendship or Rivalry points, and you ignore her personal request, don't have her marry Donnec, and get her to resign the Guard, she'll most likely turn on you during Final Straw (provided you sided with the Mages). Siding with the Templars is automatic Aveline support, no matter how good of a relationship you have.